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Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
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It really is.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunshineOnLeith
I have absolutely no idea what's going on with Youan but I can tell you I had a private MRI scan on my ankle and my physio had the results the next morning.Quote:
Originally Posted by staunchhibby
It has been a stop start season for Youan, I’m not sure the much discussed coincidental injuries give him much mitigation or credit in the bank for his numbers this season though. When he has played, and he’s played well in a number of those games, he hasn’t scored or assisted anywhere near as much as needed. A “goal contribution” every 306 minutes this season is as much a part of why we’ve only won 7 games as all the other reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
A good player on his day, but those days have been few and far between this season. He’s created as much discussion about non football stuff as he has what he’s done on the park. I don’t think that’s true of anyone else in the squad. I’m sure there was talk about us paying a similar fee to Vente to make his loan permanent. If we could double our money on him I’d take that and be glad to be rid of the Youan circus. Hopefully his replacement is already here in Bowie.
Realistically based on how he has done this season and how long is left on his contract how much would you except for him?Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
I think this is where I have a problem with stats in football.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
It’s clear as day that Youan - when fit and focussed - brings something to our team that we miss badly when either he’s out or his head’s gone for a walk. He was integral to our good run of form against good teams and we’ve missed him badly since he’s been out. Ultimately, whilst we can talk all day about goals, assists, xG and the like, the only thing that really matters is the team’s WLD performance.
Tbh I’ve slaughtered him on here in the past when I’ve thought he’s been pissing about. There’s not been evidence of that this season though imo, even if the stats related to his end product maybe haven’t been what they’ve been previously.
I think we look a bit dull and workmanlike without him and I think the post a few above about how we react to our “mercurial” players is a valid one.
I’m no lover of stats either, and almost reluctant to use them but it’s the modern way of debating these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
If we were to take the Aberdeen game as a line in the sand, fortunate for Youan as it discounts the previous two defeats he played 90 minutes in. From that Aberdeen game we won 4, lost 1 and drew 1. Since the Boxing Day game when he last played we have won 3 (one was against Clydebank) and drawn 3. Much of a muchness all things considered and the squad running on fumes in that period.
That’s my general point, players deserve credit for Aberdeen being the turning point. However results have remained largely the same from when we had the likes of Youan & Newell to when they have been out for large spells. That most of our squad is much of a muchness, with some having a higher “on their day” bar than others, but no one who would leave a hole to fill if they left. With Youan I’m just bored of the circus he brings for not enough to mitigate it, IMO.
The circus isn’t brought by him, it’s in the minds of people on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Modfather
Some of that is the case. However, Rocky has had as much abuse, if not more, but just gets on with his job quietly. He hasn’t argued with fans, cryptic posts, public spats with Bartley, coincidental injuries etc etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHFC
Anyway, I’ve said my piece on Youan so will leave this thread as I’ve nothing new to add.
There are things that have happened that aren’t just in folks minds.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHFC
He was arguing with someone in the crowd at full time at Easter Road. He was arguing with someone in the crowd whilst the game was going on up at Ross County. There is the social media side of things that doesn’t exactly endear him to folk, particularly when he’s posted about not wanting to play for us. They’re all things that you don’t see with the vast majority of players.
Personally wish we could just have him on the pitch playing as he can but thats not been the case enough over the last year.
Sort of proves the point. Incidents largely caused by the nonsense written about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Na no really. Two of the incidents were nothing to do with something written. It was him reacting to something said. And the other example I gave was of something he himself wrote. All things you very rarely see from other players.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHFC
Are you aware that he has had online abuse, racist abuse, that has necessitated our own club getting involved? So yeah, id say Trinity has it pretty much spot on. Pretty much everything negative in relation to Youan stems from other folk writing things.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
I prefer to dwell on his 90 second double in the derby. Or his majestic assist for Boyle in a previous derby. Others can get lost in muckraking, no idea what the motivation is there.
I don't think he's getting his scans done at Leith Community Treatment Centre.Quote:
Originally Posted by staunchhibby
With a private doctor, the results should be available within an hour or so.
Don’t get the muckraking comment. Folk just have a different opinion on things that seem to upset a few others.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I’ve said I think Youan is a good player, that’s fairly obvious. I also think, whatever the reasons, we’ve not seen that good player nearly enough over the last year or so.
Of course I’m aware of some of the other things that have went on but it’s just an assumption on your part that everything negative stems from that. Just like others make the assumption that there is a link between his sore toe and the transfer window.
If he can’t play with a sore toe I wouldn’t be spending millions on him.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHFC
Especially a sore toe that isn’t broken and shows up perfectly fine in scans etc 🤔
You choose to believe he’s injured, other people don’t.
Like the whole transfer window nonsense, you think you know it all 👍🏼
Hopefully his transfer is swift and we can work on a replacement. I’d be very disappointed if we do the usual drawn out til last minute and no one signed as a replacement. Still think we need options in there.
His toe is brokenQuote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
His toe is broken
Sore toe, sore toe, sore toe, sore toe...etc
Well at least you continue to prove that your opinion on this matter is pretty worthless.Quote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
Ellie actually told someone in hospitality a few weeks back that he wasn’t injured. So maybe it’s Ellie that’s making stuff up? There is nothing to suggest that person made it up and they apparently know the player quite well. As I’ve said already if this injection fixes it and he’s back playing I will be delighted. In the battle for 3rd place we need players like that on the pitch.Quote:
Originally Posted by TrinityHFC
An argument could be made if Joe had gone for treatment earlier we might have had him back earlier. In a lot of cases delaying addressing an injury only prolongs the treatment time, and we end up with the "2 or 3 weeks" till they're back ended up as months.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Given how long Youan was out at the start of the season, it would be understandable he'd not want to take unnecessary risks with a second injury.
You'll know all about making things up, judging by some of your previous nonsense on here. Sorry to be so blunt, but you're ITK cred is deeply tainted :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
I know someone Elie (not Ellie) down at Tesco's a week after the derby match. He was clearly limping.
One of the issues with social media is people assume that content is being made for them. While that is true for a businesses account, for individuals it is not. Youan's page is essentially a diary for him, which he shares, he's not necessarily thinking "oh what will Hibs fans want to see today" like some professional influencer. It's possible that after a defeat he picks himself up by reminding himself of the things he CAN do rather than focusing on what went wrong in the previous game, hence the highlight reels.Quote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Obviously there's a fair whack of conjecture in the above, but no more so than assuming he's posting highlight reels because he doesn't care about Hibs. Best thing anyone can do if they don't like the content someone posts is scroll past it.
I thought it had been accepted that he did have an injury originally, what is being debated is whether he still is ?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
This toe thing is a transfer ploy I think ,I don't know , perhaps there even isn't a toe.🤔
I couldnt care less about ITK....I think ive explained that to you and your odd obsession on many occasions. Would be nice to have these discussions without getting personal. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
None of us really know and quoting a source from hospitality from the poster concerned has been shown not to be credible in the past.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
I guess, and that is the operative word, that Youan was keen to move in the summer, the injury in a league cup game scunnered that.
As you say, he was injured at the derby. I also guess that he also still wants to go. I think Hibs want to sell him.
When a move came up before and we rejected a bid from unknown suitors, the issue was price. I think we should just accept that he's going to leave, negotiate the best deal in the circumstances and move on. If we're quick we can spend the fee on someone else and get them in the door and contributing (the likes of Danny Armstrong springs to mind).
Maybe on the NHS.Quote:
Originally Posted by staunchhibby
I had a camera up my arse a few weeks ago, and recieved the results on a screen while i watched.
Is your arse playing for Hibs tomorrow?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
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Originally Posted by Hibiza
I don’t doubt that there was an injury, but I think they’re using it as an excuse to keep him injury free while a transfer is on the cards. If it doesn’t, there is an escape route for him returning to the squad.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers