Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by DH1875

My head is all over the place. Like I said earlier, we have a lot of elderly and vulnerable relatives. My 15 year old daughter asked last night if they could come and stay with us so we can look after them. After much talking and debate I feel like kit having to say no and now my daughter thinks I'm some sort of a monster. God knows what she will think of me if anything happens to any of them.

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Anyone else in a similar situation? Must be a few.

I am a bit loathe to some of these however as reported cases go I check this site:

So with that we have a roughly 4% fatality rate, of course what is key here is the unchecked and untested figures which could be 3 or 4 fold or even higher making of course the % lower however equally you would have to say of the death rates there may well be more not attributed to this that should have been but I would expect the fatality amount to be tighter than the actual infected amount.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

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Originally Posted by Betty Boop

Workplaces stay open ? They are shutting down as we speak. Also the idea that 12 million old people are going to stay in their homes is unrealistic.

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I think you are confusing what COULD happen with what SHOULD happen. There are a number of policy decisions the state could take. Macrons new decree in France (which impels everyone to stay home, not just the old) shows that. People of course can break the law and not self isolate, if so they are putting themselves at risk and the state can't be answerable for that. I'm not sure what your point is about workplaces; in the scenario I've laid out they stay open unless other factors force their closure.

Usually the theatre corridor in the RIE is full of dark humour, very subdued atmosphere today...

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Originally Posted by DH1875

Anyone else in a similar situation? Must be a few.

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From a different perspective I'm basically sitting in the office waiting for my employer to let me know I've been made redundant. Only been here 3 months and my role is non business critical but a fairly high salary for the industry (hospitality sales) and it's a very strange feeling.

If it's any comfort to yourself there will be literally millions of people across the country struggling to come to terms with the last few days and what's to come.

Couple of countries trialing treatments, not cures as yet but treating the most critical patients and some are seeing improvements. Maybe this is me just trying to keep positive but hopefully in the next few weeks drugs already approved might be able to help sick patients and lowers the mortality rate.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

From a different perspective I'm basically sitting in the office waiting for my employer to let me know I've been made redundant. Only been here 3 months and my role is non business critical but a fairly high salary for the industry (hospitality sales) and it's a very strange feeling.

If it's any comfort to yourself there will be literally millions of people across the country struggling to come to terms with the last few days and what's to come.

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Feel your pain mate.

I watched several work colleagues and friends get made redundant yesterday. I've now had my hours cut with a warning worse is to come.

For many the financial impact of this is going to be far more damaging than the illness.

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Originally Posted by Lmc2105

Couple of countries trialing treatments, not cures as yet but treating the most critical patients and some are seeing improvements. Maybe this is me just trying to keep positive but hopefully in the next few weeks drugs already approved might be able to help sick patients and lowers the mortality rate.

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It’s right to try and remain positive

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Feel your pain mate.

I watched several work colleagues and friends get made redundant yesterday. I've now had my hours cut with a warning worse is to come.

For many the financial impact of this is going to be far more damaging than the illness.

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I think you will be right unfortunatley.

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Originally Posted by DH1875

Anyone else in a similar situation? Must be a few.

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Difficult discussion to be having with the kids. Should maybe sit down with her and try to explain that you and other younger, fitter people can carry the virus and potentially infect other people without even knowing it and that having the grandparents in the house with you while your family are still going out to work and school and at risk of exposure is for more dangerous for them than allowing them to self-isolate in their own home away from everything.

I'm still trying to figure out what I should be doing as my work have said there isn't an option for me to work from home and while I don't have any underlying medical conditions I do have a weakened immune system from medication I take so should be avoiding as much social contact as possible which is difficult when I'm working in an open plan office with shared desks etc.

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

It’s right to try and remain positive

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Constantly checking on the progress of some being trialled just hope the UK takes advantage of this if we have the appropriate medicines / drugs available. Four in circulation I can see currently being trailed in Italy, US, Australia and India & China.

Even if we had a drug that could seriously reduce the rate of critical illness or Mortality and not a cure just yet am sure we would all take that.

https://twitter.com/skynews/status/1...683545089?s=21

Amazing drone footage from Italy.


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FCO advice changed to "essential travel only" for the entire world for the next 30 days.

Which should mean that if you had travel insurance for a trip in the next month and got the policy before last Friday, it should be claimable.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

What I would also say re mental health is - there is very little good for your mental health about being isolated and reading bad news and that is all we are able to do right now. Set other targets and achieve them, from reading books you've always wanted to say you've read to being able to do a press up, to learning how to cook with whatever limited ingredients you can lay your hands on.

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In connection to that people might want to check out a site called Udemy, very often they have very indepth courses for around 10 GBP on a lot of different subjects, I've downloaded a couple on web development and blockchain technology.


At the very least it is something productive and takes your mind away from the declarations of apocalypse on Twitter etc.

Our University (Strathclyde) are about to announce that all academic and APS staff will be working from home, in the coming days. For me, that's fine - I accept my priviledge here in that I CAN work from home and continue to be paid but I truly feel for staff in this, and other industries, that don't have that luxury. Never mind global financial recession, this will result in entire industries dying, sectors being decimated and millions upon millions being unemployed and in genuine poverty.

Combine that with panic buying, dwindling resources etc and we're probably staring down the barrel of a significant rise in crime as people try and get a hold of what they need to live.

Genuinely dark and stormy times ahead that will ultimately change the very fabric of life on a global scale.

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Originally Posted by calumhibee1

Hope you and your business can get through this.

I’m not sure how the admins would feel about it, but could there not be a thread started where people can post links to their small businesses websites etc? Even a few customers that they can grab from here could be the difference between them going under or not?

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The admin team think its a great idea. In the current climate anything we can do to help each other has to be encouraged.
Feel free to start a thread. :aok:

https://www.lbc.co.uk/hot-topics/cor...qDCVjTCXW3w0RQ

For those looking for some positives...

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Originally Posted by Sylar

Our University (Strathclyde) are about to announce that all academic and APS staff will be working from home, in the coming days. For me, that's fine - I accept my priviledge here in that I CAN work from home and continue to be paid but I truly feel for staff in this, and other industries, that don't have that luxury. Never mind global financial recession, this will result in entire industries dying, sectors being decimated and millions upon millions being unemployed and in genuine poverty.

Combine that with panic buying, dwindling resources etc and we're probably staring down the barrel of a significant rise in crime as people try and get a hold of what they need to live.

Genuinely dark and stormy times ahead that will ultimately change the very fabric of life on a global scale.

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My eldest daughter goes to Strathclyde and she got an email on Sunday saying the university was locking down and that all lectures were being cancelled. Doing all her course work online now.

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Originally Posted by DH1875

My eldest daughter goes to Strathclyde and she got an email on Sunday saying the university was locking down and that all lectures were being cancelled. Doing all her course work online now.

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My son had the same from Dundee so he came home to work from here yesterday. Apparently he is studying South Park and Come Dine With Me.

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Originally Posted by DH1875

My eldest daughter goes to Strathclyde and she got an email on Sunday saying the university was locking down and that all lectures were being cancelled. Doing all her course work online now.

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All face to face teaching was cancelled on Sunday, but until today, a lot of things were still operational (library open, sports facilities open, cafes etc open).

Yesterday has changed a lot. The Sport facility is now shut, the library opening hours are reduced (not totally shutting down as of right now), all assessments/exams are likely to no longer be in-person, and staff are being encouraged to work away from site where possible. Our Faculty (Business) has been pretty quick to ensure materials are all online, but that's not the case across the board.

Hope your daughter isn't too impacted by it all - the University communication about it all has been less than stellar (for both staff and students!).

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Originally Posted by marinello59

My son had the same from Dundee so he came home to work from here yesterday. Apparently he is studying South Park and Come Dine With Me.

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In his defence daytime Come Dine with Me viewing is an essential part of student life :greengrin

195 cases in Scotland, 2 deaths. That's an increase of 24 cases since yesterday and 1 death.

Has the Scottish government got the power to close schools up here or has that order got to come from down south..

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Originally Posted by murray26

Has the Scottish government got the power to close schools up here or has that order got to come from down south..

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Education is devolved, so I assume the Government have the ability to close them from here?

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Originally Posted by Sylar

Education is devolved, so I assume the Government have the ability to close them from here?

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I thought as much I’m quite surprised we haven’t taken such action so far can’t be to far off.

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Originally Posted by murray26

I thought as much I’m quite surprised we haven’t taken such action so far can’t be to far off.

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I'm surprised both governments haven't, particularly given all the other attempts to limit interactions now.

I would imagine kids generally have more contact and less hygiene than adults, coupled with them being more likely to be asymptomatic it seems strange to send them out for the day and return home.

However sturgeon did say that scotgov and UK gov were working off the same scientific advice and so were unlikely to deviate massively from one another.

How long do people think populations will obey these suppression measures?

When you see the apparent suggestion that 50% of people will have no or only very mild symptoms and then another 30% or so will have a bad case of the mega flu but recover at home OK you have about 80% of the population that in reality can deal with this OK.

You then have the serious cases but again they are largely focussed on elderly and / or those with health conditions.

When then does it come to the point where people will ‘suggest’ that there should be clear advice and support for those groups at highest risk but for the rest we just take it on the chin and carry on?

Also I get everyone and every government wants to avoid huge death numbers but on the flip side you also can’t put huge numbers of businesses under and make huge swathes of your population unemployed and bankrupt at the same time.

Maybe not the time I suppose but it will be interesting to see just how long the public are willing to obey the government’s decisions. Macron for example already having to tighten the rules to force people to do what he asked of them...

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Originally Posted by RyeSloan

How long do people think populations will obey these suppression measures?

When you see the apparent suggestion that 50% of people will have no or only very mild symptoms and then another 30% or so will have a bad case of the mega flu but recover at home OK you have about 80% of the population that in reality can deal with this OK.

You then have the serious cases but again they are largely focussed on elderly and / or those with health conditions.

When then does it come to the point where people will ‘suggest’ that there should be clear advice and support for those groups at highest risk but for the rest we just take it on the chin and carry on?

Also I get everyone and every government wants to avoid huge death numbers but on the flip side you also can’t put huge numbers of businesses under and make huge swathes of your population unemployed and bankrupt at the same time.

Maybe not the time I suppose but it will be interesting to see just how long the public are willing to obey the government’s decisions. Macron for example already having to tighten the rules to force people to do what he asked of them...

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If people are happy to take the risk of losing their nearest and dearest who are elderly/otherwise vulnerable. Are you?

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Originally Posted by murray26

I thought as much I’m quite surprised we haven’t taken such action so far can’t be to far off.

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People are deciding for themselves. Teachers reporting attendance at 50% while the teachers and staff themselves are fearing exposure.

Considering the social distancing advice for everyone else it seems crazy to try and keep the schools open now.

Chief scientific dude saying 20000 uk deaths or below would be a result!!!!!!