Coronavirus

[Hibbyradge]

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Yes. Starting off a post with what looks like it might be a genuine, interesting, question, and readers following it right through to the end of the paragraph only to discover it was rhetorical all along.

[Moulin Yarns]

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Is there anything that dilutes a point more than totally misrepresenting what others have said or twisting a generally agreed consensus to try to prove a point?

'People keep saying you can't catch covid outdoors.' No, they don't. There is however a generally agreed view, with data to back it up, that the risk of transmission is substantially reduced outdoors.

'People just want to live in fear forever.' No, they don't. Some people are just a bit more cautious than others as we exit restrictions and it is entirely their right to be so. Equally a short, sharp return to total normality isn't learning to live with covid.

The voice of reason? It'll never catch on. 😉

[HibsGW]

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That post is exactly the sort of exaggeration of which you're wrongly accusing others.

It really isn’t. The implication that being outdoors is unsafe suggests we should neither be indoors or outdoors with other people. It suggests we should just stop social contact.

[HibsGW]

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The voice of reason? It'll never catch on. 😉

You realise he’s criticising your post too by the way.

[Moulin Yarns]

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You realise he’s criticising your post too by the way.

Yes, and that's why PB is the voice of reason, being the first person to say both 'extreme' opinions are far too polarised. There needs to be the acceptance that there are the 'open everything up and throw away the masks' people and the 'keep masks in certain circumstances and don't all crowd together' people. The reality is somewhere in the middle.

[Pretty Boy]

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You realise he’s criticising your post too by the way.

I'm not directly criticising anyone's post because there are multiple posts by a lot of people saying similar. I'm 100% certain I have been guilty of doing the same in the past as well so I'd even label it a self critique.

It's an observation on some of the extreme that can slip into a thread as potentially emotive as this one. Ultimately when you reach for that extreme through misrepresentation you arguably weaken your own point.

[Rocky]

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I keep reading somewhere that it's safe outside and you can't catch Covid outdoors


https://news.stv.tv/west-central/mor...0-fan-zone?top

Someone must be lying.

Just because there's no comprehension of nuance or balance of risk from the "these restrictions are a farce" brigade doesn't mean you need to provide balance on the other direction.

[Hibbyradge]

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It really isn’t. The implication that being outdoors is unsafe suggests we should neither be indoors or outdoors with other people. It suggests we should just stop social contact.

"Let’s all kack our breeks and never do anything ever again."

I'm not sure how people's opinions could be further exaggerated, and misrepresented,, than that sentence.

[SChibs]

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I hear what you're saying, you can't take away the travelling etc though, they're all factored in while doing the covid risk assessments prior to certification prior to an event when deciding crowd sizes etc. .... I think the general premise is 'did you catch covid because you attended the event'

I know what you're saying but I dont think that's what the post I was getting at was implying. They mentioned outdoors, not an actual event.

[HibsGW]

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"Let’s all kack our breeks and never do anything ever again."

I'm not sure how people's opinions could be further exaggerated, and misrepresented,, than that sentence.

If it’s not safe to meet outside, it’s not safe to meet anywhere. That’s what was being implied. That’s why it got the reaction it got. Its never “safe” to meet anywhere pre covid either, there’s always some element of risk to leaving your bed.

[calumhibee1]

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If it’s not safe to meet outside, it’s not safe to meet anywhere. That’s what was being implied. That’s why it got the reaction it got. Its never “safe” to meet anywhere pre covid either, there’s always some element of risk to leaving your bed.

Stay in your bed too long and you risk a blood clot. We’ll never be safe again I tell you.

That bed of mine is going in the bin. Nothing but danger.

[Sir David Gray]

Daily Scottish update;

1,386 new cases since yesterday - 6.3% positivity rate
Decrease of 8 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 13 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,022,914 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,202 people since yesterday
3,305,325 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 19,172 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

[Sir David Gray]

Breakdown of today's cases by council area;

North Lanarkshire - 149
Glasgow - 149
South Lanarkshire - 136
Edinburgh - 134
Fife - 110
Highland - 89
Aberdeen - 45
West Lothian - 41
Aberdeenshire - 41
North Ayrshire - 37
West Dunbartonshire - 35
Dumfries and Galloway - 33
Renfrewshire - 32
East Lothian - 31
East Dunbartonshire - 27
Midlothian - 26
Falkirk - 26
Dundee - 26
Argyll and Bute - 26
Perth and Kinross - 25
Scottish Borders - 24
East Ayrshire - 23
Stirling - 20
East Renfrewshire - 20
Inverclyde - 18
South Ayrshire - 17
Angus - 17
Moray - 10
Clackmannanshire - 5
Orkney - 3
Na-h Eileanan Siar - 3
Shetland - 1

[SideBurns]

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Daily Scottish update;

1,386 new cases since yesterday - 6.3% positivity rate
Decrease of 8 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 13 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,022,914 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,202 people since yesterday
3,305,325 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 19,172 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

That's a big decrease in ICU numbers, without seeing much difference in actual cases. Further indication that the vaccines are stopping serious illness, surely.

[lord bunberry]

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That's a big decrease in ICU numbers, without seeing much difference in actual cases. Further indication that the vaccines are stopping serious illness, surely.

9 people died so that probably accounts for the majority of the decrease.

[Sir David Gray]

28,612 cases and 103 deaths registered in the UK today.

[CMurdoch]

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Daily Scottish update;

1,386 new cases since yesterday - 6.3% positivity rate
Decrease of 8 in the confirmed cases in hospital since yesterday
Decrease of 13 in the confirmed cases in intensive care since yesterday
4,022,914 people have now received their first dose of the vaccine - 2,202 people since yesterday
3,305,325 people have now received their second dose of the vaccine - 19,172 people since yesterday
9 deaths registered since yesterday

Case numbers fell to 1000 last week only to bounce back up again to an 1200-1400 over the last few days. Similarly positivity of tests fell below 5% and has now moved up to 6%.
The effect of schools going back and things opening up from Monday will be an interesting watch.

However, this wave appears to be reaching it's end with hospital numbers and now intensive care numbers finally dropping significantly. Just the daily deaths to drop to bookend the wave.

Vaccination numbers appear to be rising again after being below 20,000 for a long time.
Hopefully that continues and the inevitable next wave will cause far less hospital cases than this wave which has been far less destructive than the previous one.

All very positive at the moment despite the naivety and selfishness of many folk.

[Sir David Gray]

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9 people died so that probably accounts for the majority of the decrease.

Yes whilst that's most probably true, 9 (and more) people have died on previous days without that kind of reduction in ICU so the fact these people aren't being replaced by others going into ICU is definitely a huge positive.

[Sir David Gray]

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Daily update - first dose;

UK - 46,961,830 (89.6% of adult population)

Wales - 2,300,137 (92% of adult population)
England - 39,416,306 (89.6% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,020,712 (89.3% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,224,675 (84.5% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,047,529 (74.5% of adult population)

Wales - 2,099,624 (84% of adult population)
England - 32,588,410 (74.1% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,073,342 (74% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,286,153 (73% of adult population)

Daily update - first dose;

UK - 46,997,495 (89.7% of adult population)

Wales - 2,300,137 (92% of adult population)
England - 39,443,338 (89.6% of adult population)
Scotland - 4,022,914 (89.4% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,231,106 (84.9% of adult population)

Second dose;

UK - 39,210,356 (74.8% of adult population)

Wales - 2,099,624 (84% of adult population)
Northern Ireland - 1,079,825 (74.5% of adult population)
England - 32,725,582 (74.4% of adult population)
Scotland - 3,305,325 (73.5% of adult population)

** Wales no longer release any data on a Saturday. **

[Sir David Gray]

Received my second dose today - 3 hours on and so far so good, no symptoms.

[SteveHFC]

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Received my second dose today - 3 hours on and so far so good, no symptoms.

My mate got his 2nd dose on Thursday and has been pretty rubbish since then.

[Pretty Boy]

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My mate got his 2nd dose on Thursday and has been pretty rubbish since then.

I had mine on Tuesday evening.

Felt ***** from about midday on the Wednesday, really achey, tired and feverish. Completely disappeared by Thursday evening and went as suddenly as it came.

Wasn't pleasant but nothing a few paracetemol couldn't handle.

[Sir David Gray]

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My mate got his 2nd dose on Thursday and has been pretty rubbish since then.

Still nothing for me so far, hopefully stays that way.

[Sir David Gray]

Physical distancing will remain in healthcare settings, despite Scotland's move beyond level zero on Monday.

Scotland's health secretary has confirmed that hospitals, doctors' surgeries and dentists will keep the 2m rule after the majority of coronavirus restrictions are eased.

Humza Yousaf said the situation would be reviewed at an unspecified time in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58130484

[Moulin Yarns]

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Physical distancing will remain in healthcare settings, despite Scotland's move beyond level zero on Monday.

Scotland's health secretary has confirmed that hospitals, doctors' surgeries and dentists will keep the 2m rule after the majority of coronavirus restrictions are eased.

Humza Yousaf said the situation would be reviewed at an unspecified time in the future.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-58130484

I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

[neil7908]

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I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

Agreed. We know hospital transmission has been happening, and given the vulnerable are more likely to be in hospital, and still have a higher chance of dying even if vaccinated, this seems like a very sensible approach.

[HUTCHYHIBBY]

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I don't see anything wrong with that as they are settings which have seen high transmission levels. You don't want to go into A&E withe a broken wrist and catch Covid.

Correct, my uncle went into hospital at the end of January with an infection in his pancreas, tested positive for covid the night before he was due to be released and never made it back home.

[H18S NX]

I am immunocompromised and i have to go to hospital for a check up next week,now i am not so sure after reading some comments.

[Santa Cruz]

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I am immunocompromised and i have to go to hospital for a check up next week,now i am not so sure after reading some comments.

I understand your anxiety as I would have the same concerns. Jason Leitch said a wee while back patients who pick up a hospital acquired infection are predominantly in-patients on wards. I have family who have attended clinic appointments and they all say the clinics were operating with good safety measures. I hope that reassures you.

Just to add A&E Depts are not the same as out patient departments, they can't control the flow of patients in the same way as they do in clinics with spaced out scheduled appointments and socially distanced waiting areas.

[Rocky]

Anybody know which drop-in centres are doing vaccinations for 16/17 year olds today? I'm aware the Pyramids at Bathgate is but was looking for one in Edinburgh.

https://www.gov.scot/news/vaccines-for-16-17-year-olds/