An entire life spent being a despicable James Hunt.
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An entire life spent being a despicable James Hunt.
https://youtu.be/0p-Ta83V7iw
Seemingly May had her majority publically declared by lunchtime. I still think he'll squeak through this but it's another big wound. Then he's got the by-elections to lose later this month. Then the Commons inquiry into partygate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I get the strategic "keep him around to make sure they lose the GE" position but I'd rather have him gone just so I don't have to see his smug, entitled pus ever again (unless it's torn faced and broken, which it will be permanently once the enormity of his failure sinks in.)
Also, he's one day short of Gordon Brown's stint in office, so if he gets the boot tonight, he'd be the shortest serving PM since Anthony "Suez" Eden.
Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)
Reckon he'll win by about 60/40 - but would expect some of the 125 who have declared support to vote against, such as Liz Truss and others with leadership ambitionsQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Obviously knows he is winning thenQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Imagine prime minster truss... JesusQuote:
Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby
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Johnson will only leave office when he dies or loses an election.
I can barely keep up with this guy. There are people out there who think he should be First Minister of Scotland. It’s incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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Or is arrested unlikely as that might be :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
I'm the same. Probably weaker with him but who knows. He deserves the tin pail, never mind the humiliation of defeatQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
If he loses a confidence vote can he just call an election?
patrickkmaguire
Asked about the conduct described in the Sue Gray report, Boris Johnson told MPs: "I'd do it again.
Senior Conservative source says PM told Mark Harper he would thank staff again for their hard work
(Dan Hodges)))
@DPJHodges
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Steve Baker first to emerge. Says mood in meeting was to forgive and move on. But says he personally will not support Boris, and he should go. Says he expects Boris will win vote but see significant vote against
A classic
https://twitter.com/David_Cameron/st...c3Blx41OA&s=19
Britain faces a simple and inescapable choice - stability and strong Government with me, or chaos with Ed Miliband: https://t.co/fmhcfTunbm
Is that a double uturn?Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
We have had against, for, against-until-ukraine-war-over and back to against.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr Grieves
I think :dunno:
Double somersault with twist?
Baroness Davidson was reiterating her view this morning that Johnson has to go. I wonder if that's what made up Ross' mind for him? She seems to be very much in the wings, or at least the media treats her as if she is.
Douglas Ross is a slimey, spinless waste of space. He wants to be a leader but can't make a decision. Shown himself up for what he is, pathetic.
She will be wheeled out next year along with Blair as the front for better together mark IIQuote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
He has a choice, resign or call a GE and let the people decide. James Callaghan lost a Motion of no confidence in '79 and he asked the Queen to dissolve parliament and trigger a GE and we all know how that went! Different rules now but same principle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
No, that was a vote of confidence in the government in parliament. This one is a vote of confidence in Johnson as leader of the Tories just by his own party. The Tories booting him out as leader doesn't actually remove him as PM until he resigns or the Queen asks another Tory to form a government (I think). So I think there would be a window where he could request a dissolution of parliament, but I've no idea if it would be granted?Quote:
Originally Posted by Oscar T Grouch
If he made up his mind as a linesman like he does as a politician, it would look like he's sending semaphore.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Bozo surviving (which seems very likely) is probably the best thing for those of us wanting rid of the Tories. It means he will limp on as PM, but severely wounded. The Tories won't be able to say they are making a fresh start; all the scandals of Bozo remain with them. A new leader, more honest and more competent, would cause many people to forgive the Tories. I'm sure the opposition parties secretly want him to stay on.
I think you’re right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
But the current incumbent still has support from some areas of the general public. I honestly think he’d be in with a shout of staying PM after a general election.
I’d rather just have someone competent in charge now. It’s nice to play political games but a lot of people are going to be really struggling over the next couple of years and they can’t really wait for a GE.
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Jacob Rees Mogg boils my piss. He really is ****ing twat.
**** off back to nanny and quote some Latin to her you pompous prick.
1/9 to win with the bookies.
Votes against
50-99 8/1
100-149 4/5
150-199 13/8
200-249 14/1
shame on any individual that votes for that utter cowardly crooked corrupt clown, lets see which ones have a backbone
wonder how many he's called promising them promotion
(Always extremely) Sweaty sock MP Andrew Bowie votes against. As does John Lamont who has actually resigned his position as pps to Luz Truss.
That makes 50% of Scots Tories confirmed as revolting.
Mundell also voted against - 4/6 nowQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
ConversationQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
ALASTAIR CAMPBELL
@campbellclaret
Hearing that we are into double figures for the number of backbenchers who’ve been “promised”
@KwasiKwarteng
job
ha no surprise there :) Millionaire Tory Donors now getting in on the act and insisting they want corruption to continue no doubt so they can continue increasing the funds in their canary island accounts, there's never been a Tory PM/Cabinet perfectly willing to help out those with lots of moneyQuote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Dave Gould �� on Twitter: "Nadine Dorries has just announced that donors have said that they want Boris Johnson to continue and will withhold funding if he’s removed and therefore backbench MPs should listen to them. Nakedly admitting that the Tory party leadership is in the hands of a few millionaires." / Twitter
apparently Dorries is having a tad of a meltdown on Twitter
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
She’s absolutely unbelievably bad at her job.
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Thanks
:aok:
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Originally Posted by Northernhibee
Johnson's number 1 front bench nodding dug is having a ding-dong twitter spat with jeremy hunt
Nadine Dorries just laid into Jeremy Hunt and it might be her biggest self-own yet - The Poke
Rees Mogg back in 2018 with the confidence vote on Theresa May. 117 votes was a very bad vote for the PM according to him.
Let's see how it pans out this evening.
https://twitter.com/BBCNewsnight/sta...90467598385152
nicholaswatt
Some very long faces on supporters of
@BorisJohnson
after poll closed. One PM ally said of Tory MPs: They are a bunch of lying snakes. I don’t trust anything they say
One of those long faces included a strong supporter of the PM who said of the rebels: I could throttle some of my colleagues. They want to hand our country to a coalition of Labour, the SNP and the Liberal Democrats. It will be votes at 16 and then who knows what will happen
Moray Ross says he is supporting a vote of no confidence when the vote is a vote of confidence. Does he know what he is voting for
I wouldn’t trust him to understand the ballot paper. Who knows what he eventually voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
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So it continues…..
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Worse than Theresa May.[emoji106]
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211-148 win for Bozo.
He is toast, but will limp on.
211-148
Hardly a resounding victory.
What a shower of cowards.
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He will be gone in the next few months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Sat there banging on tables like coked up idiots
Lame duck PM
Almost 150 of his own MPs want him out. It's a real mess for Johnson, leaving him in limbo. He is severely weakened by the result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Not sure that should be a simile. 🤧Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Quite a lot worse. 👍Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
He's broken the law and he's overseen corruption and the destruction of the British economy and yet 211 still think he's the man for the job...
Astounding.
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Will survive until the end of the year now. Inflation should peak in autumn and second gas hike. New person in when its getting better
Dougie Ross🤔 wonder what he'll do now? Johnson will limp on and continue to cause havoc with his band of sycophantic fascists like Patel and Dorries in tow
Zahawi is a disgrace.
He is marking time now.
Will he have a leaving party?
I think he'll call a general election and deselect all the rebels.
Don't think he cares if he loses to Starmer or one of his own MPs, just that it doesn't happen.
The Johnson loyalists lining up on Sky are just taking the mick out of the electorate. Shameful.
Par for the course with this government, they've continually taken the electorate for a ride, but there are some out there in the electorate who still think he's doing a good jobQuote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
He's going to try some desperate stuff to cling on. Apparently on Thursday he'll announce housing association tenants will have the right to buy. Will win votes in that group but make the future worse
Too many ******g sheep on this Island.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan91
The recent Jubilee proved that...
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Nobody thinks he'll resign but I wonder if 2 absolute wipe outs in the upcoming by elections might tip him over the edge.
Their contempt for the public is incredible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
That policy will be a disaster and very difficult to implement and cost a fortune. Housing Associations are private sector organizations and I never thought I’d see a Tory government take from the private sector and redistribute to the people!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Giving an interview now, more blustering pish with that ridiculous grin on his puss.
https://www.insidehousing.co.uk/news/news/right-to-buy-extension-announcement-expected-this-week-75936Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
2.5 million will be eligible
75% of backbenchers voted against him.
They know they’re toast.
It will be bad, just as selling council houses was. Hopefully the Scottish position is sufficiently devolved that it won't apply up here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Cutting comments from Sir Roger Gale on the BBC. Essentially, the government will get on with things but he won't see out the year. Ouch...
About a tenth of those he extorted.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Who owns housing associations?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
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Two big by-elections coming up, one a rock solid Tory seat in Devon. If they lose another stronghold seat, the pressure on Johnson will further intensify. All Tory MPs will be looking at their majority and wondering what could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Northernhibee
They are private companies. Their housing is built using government grant but mainly private finance. All of that would have to be unpicked by government if they imposed right to buy. Also this would bring housing associations into the public sector and so all their debt would become public (around 15bn). The government ran a pilot in the west midlands a couple of years ago but there was little take up and proved hugely expensive. That is the reason why even Cameron and Osborne didn’t do it. Also as private organizations, there would be huge legal issues as in essence, their property is being taken off them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Boris to be replaced in 2022, seems a good bet on skybet at 11/8
Thought they were regulated by the Gov? It might have changed and I've not picked up on it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
Yes they are regulated by the Social Housing Regulator so they have to abide by many standards but they are private organizations that are become Registered Providers of Social Housing. They use private finance as well as government grant to build homes for rent and sale. These homes are often used as security for further finance. You can begin to see the real difficulties a right to buy policy will cause. And this at a time when we need more housing for social rent. The impact on rural and high value areas for those on low incomes needing a home will be hugeQuote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
A mate bought 50% of his house from housing association up here. I guess that's different because it was through them? Also maybe at market price, although I'm not sureQuote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
There's always two sides. There will be HA tenants who will save money through a discounted sale with a more affordable mortgage. If I was in that boat I'd be delighted to finally have a bit more money each month. There's nothing wrong from benefitting from a policy even if you strongly oppose the political party who has implemented the policy imo. Agree with your point about the failure to replace the ex stock with more social newbuild.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
That's shared ownership. The H.A. retains 50% and a monthly occupancy fee. The part owner is 100% liable for the property, no assistance from the HA if there are any problems with the property.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Think he can buy 100 eventually. I don't mind people getting help to get on property ladder but as long as that money goes to more Social housing. Really hard times for young people looking for rent or a mortgageQuote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
Yeah they can, each time they increase their share they incur more legal fees. Quite hard to get a mortgage for the share unless you have a substantial deposit. Not the cheapest option sometimes paying both a mortgage and occupancy fee, the amount each H.A charges varies wildly. Yip really hard time for young people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Sorry, I'm derailing again...just bored and disappointed, we'll get shot of them eventually.
Only positive is and I'm not really a gambler but I like looking to see the trend, a few bookies now have labour favourites for next election tonight. First time in years they have been. Obviously long to go but...Quote:
Originally Posted by Santa Cruz
I’ve found the Lord of the Gammons on Newsnight tonight… I give you…Adam Holloway PM.
Given the amount of pish he talked I'd prefer he just stayed an MP, rather than taking over from Johnson.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Its astonishing that they insist the whole thing boils down to "ambushed by a cake." Laying it bare as though that is all that happened and is even the point. You can only think they either button up the back or are aiming this guff at people who do.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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The Belarusian view.
https://twitter.com/nexta_tv/status/...jKb5IXb1Q&s=09
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That's a pro Ukraine anti lukachenko paper, one of its editors is in jail for being anti Moscow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Twitter was full of pro Ukrainians defending him yesterday. Partygate looks trivial if there is a genocide going on in your country, but that means f all in the uk. There is no war here so partying when we were protecting each other and lying to parliament is huge.
If he went the next person would also back Ukraine, he needs to go
And Zelensky would automatically become the new PM’s best friend and he would likely never mention Johnson’s name again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
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Definitely and understandablyQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Woke up this morning and although it’s almost certainly the beginning of the end for him, is anyone else absolutely furious about so many elected officials being willing to not only back a liar and a crook but the way in which they’re doing so? Comments about Zelensky “punching the air”, blatant gaslighting about getting big decisions right, the usual comments about cake, certain MPs just flat out trolling on Twitter, one MP on the telly last night claiming that by getting a larger percentage last night compared to in the leadership election that he’s increased his mandate and when asked about Theresa Mays VONC result he then said that he’s not in the business for comparing like for like result.
They were reportedly told last night that Johnson would do the same all over again re: the lockdown parties so they know his apology wasn’t genuine. They still backed him.
They’ve declared open war on decency, public standards and the electorate in recent months. I cannot ****ing wait for them to face the ballot box. They’re the lowest of the low.
:faf: Freudian autocorrect.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
He was so viscerally ANGRY while continuing to make ridiculous point after ridiculous point (complaining that the bbc were biased using evidence such as a photo of BJ that made him look like Hannibal Lecter’ when they had used an actual photo of him, not, I dunno, a mocked up BJ in a Russian hat, for example) that if you dislike the Tories you just want to watch more and more of those kind of entitled tantrums.
Why always the ‘lame duck’ metaphor? If a duck was lame couldn’t it just fly and be ok? Wouldn’t a lame frog or mouse be a worse thing?
VONC in the PM will be tabled today in the HOC. whether it will be allowed to be debated is another matter.
Last nights result is great for the U.K. long term as it’s now very likely the Tories will lose the next GE. Short term is a disaster as he is unfit to be an MP never mind the PM
He has a point?
https://twitter.com/BBCPhilipSim/sta...SMXdmCNqQ&s=19
"Obviously when a party is tearing itself apart, the best thing for opponents to do is stand aside (and laugh). But it feels slightly striking at this moment of utter chaos in the UK govt that there apparently isn’t much in the way of an independence campaign seeking to capitalise
Maybe it’s coming…but bearing in mind that indyref2 is meant to be not much more than a year away, you’d think Yes supporters might have been hoping for a bit more urgency in terms of campaign machinery whirring to life than a Nicola Sturgeon tweet about democratic deficits"
He does have a point. The same point that BBC Scotland makes in every report they ever do about the SNP, namely that they're no good.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
There does appear to be a hold up in bringing a bill before the Scottish Parliament. Not sure what is causing it though and so far the Yes movement is showing patience.Quote:
Originally Posted by James310
The ups and downs of Johnson’s govt should be what sets the timetable though.
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This isn't about good or bad government though, this is about the political party. As an aside I rarely see broadcasters running story's about how great a government is and how wonderful they are, unless you live in North Korea or Russia.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
I can hazard a guess, it's outside the competency of the Scottish Parliament.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The legal advice is due to be released in the next week, that will shed some light on it.
What's this got to do with Tories being lying *******s?Quote:
Originally Posted by James310