Coronavirus

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Originally Posted by HibsGW

If it’s not safe to meet outside, it’s not safe to meet anywhere. That’s what was being implied. That’s why it got the reaction it got. Its never “safe” to meet anywhere pre covid either, there’s always some element of risk to leaving your bed.

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Stay in your bed too long and you risk a blood clot. We’ll never be safe again I tell you.

That bed of mine is going in the bin. Nothing but danger.

Daily Scottish update;

1,386 new cases since yesterday - 6.3% positivity rate
Decrease of 8 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 13 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,022,914 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,202 people since yesterday
3,305,325 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 19,172 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

Breakdown of today's cases by council area;

North Lanarkshire - 149
Glasgow - 149
South Lanarkshire - 136
Edinburgh - 134
Fife - 110
Highland - 89
Aberdeen - 45
West Lothian - 41
Aberdeenshire - 41
North Ayrshire - 37
West Dunbartonshire - 35
Dumfries and Galloway - 33
Renfrewshire - 32
East Lothian - 31
East Dunbartonshire - 27
Midlothian - 26
Falkirk - 26
Dundee - 26
Argyll and Bute - 26
Perth and Kinross - 25
Scottish Borders - 24
East Ayrshire - 23
Stirling - 20
East Renfrewshire - 20
Inverclyde - 18
South Ayrshire - 17
Angus - 17
Moray - 10
Clackmannanshire - 5
Orkney - 3
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 3
Shetland - 1

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Daily Scottish update;

1,386 new cases since yesterday - 6.3% positivity rate
Decrease of 8 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 13 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,022,914 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,202 people since yesterday
3,305,325 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 19,172 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

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That's a big decrease in ICU numbers, without seeing much difference in actual cases. Further indication that the vaccines are stopping serious illness, surely.

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Originally Posted by SideBurns

That's a big decrease in ICU numbers, without seeing much difference in actual cases. Further indication that the vaccines are stopping serious illness, surely.

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9 people died so that probably accounts for the majority of the decrease.

28,612 cases and 103 deaths registered in the UK today.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Daily Scottish update;

1,386 new cases since yesterday - 6.3% positivity rate
Decrease of 8 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 13 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,022,914 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,202 people since yesterday
3,305,325 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 19,172 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

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Case numbers fell to 1000 last week only to bounce back up again to an 1200-1400 over the last few days. Similarly positivity of tests fell below 5% and has now moved up to 6%.
The effect of schools going back and things opening up from Monday will be an interesting watch.

However, this wave appears to be reaching it's end with hospital numbers and now intensive care numbers finally dropping significantly. Just the daily deaths to drop to bookend the wave.

Vaccination numbers appear to be rising again after being below 20,000 for a long time.
Hopefully that continues and the inevitable next wave will cause far less hospital cases than this wave which has been far less destructive than the previous one.

All very positive at the moment despite the naivety and selfishness of many folk.

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Originally Posted by lord bunberry

9 people died so that probably accounts for the majority of the decrease.

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Yes whilst that's most probably true, 9 (and more) people have died on previous days without that kind of reduction in ICU so the fact these people aren't being replaced by others going into ICU is definitely a huge positive.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Daily update - first dose;

UK - 46,961,830 (89.6% of adult population)

Wales - 2,300,137 (92% of adult population)
England - 39,416,306 (89.6% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,020,712 (89.3% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,224,675 (84.5% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,047,529 (74.5% of adult population)

Wales - 2,099,624 (84% of adult population)
England - 32,588,410 (74.1% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,073,342 (74% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,286,153 (73% of adult population)

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Daily update - first dose;

UK - 46,997,495 (89.7% of adult population)

Wales - 2,300,137 (92% of adult population)
England - 39,443,338 (89.6% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,022,914 (89.4% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,231,106 (84.9% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,210,356 (74.8% of adult population)

Wales - 2,099,624 (84% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,079,825 (74.5% of adult population)
England - 32,725,582 (74.4% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,305,325 (73.5% of adult population)

** Wales no longer release any data on a Saturday. **

Received my second dose today - 3 hours on and so far so good, no symptoms.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Received my second dose today - 3 hours on and so far so good, no symptoms.

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My mate got his 2nd dose on Thursday and has been pretty rubbish since then.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

My mate got his 2nd dose on Thursday and has been pretty rubbish since then.

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I had mine on Tuesday evening.

Felt ***** from about midday on the Wednesday, really achey, tired and feverish. Completely disappeared by Thursday evening and went as suddenly as it came.

Wasn't pleasant but nothing a few paracetemol couldn't handle.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

My mate got his 2nd dose on Thursday and has been pretty rubbish since then.

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Still nothing for me so far, hopefully stays that way.

Physical distancing will remain in healthcare settings, despite Scotland's move beyond level zero on Monday.

Scotland's health secretary has confirmed that hospitals, doctors' surgeries and dentists will keep the 2m rule after the majority of coronavirus restrictions are eased.

Humza Yousaf said the situation would be reviewed at an unspecified time in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58130484

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Physical distancing will remain in healthcare settings, despite Scotland's move beyond level zero on Monday.

Scotland's health secretary has confirmed that hospitals, doctors' surgeries and dentists will keep the 2m rule after the majority of coronavirus restrictions are eased.

Humza Yousaf said the situation would be reviewed at an unspecified time in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58130484

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I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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Agreed. We know hospital transmission has been happening, and given the vulnerable are more likely to be in hospital, and still have a higher chance of dying even if vaccinated, this seems like a very sensible approach.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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Correct, my uncle went into hospital at the end of January with an infection in his pancreas, tested positive for covid the night before he was due to be released and never made it back home.

I am immunocompromised and i have to go to hospital for a check up next week,now i am not so sure after reading some comments.

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Originally Posted by H18S NX

I am immunocompromised and i have to go to hospital for a check up next week,now i am not so sure after reading some comments.

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I understand your anxiety as I would have the same concerns. Jason Leitch said a wee while back patients who pick up a hospital acquired infection are predominantly in-patients on wards. I have family who have attended clinic appointments and they all say the clinics were operating with good safety measures. I hope that reassures you.

Just to add A&E Depts are not the same as out patient departments, they can't control the flow of patients in the same way as they do in clinics with spaced out scheduled appointments and socially distanced waiting areas.

Anybody know which drop-in centres are doing vaccinations for 16/17 year olds today? I'm aware the Pyramids at Bathgate is but was looking for one in Edinburgh.

https://www.gov.scot/news/vaccines-for-16-17-year-olds/

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Originally Posted by Rocky

Anybody know which drop-in centres are doing vaccinations for 16/17 year olds today? I'm aware the Pyramids at Bathgate is but was looking for one in Edinburgh.

https://www.gov.scot/news/vaccines-for-16-17-year-olds/

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The gyle shopping centre? No mention of 16-17 but targeting young adults.

https://news.nhslothian.scot/Pages/20210726_NewvaccinationpopupclinicinGyleShoppingCe ntre.aspx

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

https://www.mirror.co.uk/sport/footb...mpression=true

Warnock hits out as most of his players are unvaccinated. Asks football fans to get on websites and demand players are vaccinated, since from September all fans will need to be vaccinated to go to the game. I'll be pissed off if a player is out the hearts game due to covid who isn't vaccinated

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While we will have to be vaccinated to watch football concerts and other big sporting events the people you will go to see won’t be vaccinated but will be relying on negative tests, a f***ing joke that fans will be paying the wages to watch unvaccinated elite people.

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Originally Posted by bringbackbenny

The gyle shopping centre? No mention of 16-17 but targeting young adults.

https://news.nhslothian.scot/Pages/20210726_NewvaccinationpopupclinicinGyleShoppingCe ntre.aspx

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Cheers I'll give it a try.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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I got taken in to A&E last Friday night by ambulance, the place was heaving and there was a queue for the ambulances, mine was 10th, was taken straight through to one of pods and was just left on a trolley for a few hours, mask wearing by patients was non existent, I had a lady sit in a chair opposite me who looked worse for wear, pissed, she was not being very nice with staff, a teacher at a university, who tells the doctor that her and partner decided to go a cycle and she fell while obviously drunk, she had fractured her shoulder and wasn’t happy to hear that news, the doctor was just repeating the same thing over and over and she just slavered nonsense about who would pay for a hotel, wtf, no mask on and letting her stupid concerns be known, if covid was lurking it would have had plenty opportunities to spread about, was glad to get out on Monday as the Royal doesn’t look the safest place to be, in fact the doctor said that to me, your better at home than being in here.

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Originally Posted by H18S NX

I am immunocompromised and i have to go to hospital for a check up next week,now i am not so sure after reading some comments.

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I was in the Royal over the weekend make sure you have a mask on at all times and wash hands, not everyone is complying, and yet was at St. John’s last week and as soon as you walk in you are asked to sanatize and wear a mask and was all good up at ward I went to.

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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

Correct, my uncle went into hospital at the end of January with an infection in his pancreas, tested positive for covid the night before he was due to be released and never made it back home.

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I’d agree, my mums friend had a fall in the house and went in for X-ray etc, got kept in and tested positive on the day she was meant to come home, never made it home in the end.

https://twitter.com/thescotsman/stat...298907137?s=21

Masks to end of February 2022 and possible winter lockdown.

Daily Scottish update;

1,240 new cases since yesterday - 6.0% positivity rate
Increase of 1 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 1 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,024,852 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 1,938 people since yesterday
3,323,466 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 18,141 people since yesterday
No deaths registered since yesterday

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

https://twitter.com/thescotsman/stat...298907137?s=21

Masks to end of February 2022 and possible winter lockdown.

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Personally think a winter lockdown of some description is inevitable. Whether it will look exactly like the previous lockdowns is inevitable but I do think some restrictions will be imposed.

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

https://twitter.com/thescotsman/stat...298907137?s=21

Masks to end of February 2022 and possible winter lockdown.

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To be fair to humza its clickbait at usual from the scotsman, as he says he's hopeful there won't be one but you never know.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

While we will have to be vaccinated to watch football concerts and other big sporting events the people you will go to see won’t be vaccinated but will be relying on negative tests, a f***ing joke that fans will be paying the wages to watch unvaccinated elite people.

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It shouldn't matter whether or not someone is vaccinated if they test negative. I'd argue providing a negative test is better than being vaccinated

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Originally Posted by SChibs

It shouldn't matter whether or not someone is vaccinated if they test negative. I'd argue providing a negative test is better than being vaccinated

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Someone can test negative when just had the virus but it's not built up enough they then go to the event able to spread

People who have the vaccine are much less likely to spread the virus than unvaccinated.

Muge Cevik
@mugecevik

Even if viral load may be the same, vaccinated people who become infected are less likely to be infectious than unvaccinated bc vaccines reduce virus shedding time, symptomatic infection, and the presence of immune response will suppress the viable virus.

RNA detection in a vaccinated person may not be viable virus. For instance, these breakthrough infections despite having low ct did not transmit to others.

27,429 cases and 39 deaths registered in the UK today.

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Originally Posted by Santa Cruz

I understand your anxiety as I would have the same concerns. Jason Leitch said a wee while back patients who pick up a hospital acquired infection are predominantly in-patients on wards. I have family who have attended clinic appointments and they all say the clinics were operating with good safety measures. I hope that reassures you.

Just to add A&E Depts are not the same as out patient departments, they can't control the flow of patients in the same way as they do in clinics with spaced out scheduled appointments and socially distanced waiting areas.

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...Thank you SC,as it is a clinical appointment i should be ok.

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Originally Posted by silverhibee

I was in the Royal over the weekend make sure you have a mask on at all times and wash hands, not everyone is complying, and yet was at St. John’s last week and as soon as you walk in you are asked to sanatize and wear a mask and was all good up at ward I went to.

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..Thanks SH.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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Please tell that to patients in doctors surgeries who can’t understand the need for physically distancing so we still need to do telephone appointments (at first). The amount of abuse and questioning us staff get is getting worse 😩😢

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Originally Posted by oconnors_strip

Please tell that to patients in doctors surgeries who can’t understand the need for physically distancing so we still need to do telephone appointments (at first). The amount of abuse and questioning us staff get is getting worse 😩😢

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I was really meaning hospital and care homes but get what you are saying. Even telephone consultation is a 2 week wait here.

Here is a question. Shops from tomorrow no social distancing but masks required. See these plastic screens at counters, are they still a thing or are they done away with?

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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Had a throat biopsy in December last year and was worried I was gonna catch covid. I agree with the decision of keeping some of the measures in NHS services for the time being. :aok:

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Here is a question. Shops from tomorrow no social distancing but masks required. See these plastic screens at counters, are they still a thing or are they done away with?

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For what it's worth, every business that I've been into here that had plastic screens still has them in place. I'm guessing they'll be around awhile, while ever there's a reasonable possibility of restrictions being re-introduced.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

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As long as it doesn't delay the return to regular appointments at dentist surgeries then I'm fine with that for the time being.

Scotland's health secretary has warned that coronavirus cases will rise as a result of Monday's easing of restrictions.

Humza Yousaf said people should remember the pandemic "is not over".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58136278

Breakdown of today's cases by council area;

Glasgow - 139
Fife - 104
South Lanarkshire - 103
North Lanarkshire - 100
Edinburgh - 92
East Lothian - 68
Highland - 52
Aberdeenshire - 51
North Ayrshire - 48
Aberdeen - 46
West Lothian - 41
Renfrewshire - 36
Falkirk - 32
East Ayrshire - 31
Stirling - 28
West Dunbartonshire - 27
Perth and Kinross - 26
Scottish Borders - 23
Dumfries and Galloway - 23
South Ayrshire - 22
Dundee - 21
East Renfrewshire - 20
Midlothian - 17
Inverclyde - 17
Argyll and Bute - 16
East Dunbartonshire - 15
Angus - 14
Moray - 13
Clackmannanshire - 8
Shetland - 1
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 1

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Daily update - first dose;

UK - 46,997,495 (89.7% of adult population)

Wales - 2,300,137 (92% of adult population)
England - 39,443,338 (89.6% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,022,914 (89.4% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,231,106 (84.9% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,210,356 (74.8% of adult population)

Wales - 2,099,624 (84% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,079,825 (74.5% of adult population)
England - 32,725,582 (74.4% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,305,325 (73.5% of adult population)

** Wales no longer release any data on a Saturday. **

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Daily update - first dose;

UK - 47,036,796 (89.8% of adult population)

Wales - 2,302,997 (92.1% of adult population)
England - 39,476,497 (89.7% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,024,852 (89.4% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,232,450 (85% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,429,468 (75.2% of adult population)

Wales - 2,111,288 (84.5% of adult population)
England - 32,910,451 (74.8% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,084,263 (74.8% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,323,466 (73.9% of adult population)

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

As long as it doesn't delay the return to regular appointments at dentist surgeries then I'm fine with that for the time being.

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I've had 3 regular NHS appointments in the past 6 months or so.

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

I've had 3 regular NHS appointments in the past 6 months or so.

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Nothing at all at mine - I've never missed a 6 monthly check up/hygienist polish for years and my last one was in February 2020.

Only recently the dentist himself could not offer a timescale on when the surgery was likely to be able to offer routine appointments again.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Nothing at all at mine - I've never missed a 6 monthly check up/hygienist polish for years and my last one was in February 2020.

Only recently the dentist himself could not offer a timescale on when the surgery was likely to be able to offer routine appointments again.

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My dentists practice can only see 10 patients a day between them and the hygienist still cant work so they are doing emergencies only. I'm desperate for a scale and polish! We havent been since end of 2019 other than I had an emergency tooth extraction last summer which was a bit stressful.

They update us regularly. Last piece of information was that they were looking at extra ventilation to see if they would be allowed to open up more

On 27th of May 45% 15-24yo's of had caught covid and recovered

Now mcr estimate last week 71% and 3.5 in one week

It's ripping through them at some pace unfortunately

Did the hospitality guidance ever get published/clarified?

It looks like masks still have to be worn anywhere with general public access - including pubs, nightclubs, etc.

Are you allowed to walk in and stand in a pub again, or is that still off limits?

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Originally Posted by danhibees1875

Did the hospitality guidance ever get published/clarified?

It looks like masks still have to be worn anywhere with general public access - including pubs, nightclubs, etc.

Are you allowed to walk in and stand in a pub again, or is that still off limits?

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This should hopefully give some help.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...uestions-faqs/

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

This should hopefully give some help.

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...uestions-faqs/

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Thanks. :aok:

Be interesting to see it in action...

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Originally Posted by danhibees1875

Did the hospitality guidance ever get published/clarified?

It looks like masks still have to be worn anywhere with general public access - including pubs, nightclubs, etc.

Are you allowed to walk in and stand in a pub again, or is that still off limits?

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Yes you can stand in a pub and drink is the straightforward answer. The SG have some ridiculous guidance along the lines of you can stand and drink but are supposed to put your mask back on and then off every single time in-between drinks which in reality will never happen.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Yes you can stand in a pub and drink is the straightforward answer. The SG have some ridiculous guidance along the lines of you can stand and drink but are supposed to put your mask back on in-between drinks which in reality will never happen

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I was in Bennets and the Blue Blazer on Friday night and both told me that there would still be no "vertical drinking" from today.

EDIT - I've just seen a post on facebook from the Cask and Barrel Southside and they will have people standing!

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Originally Posted by Mikey

I was in Bennets and the Blue Blazer on Friday night and both told me that there would still be no "vertical drinking" from today.

EDIT - I've just seen a post on facebook from the Cask and Barrel Southside and they will have people standing!

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I was in a few pubs over the weekend and all of them planned to allow people to stand and drink from today.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Yes you can stand in a pub and drink is the straightforward answer. The SG have some ridiculous guidance along the lines of you can stand and drink but are supposed to put your mask back on and then off every single time in-between drinks which in reality will never happen.

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I thought it was ambitious enough to expect someone to pop it on when they turn around to get served after standing in their group without one, or presumably if you're the first in the group to finish their drink...

I'm not sure if what you've written is technically true or not - but agreed it isn't going to happen!

I read today an article in Spanish which says that a drug has passed through phase 2 of clinical trials and has achieved a 93% cure rate for severe Covid with patients being discharged in 5 days. The Sourasky Centre in Tel Aviv has developed this drug called EXO-CD24 that is based on a naturally occurring cell membrane protein CD24. Crucially it regulates the mechanism that produces the cytokine storm that causes so much damage to the body. Just over 90 patients were in the study, so a small number. The study was initially started in Israel but finished in Greece because of the success of the vaccine programme in Israel. No patient had significant side effects. Patients are being recruited for the final phase 3 study.

Obviously it is early days but a very promising treatment. Studies due to be finished by the end of the year.

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Originally Posted by goosano

I read today an article in Spanish which says that a drug has passed through phase 2 of clinical trials and has achieved a 93% cure rate for severe Covid with patients being discharged in 5 days. The Sourasky Centre in Tel Aviv has developed this drug called EXO-CD24 that is based on a naturally occurring cell membrane protein CD24. Crucially it regulates the mechanism that produces the cytokine storm that causes so much damage to the body. Just over 90 patients were in the study, so a small number. The study was initially started in Israel but finished in Greece because of the success of the vaccine programme in Israel. No patient had significant side effects. Patients are being recruited for the final phase 3 study.

Obviously it is early days but a very promising treatment. Studies due to be finished by the end of the year.

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Article in English:

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...-5-days-675961

It seems this was just a phase 1 safety trial, they are moving ahead with phase 2 though. Fingers crossed.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Yes you can stand in a pub and drink is the straightforward answer. The SG have some ridiculous guidance along the lines of you can stand and drink but are supposed to put your mask back on and then off every single time in-between drinks which in reality will never happen.

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Also interesting to note that being in a nightclub's being classed as a form of exercise.

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Also interesting to note that being in a nightclub's being classed as a form of exercise.

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Surely not?

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

Also interesting to note that being in a nightclub's being classed as a form of exercise.

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What? :faf:

Please tell me it’s cause people dance

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Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens

Article in English:

https://www.jpost.com/health-science...-5-days-675961

It seems this was just a phase 1 safety trial, they are moving ahead with phase 2 though. Fingers crossed.

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Your article confirms phase 2 is complete and that they are moving to phase 3.

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Originally Posted by goosano

Your article confirms phase 2 is complete and that they are moving to phase 3.

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So it does, sorry, my mistake. Didn't read this carefully enough.

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“As promising as the findings of the first phases of a treatment can be, no one can be sure of anything until results are compared to the ones of patients who receive a placebo,” he said.

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Originally Posted by Since90+2

Surely not?

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What? :faf:

Please tell me it’s cause people dance

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It's in the link I provided earlier for the FAQs, under the question of "Does a customer have to wear a face covering in a nightclub?"

"The regulations also provide an exemption for exercise which would include dancing."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...uestions-faqs/

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

It's in the link I provided earlier for the FAQs, under the question of "Does a customer have to wear a face covering in a nightclub?"

"The regulations also provide an exemption for exercise which would include dancing."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...uestions-faqs/

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I know Scottish people don't have a reputation for healthy living but our own Government now defining going to a nightclub as excercise just takes things to a new level.

Covid restrictions in Scotland have been lifted at the "right moment", according to the first minister.


Nicola Sturgeon admitted to feeling "nervousness" at the move, but said the vaccine was now giving "significant protection".

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58136277

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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray

It's in the link I provided earlier for the FAQs, under the question of "Does a customer have to wear a face covering in a nightclub?"

"The regulations also provide an exemption for exercise which would include dancing."

https://www.gov.scot/publications/co...uestions-faqs/

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Q: Does a customer need to wear a face covering when playing pool or darts?
A: Yes, a face covering should be worn when engaging in activities such as pool or darts.

What? :faf:

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Originally Posted by SteveHFC

Q: Does a customer need to wear a face covering when playing pool or darts?
A: Yes, a face covering should be worn when engaging in activities such as pool or darts.

What? :faf:

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Q: Does a face covering need to be worn when singing at a karaoke?
A: No. There is an exemption for performers. Performers must however maintain distance of at least 1 metre from others or a partition between performers and the audience should be installed.

I thought physical distancing requirements had now been removed, with the exception of some health settings?

On another note it's good to see dominoes are allowed to be played again!

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I know Scottish people don't have a reputation for healthy living but our own Government now defining going to a nightclub as excercise just takes things to a new level.

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But they're not, are they? Aren't they defining dancing as exercise? Wouldn't you? :dunno:

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But they're not, are they? Aren't they defining dancing as exercise? Wouldn't you? :dunno:

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Whilst reaking in a dark nightclub in between ordering more bevvy? Not sure I'd consider that excercise but each to their own.

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Whilst reaking in a dark nightclub in between ordering more bevvy? Not sure I'd consider that excercise but each to their own.

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Exercise in the dark
Exercise while reeking

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Q: Does a face covering need to be worn when singing at a karaoke?
A: No. There is an exemption for performers. Performers must however maintain distance of at least 1 metre from others or a partition between performers and the audience should be installed.

I thought physical distancing requirements had now been removed, with the exception of some health settings?

On another note it's good to see dominoes are allowed to be played again!

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LOL

**** me. These rules are all over the shop now.

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**** me. These rules are all over the shop now.

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Yip.

Daily Scottish update;

851 new cases since yesterday - 6.7% positivity rate
Decrease of 4 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Increase of 2 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,026,827 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 1,975 people since yesterday
3,342,056 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 18,590 people since yesterday
No deaths registered since yesterday

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Daily Scottish update;

851 new cases since yesterday - 6.7% positivity rate
Decrease of 4 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Increase of 2 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,026,827 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 1,975 people since yesterday
3,342,056 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 18,590 people since yesterday
No deaths registered since yesterday

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Wow that's excellent. I know Monday is usually lower but great news.

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Wow that's excellent. I know Monday is usually lower but great news.

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Up (slightly) on last Monday.

25,161 cases and 37 deaths registered in the UK today.

Just heard from a mate, they've just been tested positive and had to cancel their trip to Spain to finally meet up with family.

Apparently while working last week the guy he was working with started to sniff, sniff, then later had the odd cough. Craig asked him if he was alright, guy responded "aye, I'll just work through it "

Later on he realised the guy had been in ibiza recently, when he asked... got home on Sunday/Monday and straight to work on Tuesday... no self isolation, and not even vaccinated at all yet.

What chance have we got, Craig's raging, self employed so loosing a wee bit cash but totally livid about his family... he's pretty rough just now, saying its like the worst cold/man flu he's had in years, luckily he's double jagged.

Can't believe folks can be so selfish and totally ignoring how their actions impact on others.

Just got pulled up in my local for not doing test and protect. Not got a problem with it but is this still a rule? They’re still taking orders at the table instead of going to the bar, although I think that it’s the chain that’s decided that.

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Just heard from a mate, they've just been tested positive and had to cancel their trip to Spain to finally meet up with family.

Apparently while working last week the guy he was working with started to sniff, sniff, then later had the odd cough. Craig asked him if he was alright, guy responded "aye, I'll just work through it "

Later on he realised the guy had been in ibiza recently, when he asked... got home on Sunday/Monday and straight to work on Tuesday... no self isolation, and not even vaccinated at all yet.

What chance have we got, Craig's raging, self employed so loosing a wee bit cash but totally livid about his family... he's pretty rough just now, saying its like the worst cold/man flu he's had in years, luckily he's double jagged.

Can't believe folks can be so selfish and totally ignoring how their actions impact on others.

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That’s ****ing brutal likes, I’d be having a quiet word in a quiet place with the ****

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Just got pulled up in my local for not doing test and protect. Not got a problem with it but is this still a rule? They’re still taking orders at the table instead of going to the bar, although I think that it’s the chain that’s decided that.

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Yep, pubs still have to take your details at the moment

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Just got pulled up in my local for not doing test and protect. Not got a problem with it but is this still a rule? They’re still taking orders at the table instead of going to the bar, although I think that it’s the chain that’s decided that.

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Still have to use test and protect mate when going into hospitality. :aok:

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Still have to use test and protect mate when going into hospitality. :aok:

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Absolutely no change in the local then haha

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Absolutely no change in the local then haha

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Only change in my local is I have to get off my butt and go get my beer.... they're not allowing 'vertical drinking ' at the bar to help protect the bar staff.

Happy Freedom Day!

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Only change in my local is I have to get off my butt and go get my beer.... they're not allowing 'vertical drinking ' at the bar to help protect the bar staff.

Happy Freedom Day!

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Ken, eh. I work in the rie so no change at all for me 🤣🤣

Sturgeon on STV news saying children have to wear masks because they are no vaccinated and can't rule out any future restrictions.

I don't have any issue with Sturgeon etc saying they can't rule out future restrictions. It's preferable to categorically ruling them out and then having to backtrack.

No one can predict the future and it would be foolish in the extreme to declare that there will never be a reintroduction of more impactful restrictions.

Breakdown of today's cases by council area;

Edinburgh - 102
Glasgow - 91
Fife - 87
North Lanarkshire - 61
South Lanarkshire - 60
Dumfries and Galloway - 48
Highland - 37
East Lothian - 35
Aberdeenshire - 31
North Ayrshire - 27
Renfrewshire - 21
East Renfrewshire - 21
Scottish Borders - 20
Falkirk - 20
Aberdeen - 20
Midlothian - 19
Inverclyde - 19
West Lothian - 17
Dundee - 16
South Ayrshire - 14
East Ayrshire - 13
East Dunbartonshire - 12
Perth and Kinross - 10
Argyll and Bute - 10
Angus - 9
Moray - 7
West Dunbartonshire - 6
Shetland - 4
Clackmannanshire - 4
Stirling - 3
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 2
Orkney - 1

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Rate of cases per 100,000 people in the 7 days up to 30th July;

Inverclyde - 224.5
West Dunbartonshire - 216.2
South Lanarkshire - 207.6
North Lanarkshire - 194.1
West Lothian - 185.0
North Ayrshire - 174.3
Glasgow - 169.9
Clackmannanshire - 156.0
Dundee - 153.9
East Lothian - 153.8
Midlothian - 152.4
Stirling - 152.0
Fife - 151.8
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 150.9
Dumfries and Galloway - 142.3
South Ayrshire - 141.8
Aberdeen - 141.0
Renfrewshire - 138.2
Edinburgh - 138.0
East Dunbartonshire - 133.3
East Ayrshire - 124.2
East Renfrewshire - 122.8
Falkirk - 114.6
Scottish Borders - 108.5
Angus - 107.9
Argyll and Bute - 105.3
Highland - 100.2
Perth and Kinross - 96.1
Aberdeenshire - 92.0
Moray - 87.8
Shetland - 74.3
Orkney - 8.9

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Rate of cases per 100,000 people in the 7 days up to 6th August;

North Lanarkshire - 214.6
South Lanarkshire - 212.0
North Ayrshire - 209.3
East Lothian - 205.7
West Dunbartonshire - 198.1
Fife - 177.2
Midlothian - 175.0
Dumfries and Galloway - 165.2
West Lothian - 161.6
Glasgow - 147.4
Inverclyde - 146.6
Edinburgh - 146.5
East Ayrshire - 146.4
East Renfrewshire - 142.6
Scottish Borders - 139.7
Renfrewshire - 137.7
Highland - 134.2
Stirling - 132.9
South Ayrshire - 129.3
East Dunbartonshire - 127.8
Dundee - 124.3
Aberdeen - 120.1
Aberdeenshire - 112.4
Argyll and Bute - 108.9
Falkirk - 105.9
Perth and Kinross - 94.8
Clackmannanshire - 83.8
Moray - 83.6
Angus - 82.9
Shetland - 61.2
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 56.6
Orkney - 35.7

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Hospital patients

NHS Ayrshire and Arran - 24 (+6 since last Monday)

NHS Borders - Less than 5 (- at least 2 since last Monday)

NHS Dumfries and Galloway - 10 (-1 since last Monday)

NHS Fife - 32 (-7 since last Monday)

NHS Forth Valley - 31 (-12 since last Monday)

NHS Grampian - 38 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 99 (-11 since last Monday)

NHS Highland - 12 (-10 since last Monday)

NHS Lanarkshire - 60 (-17 since last Monday)

NHS Lothian - 71 (-7 since last Monday)

NHS Orkney - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Shetland - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Tayside - 21 (-10 since last Monday)

NHS Western Isles - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

ICU patients

NHS Ayrshire and Arran - 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Borders - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Dumfries and Galloway - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Fife - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Forth Valley - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Grampian - 7 (+1 since last Monday)

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 9 (-5 since last Monday)

NHS Highland - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Lanarkshire - 6 (-2 since last Monday)

NHS Lothian - 16 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Orkney - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Shetland - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Tayside - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Western Isles - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

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Hospital patients

NHS Ayrshire and Arran - 14 (-10 since last Monday)

NHS Borders - 5 (+ at least 1 since last Monday)

NHS Dumfries and Galloway - 9 (-1 since last Monday)

NHS Fife - 26 (-6 since last Monday)

NHS Forth Valley - 27 (-4 since last Monday)

NHS Grampian - 37 (-1 since last Monday)

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 98 (-1 since last Monday)

NHS Highland - 8 (-4 since last Monday)

NHS Lanarkshire - 51 (-9 since last Monday)

NHS Lothian - 65 (-6 since last Monday)

NHS Orkney - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Shetland - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Tayside - 13 (-8 since last Monday)

NHS Western Isles - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

ICU patients

NHS Ayrshire and Arran - Less than 5 (- at least 1 since last Monday)

NHS Borders - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Dumfries and Galloway - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Fife - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Forth Valley - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Grampian - 5 (-2 since last Monday)

NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde - 8 (-1 since last Monday)

NHS Highland - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Lanarkshire - 5 (-1 since last Monday)

NHS Lothian - 8 (-8 since last Monday)

NHS Orkney - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Shetland - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Tayside - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

NHS Western Isles - Less than 5 (No change since last Monday)

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Daily update - first dose;

UK - 47,036,796 (89.8% of adult population)

Wales - 2,302,997 (92.1% of adult population)
England - 39,476,497 (89.7% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,024,852 (89.4% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,232,450 (85% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,429,468 (75.2% of adult population)

Wales - 2,111,288 (84.5% of adult population)
England - 32,910,451 (74.8% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,084,263 (74.8% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,323,466 (73.9% of adult population)

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Daily update - first dose;

UK - 47,059,639 (89.8% of adult population)

Wales - 2,304,271 (92.2% of adult population)
England - 39,495,104 (89.8% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,026,827 (89.5% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,233,437 (85.1% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,551,538 (75.5% of adult population)

Wales - 2,115,477 (84.6% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,089,222 (75.1% of adult population)
England - 33,004,783 (75% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,342,056 (74.3% of adult population)

Was watching CNN and some of the American States have more cases per 100000 than Mexico. Mexico on red list so why is US not on red list. Also there are anti vaxers in the US with some states at less than 50 uptake of vaccinations.

Florida is a state with a major problem and I am sure there are many Brits on holiday there. They will not have to isolate in a hotel when they come home you do if you Come back from Mexico. 🤔

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Was watching CNN and some of the American States have more cases per 100000 than Mexico. Mexico on red list so why is US not on red list. Also there are anti vaxers in the US with some states at less than 50 uptake of vaccinations.

Florida is a state with a major problem and I am sure there are many Brits on holiday there. They will not have to isolate in a hotel when they come home you do if you Come back from Mexico. 🤔

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Doubt there will be many Brits on holiday in Florida as you cannot enter the USA if you have been in the UK within the last 14 days. Haven't been able to since March 2020.

Unless you have a green card or a duel citizen.

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Was watching CNN and some of the American States have more cases per 100000 than Mexico. Mexico on red list so why is US not on red list. Also there are anti vaxers in the US with some states at less than 50 uptake of vaccinations.

Florida is a state with a major problem and I am sure there are many Brits on holiday there. They will not have to isolate in a hotel when they come home you do if you Come back from Mexico. 🤔

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There’ll be next to no Brits in the US, they’re not allowing us in.

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There’ll be next to no Brits in the US, they’re not allowing us in.

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Was not aware of that. Just thought the was a bit of an anomaly there.

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Was not aware of that. Just thought the was a bit of an anomaly there.

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It still is since we are allowing them to come here for a holiday but they won’t let us go there!

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Was not aware of that. Just thought the was a bit of an anomaly there.

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We would let folk in from Florida to be fair!

Although Americans don’t tend to travel abroad like most other nationalities so they’ll probably keep themselves to themselves largely.

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We would let folk in from Florida to be fair!

Although Americans don’t tend to travel abroad like most other nationalities so they’ll probably keep themselves to themselves largely.

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You are correct that they don't travel as much as Brits for example, by percentage of population, but there are still millions of Americans who would typically visit the UK in a normal year.

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You are correct that they don't travel as much as Brits for example, by percentage of population, but there are still millions of Americans who would typically visit the UK in a normal year.

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That’s true. I somehow forgot there’s millions of them :greengrin

Red list is more about variants, the US is pretty much all delta, hence India coming of red as its all delta. US has good genomic sequencing where as Mexico has none.

2nd dose yesterday. Felt fine bar the usual heavy arm when I hit the hay last night. Woke up maybe less than an hour later feeling dodgy, then again a few hours later feeling like I had the flu.

Already a fair bit better now so hopefully that’s the end of it. And the short burst of feeling a bit minging is definitely outweighed and then some by the satisfaction of now being double vaxed.