Clarke should walk away after this
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Clarke should walk away after this
Your right, Scotland under Clarke have never been anything other than an average team.Quote:
Originally Posted by Borderhibbie76
So who could potentially be the next Scotland manager?
Took a deflection off McKennaQuote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
That is horrible from Gordon.
I'd be delighted if he starts performing like Thai for Hearts but when it's in a Scotland short he can GTF.
Don't, take no expert to work that one out, Scotland are in the football wilderness and we will not be going nowhere fast.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
He should be saving it. The behind view of the goal was honestly awful. He should be doing much, much betterQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Still straight at him, barely a foot or two to his left and he let it through him. He's been site all game, hopefully a sign of things to come from him!Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Get that useless turd Christie off, please
Amazes me how Gordon escapes criticism - never been questioned by commentators despite nearly scoring on OG and being culpable at 2 of the 3 goals- same against Ukraine when he stood in no man's land for their 2nd goal
christie tackled like a wee girl there, get him off clarke for the love of god man
That's passage of play there tells you everything you need to know about the mentality of the players.
Jack Ross?Quote:
Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
So weak it is unreal. Have our premiership superstars not got a short worked on corner rather than launch all of them at Duffy
poor for sjm needing to get replaced, and what a chance he totally fluffed in this game as well
The clowns are saying Gordon had no chance ….. nonsense, he showed how bad he can be when not playing for his beloved….. :greengrin
Hanley prevents a 4th
It don't really matter as we are going nowhere fast, we just don't produce good enough players anymore, for whatever reason no player that could compete on the world stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Renfrew_Hibby
Can't believe he's having a poor game against a team in green and white.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
VAR checking
:agree: He’s a gormless ****. GTF Clarke and take Carver & the Jambo Naismith with you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dazzling Doidge
Should goal line tech not have called it?
i think that was in
Can't believe that's not given
Guess I won't be watching Sportscene tonight 😅
VAR checking what? If Gordon is still in goals? If Hanley is a Centre Half, just mince.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
That was in no idea how VAR and goal line technology have missed that...Gordon again stuck to his line like glue
This is absolutely awful.
Clarke should get his jotters, been living off 2 penalty shootout wins that another manager put in the legwork for.
****ing pathetic, Ireland have scored more in this one game than their previous TWELVE nations league games AND haven’t won competitively at home in 7 years!
Don't think it did it swerved for sure but he should have done better I thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Euro 2024.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
worst ever result against the republic, i honestly can't believe this Scotland performance
i really don't think all the blame lies with Clarke here
How is Naismith anywhere near the Scotland set up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Half Pint
Do we really have to wait that long? There comes a point when managers’ records and reputations paper over cracks. Clarke out as far as I’m concerned. No knee jerk, feet firmly on the ground. Don’t try to defend the indefensible, unless, of-course, we settle for mundane mediocrity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Paul1642
Christie and Hendry should never be picked again, ever.
Losing to a abysmal Ireland team, Clarke can go, I've never understood why Christie continues to get picked.
What the hell is going on with this co-commentator? Theres favouring your own team , And then there is this ******** , he is like a fan who has had a skinfull before the game Cockney accent as well , guessing its cascarino..
Absolutely isn't players have been atrocious no fight no heart no bottle shameful performanceQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Surely Clarkes time is now up
I genuinely feel for anyone under the age of probably 35 who supports Scotland. I can remember 78, 82, 86 and was at 90, Euro96 and WC 98. We used to have very good players, some even world class and we had good managers as well to build on that quality. We now look like we are full of, at best, average players at international level and compounded by a ***** manager. Euro 2020 qualifying was lucky in the extreme and well be lucky to qualify even when they increase the teams to 48. ****ing depressing
Scotland, whit're we like eh? Wha's like us? Aw a big laugh like! I blame the Xboxes.
Agree. SFA have been in denial for forty years. The game here doesn't work. Perhaps we should have another think tank that doesn't say anything and definitely doesn't achieve anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
:dunno: He's a Horrible little gimp. No idea its So depressing Jim.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
..Agree,I have turned the sound off,no listening to his @@@@Quote:
Originally Posted by Leith Green
Hourihane on. Need to make sure we don't give any free kicks away within 30yards or it'll be 4.
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Originally Posted by JimBHibees
we started off here like we did against Ukraine, the most used word i'm hearing on radio about this performance is 'Flat'
irish plyers have had a long season as well but they're certainly not 'flat' who do we blame for this result
Forget this tournament.
We have to blame the flat earth society.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Blame predominantly Clarke but also the players. Thin line between flat and absolutely spinelessQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
TV turned off.
There's no appetite for change within the governing body and hasn't been for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Tournament too far. We were 2 games away from the WC a week ago, so not surprised the players are flat. Most of these players needed a decent break, and it shows. Ireland on the other hand are desperate just to win a game, and it shows.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Cause turkeys don't vote for Xmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
We were flat in Ukraine game also absolutely no excuse for that performance patheticQuote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Not strictly true, the Dutch and Iceland for example revamped their structures and had great results. It can be done, but not in Scotland it won't beQuote:
Originally Posted by A Hi-Bee
That would be fine if the players had left it all out there against Ukraine but that was hardly the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Clarke's post game comments should be interesting or will he get the wee gimp Naismith to stand in for him.
This is sair, but no entirely unexpected.
Without making excuses Ireland's recent record is nowhere near as bad as some would make out.
Not a lot of wins but draws with Belgium, Portugal, Serbia, Denmark, Slovakia and Wales in the last couple of years.
There have been a few shockers as well but this was never going to be a procession for a bang average Scotland team.
Mine was never on. No pleasure in watching Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
I only have 98 when i was 11.. IF and it’s a big IF Scotland qualify for 2026 I’ll be pushing 40…Quote:
Originally Posted by weecounty hibby
One of the worst scotland performances ive seen in a long time, changes should have been made after 30 mins
As you say it is never gonna happen, the Scottish turkeys will never vote for Xmas.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Team of players who all flatter to deceive. Not enough desire throughout and a **** manager who sets the team up poorly. His time should be up and these players should hang their heads.
FT thankfully only the three
lucky 13th for the irish
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Originally Posted by Aldot1981
Clarke like many a manager is a combination of stubborn and arrogant and,he is pretty useless to boot.
Where does Scottish football go from here, suggest nowhere as per, team is utter mince, with a roaster for a manager.
Genuine question but who would you have as manager?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Hi-Bee
Same here. I want the Scottish football team to win in the same way I want the Scottish curling team to win. Because they're Scottish. That's about the extent of my interest.Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
On the DART into Dublin City centre. Dreadful performance. No fight. Ireland wanted it more. Great travelling support of around 5K let down. No wonder I drink!
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Originally Posted by SloopJB
Dont think those irish players are any better than ours, we just played poorly
At a gig in Glasgow, quick look to see the score, wtf happened there,new manager and ideas needed.
You have earned it after that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
McPhee and Naismith, there’s 2 of our problems right there
Kenny Cunningham and Gary Breen are a pair of pricks.🤣
Michael Stewart just made the point about McPhee the set pieces coach - what tf was our defending at corners all about tonight?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberniankb
Cunningham keeps calling us ScotchQuote:
Originally Posted by 3pm
On the night yes, dont think there is any debate, wouldnt say man for man they are better, and as a team scotland were awful. Pretty sure we are higher in the world rankings than ireland also(doesnt go for much i suppose)Quote:
Originally Posted by SloopJB
:applause: Nothing but admiration for you travelling supporters. Through thick and thin You deserve more from this bunch of imposters led but the gormless Clarke. Enjoy your night pal you’ve earned it after that display.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
dunno why i'm watching the goal replays but at least i now realise that was thee most horrendous deflection for the irish 3rd goal and can't really blame gordon for that, the boy will probably never get a deflection like that in the rest of his career
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
You can. A deflection that completely changes the direction of the ball is fair enough, but it's hit from a distance that Gordon should be reacting to. Professionals train deflections, there's plenty of brilliant drills to help deal with them and whilst it was a wicked one, it doesn't change the flight path enough to excuse Gordon.
Think it was more the power that beat him than anything, a stronger hand to it and he may have saved it but wasnt to beQuote:
Originally Posted by cameronw-hfc
On paper I'd take our team over there's any time. They 100% deserved their win tonight but I would still say our squad is ahead of them if you look at club form and who they play for.Quote:
Originally Posted by SloopJB
Unfortunately our manager and set up at national level is brutal.
On the rocks?Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Would appear some of our EPL stars are believing the hype. Mcginn included.
Think they can just turn up and stroll it
Well, after a wee while were there seemed to be a bit of hope for Scotland international fitba we seem to be back at square one.
That qualifies as one of the most inept performances of the last 20 years, FFS even the usually reliable SJM seems to have lost his mojo, missed two really good chances and both of them exactly the same as one he also missed in the last game. The only thing I would say is that the way SJM plays he is the sort of player who at some point has to get a rest or he will be burnt out by the time he's 29 ... at the moment he looks like he could do with that break in all honesty.
I suppose there isn't much hope defensively when at the very heart of it is a guy who was a regular in a Norwich defence that looked like it couldn't defend a set piece against a pub league team, not all his fault obviously, the defending at the first and second goals was woeful by any standard, bugger all anybody could have done for the third, that shot moved all over the place.
Its hard to see where we go from here, the fact is that apart for ( for some reason ) an ability to produce top notch left backs this country hasn't produced a stand out winger, midfield player* or striker ( especially striker ) for practically 30 years and we look no closer to doing that than we were 10 or 20 years ago ... that is surely reflected in the fact that I had barely heard of any of our late subs this afternoon.
If the SFA can't look at this state of affairs and admit that whatever it is they are doing to improve the standard of player produced by this country is falling woefully, ineptly and pathetically short of that aim then it is seriously time to get shot of the bloody lot of them. The very fact that they have never been able to admit that to have two governing bodies sooking money out of the game in a country of this size is ridiculous in the modern era says it all really.
* That isn't to disrespect SJM, he is very good at what he does, the problem is that what he does should make him the workhorse in our midfield, not the bloody standout go to player in practically every game he plays in.
McGinn was pitiful in the Ukraine and Rep of Ireland games (I didn't see the Armenia game).Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
He was ok there but Hibs could’ve given Armenia a good game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Ireland don't have better players than us. I can't think of many of their players who would get in our starting 11.Quote:
Originally Posted by SloopJB
Using that logic when Scotland beat France all those years ago we had better players then them.
TBH I couldn't believe it when I learned there that we still have another game to go. I'm fed up with football and desperately keen for there to be a spell without a game for me to give 2 hoots about.Quote:
Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE
It can't be easy to still be having to raise your game at this stage after a full season.
The Ireland players didn't seem to have any trouble doing it right enough.
McGinn doesn't strike me as guy who just thinks he can turn up and stroll it. He's not played well last few games but let's not start slandering his character.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
You dont watch them, no pleasure etc but here you are moaning about them. A lot on here complaining about how bad Scotland are (they were tonight), then say they have no interest anyway. Okay then...Quote:
Originally Posted by OldEast
Even at Hibs he was capable of a dip in form and that's clearly the case just now. As I said in my other post IMO he is approaching burn out and it's showing up in him losing challenges you would normally expect him to win, his passing being below par and his finishing worse. He is beyond needing a rest IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
And wry?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
wales 1 belgium 0 4 mins
VAR checking, chalked off for offside
0-0
great attitude from the welsh players early doors
Still nae decent centre forwards or centre halfs. It means we always have to be on absolute top of our game to win games and as soon as we drop off a bit, we struggle.
Yeah, that’s pretty much how I see it tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by NAE NOOKIE
It would always be a bold move for Clarke to leave McGinn out but it might have been in the better interests of the player, manager and team if he’d been used more sparingly throughout this sequence of games.
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Originally Posted by 3pm
That Garys Breens co commentary was awful. Came across as if he was sitting shouting at the television in a packed dublin boozer. Ranks up there as most cringeworthy commentator of all time
How’s the England game empty??
Punishment for Euro final problemsQuote:
Originally Posted by darwenhibby
Anticipating a few call-offs for the trip to Armenia.