Come on Slovakia and Sweden then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
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Come on Slovakia and Sweden then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Aye! They'll not both come off, though. Almost wish we'd got beat last night, I hate being killed by hope!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
He needs to be to keep Zibi out the team...Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
We need to win against Croatia as even a draw will see us finishing fourth. If we can do that then the best case scenario for us in the other games would be:
Switzerland not to win against Turkey
Belgium to beat Finland
Ukraine or Austria to win their game outright
France to beat Portugal
Poland not to win against Sweden
Get those results and we will be in the top 4 third place finishers
My predictions for the other groups;Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Group A
Switzerland to finish 3rd on 4 points.
Group B
Finland to finish 3rd on 3 points.
Group C
Austria to finish 3rd on 4 points.
Group E
Slovakia to finish 3rd on 3 points.
Group F
Portugal to finish 3rd on 3 points.
I'm still very confident that a win on Tuesday takes Scotland through.
No, just get any two of those five highly likely scenarios in the bag and that’s enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyJo
Group A
Switzerland 1 pt v Turkey 0 pts
Group B
Finland 3 pts v Belgium 6 pts
Group C
Ukraine 3 pts v Austria 3 pts
Group E
Slovakia 3 pts v Spain 2 pts
Sweden 4 pts v Poland 1 pt
Group F
Germany 3 pts v Hungary 1 pt
Portugal 3 pts v France 4 pts
So we only need two of them to happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyJo
Belgium plus at least one other will happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by MyJo
However, the difficult bit is Scotland winning.
A good summary. Scotland are better in these games when can sit in and also break out much more difficult when we are on the front foot. Good thing imo for Tuesday is Croatia need a win also. They aren't as strong but still have loads of quality and will be a very difficult game no doubt.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lancs Harp
I think your predictions are how I see these games going.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
:agree: I'd say Belgium beating Finland and Sweden avoiding defeat v Poland represents Scotland's best chance of qualifying.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
A winner between Austria v Ukraine would also come in handy but I think that's a stick on for a draw.
Remember, we can still get 2nd place if we win, England lose and there's a decent swing in the goal differenceQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Okay it's unlikely, but how many goals would we need to beat Croatia by to finish 2nd if England were beaten 1-0 by the Czech Republic?
We'd need to score at least 3 and win by at least 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
If England lose 1-0, and we win 2-0, are we not through on goals scored?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby
Croatia are an amazing national football team and along with Uruguay and Wales have provided me with hope for some time that Scotland could put a good competitive team together despite our tiny population.
On Tuesday our team drawn from a population of 5.5 million people take on a team drawn from a population of 4 million so there are no excuses for losing despite what I said in my 1st paragraph :wink:.
It isn't insurmountable that we could beat Croatia, finish 3rd, and play group E winners Sweden at Hampden in the round of 16.
Then possibly England at Wembley in last 8Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Scotland are ranked 44th, Croatia are ranked 14th. Population size is pretty irrelevant.Quote:
Originally Posted by CMurdoch
Odd how two teams from the same group could meet before the final. I guess there are too many permutations in the mix to avoid it.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
:agree: the addition of the 3rd place team made that inevitable. It’s good for Scotland obviously, but I don’t really like that 16/24 qualify for the second round. It devalues the achievement a bit. I’d rather they expanded to 32 and made it a simple top two go through structure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
https://www.espn.co.uk/football/uefa...mpression=true
A handy break down of what each team needs to do to qualify from their respective groups.
GROUP D
June 22: Croatia vs. Scotland, Czech Republic vs. England (9 p.m. CET, 3 p.m. ET)
Czech Republic: Need a point to qualify which will secure top spot in the group. Can only finish third in the group if they lose and Croatia win and finish above them on overall goal difference.
England: Also need a point to be sure of going through, but must win to top the group. Will also qualify with a defeat if Scotland do not win to better their goal difference, and even then four points should be enough to qualify in third.
Croatia: Only hope of finishing second is if they beat Scotland, Czech Republic lose and they finish with better goal difference. But a win is almost certain to take them through in third on four points anyway.
Scotland: Must win but England must lose, and Scotland better the overall goal difference, to take second. Again, a win would almost certain take them through in third.
So we are making it to the semi finals at least 🤣Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Where do we need to be, to play a last 16 game, which is getting played at Hampden
Whilst I would ordinarily agree, there's barely more than 32 countries in Europe. Qualifying would be pretty boring.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
We don't need to better the overall gd to finish 2nd---we can go thru on goals scored, although we'd have to score minimum 2 goals. What happens if we end up with identical records, and the 3rd place team doesnt qualify from our group---drawing of lots?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
Agreed---and its bad enough when we're one of 30 teams that don't qualify, would be rather humiliating to be one of only 22:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius