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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
Why are you multi quoting? oh god your..........
So am I, thanks to my ex, she rattled on about karma all the time and was a Yam.......sadly (not) I then ended up with her cousin briefly........which reinforced my karma beliefs :greengrin good things happen to good people and all that :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbychick1
I'm a very bad man :na na:
Let me repeat one more time, Sergey is 100% a Hibby, I've known him for many years & my Hibs lineage goes back to my grandfather being baptised by Edward Hannan in 1875! Just in case I get the dreaded LTYF :wink:. Again, Sergey has been right on almost everything throughout & if you read tonight's EN you'll see he & Bajillions were pretty much spot on with their status reports right up until the last 48 hours. It's really not a stretch to say that a week ago BJ's thoughts on Yams prospects were virtually the same as those expressed by Sergey & Baj on this forum.Quote:
Originally Posted by ionahibby
Desantos/Sanger/Sydney et al is another matter!
No point in you changing your user name Ronnie, we'd still know it was you as you reply to nearly every post :tee hee: :thumbsup:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Are you related to Sanger who left by mutual consent or have you now morphed into a new creation or simply merged your two identities back into one :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by sangerdesantos1
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yes and noQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
and yes:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by sangerdesantos1
What the.......:confused:
OK, who slipped acid in to my ovaltine?
Do us a favour and change it back eh :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by sangerdesantos1
Boooooooooooooooo, doesnt it take 21 days?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
To bin someone from the board ? Hopefully not
Do you work for McEwan Fraser :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by sangerdesantos1
Steady on ,I didn't reply to the previous three :wink:See you soon when I can make my contribution to bumping up the number of season tickets for Leith Lynx Will probably be at next two home games :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by FranckSuzy
Lol. Well said. It has all gone a bit fantastical. It's hit some folk pretty bad!Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
one and the same has got to be well rid IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
I feel magic marinello, like I've been quantum leaped back to Truth, Yip Yap, Pure, Burger Queen, Tattoo and Carbolic Frolic all thanks to Sangster :greengrin wee bit of Taste thrown in for good measure as I'm feeling fruity tonight :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
I think Sangster is the most legal of legal highs :aok:
I think if you google Boooooooooo Nobel and Finance. You get a short list of Desantos's contribution and why he should be regarded as an authentic poster .Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
Moderators, Nurses could we get a "wibble,wibble I'm a teapot" board and consign Desantos there for quarantine purposes ?
It's Catch 22Quote:
Originally Posted by ...WentToMowAnSPL
Aye, I'm raging myself, but what's going on in this thread? Some Hibees seem to have had a mental collapse today.Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
Can we keep it on topic? They're not out of the woods just yet.
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Originally Posted by truehibernian
:agree: BungleQuote:
Originally Posted by ...WentToMowAnSPL
could be a chameleon:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibbychick1
May I just say that it's been worth the Jambos escaping liquidation to read some of the stuff from De Santos de Orango over the last few pages? Fantastic!
I don't think I'll have to dream tonight.
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Originally Posted by sleeping giant
Where are you getting the De Orango bit from is this another twist about to be exclusively revealed . It's certainly been an eventful day and still 25 minutes to go to The Witching HourQuote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
I agree.....it's reaffirmed that for the next few years we should embark fully on a programme of Jambo Mocking :greengrin:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
Takes me back to mid 80's Tollcross where it was commonplace......now that The Nose may be back with them, Lockey is showering in glory (literally) and they will all self flagellate with their wee twirly maroon scarfs, I feel the time is right to resurrect our complete and utter class dominance over the 'Kyles'.
Bring on the 27th :aok: 'you only wear Le Shark, you only wear Le Shark.........'
They really are (and were) fashion tinks :greengrin
My wife laughed when I read her this post. Some happy memories there. Although trying to explain the mood on H.net took me a bit longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
Always a pleasure Loopz.....sadly I now have the leering gold teeth grin of Yogi ruining my 90's moment. And stories of glass tables......:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Loopz
'cos I'm honing it
Just been standing in the pub for the last 3 hours with 5 jubilant yams. There was a lot of absolute nonsense getting talked about new managers, new players, new main stands, straight back up, great road trips next season and massive direct debit income stream going into the player budget. The stuff of absolute fantasy.
I have to say though, that none of the total nonsense they were spouting matches some of the bull**** I have just read over the last ten pages on here.
Think some people need to step back from the keyboard. Go for a walk. Get a life. Something?
Bad luck getting two Jambo delivery men in Paris...Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
What do you mean bull****??Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Could somebody please help? I've been working all day and then went for a few beers. Am I pi***d or am I in the Twilight Zone?. WTF is this all about? Could Mikey or someone please summarise what the ****** this is all about? I'm too old for this. It's all gone right over my head.
He's been in the pub for three hours. Ignore him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
Yeah I'm thinking that's the best idea too.Quote:
Originally Posted by peter douglas
sangerdesantos1 used to be pedroorange, its all a bit weird to be honest. Though strangely addictive! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
All these yams are spouting rubbish at us like they've had some kind of victory against us. No yams, you haven't. In reality your decent into admin has been nothing at all to do with Hibs.It was your own doing. Enjoy the championship.
Exactly. The fault is all their own. Thats who pointing the finger at and rejoicing in the fact that they will be playing lower league football for the next few years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Best post on this entire threadQuote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
Na. The best post on the thread was the post someone put the link up the day they went into admin. What a day that was.Quote:
Originally Posted by GlenrothesHibee
Certainly had me hooked for a while Am hoping today brings more clarity about the new details that have been agreed in the updated memorandum of Understanding that hasn't yet been rubber stamped but now has two green lights and the backing of all those Politicians . havent looked at papers yet as they were so up themselves with positivity yesterday there is no point in looking for any objectivity there .Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
It's been a blast and maybe the fat lady hasn't started her Aria but she's still waiting in the wing practising her scales. Yams, this ain't over YET! There's more pain to come.
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Originally Posted by Hiberlin
such as?
i'd say shedding the debt they have (best part of 70M), 1 season out the top league (we may follow suit & not get back to top league ourselves for 2 years) and come back in better financial state than other clubs, is a pretty good outcome.
all this pain & hearts never being good again stuff, sounds good, but I just dont buy it though.
How do you know they will only spend one season out of the top league? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Then we might get relegated and not get back into the top league for two seasons? :confused:
You need to cheer up.
At least a season (maybe several) in the lower leagues and a level playing field from now on. I would have taken that this time last year. Me personally am miffed that their financial doping probably cost us a scottish cup. They wouldn't have got there in 2006 paying normal rates.
This rivalry is as poisonous as i've ever known it now.
Try putting your hatred of hearts to one side and letting your love of Hibernian rule your head for a day or two. You will feel much better. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
I'm afraid, you're the only one who's going to feel more pain if you keep torturing yourself with the vain hope that they could yet come unstuck. A soothing tonic of a revived Hibs team in the next five games and the flatness ('tho they won't admit it) and anti-climax that hits them when the reality of playing with the other minnows sinks in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
I will try mate :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
A Hibs win and SPL safety ASAP, would be nice.
Re. others above; I think they will get back up 1st time, they'll have good crowds & be still in a position to afford better players than others (bar their big cousins).... and let's not pretend that's a strong league, they'll come back up via the play offs.
For what its worth -
Friend / Colleague of mine is a tynecastle season ticket holder, but dont hold that against him, actually a decent guy. Loves to beat us of course, but not stupid enough to think that their financial rollercoaster was consequence free.
Oddly enough, he knows I Am an MP personally too - but had no more inside info than anything on this board. Indeed, Murray told him the same as some of the guys on here, i.e. it was pretty touch and go for a while.
So the mood among sensible people like him yesterday was not "get it right up ye hibees", more relief that his team was still there for him to support.
He said this on thursday:
- They spent money they didnt have
- They stiffed lots of businesses out of money and in among the glee and euphoria this has been forgotten
- The hard work now begins - and Murray also said privately that this is just the start
- They will be skint for years, it is vital that they re-sign some of those promising youngsters
- DDs will provide some cash, but not being in the top div is a huge financial blow
- 2 seasons in the first div (I'm no calling it a championship) is reaslistic
- H
e also laughed and said there is chat about re-signing skacel, something he thinks is daft, but will galvanise fans
Final point, him and I have debated football - to paraphrase (me - how they cheated their way through last 25 years) (him - we are a bunch of underachieving losers) - but all in a decent style.
Neither of us gives it the big one after a derby win - as we know the shoe will shortly be on the other foot.
I reckon that he is representative of the non-kickback / EEN commentators hearts fans - and if that is the case, they know full well and are expecting this to be a very, very tough few years. They may have good season ticket sales next year, but unless those daft laddies accept the £40K PA wages on offer, they may struggle big time to return to the top flight.
........of course, if The Huns go bust again next year??????
Sighthill actually. Where it says Paris there, that's just pixels, like most things on here.Quote:
Originally Posted by ehf
:top marksTime to focus on us getting better and moving on, that lot are not worth the time of day, onwards and upwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Level headed post. The only thing I disagree with is that they will remain 'skint' for any length of time. Once their safety is beyond doubt, there will be a few wealthy punters queuing up to swell the funds ( I'm not sure how this would sit with Budge's business plan and the eventual 'fan ownership' ideal, but I think ways will be found to let others join the party) so I don't think lack of cash will be an issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Take it you weren't at that game. Anybody would have beaten us that day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
May be the case but where were these wealthy Jambos the last twice they were looking for investment? I think there are about as many wealthy Jambos as Hibbys and they have been lucky to unearth the Purple One.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
God knows what we will do once STF is no longer around.
When it was looking like they were heading for liquidation he was nowhere to be seen & keeping his head down. Politicians like him make me want to puke. Pass the sick bag.Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinMike
Totally agree. They won't be skint at all, far from it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Still, if cash is thrown at them - and they pay their taxes, their rates, even their players and all other service providers on time, every time - then people can throw whatever money they want at them.
I find it disgusting that a club can actually get away with what they've done, for years upon years.
Not paying your own fking council, for your own training facilities, robbing your own designated charities, screwing HMC&E, and well, we know the rest -
There should be tighter rules, regulation and fair play put in place - a long time ago.
SFA/SPL/FIFA; someone somehow should have never have let a poky wee scottish club ***** the best part of 70M away.
the fact only hibs.net seems to care and know about the whole cheating history, says more for our general public in Scotland. Even some hearts fans themselves, don't even know much about the companies they've screwed.
the mind boggles.
I think this makes sense, but ironically a few cash rich yammish joining the party would be interesting.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
The 400,000 did part with their money rather easily when vlad was filling the car boot for his escape fund so FOH, having soaked them again under the banner of "fan ownership" only have to respin it again - presumably the favoured few who cough up the cash will be "fans" in some shape or form - bingo - fan ownership............Simples.
Ah, that makes me nostalgic. Dryburys were never much of a brewery, but their sponsorship of football and cultural events, like the jazz festival should be applauded.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
Forgive me, my memory is not what it was. Have we not won the League Cup three times? I'd have thought EVERY Hibs supporter would know that.
And every Hearts supporter would have known that they won the SC 3 times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Still, I've already established that his arithmetic is, um, skewed.
#1+5=70m.
I was at the game. I try not to think about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Maybe they were put off by having to clear the debt? As for us, we have no option but to live within our means - its the only way to survive in the modern game, I'd have thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Pity the Hibs team weren't there. Still, at least we have the compensation of knowing that Hearts spent much more than they needed to. The result being, they ended up skint, and in Division One for the foreseeable future.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
If only I could believe that. Sigh.
Oh they'll come back alright, but they now have to play within their means and even below their potential for several years. They might avoid liquidation, they might not but they can't avoid the mess they're still in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
They've got a whole generation of fans who believe they can spend spend spend who'll have to come to terms with the fact that they need to save save save and all the time the fans will have to continue to pay pay pay. It's not long before those same fans will be asking why am I paying for this crap and that's when the infighting begins.Tincastle won't be a fun place to be for a while yet
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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Apart from having politicians inviting money launderers in to run your club into the ground then having the same politicians grub your way out of the inevitable insolvency, your right.
You start to think is it just coincidence that the play off were introduced when they were as it was clear hearts were going into administration and Sevco were on there way to buying and overspending thier way back into the top league So how convenient is it that they are both in the championship next season and both could come up .Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Love the fact in the Dailly Record today on the hotline hearts fans not only have themselves back up in a season and debt free but challenging Celtic .Not a mention of how they got into the mess they did and how others have lost out financially .It just shows that there is no remorse and the gloat fest has begun already .
I really do hope we beat them in the Derby and put them in thier place as nothing but us beating them will do this .
I do hope the Budgie gets off that perch of hers and makes a media statement when the rubber stamp finally gives al this the sign of approval .In this she should clearly lay out the Wrongs and make it clear what the level of Financial mismanagement was and set out clearly and Transparently how the club will be run over next few years .
Anything short of this just rubs salt into the wounds of those who didn't get their money .
Sevco now know they have Competition and will be interesting to see wages on offer at both clubs .
I am not sure lessons have been learnt from Sevco debacle as it seems to me it's all self congratulatory slaps on the back all round and makiing it clear they are back and will be biggest and best team in the Capitol etc.
so if that can't be used by Butcher as motivation for players then nothing will .
Oh well, back on Planet Earth, I suppose we just have to get on with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
If so, I hope all-concerned at ER use this to galvanise current/future players as they do at the PBS - sick of losing games we SHOULD'VE won because 'their players wanted it more' !Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
Spot-on - and going by the comments coming out of the PBS since their 'Great Escape', the muppet-mentality is STILL alive and kicking - totally incapable of learning absolutely SFA !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
They still have 10% to go and it seems to be the hardest bit the rumours of unrest among the UBIG Creditors could still scupper things before the 27th April fingers crossed.
What rumours are these?Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
What rumours and from who had enough of these claimsQuote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
its done and dusted live with it
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It was on the radio said there was unrest with some of the UBIG Creditors who wanted more money for the 50% and that they can still object during the cooling off period so not done and dusted yet.
Ok radio gaga was itQuote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
It'll just take a wee intervention from Salmond to sort that out.peeing against the wind. The yams are above justice.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
Given your previous, I'll wait for someone else to say it, thanks.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
It was said at the time of the agreement to transfer the 50% shareholding that the decision wasn't made unanimously.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Sadly what I describe happened on Planet Earth.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
This I know, but that doesn't mean that the vote won't be respected.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
I'm moaning about the source, of course. :wink:
Who was the source? or have I gone hook, line and sinker?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
The poster who claimed there was unrest.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Ever get that horrible feeling when you wake up and realise something did happen, and that you didn't dream it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Sorry, but that is just playing on words. Given what they were told about the true value of the PBS, it would be amazing if the decision was unanimous. Everybody knows there's a cooling off period, but it would have been real folly to make thus weeks announcement if there was a significant chance of the deal getting blocked.Quote:
Originally Posted by stevejordan
No, let the Yams celebrate escaping the chair - but the reality of life imprisonment awaits those cheating conniving no-marks. I know you will agree with those sentiments.
Honest
I posted a link to a BBC article last night which mentioned that the FOH have to hand over 1 million as soon as the deal is done and then 1.2 million for the next two seasons just to pay back the budgie wuman, hope the fans are ready for this as i can see the DD"s dropping once the deal is done.
That's it folks...get another dose of false hope based on a wild forum post on the internet. We've never done that before.
It was far from wild hope. It nearly happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_ginger_hibee
It's more than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
That money is just for working capital. The £2.5m for the club needs to be repaid on top of that.
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3668500
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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
Is that the actual true value your talking about or the manufactured "true value" brought into being by the council selling off the Tynie school land at a ludicrously low price.
Yep, the FOH pay £1m immediately, then £1.4m per year for "at least" 2 years as "working capital" and then still have to pay back the budgie her £2.5m over a period of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
So....assuming they can raise the £2.5 on top of the working capital, the minimum the FOH need to shell out is £6.3m by start of year 3?
Even the Jambo's article states that they need to understand that its £6m over 5 years to be raised. What it doesn't say is that the working capital requirement doesn't go away - they need that on top of the budgie money I imagine.
So, as stated many times, they won't have the cash to splash - on anything - for 3 years minimum IMO.
If any of these young players have the option to go elsewhere for more money or a higher standard of league then they should not sign for Hearts. The abuse which has been dished out on them has been awful considering the slashed wages they have been playing for. They should not damage their careers and potential wages for a cheating club (owned by one of the richest in Britain) and a poisonous support. The lesser talents should obviously sign for them if that is their best option, but I hope the good players will find better opportunities than pulling on a cheat's shirt. They have performed admirably in difficult circumstances and under a hail of abuse and criticism, but they should be careful not to jump from the frying pan into the fire and sign for THE rangers. Hopefully they will get good mentoring from somewhere and leave the cheats.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
There can only be one true value, as far as I can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Interesting, has fatty Murray came out and said how much £££ FoH have at present?
Are you suggesting he's going to show up with a suitcase full of Monopoly money?Quote:
Originally Posted by EK_Hibs
It's a business plan with some pretty Big holes in it. Budgie may urge restraint, but the punters putting up the working capital for her to play with will want to see a return to the SPFL at the first attempt. They'd better hope Potter is on it from day one.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Mind you, if Sally stays at Der Newco they won't be a shoe in for the title.
It never happened though. Might have been close (do we really know how close given Jackson's posturing/manipulating?) and it was enjoyable, but this forums predictions/inside knowledge/sources were wrong in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
If people want to cling onto stevejordons or anyone else's 'Its no over' then fair enough...enjoy.
People should embrace Hearts and their 'new era' - a bunch of soulless cardigans wandering about Gorgie debating about which member gets the best parking space. Sheikh Mansour comes to Edinburgh it is not...
It's an interesting model.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
On one hand, it gives them an additional £1m over what they would have through "normal" trading. That has to be good for them, on the face of things.
On the other, though, that statement says "It is intended that the Foundation will sign a legally binding agreement on behalf of the supporters". That could be a real problem. What happens if they don't pay the first £1.4m, or the second? Is the deal off? In my mind, that would reduce them to real self-sustainability, without the extra edge that I mentioned above.
I don't see anybody doing that. He's been called out enough times, on a variety of things, for anybody sensible to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_ginger_hibee
Wrong, but hardly crazy. Remember they were saying it was going to be over by the start of the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by the_ginger_hibee
We were given informed and accurate opinions and information all along. Who knows, maybe it was this that led to the cloak and dagger stuff at the end?
I never said the speculation was crazy or wild..I called the latest post wild. I just called it false hope, which unfortunately it was in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls