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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    The usual suspects with the Tory party who would have no chance of progression or keeping their job under a normal leader have been quite vocal but there's not been a ringing endorsement of Johnson since. I have a feeling he might lose this.
    Tory donors urging MP's yo keep him on. The motive for this is unknown other than he is an asset for various vested interests, both in the UK and inbetween Poland and the Urals.

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    The best result would be 180 bang on. Not enough to bin him but enough to show he's only there by a baw hair.

    He'll get shredded every week in the commons and he's lost the public. It'll set them up to lose the election which is the ultimate goal.

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    I wonder if there will be more defections in the coming days if he wins?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    I wonder if there will be more defections in the coming days if he wins?
    I suspect not but if (when?) they get pumped in the 2 by-elections later this month, it will kick off again

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    99 have now come forward saying they will support, he needs 180
    110. just needs 70 out of 250.

    Probably slither out of it

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northernhibee View Post
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    The usual suspects with the Tory party who would have no chance of progression or keeping their job under a normal leader have been quite vocal but there's not been a ringing endorsement of Johnson since. I have a feeling he might lose this.
    Tory politicians and tory voters have one thing that drives them, personal gain. When they vote later today they will not be voting for what's best for the country or even the tory party, they will be voting for what they think is best for themselves. Johnson will scrape through this and will be unceremoniously dumped in the lead up to the next GE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg View Post
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    Tory politicians and tory voters have one thing that drives them, personal gain. When they vote later today they will not be voting for what's best for the country or even the tory party, they will be voting for what they think is best for themselves. Johnson will scrape through this and will be unceremoniously dumped in the lead up to the next GE.
    Tory party donors have to be taken into consideration. Those ones in the Lords, and the KGB.

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    Longer term I think a Johnson win tonight might be no bad outcome.

    The next calamity is only a couple of weeks away at most. Whilst he seems able to shake off a lot of things individually, the cumulative effect is starting to prove troublesome for him. His incompetence, lying and flip flopping is increasingly an electoral liability for the Tories.

    If they replace him with someone who is evil but competent that could still see an election victory against a powder puff opposition. Another couple of **** ups, make the job even more toxic and get some utter buffoon (and there's no shortage of them lining up) in there a few months before an election.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ronaldo7 View Post
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    Tory party donors have to be taken into consideration. Those ones in the Lords, and the KGB.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    110. just needs 70 out of 250.

    Probably slither out of it
    125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190

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    125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190
    Seemingly May had her majority publically declared by lunchtime. I still think he'll squeak through this but it's another big wound. Then he's got the by-elections to lose later this month. Then the Commons inquiry into partygate.

    I get the strategic "keep him around to make sure they lose the GE" position but I'd rather have him gone just so I don't have to see his smug, entitled pus ever again (unless it's torn faced and broken, which it will be permanently once the enormity of his failure sinks in.)

    Also, he's one day short of Gordon Brown's stint in office, so if he gets the boot tonight, he'd be the shortest serving PM since Anthony "Suez" Eden.

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    Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7 View Post
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    125 now. 45 no confidence. Needs 55 out of 190
    Reckon he'll win by about 60/40 - but would expect some of the 125 who have declared support to vote against, such as Liz Truss and others with leadership ambitions

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)
    Obviously knows he is winning then

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    Quote Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby View Post
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    Reckon he'll win by about 60/40 - but would expect some of the 125 who have declared support to vote against, such as Liz Truss and others with leadership ambitions
    Imagine prime minster truss... Jesus

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    Johnson will only leave office when he dies or loses an election.

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)
    I can barely keep up with this guy. There are people out there who think he should be First Minister of Scotland. It’s incredible.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    Johnson will only leave office when he dies or loses an election.
    Or is arrested unlikely as that might be

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Seemingly May had her majority publically declared by lunchtime. I still think he'll squeak through this but it's another big wound. Then he's got the by-elections to lose later this month. Then the Commons inquiry into partygate.

    I get the strategic "keep him around to make sure they lose the GE" position but I'd rather have him gone just so I don't have to see his smug, entitled pus ever again (unless it's torn faced and broken, which it will be permanently once the enormity of his failure sinks in.)

    Also, he's one day short of Gordon Brown's stint in office, so if he gets the boot tonight, he'd be the shortest serving PM since Anthony "Suez" Eden.
    I'm the same. Probably weaker with him but who knows. He deserves the tin pail, never mind the humiliation of defeat

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    If he loses a confidence vote can he just call an election?

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    Steve Baker first to emerge. Says mood in meeting was to forgive and move on. But says he personally will not support Boris, and he should go. Says he expects Boris will win vote but see significant vote against

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    A classic

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    Quote Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens View Post
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    Douglas Ross to vote against (well he was as of 4.45 pm at least.)
    Is that a double uturn?

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    Is that a double uturn?
    We have had against, for, against-until-ukraine-war-over and back to against.

    I think

    Double somersault with twist?
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    Baroness Davidson was reiterating her view this morning that Johnson has to go. I wonder if that's what made up Ross' mind for him? She seems to be very much in the wings, or at least the media treats her as if she is.

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    Douglas Ross is a slimey, spinless waste of space. He wants to be a leader but can't make a decision. Shown himself up for what he is, pathetic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Glory Lurker View Post
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    Baroness Davidson was reiterating her view this morning that Johnson has to go. I wonder if that's what made up Ross' mind for him? She seems to be very much in the wings, or at least the media treats her as if she is.
    She will be wheeled out next year along with Blair as the front for better together mark II

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    Quote Originally Posted by Diclonius View Post
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    If he loses a confidence vote can he just call an election?
    He has a choice, resign or call a GE and let the people decide. James Callaghan lost a Motion of no confidence in '79 and he asked the Queen to dissolve parliament and trigger a GE and we all know how that went! Different rules now but same principle.


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