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There's a thread on the holy ground forum for debating politics, please keep this one on the jambogeddon topic.
Thanks.
The pwicks have spoken :greengrin quite agree though
At the end of the day we have prominent "better together" types giving it the pro-Jambo angle (Fatty Foulkes, anyone) and now a prominent Indy type giving it the pro-Jambo angle. Not to mention FoH being chaired by a pro-Unionist.
In summation, there's Yams in all walks of political life with differing political views. If you end up voting against a Yam you'll end up voting with another one. Life's too short to base your politics on football (or indeed your football on politics), if only Old Firm fans realised this!
Can we just get back to how gubbed the Jambos are now, please? It's most entertaining.
Are they deid yet
No quite but I've made this for when they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Reaper
has there been any information, movement today as not heard anything waiting for the big L.
Commercial banks create the money out of thin air to lend to the government and then charge interest that is paid by our taxes. It's a silly little scam that few are able to grasp. Apparently, the oligarchs who own the commercial banks are more to be trusted with the creation of money than our elected officials (who bailed them out with our future taxes). :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
Can anyone tell me how long champagne should be in the fridge before serving? I don't want to get caught out.
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Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Is that the infamous rubber stamp? The Yams are in for a mighty disappointment if so.
I'm afraid hes correct though. If Westminster cut nhs spending then that percentage of health spending is also cut from the money the Scottish government receives for the same thing. Would rather stay on topic though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
Looks like a bit of lip service by AS to me. Not much to get bothered about but if thats what convinces someone to vote no and not imanMp or unelected pishy breeks peers then the argument is disingenuous to begin with.
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No offence mate but are you seriously trying to slide into the CWG, Caversham , Greenginger and Sergey effort ?Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Again , no offence intended but the only person who seems to agree with you is you :greengrin
Bingo.Quote:
Originally Posted by EuanH78
You know AS has no influence on the Ukio creditors, I know it, AS knows it, BDO know it, Ukio know it. This is a "I'm being seen to do something" and naff all else.
Indeed. And when you see what he's swapped for.... Hubba Hubba!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
:agree: Desantos is also the only person who thinks there was a UKIO meeting scheduled for 28 March. After the " non meeting " BDO confirmed it had never been scheduled, incredibly even Banderson finally got that one right. There was a famous story about Lester Piggott. As he rode his horse to the start punters would shout, are you going to win today & he would reply, he's a cert. Down at the start when asked he would reply, no chance. Lester went by the theory that the info he gave 50% of the people would be correct & they would remember that more clearly than those who got the duff info. Fortune tellers/psychics etc work along the same lines & so I believe does Desantos given his recurring contradictions of himself! Still, its all great fun!Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
Probably but it needs to be maintained for local people.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Good point well made. So, he finds the time to help those clubs who have ripped people off, screwed other teams, and has personally celebrated a period of Yam success based purely on stolen money. Classy.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenLake
Can we not just talk about the demise of the Yams instead of all this political sh*te?
:confused:
Folks I know Alex Salmond / Ima MP and Lord George started mixing politics with football but I'd be in favour of the mods moving the 'which yam politician do you hate most and should that influence our votes ? And PS how do you spoil a ballot' posts to another thread somewhere else ...
Very much this:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnrebus
It should be in the fridge for 8 hours at least, although half an hour in a full ice bucket will do the same thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seveno
Interestingly, you should always drink champagne within 2 - 3 years of buying it.
Yes, let's get back on track. Politics has no place on this thread, unless its an in-depth discussion of the changing texture and colour of the stained areas on George Foulkes's trousers regarding various decisions and non-decisions relating to the CVA.Quote:
Originally Posted by johnrebus
Whatever you do, DO NOT mix up your champagne with your shares, and keep it out the freezer.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Thought you were going to say, 'do not get your champagne mixed up with the pish on Lord Fud's troosers.....'
Glad you didn't though.
:greengrin
Surprised no-one had mentioned the fact that Hibs are so gash, we don't have anyone remotely close to being first minister. Maybe if Petrie.......etc. etc. etc.
Not having anyone involved high up in that grubby little industry shows true class imho.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
They are still not Demised ,so politics is a wee sidetrack to keep us occupied while the decision makers procrastinate .The longer they do this ,the more likely you are to see the Demise of Hearts come to fruition so Politics like it or not has a wee part to play in this scenario .:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by johnrebus
Ive had threads confined to the Holy Ground that have been less political than this. Yet another example of the pro admin hedgemony and its lickspittle running dogs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
OK, Yes I can see that Yes politics shouldn't Yes be on this board and Yes, we are all Yes frustrated by threads Yes going off topic, so let's continue Yes to keep this to all things Hearts.
Yes?
:greengrin
Thanks, I'll get it in the fridge as soon as I get home. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod
Still no meeting planned then?
:-)
At what time should you drink it ? 07:00, 19:02, 06:02 ... On second thoughts off to buy a new fridge and check my holiday entitlement !Quote:
Originally Posted by Seveno
A bit unfair on we Hibbies who want to see capitalism liquidated, but humbly accept that Yamageddon is a realistic and acceptable alternative, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by johnrebus
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STV news reported that UBIG are to meet later this week. Sounded like a crock to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The earliest is tomorrow.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I can exclusively reveal that it might not potentially happen, Lithuania is out of rubber stamps.
Considering that absolutely **** all has happened this week, there's been a lot of activity on this thread.
If it doesn't happen tomorrow the earliest is the next day... I've been onto my contact in Lithuania but they are unable as yet to fly round the world superman stylee to reverse time this is the best they can do... To be fair Lord Foulkes volunteered but on consideration what the image of him wearing his pants outside his trousers would do the 'famous' image this was respectively declined ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
Except fat ugly puss made a reverse charge phone call to lithland, not much else happening otherwise,Quote:
Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital
Jackson ready to hop on a flight back though, lol
NoQuote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sauzee
Ubig? You sure?
Brilliant. I'm going to take this mate...Quote:
Originally Posted by HFCDaveA
The 2-3 year thing is generally for non-vintage champagne. Your Dom Perignon etc. will last longer if properly cellared.Quote:
Originally Posted by SuperAllyMcleod
UBIG have already approved their part of the CVA. No reason for them to meet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
I guess it is a reason to splash out.Quote:
Originally Posted by haagsehibby
Im afraid I'm not sure. I was half listening to the news, and half heard them say something about a creditors meeting this week to approve the transfer of shares. Sorry, that information is useless I know, but there was definitely something about a meeting this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Thought something might have happened with there being 4 new pages, but nope, just mouth breathers getting angry about Salmond.
As an aside, can we please keep Big L out of this? He deserves to RIP.
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No.... Maybe.... Yes....Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser_Sauzee
Procrastination comes before liquidation, except in the dictionary
Procrastination, more after the break
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Originally Posted by Antwerphibs
Exactly, Antwerp!
Crikey, men always say women gas on and waste time but, give me strength, nothing can beat this! :thumbsup:
Complete non-event and waste of time for the past few pages!
I'd LOVE to be a major UKIOS creditor right now. "Next week...can't do that as I'm planting my bulbs for next year...the week after I'm taking the dog to the vet for a minor operation, and painting the bathroom...the week after that...hmm... I sure I promised the kids Eurodisney...what about never? Does never work for you guys?"
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Originally Posted by CB_NO3
I think they will have another thousand reasons to meet, none of them as insignificant as dealing with a grubby little corrupt football team in Scotchland. :wink:
No worries on that score, the 3 "newer" stands were specifically engineered to allow for easy dismantling at some point in the future.... I can't remember if the idea was for the Yams to re-use the steels at a new site or if the intention was to sell the stands on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Russian Hibs
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Originally Posted by HFCDaveA
Couldn't have put it better myself. I know folk are frustrated with the political references here but I find it hard to ignore it. I couldn't care less about the 'independence' issue but I am sickened by the immorality, verging on criminal negligence of this despicable being, for exactly the reasons outlined above.
Agreed. On the taxpayers dime he is spending his time supporting an organisation that has ripped off his government and one of his local authorities...somewhat ironic.Quote:
Originally Posted by TRC
He is however well suited to being one of them, no concept of money, more pipe dreams than you can shake a stick at and facts are irrelevant to him. Would not surprise me if he ran round holyrood referring to them as the "big team" of scottish politics.
.....and they call us gypsies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Just Alf
What a cranky bunch.
"What do we want?!"Quote:
Originally Posted by oregonhibby
"PROCRASTINATION!"
"When do we want it?!"
"NEXT WEEK!"
I just want them to get wants coming to them and to pay for the years of living beyond their means, champagne is ready, we will have the last laugh! big L is getting closer..
before anymore is said about the current First Minister of Scotland, he has a duty to try and "save" another fitba' club from going down the tubes. this is not the way I want it to happen, but he does have a "duty" to try and retrieve a bad situation for Scottish Football. he did exactly the same, while trying to do it for 2 other football clubs. he does happen to be a "fan" of the current Scottish club in crisis. I hope any effort he makes,fails miserably. despite his allegiance to another team, I will retain my views on being vehemently involved and committed to an Independent Scottish State, which hopefully will, in my lifetime return to the socialist values I was brought up with and still hold. the current First Minister will not be in the grand plan of things,IMHO. and hopefully the likes of who consisted of the Edinburgh Council dominated by Councillors who aligned themselves with jambo thinking businessmen, (because of the team they supported) will not be in those positions either. those were the people that gave free reign, to hmfc, and "used" a whole end of tynecastle for storage, on behalf of the council. an end which was never used for storage, but prevented demololition, and secured monies for that club.those were the men that stopped Farmer, from building on the butterfly section of Easter Road, thereby slowing the completion of our ground. those were the men , pictured while drinking buckfast when the hmfc celebrated winning cups outside the city chambers. those same men are the ones that try and tell the people of Scotland that we are better together.and Foulkes is one of themQuote:
Originally Posted by Albion Hibs
you stopped short of using the word "scaremongering"!! This political chat is boring me. If the tubby yam spent as much time as this on every business in Scotland that was struggling, this country would be a better place...but he has not. He has however done it for hearts. What you want from a government does not really bother me, as a hibs fan and a council tax payer I am bothered by how are so called FM has used the time which I am paying for, as a council supporting, hibs supporting person. As both of these things I also lost out when they cheated financially to gain as a football team, and i don't support that.Quote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
Thanks for that non political slant on this tedious distraction. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Albion Hibs
So no meeting today then?
Given Catholicism is pretty big in Lithuania* I would assume they will have a shut down for Easter so unless there is a meeting tomorrow** I would guess it will be next week at the earliest. Getting quite close to the end of april. :greengrin
*According to Wikipedia, I have no insiders in the Lithuanian church
**highly ****ing unlikely
I thought we were going to stop all this political talk on here ?, plenty of other forums for that kind of thing. Still no news from Lithuania and a wee quote from the Hootsmans article this morning "Salmond, a Hearts supporter, remains hopeful that the deal can be completed, although last night both club administrator Bryan Jackson of BDO and a spokesperson for the Foundation of Hearts said there had been no further developments."
Good, lets hope it stays that way.
Judging by the state of them, they're doing a good job of dismantling themselvesQuote:
Originally Posted by Just Alf
This story started out as him jetting off to Lithuania to sort it out didn't it. In reality though it turns out that all he did was make a wee phone call to the Lithuanian ambassador. Might it be possible that he made this phone call on his down time, or does he not get any of that on the wage you pay him? You're a hard task master.Quote:
Originally Posted by Albion Hibs
The more Political Interferance the more they then need to further Procastinate and then Ruminate .its just now adding to the delay Yes we are heading for Easter Time , so I guess the Politiicians are just trying to Egg them on into making a decision .But Inertia seems to be the name of the game just now .Presumably someone has told the Liths that there is a date by which a meeting needs to take place that would be interesting to know what that date is as think the Liths are enjoying all this attention and will take it right to the wire But at some point a date will pass that sees the Big L a mere formality .Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
You would of thought all this would of been in that Memorandum of Understanding which appears not to have been a shared understanding by all parties after all .
It's an interesting Polemic Juxtaposition ,can't understand why folk find it Tedious :wink:
If the ukio vote does pass, will that be BDOs involvement finished? Even if the courts wont unfreeze the shares?
If he possibly intervened, say as an individual in his ' down time', why then splash it over the national press? And before we get the 'keep politics out of this debate', I would say that his involvement is very relevant to this thread. If and when we learn that his contribution to their cause was instrumental in it's success, I'm sure there will be no objections to heated debate about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
it could be their final pay day today
Because he's a jambo and wants to be seen as having tried. The fact that they have felt the need to ask him to do this is surely suggestive that all is indeed not well as far as FOH/BDO are concerned. If anything it's a positive sign for those that want them dead that he has felt the need to intervene. IMO he will have no real influence in the process, if they finally get their CVA agreed it will be down to many other factors and not Alex Salmond.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Because sensationalism is what they do? :dunno: Imagine them blowing anything out of proportion and making it in tae a big story, that would never happen. :rolleyes: particularly as none of them have ever reported honestly on this story, only good news stories and cheer leading and how they are the poor wee victims and the bad man did it and ran away. Most of what they have reported has subsequently turned out tae be a lot of complete and utter load of tosh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Ukio: creditors wake from their slumber and get up and have breakfast
allisbarry: deal just needs rubber stamped.
now can we keep on topic?
His involvement is, the referendum is not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Hilarious how the national press are still reporting that Ukio meeting could take place this week. Even some saying Friday. Yesterday’s investigations here clearly showed that meeting needs ten day notice to the creditors and must be posted by the court in Lithuania. I assume this has to be made public by the court?
Maybe so but every mention of it drags other issues in tae it which are not because some people cannae help themselves, and quite frankly it has spoiled and is spoiling what has so far been a fun thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
I'm not convinced we can put much faith in the notice periods as they seem to ignore them anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sanger
There's some pretty breathtaking hypocrisy on here of late.
In a democracy, the last time I checked, you are entitled to vote and to do so for whatever motivation propels you. If you want to vote Yes or No in a Referendum on account of anything at all you can and should do so. I don't like that particularly, but it is your right.
Anyone who thinks that politics should be kept out of this discussion, or has nothing to do with the subject matter, is being extremely naive. A judicial process is being pursued by the various parties and it is subject to political pressure on a number of sides. The fact that the man who is currently First Minister of Scotland has volunteered himself into the public eye on this one simply brings the politics into sharper focus. The politics of all this isn't just a legitimate subject for this debate and this thread, it is an essential part of it.
We have a range of posters on this thread asking that Referendum/Salmond related political points be posted elsewhere rather than this thread. That's pretty ironic given the number of posters who are posting all over the thread with 'Yes' avatars and/or adverts on all of their posts. Added to which if people are genuinely reconsidering their voting intentions on the Referendum/Salmond due to his intervention in this matter then that surely becomes a legitimate part of the discussion, regardless of whether you think it is sensible of them to base their vote on such an issue?
For my part I am voting No and was always going to do so. That's because of the many £billions deficit that independence would demonstrably cause us and which will certainly require massive cuts in public services like the NHS, education and benefits - way beyond anything coming from Westminster.
So on Salmond intervening with the Lithuanians I think that if he was going to do it he should have done it quietly without announcing it, if at all. That's not really his style though is it? I think it would have been more legitimate of him to have done this if we had also heard him using the office of First Minister to publicly call for an investigation into what has been going on at Hearts over the last few years or indeed calling for action by the appropriate authorities against Romanov. Perhaps he has done so and I missed it.
Anyway, my main interest here is for this CVA stuff and the Referendum to both just be over. They have both sucked too much time and energy from far more important things that really matter and given too much prominence to people and institutions who were already sufficiently self-obsessed.
I thought we were keeping this political ***** off here?Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
If the UKIO vote passes the CVA, BDO's involvement lasts as long as the CVA takes to complete.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
If it doesn't, and/or HMFC go into liquidation, BDO's involvement continues, as liquidator.
I'm voting for the Greens in the referendum election thingy.
:top marks:top marksMy thoughts as well so where do we go from here, maybe the politics thing will die a death like the jambos ?.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
New thread started titled Alex Salmond. Please go away old chap with all that crap that has nothing to do with this thread
Tut tut, language Timothy !.Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas
You're a sensitive soul and your other thread doesn't have any proposed context at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas
Given that Salmond, Foulkes and that MP guy have all got involved in this individually it is hard to disentangle politics from this.
However if you are going to post anything that is only concerned with the referendum could you please do it on the thread in the Holy Ground. It's much more fun kicking the Yams than each other. :greengrin
There seems to be double standards by many as several people are bringing politics onto this message board on a daily basis with their profile pictures and signatures about the up coming referendum.Quote:
Originally Posted by HappyAsHellas
Surely a board wide ban of this would make a fair game?
Regarding the yams and Salmond people can say they don't want to read it or be involved in it but its ignoring the way which he is acting.
Yam or not I would be asking questions with his involvement as I am yet to see any clear evidence he supported other clubs in bad financial problems. Don't forget these clubs usually bring it upon themselves.
it makes it worse here as he clearly states who he supports and was even seen in pictures such as the cup final lapping it up and now he expects it all to be fixed as if no harm was done to local businesses.
if he actually did something worthwhile like helping the local businesses who lost money he would get much more credit - instead he's going to try to come out looking like a savior and again shows the yams class - sell their soul to get a result.
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Originally Posted by marinello59
Sound good, are they not dead yet. I wonder if Sergey has any updates on developments ?.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Share sale by UKIO approved by Creditors meeting
@BBCBMcLauchlin: A meeting of the creditors committee of Ukio Bankas has now approved the sale of the shares held in Hearts.#bbcsportscot
That was a tad unexpected.
So, If Hawrts are liquidated, do the authorities break all the rules - as with Sevo - and they are in League Two?
Or, is it a trawl around Gretna 2008, Rosewell and Stirling University?
:confused:
Has to be Salmonds involvement.
Quite happy tae remove mine, it was always my intention tae keep it off here but when I saw another user with better together in his sig then I thought what the ****, I'm having mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenStar
As I say quite happy tae remove any political reference from my avatar/signature if all are removed.
Edit: In fact I'll start lets, see if other follow? If they dinnae....
Bugger.
Down to the freezer test im guessing now?
Now I guess we find out if they're still frozen...
I suppose we can mention Salmond without getting bogged down in the referendum debate after all we have a go at Foulkes and Cardownie for being yams.
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Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Good post mate, I won't be voting for obvious reasons but just as iamanmp murray has been fair game on here since he propelled himself into the limelight I do feel Salmond is the other cheek of the same erse so to speak.
The fact that he is one of them and at the same time is a political figure and the front man for the yes campaign makes it difficult to separate the three things out in my opinion.
For example would he have anything special to bring to the table with the Liths if he wasn't the political figure that he is? Arguably his profile is higher because he does court a lot of publicity so when the whiff of intervention on behalf of the yam is suggested it can only be linked to what he does for a living and how he does it. The role he was elected to fulfil has the added perk of perceived personal influence.
As to how much attention they will pay to him I am not convinced it will be much at all - they might be astute enough to wonder about his silence whilst it was all going on on his own doorstep and wonder why his government took no action, or at least used the same channels they might be using now to tip the Liths off bearing in mind who the real losers ultimately were?
I can see the point about the political use of this type of thread but irrespective of the points made here, the die was cast a while ago when the pro independence stuff you mention started appearing without attracting much attention. For what its worth I have no problem with this however on all yam matters once a politico has decided to reflect in the glory by getting involved they are fair game for those who don't agree with their judgement - Politicians usually know what they are doing even if they can't see too far ahead and usually end up trying to distance themselves from their original involvement.
BBCBMcLauchlin @BBCBMcLauchlin 5m BDO will now finalise the deal and prepare for the handover over of Hearts to Ann Budge#bbcsportscot
If it's true then it's been fun while it lasted, sales of new underwear will drop in Gorgie !.
some folk cannae though, they've got tae get their dig in. I've slagged pishy breeks, cardownie, salmond and the MP, nowt tae dae with politics thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
so either BBC are way off or our in the know guys knew nowt?? :confused: