My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.
How can people support Putin?
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My gym owner has just posted a pro Russian video, I’ve challenged him and he’s just replied ‘Putin over Sunak any time’.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Want to challenge him but genuinely dumbfounded.
How can people support Putin?
Sounds like the guy has a few issues. Don’t think we get to choose between the two.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
I wouldn’t waste your effort. Western folk who are still pro Putin after the last few years will never change their mind so might as well not fall out with your Gym owner over it 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
I guess the mindset starts with thinking that politicians like Sunak, Biden ect = **** which I think many of us 100% agree with however somewhere down the line they mange to twist that into thinking lunatics like Putin and Trump are the answer.
The answer should be competent sane politicians who aren’t corrupt however unfortunately on the rare occasion that one appears they never make it near the top.
Gullibility + ignorance ^ propaganda.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
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Before I get accused of supporting Trump, I don’t, unfortunately his Truth social has just done some sort of merger which values his share at £4 billion.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
There is a clause that he can’t sell shares for 6 months or something so he can’t cash in.
Hope to *uck it goes tits up and he ends up bankrupt and/or in jail
Millions of Americans will now be voting Brussel Sprout as a result of this post. The only part man/part vegetable who will build the swamp, drain the wall and make America great again like Trump failed to do first time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Go Sprout.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
I'm beginning to think we are experiencing some form of abnormally fast evolutionary split within the Homo Sapiens species.
One group is what you might call Homo Rational and the other group is what you might call Homo Thick C***s.
Unfortunately it's the latter group in power in the UK, and likely to get back into power in the US. We're doomed.Quote:
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Jeez, other gyms are available.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
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Saw this on threads
MASSIVE NEWS - DOJ says 60-day rule does NOT apply to Trump trials, because he’s already been indicted
So the Trump federal trials CAN happen even if they run into September/October
Drastically increases odds that Trump is tried — and convicted — before the election in November
Please be true.
I honestly think the money issue will become his biggest issue long before then.Quote:
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It's scary enough that the US holds so much sway in the world, but it's absolutely terrifying that their only 2 candidates to lead them are old codgers who are obviously losing their cognitive faculties.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And one of them's a fascist lunatic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
I’ve not read the story properly but it looks like trump has tried to sell shares in Truth to pay his fines so he can appeal but hasn’t told he guys who founded it.
They’re now suing him too.
I’m praying that he can’t pay his fines and the attorney general starts seizing properties
Light-bending-round-them energy.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Trump has until Saturday to stump up about $85m for the first of his fines. That will give an early indication of whether he is likely to make the $455m fine by 25th March.
I don’t think he makes either payment?
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https://x.com/sherry6767/status/1764...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Trumps chief financial officer pleads guilty to perjury. Likely to do time.
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Trump talking winds me up so much. It’s like that Limmy sketch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
https://youtube.com/shorts/Ein57OSrq...-Gpzzmk_lu_jOd
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Alarmingly, everything is pointing to Trump getting the Republican nomination. I don’t think his misconduct guilt and financial burden will hinder his progress against the fierce opposition of sleepy Joe Biden.
He will def get the nomination now unless his legal troubles get in the way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Biden will beat him in the GE though. And by more than 2020.
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68280062
Trump wins at Supreme Court stopping states removing him from ballot.
I wonder if he’ll go for compensation. $ 350 million would come in handy. :greengrin
I think there is a lot of Haley supporters who won’t vote for trump.
It’s normally 50/50 and the floating voters decide the election but no chance the majority of floating voters vote for trump, added with the moderate republicans who might just abstain then I think Biden should be a bit more comfortable than last time
He still hasn't accepted the last result and if and hopefully when he loses, there's zero chance he will accept that either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It's what happens after that concerns me.
Even if he loses because he hasn’t served two terms he’ll keep popping up like a bad penny until he dies. The grift is too strong for him. What else is he going to do?Quote:
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Campaign for his release?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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I don't think the two terms thing would stop him if he is elected again. He's already said at a few campaign events that 'they'll look in to a third term as he's been treated so unfairly'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/worl...anada-68427309
Haley out of the race.
Whats the odds on her being Trumps V P pick. Make sure her voters come his way.
:agree: When he was president, he also spoke admiringly about China removing term limits for president so Xi Jinping could stay in office, in a just-putting-it-out-there kind of a way.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
I read yesterday that in a Democrat survey in 3 of the swing states (that eliminated previous Trump voters and election deniers so they were hearing from gettable voters, basically,) only about a third had any awareness of the authoritarian threats Trump has made, including suspending or terminating parts of the constitution and being a dictator on Day 1. When presented with his statements, it had a negative effect on their impression of him, which suggests that if Americans who want to hang onto their democracy / don't want to be ruled by a wannabe spiteful and dictatorial King with a revenge lust can get that information out there, it might make a difference. Not a huge survey, but it's both worrying and hopeful... the only thing is, his threats have been very widely reported here. If people who aren't Trump-minded aren't hearing what he's saying now, I'm not sure how you reach them.
Almost zero I think? Mind you, I’m frequently amazed at how craven some people can be.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by s.a.m
A US President can’t change their constitution.
Sounds like democrat scare tactics
Sounds like Trumps own scare tactics as he talks about going against the constitution practically ever time he speaks.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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He said it out loud, with his own mouth. He also said that he would be a dictator on day 1. Also out of his own mouth, on the telly, he has said that he would use the military to crush dissent, and that he would be removing the government's legal personnel - amongst others - and replacing them with loyalists who would do what they were told.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Even Fox have drawn attention, occasionally, to some of this. And there's a clip of Sean Hannity, who's been a big Trump booster, trying to help him out on the retained records issue, along the lines of: - So it's ridiculous to suggest that you'd deliberately take and hang onto these documents, isnt it Mr President?...
- You betcha I did. They're MINE!
[They're not. Brief summary:
§ 2202. Ownership of Presidential records
The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter. https://www.archives.gov/about/laws/...l-records.html]
He keeps saying these things out loud. Repeatedly. At best, he's a egregious bull*******. At worst, he's a very serious threat, and not just to the US.
BTW. Where can see these democrat scare tactics in action?Quote:
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Originally Posted by greenginger
None according to this Republican Congress woman
https://twitter.com/BGatesIsaPyscho/status/1765303190059110694?t=VejkFCycqla9NHFAfPXdOQ&s=19
Please watch to the very end 🤣
https://x.com/PettyLupone/status/176...Vmc6fQM2Q&s=09
Is this an example of democrat scare tactics?
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Paid the first of his fines today in the rape and defamation case. Good news because at least this woman will get paid.
Still another $400m+ to find by 25th March.
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I think it’s abond which had to be paid to allow an appeal. Could be wrong but I think Carroll gets a penny of it…yetQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I don’t think he has thr £400 million though, but I have a suspicion he’ll raise it somehow.
She doesn’t get anything yet until after the appeal but once she wins, the cash is sitting there waiting for her.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
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Hopefully he will be bankrupt and in jail by thenQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Looks like trump has posted his $90 million bond by getting a bond/loan from a Russian backed business called Chubb.
Nothing dodgy there then.
Amazing how a billionaire with all this cash, needs a loan for 90 million.
Chubb is a multi-national which operates in over 50 countries including UK and the US as well as Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
It’s not been accepted yet. Tomorrow afternoon before we find out if the lawyers object to it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
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That the keys and locks company?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
No.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Chubb locks n keys was a brand name owned by Assa Abloy…a rather large Swedish conglomerate. I think the brand is actually dead now.
Chubb financial is completely different.
The origins of why both have / had the Chubb name I have no idea but sounds like a good afternoon for some rabbit hole Googling!
Ok cheersQuote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Basically both originally set up by people with the surname Chubb. No relation to each other, I don't thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
And chubb locks are still available.Quote:
Originally Posted by overdrive
Looks like Trump can’t come up with the bond for the 25th March deadline. Shame.
Looking forward to seeing his assets start to get seized from next week.[emoji106]
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Just read that, the fact his lawyers are admitting such suggests that he has no chance of raising it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Would love to see him get his assets seized, just hope it doesn’t give him a bounce in the polls
We're talking about the man who managed to bankrupt his own Casinos. How can anyone bankrupt a money making machine?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
Read this on Quora a while recently
Ridiculous debt. Trump financed the casinos with junk bonds at high interest rates, that had a slim chance of being repaid even if the casinos were successful. I’m pretty sure he knew this, and so after taking his cut simply planned on running, leaving investors holding the bag. When I first got into gambling someone once told me, “Whenever you win, put some away, then gamble with the rest of the winnings, then stop. Gamble with the casino’s money, not your money”.
Overexposure. Atlantic City was already full of casinos. Trump wasn’t the first guy to dream about “the East Coast Las Vegas”. To add one more casino to the mix would be a significant risk. However, Trump at one point was running FOUR Atlantic City casinos. He thought that by having four of them, he might get four times the gamblers. Nope. He got the same number of gamblers, now spread across four casinos, at four times the price.
Per above, I believe Trump had approached this situation with his real estate thinking, believing that four properties might net four times the revenue, like tenants and rents. Haha, totally different animals. Gamblers aren’t signing leases, moving into casinos, and paying rent. There’s only so many gamblers, thankfully a small percentage of the population, who aren’t at all like the majority of people who might be looking for residential or office space.
Location. At that time in the 80’s, many of the high rolling gamblers were coming in from Asia. Trump knew this and had concierge offices with Chinese and Japanese speakers set up in his casinos. But AC was quite out of their way across the country, while most of them would be flying into LAX, where LV was only a short hop away.
Indian casinos. A few years after Trump had got his casinos running, the US Govt cut a deal with the Native American tribes of the nation, for them to open casinos on their land. Much of this land was in New England, near NYC and AC. This had a devastating effect on Trump’s and the rest of AC’s casinos.
Image. For some reason Trump has a well-known penchant for gaudy, ostentatious design. Lots of fake gold trim and opulent accents must surround everything of his. It very much seems to scream, “Look at me, I’m rich”. But like the old saying, money can’t buy taste. This was very off-putting to many, who’d rather stay and gamble at classier properties.
Terrible business relations. Trump was well-known for being a cheapskate, demanding the lowest bid on construction projects, who he’d then delay in paying, or not even paying at all. The result, his casinos were terribly built. Guests often complained of issues with their rooms, lights and plumbing not working, and leaks. Word got around and this affected business. Years later as seen here, the abandoned Trump Plaza then actually started crumbling, so was deemed a public safety hazard and ordered demolished. A fitting metaphor for Trump’s casino ventures, as well as most other things that are Trump in America.
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https://thehill.com/regulation/court...in-fraud-case/
4 days to go. The only way he gets out of paying is declaring bankruptcy before Monday otherwise the state will move to seize his properties. If he goes for bankruptcy then Friday would need to be the day. Will be very interesting to see which way he goes.
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Surprised Elon hasn’t put the money up for him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Genuinely thought this might happen too.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Hadn’t thought of this but surely no way he gets involved in such toxic politics?Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
His shareholders in his companies would freak out and I’m sure Tesla etc would drop in value. Maybe wouldn’t matter to him of course
Have you seen what he allowed onto X/Twitter since he bought it. Not to mention his own habit of liking horrendous bulls...Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
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Take it you don’t do twitter, he is knee deep in politics with his chat on his platform, very anti Biden and seems pro Trump, every hour is a post from him about immigration and how illegals are killing American citizens, bet you he employs plenty of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
It’s a lot of cash even for billionaires to just give away.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
I think he’ll find a way to get the bond but he’ll likely have to give up some of his assets. If he doesn’t then he is in big trouble.
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What a champ.[emoji23]
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Kim Jong what's his name could not have written it better.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
America needs it's collective head examined just by giving this lunatic the chance to be president.
In the UK people voted for a party which chose Liz Truss to be Prime Minister. Liz Truss. It's not just America.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
He should get bare chested and ride around on a big white horse ala Mad Vlad Putin. It's what real champs do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He is going to win the darts world championship today then become boxing's undisputed world welterweight champion straight after.
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Being a blowhard about some dodgy golf round is the USA equivalent to a Russian President riding a horse bareback.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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Donna is right up there with Kim Jong Un in the Strangest Shape in a Strange Shaped Suit and Matching Hairstyle World Championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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https://x.com/lauraloomer/status/177...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Another 10 days to pay and bond amount reduced to $175m.
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Trump at the Manhattan DA criminal hearing in NY before dealing with his lack of bond for his civil case under Judge Engoron. Trump's lawyer after starting with diversionary tactics is getting torn a new one my Judge Jaun Merchan. Trump and his lawyer have been asked to cite cases where there was clear judicial misconduct by the Manhattan DA and by the Judge himself. Said the lawyers pattern of delays has been going on for months. Before going into a break Merchan stated the Manhattan DAs office went so far above and beyond what they were required to do, that "it is odd that we're even here"
Merchan after recalling the court offered a 30 day adjournment. In doing so he got Trump's lawyer to agree that certain things they have been saying are simply not true ( a tactic of giving him enough rope etc). He also pointed out that with Trump's lawyers experience in the SDNY prosecutors office he should know fine and well that he could have done what he is doing now, months ago. I think they are at another break now but this is not going well for Trump or his lawyer. I think NY state appeals court lowers Trump's bond to $175mil.
TLDR? NY state appeals court lowers Trump's bond to $175 million for civil fraud judgment while Judge Juan Merchan notes a "pattern" of discovery misconduct in Trump's criminal case.
Trump hush money trial to start on 15th April Donald Trump's $464m deadline and Stormy Daniels hearing - live updates - BBC News from 17:03
Trump said afterwards
"they are doing things never done before, it happens in third world countries" and "the judge cannot go fast enough to get this started" Biden & his thugs etc etc etc, Trump has pleaded not guilty to 34 counts of Fraud related to an alleged cover-up of that payment in his accounts.
ermm probably because they've never had such a bent corrupt crooked PoS for an ex-president before, ya radge
and maybe if yer lawyers hadn't spent so many months with stalling tactics it would have been started a lot earlier, ya radge
TBF 30k “swivel eyed loons” that are the Tory party membership picked her. Nothing to do with the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
But they also voted BREXIT and Johnson so what do I know?
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You don’t get a Tory Prime Minister unless the public vote in a Tory Govenment. Everything to do with the public.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
The public didn't vote for Truss.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
Or Sunak.
I know, but specifically the last two Tory Prime ministers. It’s been a small cadre of Tory party members that have anointed them. I’d make a claim that they perhaps aren’t the best judges of who should be Prime Minister.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
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Members didn't vote in Sunak. That was the Parliamentary Tory party, which the public voted in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
No, members downselect and have a runoff until there’s two standing. It then goes out to the Tory Party members.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
The swivel eyed loons then choose who from that two is their favourite.
We’ve had so many of these recently I’m surprised you are not au fait with the process.
The public most definitely have not chosen Truss or Sunak.
They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.
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The coverage of those events had a tone as though they were choosing a song for Eurovision. Little chat of the state of the nation, all about: which candidate would acceptable to the party, how that candidate appeals to this demographic and how another "goes down well" with another. Absolutely living in a tiny Londoncentric media bubble, none of whom are affected by that parties' disastrous tenure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Well, it was the straw that broke the camels back. For about 5 to 6 years his followers had all regurgitated his lies and backed him, until they couldn't do it any longer. He should never have been anywhere near parliamentary politics anyway.Quote:
They chose Johnson but the Parliamentary Party killed him off.
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Nope. What you describe happened with Truss. But with Sunak, the Parliamentary Party didn't trust the membership to choose their preferred candidate (Sunak). So they changed the rules for eligibility and no choice was ever presented to the swivel eyed loons outside Westminster.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
How did the Conservatives elect a new leader?
Nominations
Under the rules of the latest leadership contest, candidates needed to have the support of at least 100 Conservative MPs (not including themselves).
Rishi Sunak was the only one to reach that level and so became the party leader.
As there are currently 357 Tory MPs, a maximum of three candidates could have met the threshold.
The other contenders - Boris Johnson and Penny Mordaunt - both withdrew from the process.
Right enough. Forgot about that. Even worse. The nutters didn’t even get a choice with Dishy Rishi.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
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Was there any vote when Gordon Brown took over from Blair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
That long ago , I can’t remember
Came on to see what news about Trump and I see its all about Tories and who voted in their leader. I thought we already had a Tory thread.
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Totally normal.[emoji102]
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https://x.com/fladems/status/1774893...dxJXScFNwz8V4A
Great news for Biden in Florida.
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Trump pays his 175m bond in the NY trial.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-68709895
Wonder who subbed him that amount..Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
The Los Angeles-based company Knight Insurance Group.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
November truly is a lose/lose situation. Either Trump wins legitimately and does exactly what he says he’ll do - and the country is ****ed; or he loses, and there is so much civil unrest from his cult members, that the country is ****ed.
He’s broken it beyond any kind of repair.
https://x.com/RonFilipkowski/status/...704472772?s=20
Incredible it has got to this. Shameful lack of leadership over so many yearsQuote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Trump will lose heavily in November. There may be a bit of unrest but the authorities will be ready to deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
The US will still be a mess but stronger for having seen off Trump.
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I sincerely hope you’re right, but I have serious concerns. Biden will win the popular vote by millions, but it’s what matters in a handful of states that matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Trump was speaking in Mississippi yesterday, spouting his usual lies and bile. He was flanked on either side by various different law enforcement officers, standing with him, not as security.
His actions caused the death of police officers at the capitol, and yet these idiots continue to back him. I hope your confidence is proven correct, but I think that country is completely broken.
Totally agree, Jim.Quote:
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Yeah, I'm not convinced he'll lose either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
I sincerely hope you're correct, but what makes you think that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The polls have them neck and neck.
It’s still very early for the polls to count for much. I think when it comes to the crunch Americans will vote for stability. No sitting President has ever lost with an economy performing as well as the US is just now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
The Biden campaign is better funded and organised and that will count for a lot as we move out of the summer. The Trump campaign is skint and he is using what he has for his legal bills.
In the end I think Biden wins handsomely.
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Putin, probably.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
It's a company similar to Wonga.Quote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
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Bizarre that trump has to borrow money from shysters like that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Even more weird is that they gave him the money. It's not like they will ever see that again.Quote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
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Originally Posted by degenerated
He's not borrowing any money from them.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
They are putting up a bond, which doesn't need any payment by anyone at the moment. It becomes payable if, for example, he defaults on any of the Court conditions. The bond is secured againt " a combination of cash and investment-grade bonds"
If he loses his appeal, it (and the rest) will be payable by DT. If he then skips the country, they will have to pay the 175m, and will recover it through their security.
He will need to pay a fee for their service, a normal bond fee is around 10%, which given the companies owner's background of sub prime lending and charging the highest interest rates allowed in each state, I would say is a bargain!Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Just seen that NY Court has rejected the bond due to insufficient paperwork from the bond supplier, they have to resubmitted with more background on their finances. The person behind the company is a multibillionaire so I can't imagine this will be an issue but the bond remains un-posted.