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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
He lied about it but if he hadn't lied about breaking the rules the public would have let him off? Even if he broke the rules?
I don't think so.
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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
He lied about it but if he hadn't lied about breaking the rules the public would have let him off? Even if he broke the rules?
I don't think so.
All fair points, I just removed some of it to save repeating your whole post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
I think it’s been a wasted opportunity. He had such a large majority with the country overwhelmingly behind him to get things done.
He just totally screwed it up though. I don’t buy into the whole ‘he doesn’t care about anyone’ line.
I’ll happily accept that every single MP in Westminster wants what’s best for the e country. They just have different views on how to get there.
All the Eaton toff bogeyman stuff is just toys out the pram.
He didn't just break the rules. He wrote the rules for everyone else but considered (and in fact, by all accounts still considers) himself a special case who should be exempt from them.Quote:
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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
I can't even begin to think how to respond to this, other than to say I'm flabbergasted.
He got in on 43% of the votes, and just 25% of the votes in Scotland. Hardly "overwhelmingly behind him".Quote:
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@BNONews
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BREAKING: 3 more members of Boris Johnson’s government have resigned, taking number of resignations to 21
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Well-placed source convinced Boris Johnson won’t quit, even if the 22 change the rules, and he loses a VONC.
Instead, he’ll claim he has a mandate from 14m voters, and will threaten to force an election - but not before deselecting everyone who voted against him
Johnson famously wrote two articles before the Brexit vote, supporting diametrically opposite views. He chose the one that gave him the best chance of personal progression. So how does this demonstrate wanting "what's best for the country"?Quote:
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He's caused chaos with everythingQuote:
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This is fun.Quote:
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Originally Posted by grunt
They had an 80+ seat majority in the commons. That’s a convincing win.
I have to say that I thought that Starmer got it absolutely spot on, bang on the button at PMQs. Brilliant from him.
Two more PPSs have gone- one in Environment and one in Treasury
Because he had him on trial. He's a superb barrister. He's a crap politician.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
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Boris looking at the live amount of MPs he's still got on side
But that's not what you said. You said he had "the country overwhelmingly behind him". As you well know, the FPTP system does not reflect the popular vote.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
MP Gary Sambrook sums it up perfectly for me
'The prime minister... always tries to blame other people for mistakes... nothing left for him to do other than to take responsibility and resign.'
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Point still stands.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.
It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.
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Douglas Ross has spoken and he should definitely go now. Maybe.
Can’t help but think this is a betrayal of the people of Ukraine by Ross given he thinks Johnson is the only person who can help them?
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His Russian paymasters are clearly forcing him to stay in the job no matter what.
They must have some amount of dirt on him.
It's incredible. I'd like to say that I was beginning to feel sorry for him, but that would be a lie. I hope it's as distressing and humiliating for him as it's possible for it to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Actually, precisely the opposite. He's probably the one Tory Starmer would be likely to beat now.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Both Indy and getting rid of the Tories would be much better served by keeping Johnson on life support but I personally can't stand him being there any longer.
No it doesn't.Quote:
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In Scotland? 83% dissatisfied with him.Quote:
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Yes, that's why we want him gone. LOL. Nothing to do with his completely disastrous handling of Brexit, COVID and the economy.Quote:
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Recent projections had the Tories losing over 100 seats, no way was Boris going to be able to turn that around into a landslideQuote:
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Yes truly mind boggling the support he still has amongst many. I can't even begin to respond to this one 🥴Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Five in one go
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Nah.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Labour know they can’t beat Boris.
Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.
They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.
I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.
It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.
If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.
Wonder if he's thinking of dissolving parliament soon.
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I hope the fat lying prick stays. He's the best weapon the independence movement have.Quote:
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There's a reason you can't prove it ...Quote:
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Popularity rating -48.
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics...pproval-rating
This couldn't be further from the truth. The Conservative party have finally realised he's now a liability. They only win the next GE without him.Quote:
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I always think that is overstated anyway but although I want Indy I don’t wish ill on the country just to achieve it. He needs to go.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
The Indy case is strong enough on its own, no matter who is in charge in London.
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Andrew Bowie comes out against Johnson.
Can't agree with any of this, really.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
He got elected on the back of the Brexit ticket and that led to him having a handsome majority.
The circumstances leading into the next election would be VERY different.
Even taking certain circumstances into account that weren't necessarily his fault - covid, then what looks like being a subsequent global financial crisis will have meant a very difficult few years for people whilst he has been in charge.
I think his departure would be a godsend to the Tories, although it might be worth holding onto him to soak up a bit of grief whilst we go through the next spell of financial turmoil before appointing someone new in time for a "fresh approach" to the next election.
He's toxic I'm afraid, and he's being saved to an extent by the opposition being as pish as they are.
Definitely disagree. If there is a GE before the referendum I think a decent number of Scottish Labour voters would give them a chance in power. If another tory victory after how bad they have been, they could say enough of this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Boris is best chance of a Labour and Indy win. But you'd be morally bankrupt if you wanted the idiot in charge for they reasons.
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Michael Gove has told Boris Johnson he must go
Housing Secretary delivered message to PM this morning
There hasn’t been much evidence of Scottish voters looking towards Labour?Quote:
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Senior Tory MPs are saying that Chris Heaton-Harris, the chief whip, is telling PM the game is up
There's still a sizable amount of Scottish Labour voters, particularly in older age groups. Probably the group that needs won over the most this timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!
True inflation would be huge anyway, but brexit has added a % pointQuote:
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But worse for us because of Brexit.Quote:
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Labour didn't spend £10billion on buying useless PPE from their friends, or give £4billion away in fraudulent furlough claims. Nor did they oversee a Brexit which resulted in the UK suffering an annual drop of £100billion in GDP.Quote:
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Mark Steel summarising all those Tory MP's resignation letters
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It has been an honour and a privilege, to work for and alongside the person I now accept has all along been a lying, cheating reckless sociopath. It is with sadness I can no longer work with this madman.
Stunning that some people still won't say brexit was bad, never mind one of the worst self inflicted moves a nation has done to itself.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Gdp will be hammered for decades, inflation higher than it would be, pound weaker which increases fuel prices, which increases inflation and repeat..
It’s nothing more than gaslighting to say otherwise.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
They are rats leaving a sinking ship, why has it taken until now for them to do something. Tory MPs don't have a conscience, just self interestQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Resignations left, right and centre. The point of no return has almost certainly been reached.
The primary function of the Conversative Party is to maintain the rule of the Conservative Party and, by extension, the political and upper class they support (i.e. socialism for the rich). Johnson is prioritising himself and refusing to allow this to happen which is why they're all losing their ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
monica lewens...i mean Princess nut nut for PM please, with Nodding Dug Dorries deputy
https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-ratingQuote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
You're absolutely wrong on how popular your leader is with the public!!!
The ONLY people who can honestly still be supporting Boris must be Independence supporters who see the increasing division and blunder this idiot is causing and want it to continue.
Nobody who understands politics at any level can say with any honesty that they think he's doing, or has done, a good job.
Seeing people suggesting he's 'done well on the big things' is equal parts hilarious and sickening. He's a criminal who is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people, who has shattered the economy with his Brexit activities (or lackthereof) and who has made us a laughing stock and paraiah nation with the clear intent to violate international law.
Surely there's a remote island somewhere where Boris and his supporters can be shipped off to while the rest of us try and pick up the ****ing pieces.
parliamentary private secretary Duncan Baker has resigned from the government, becoming the 28th MP to do so since yesterday
How?Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Do a google search on gaslighting. I’ve just done it and in no way can you attribute that to me.
To say otherwise is hugely insulting and totally uncalled for.
Made it easy for you….
Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim's mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition
My leader??? Bugger off.Quote:
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Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.
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preferably without internet access, only wind-up merchants and the deranged think he's the bee's knees
Douglas Ross now says Johnson should go. I've lost count of how many times he has changed his mind about Johnson's leadership since January. And yet we're not allowed to have another referendum because we've possibly changed our minds?
johnson struggling for the answer to how many ounces in the pound
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Don’t like what you’re reading? Might as well start burning books!!
Are you talking about Boris Becker or Boris Johnson?Quote:
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You can’t seriously be arguing that after all that’s gone on over the past few years that it’s only the media that aren’t best pleased with Boris. The public are in actual outrage at him and rightly so.
If his corrupt tory chums starting to turn on him (on top of everything else) doesn’t suggest anything negative to you in that regard then I think you’re right… it doesn’t really matter what he does.
I kind of hope you’re at the wind-up though.
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Right.Quote:
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Global inflation rates? UK is 9.1% Switzerland is 3.4% even India is lower than the UK.Quote:
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If you don’t like the ridiculous things he’s posting about Boris Johnson then you might as well burn all the stuff you do enjoy from writers you respect.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Something like that.
You are certainly giving him all your support though? 🤔Quote:
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Yeah, We can all google “which country has lowest inflation” just to try and make a point.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
If you’re an economist and want to put some meat on the bones and explain the intricacies of the Indian economy, go right ahead.
Otherwise, what point are you making?
I thought you made the point about inflation.. what’s wrong with someone offering stats?Quote:
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Not really.Quote:
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just chewing the fat with a few posters.
Except, Brexit, covid and the war with Ukraine (copyright nadine dorries 😂)Quote:
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Remember all the good things 🤔😜
Aye, whatever 😱Quote:
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At least you are now admitting to trolling.
Parliamentary private secretary Mark Logan resigns = 30
Was brought up by someone else.Quote:
Originally Posted by WeeRussell
Why bring India or the Swiss into it? I’ve not looked but I’d guess it’s cause they were the countries he could point to to try and make the uk look worse than it is?
Maybe we should strive to be like Rwanda at 2% or Chad at 0.5%?
There's a spare bridge over the Firth of Forth.
If anyone on here would like to buy it I'll give them a good price!
You can't possibly believe this can you?Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
You can't find any evidence to back up that's he's popular but just know it's true - you realise thats mental right?
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As far is inflations concerned that would be nice.
Gaslit nation.Quote:
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Flip-Flop Dross believes the PM should go
for today anyway
31 gone now.
He flips like a dying mackeral.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Smartie mentioned it, you replied that every government in the world has high inflation, I picked Switzerland because it's European and India because it is a former colony. I could have said China or Australia. But, the fact remains that the UK is trailing the majority of countries, with a few exceptions like Venezuela!Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Eu average is 8.6 , US 8.5. So we are worse ,brexit probably cost us a % which is no small thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Remember, Boris nd Co did away with international comparisons during Covid when we did away with graphs showing how poorly we were doing.Quote:
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Until he goes International comparisons are irrelevant.
Is there any way Boris Johnson survives this, even for a few weeks?
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Cabinet ministers privately saying it's all over but that they're staying in government out of a sense of duty
Duty not to PM, but to ensuring that there is still a government left to actually run the country
They think it will be done in the next 24-48 hours
He's so brazen that he will last it out until he is forced out.Quote:
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No. I think he’ll be gone by the time we go to bed tonight.Quote:
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I remember reading Bojo the clown has more MPs on the payroll than any other PM before, hence his win in the last VONC. Something like 242 of them are loyal and being paid more than their basic salary, so 31 isn't a huge number. This will get messy, the idiot will need to be dragged out of No10 with his nails scraping the floors as he goes. it is always fun to watch tories in total meltdown though :greengrin
Are you trolling?Quote:
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If Gove telling him isn't enough, & the Chief Whip telling him isn't enough, Truss should tell him. If that isn't enough, it'll be over to the 1922 & he'll be humiliated in the vote tomorrow
Watching Johnson at this committee is painful. He flicks through his papers as if he is looking for some sort of detail but he’s not even reading. He’s just fidgeting because he is totally lost.
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YepQuote:
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4pm. Still time for a few more.
1. Sajid Javid, Secretary of State for Health and Social Care
2. Rishi Sunak, Chancellor of the Exchequer
3. Andrew Murrison, trade envoy to Morocco
4. Bim Afolami, Conservative Party vice-chairman
5. Saqib Bhatti, parliamentary private secretary at the Department of Health and Social Care
6. Jonathan Gullis, parliamentary private secretary at the Northern Ireland Office
7. Nicola Richards, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Transport
8. Virginia Crosbie, parliamentary private secretary at the Welsh Office
9. Theo Clarke, trade envoy to Kenya
10. Alex Chalk, Solicitor General
11. Laura Trott, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Transport
12. Will Quince, parliamentary under-secretary of state for children and families at the Department for Education
13. Robin Walker, minister of state for school standards at the Department for Education
14. Felicity Buchan, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Business, Energy and Industrial Strategy
15. John Glen, minister of state at the Treasury
16. Victoria Atkins, minister of state for prisons and probation at the Ministry of Justice
17. Jo Churchill, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Environment, Food & Rural Affairs
18. Stuart Andrew, minister of state for housing at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities
19. Selaine Saxby, parliamentary private secretary at the Treasury
20. Claire Coutinho, parliamentary private secretary at the Treasury
21. David Johnston, parliamentary private secretary at the Department for Education
22. Kemi Badenoch, minister of state at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities
23. Julia Lopez, minister of state at the Department for Digital, Culture, Media & Sport
24. Lee Rowley, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Business, Energy & Industrial Strategy
25. Neil O’Brien, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Levelling Up, Housing & Communities
26. Alex Burghart, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Education
27. Mims Davies, parliamentary under-secretary of state at the Department for Work & Pensions
Put a dodgy barnet on Pacino and this will be tonight in Downing St ...
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:faf: You're a troll having a fantastic time watching people on here taking your bate.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Running total is now at 31 resignations.
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make that 32Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
truth is very important to Johnson :faf::faf: