Ah heard Blobby Williamson was spotted at Edinburgh Airport this morning:agree:
Be scared, be very very scared:greengrin
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Ah heard Blobby Williamson was spotted at Edinburgh Airport this morning:agree:
Be scared, be very very scared:greengrin
Be hard not to spot him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
He was a Blob on the radar...A very big Blob
zola seen buying shoe polish & a step ladder earlier, could he be getting his boots out the loft & becoming player assistant??
Peter Andre getting back with big tits/no brains would be my bet
I just saw Salman Rushdie and Amir Khan leaving the main stand :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by GREEN SKYE
Having spoken to Billys brother i dont think its him, however Clarke was interveiwed for the Killie job, his mother still lives in paisley and is very ill at the moment.
He is very keen to move back to scotland, :agree:
i already announced this news about 3 hours ago on the steve clark post mate!Quote:
Originally Posted by gobragh1875
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Originally Posted by ivan03
Jordi Cruyff is *still* on the no26 bus btw.
When will we get the hint and sign him up
Clarke :grr: get it sorted :grr:
I dinnae think Forth 2 will let him goQuote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
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Originally Posted by Springbank
Was Reyes on it tae? Heard he was :confused:
And they chose mixu over him? :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Kevin@green
On a serious note this is blatently all pish and theres not even a chance of him coming to hibs.
I really doubt if any announcement will be made until after this week's International games.Quote:
Originally Posted by ivan03
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Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
That was actually a Boeing 747.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
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Originally Posted by stu in nottingham
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You know if after all this it turns out to be Jimmy ******in Calderwood the Tasche's tasch will adorn my wall! :grr:
Its JIM JEFFRIES he just happened to be in the Hibs shop at the time, aye right Jimbo:wink:we believe you:agree:
Aye, brilliant at keeping birds of the runway.............Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
Not sure the relevance but seen Ricky Sbragia on the corner of George St/Hanover Street at 5ish tonight. Had his civvies on.
Possibly up to watch the u21's or possibly an interview? Ex prem league boss altho granted for only a few months?
Given the insane quality of our supposed new Number 1 and 2, Sbragia being youth coach wouldn't surprise me now :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
I would still like to see Michael O'Neill get it, looking less likely though. I tried to find a Shamrock Rovers fans forum to see what they made of it but could not see one.
Over and over, Ian Crocker was saying Billy Stark was rumored to be coming to ER as Clarkes asst :thumbsup:
i'd expect our new manager to be announced wednesday, more press coverage once the scotland game is done with
That's because he is rumoured to be coming here. The press read hibs.net too.Quote:
Originally Posted by nch
It means nothing regardless how many times Ian Crocker says it.
Ooops!! Sorry 'bout that:boo hoo:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I'll be amazed if we hear anything before the weekend at the earliest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lupo
Yogi only left 7 days ago.
The Hibs board said that they were going to take enough time to ensure they got the right man.
So, what have the board had to do in the last week?
1. Prepare for the AGM.
2. Ensure the vacancy is publicised as widely as possible whilst being discreet.
3. Allow time for applications and CV's to be submitted.
4. Consider the CV's of interested parties.
5. Create a short list.
6. Interview candidates.
7. Possible second interviews.
8. Negotiate terms, including salary, length of contract, compensation terms, budget for support staff, budget for players etc etc etc
9. Ask lawyers to prepare contract.
10. Pass to candidates lawyers to check and agree.
11. Arrange for candidate to sign contract.
12. Make announcement.
And the rest. And the day job.
If they've managed to do all that in a week, big respect.
Why would they have to be discreet? Not having a go, just not sure what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
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Originally Posted by ScottB
He's been interviewed by Sky Sports and said that he's not been contacted by Petrie... Thank GOD
Discrete was possibly the wrong word.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
I meant without making a vulgar song and dance about it by advertising in the national press really.
Tastefully.
Someone will be along to offer a more appropriate adjective. :greengrin
JC at the game tonight, just sayin :greengrin
Please tell me you meant John Collins not tangoman?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibee92
Spoke to Jimmy Calderwood on Saturday. At that point, he hadn't been contacted by Hibs and he sounded disappointed. He went onto say that hibs were a brilliant Club and I got the impression that he wouldn't think twice if he was approached.Quote:
Originally Posted by purehibee1875
ahhhh a mystery!Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
sorry pal, never even noticed that, collins :agree:
Saw kenny dalglish at easter road tonight.
Just saying...
Is that how it's done?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I thought every new manager is tapped up in advance, and hides in the club store changing rooms, waiting on the old manager to vacate the hot seat. :dunno:
They've been doing it so often recently they can probably do it in their sleep :greengrin simples!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Un-jamboesque?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
(Not really a word never mind an adjective but you get my point:greengrin)
course he wouldnae, but he spent years unable to win at Tynie and telling us how Aberdeen where a far bigger club than us and the Yams. **** himQuote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
Hibees are going to go mental everywhere, I have it on excellent authority that our new manager is indeed Clark.
SANDY Clark.
Dick Campbell as assistant.
This from my two lads at EM
If you wanted a one to one on a personal problem the answer usually was
JC
" ... if you need help ask your family : while your here just get on and do the job you are paid to do " ( or words to that effect )
So what's your point, caller?! JC was trying to run the Club/Team in a professional manner - or was it as a Youth Club?! If my son had a personal problem, I'd want/expect him to come to me too... He tries to turn the Club in to a professional outfit, using the experience he's gained from living/playing abroad - and it get's thrown back in his face cos he ruffled a few feathers...?
All I was doing was replying to an earlier post saying that JC wouldn't come back because of the way he was treated - is that still a load of nonsense? Apologies if it is...
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Originally Posted by Hibs07p
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Originally Posted by Pitlochry hibee
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Originally Posted by EskbankHibby
All good and valid points.
However, the statement at the AGM said, "We have the best part of two clear weeks over the international break to try and make progress. We do not see it as imperative to have a new management team in place for the Kilmarnock game - we want to take the time to make the right next appointment.
"Football being football, the telephones, emails and text messages have been red hot. There will be a lot of interest in one of the leading jobs in football management in Scotland.
That suggests we've still got a bit of a wait in front of us.
Exciting thogh, i'nt it? :greengrin
Wow - makes you wonder how most other clubs manage to do it quickly then!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
There was one , called Shamrock Rovers Ultras , until recently coz i was on it just before Yogi "left by mutual consent". It doesn`t appear to be going now though...not paid the bills i expect...!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RickyS
Even our board are not that far out of touch with the fans :bye:Quote:
Originally Posted by Speedway
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Originally Posted by purehibee1875
Thank goodness.
Dont want Claderwood or his King Billy assistant(s) anywhere near Hibernian. Cockroaches the lot of them.
He would have taken Hibs to a new level. But that level of tripe, dull football and would have been well below John Hughes' level :agree:
People spend most of their waking hours at work.Quote:
Originally Posted by TedSnedds
Some folk get on better with their employers and colleagues than with their parents and families.
Sometimes it's the family that's the problem.
I think it's imperative that a football manager dealing with young players is able to act as advisor, confident, mentor, counsellor and friend.
Older, battle hardened professionals may not need the same amount of support, but guys in their teens and early 20's definitely need someone they can turn to, imo.
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Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
If i went to my employer with a problem, especially a problem that could in theory affect my performance at work, and i was dismissed in such a manner i would have serious doubts over whether i wanted to continue working for said employer. I'm also sure that knowing your boss doesn't care about you as long as you 'do the job you're paid for' must be pretty demotivating, i'd imagine even more so for someone in their mid to late teens and early 20s.
It's a bit ironic then that the players that reacted best to JC's methods were the young guys, Hogg, Mccann, Benji, Brown and Stevenson all improved under him and have gone backwards since he left, although to be fair Mccann has hardly played.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Absolutely no inside knowledge but i've got trouble believing all these stories about his poor man management, imo too many players improved under him for that to be the case
I'm not sure if you're being sarcastic or not, but I think most clubs take their time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
Because, as Hibs fans, we're not waiting for an announcement with baited breath when say, Lincoln become managerless, we don't appreciate the timescale involved.
Some clubs rush to appoint an interim manager, but that's not what we're doing. For example, Killie brought in Calderwood and Motherwell brought in Brown. I guess we could have done the same, but we want something different.
Some, high profile clubs will go behind the incumbent's back and secretly tap up a manager in advance but we haven't been as duplicitous.
Also, there is huge interest in the Hibs job so we should consider all the applicants properly. Many of the names will be unknown to the board, so an amount of research will be necessary.
I remember the clamour for Jim Gannon to be appointed last time on the back of one poster's fanciful and glowing posts. We all seem to be desperate for Steve Clarke this time, when none of us know if he has the right attributes - or if there is a better candidate out there.
Unlike us, the board are duty bound to find out.
There is no need for an unseemly rush. We have a 2 week break which allows us even more scope to take our time.
If Garteth Evans is in charge against Killie, so be it. We might win. He might be the man for the job.
Kevin Thomson?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
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Originally Posted by purehibee1875
Is he going for a job with them then :greengrin
He might not have liked JC but could you really say he's gone from strength to strength since leaving hibs? He's shown the odd glimpse of what he's capable of but never consistantlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
When's this apparent news conference today?
Caldera de la Cruz Nuz understands that Elmo will be named tomorrow, with Big Bird as his assistant.
Cookie Monster will be brought in to eat all the pies.
Word is that Bert and Ernie will be the first signings of the new era - they're out of contract and will be drafted in to shore up the defence. Negotiations are ongoing to bring in Grover as goalkeeping coach.
You read it here first! :notworthy:
This is going off on a tangent. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
I think employers, including football managers, have a duty of care for their employees and offer them advice and support in areas of their private life, if it's requested.
WE often hear about clubs "standing by" a player who has got himself into trouble.
Presumably, JC would have said it's nothing to do with Hibernian Football Club.
Anyway, water under a bridge now.
:confused: yeah im sure every media outlet across the entire UK didnt have Yogis sacking as some sort of headline somewhere and therefor no one would guess we needed a new manager and would be open to applications and approaches :rotflmao:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Maybe Petrie should have just put it in the classifieds :wink:
We HAD a 2 week break. We now have 3 days before Killie. I think the break may have been a bad thing for us. If what we were hearing about the players not wanting to work hard at training etc then it will have been 2 weeks where the players may not have trained properly. IMO the board would have been looking for a while at possible replacement, not contacting them, but certainly looking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I think the best scenario for hibs will be for them to appoint a manager before the Killie game but still let Evans be in charge. That way the new manager can sit in the stand and watc the players perform, which he should see 11 players on the pitch busting a gut.
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Originally Posted by bingo70
Sadly , as I am great fan of JC the player, the "stories" re his management skills are almost all correct .
This from players/staff at EM .
Remember regardless what job you are in you will always find that diffferent "workers" react differently to management styles.
Some will just get on with it , some will object , some even move on and footballers are no different.!
That's how life is :greengrin
But EM wasn't around when JC was in charge. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by jdships
I thought that clubs sacked a manager at international break to ensure they had time to get someone in before the break ended. I also thought noone would sack a manager without having looked into replacements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
To go into the Killie game with no manager would be ridiculous IMO.
I wonder how Baltimore Brito or Nevio Scala found out about the vacancy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac
Or any other European coaches who may be interested in the job.
I would think it extremely foolhardy, not to mention arrogant, if Hibs decided they didn't need to alert folk to the vacancy.
I'm going by what was publicly stated at the AGM.Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
"We have the best part of two clear weeks over the international break to try and make progress. We do not see it as imperative to have a new management team in place for the Kilmarnock game - we want to take the time to make the right next appointment.
"Football being football, the telephones, emails and text messages have been red hot. There will be a lot of interest in one of the leading jobs in football management in Scotland."
Also, if Hibs had beaten St Johnstone, Yogi would still be in charge.
The Killie game is pretty insignificant when looking at possiblythe next 3 to 5 years. We need to get the right person in and therefore the best scenario for Hibs is to appoint the best man for the job even if that takes a bit of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs13681
We have only been without a manager for eight days, so I am not expecting an appointment before the match with Killie. It's far better the board take their time and hopefully get the best person for the job.
On the other hand, Steve Clarke is who I am hoping gets it and I also have a bet at 11/1 on him too. :greengrin
That's what I think will happen although the announcement will come after the Killie game.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs13681
It's all just speculation. It could be this afternoon.
It could be Csaba Laszlo.
Dont know why people keep talking about 3 to 5 years. Hibs need instance success as they cant afford slumps. Hibs will have quickly gotten a list together of potential targets and already contacted any that they find may fit their bill. From there they would have shortened the list even further by looking at wage demands and possible budget demands.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
The Killie game is significant IMO as any potential candidates will be watching that match. They will also know that 18 player are out of contract at the end of the season. if any potential candidate watches the Killie game and thinks that pretty much all of the 18 are not worth keeping they will then know they have to replace them all with very little budget.
With hibs performances at the moment, every game is important.
Dont even joke about that! I dont think I could cope with the interviews!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
He probably would've been but they'd have still been thinking about sacking him. They didn't wake up on the Sunday after the St Johnstone game and realise that we'd been on a poor run, it must've been on their minds for a while. Facing an angry mob at the AGM might've made them act quicker though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
If the next manager does well we'll be back having this discussion again around next January/February. There's no 3-5 year plan! Unless they do some kind of succession planning this time?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Could be a reason for the process drawing out to a week and a half though. He's still answering the "why did you apply for the job?" question.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibs13681
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Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
Looks like there won't be a new manager, at least not taking charge, by Saturday:
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/20...262950_2182012
Just been told by a reliable source to lump on Steve Clark.....unfortunately he is now long odds on at 1/3 :grr:
Blast.
You must be that the last hibbie to get this info. Most got at least evens
I know - just been a bit busy of late and out of the loop :grr: :boo hoo:Quote:
Originally Posted by lucky
I got cheeky fiver at 12-1 last week on steve clarke, hopefully it will come off
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Originally Posted by Manxhibs
Thanks to me
In fairness it was me who mentioned clarke to you as a very good option first. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by purehibee1875
And me who said to place a bet on himQuote:
Originally Posted by Manxhibs
from reading a few of your posts it is clear you have not the first iota how the whole thing works and how quickly a manager can be appointed or the millions of agents who are agents who are agents for people all over the world, you see peope will instantly put their clients, clients name in the hat without their knowledge, the reason, to let everyone know they are looking for work!!! not arrogant in the slightest, Hibs dont need to do a think apart from sift through the people they are intersted in or proactively approach someone should they have someone in mind!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Thats by the by. GGTTHQuote:
Originally Posted by purehibee1875
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Originally Posted by Speedway
As they say
"Not often you are right but this time you are definately wrong" :greengrin
From "Scotsman"
19 December 2007
By DAVID HARDIE
THE day generations of Hibs stars dreamed of finally arrived today as the Easter Road club officially opened its £4.2million state-of-the-art training centre.
And immediately boss John Collins claimed there wasn't a football manager in the world who wouldn't be proud to have the East Mains Training Centre, built on more than 50 acres of land near Ormiston, at their disposal.
As often seems to happen with your goodself you need to do a bit more research before commiting to print !!:wink:
:bye:
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Originally Posted by jdships
Pretty sure Collins departed the very next day after EM was opened.
Right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac
In that case, we should have heard by now.
I wonder what the hold up is.
:rolleyes:
Collins definitely quit a day or so after EM's was opened.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdships
I liked John Collins whilst he was in charge however. Hibs should look away from old players and other spl managers. It seems like thief is a circulation of managers in Scottish football
Mixu- hibs then killie
Butcher- Motherwell then ict
Jeffries- hearts-killie then hearts
Yogi Falkirk then hibs
Fair enough they have had stints elsewhere they always fall back too same managers.
Might be me talking cack but seems like that too me
I'm certain it was the next day.Quote:
Originally Posted by offshorehibby
Thats what i said .Quote:
Originally Posted by The_Todd
But the point being was JC was around, even if it was just a day or two :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
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Originally Posted by darrenmcintosh2
There is a bit of a manager merry-go-round in Scotland with some managers. McGhee, Mowbray, McLeish (although now in England) and Calderwood are just another few names you could throw into that mix.
I agree that we need a bit fresh blood and thankfully it seems like we're going to get it this time.
Collins was around when it was opened allright :agree: Thiers a big **** of picture of him cheesing somewhere outside EM'S:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
He just never hung around.
That's what a was looking for manager merry-go-round. It's a bit annoying cause their was the talk of Billy Reids name thrown into the mix. Not heard many more rumors what's the rumors being thrown around nowQuote:
Originally Posted by jonny
Here you go. Click here for all the latest rumours.Quote:
Originally Posted by darrenmcintosh2
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Yes he resigned 20/12/2007 .Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Therefore he WAS at EM, albeit for only one day :wink:
That doesn';t detract from his lack of man management skills towards my two you rellies who were part of his squad beit at EM or Wardie Playing Fields :greengrin
"Fact are facts" like them or not !!! :agree:
and this from a chap that gave me good info ,just before the Mowbray departure, the next manager is ....................................Paul Le Guene if that's how you spell it. not read the previous 17 pages but i'm entitled to throw mine in the hat:wink:
oh dear!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
i think youll find i said it could be done if Hibs had their man, clearly they havent and therefor, again as i said, will be going through the amount of applications.
There is also speculation that one maybe involved with the scotland u21's so clearly there could be no approach until today at the earliest, i also said it could be done quickly if need be IF they had identified their man!!!
Now if you would like any further explanation please feel free to ask away and for a small agents fee ill explain as your not really grasping it.
Your assuming it's not already done and dusted and they are just waiting to make the announcement.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mac
Simply put, unless you have a contact at the club, none of us know squat.
I'm almost certain that it'll be somebody wearing a suit and a daft, slightly embarrassed smile while holding a scarf with HIBERNIAN emblazoned on it over his head.
I would have massive respect for the first manager who just refused to do this muppet media pose.
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Originally Posted by Mac
Have I said or done something to upset you?
I'm really not sure why you've taken such exception to my suggestion that Hibs will take their time to appoint a new manager.
I may not have got the process exactly right, but my point that it is more complicated than some would believe, is valid.
Particularly as you seem to agree with me.
East Mains had been being used months before the "official" opening with STF, RP and JC all singing it's praises.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Guy at work has come in and said that Dave Penney http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dave_Penney has been named by Forth One as the man to take over at Hibs - did anyone else hear this?