I cannot fathom this at all. It’s like an optical illusion. Once it’s in your head that he’s wearing his trousers backwards that’s all you can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
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I cannot fathom this at all. It’s like an optical illusion. Once it’s in your head that he’s wearing his trousers backwards that’s all you can see.Quote:
Originally Posted by easty
He maybe got up in the morning and put the top half of his body on the wrong way round?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lendo
I mean it's possible, look what happened with the orange wavey thing on top of his head.
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Maybe he’s way ahead in the vanguard of fashion.
What else can you do when having a pee mistake just before going onstage :greengrin
Fake tho :-(
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Such a pity it is fake but it just shows how low my opinion of him is that it was definitely believableQuote:
Originally Posted by easty
Opinions aside, how can you believe anyone can put a pair of trousers on backwards :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by wookie70
I understand why you ask that, but you'd be surprised what people with mental illnesses do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
My wife worked at a medium secure unit and wearing clothes backward was one of the least bizarre things some of the patients got up to.
Also, another friend's wife works with autistic kids and she's known children who would insist on buttoning their shirts/blouses up the back.
Trump clearly has got issues with his mental health, but I doubt it's reached that stage...yet.
I know it's fake, but there was a suggestion (also fake) that he wears trousers with elasticated waist and no zip - they could easily be put on backwards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
...warned against illegal migration to the US, saying: "Do not come. Do not come. The United States will continue to enforce our laws and secure our borders."
"If you come to our border, you will be turned back."
No, not Trump, Kamala Harris this time, who still hasn't visited the border.
Just playing devil's advocate and genuinely interested to know why(if) this is any different to the language used by Trump and the Republicans?
Trump wanted to stop Mexicans, Muslims and anyone who wasn't white American coming into the US whether they were legal or illegal. This included genuine asylum seekers.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
Illegal immigration will be stopped by every government in the world and rightly so.
She's not talking about "sh#thole" countries, she's not calling all Mexicans rapists - talking about border control isn't racist the last time I checked. Unless its accompanied by the type of rhetoric Trump employed.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
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It has been condemned by the likes of AOC. Seeking asylum at the US border is a legal method.Quote:
Originally Posted by CloudSquall
I watched a documentary on PBS America yesterday, American Insurrection, scary stuff.
Trump didn't call ALL Mexicans rapists either, but I'm guessing you know that already.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
He was quite right in stating a large percentage of major crime is committed by illegal aliens in the country, something that the vast majority of Mexicans living LEGALLY in the USA agreed with.
When do we beat Mexico at the border? They're laughing at us, at our stupidity. And now they are beating us economically. They are not our friend, believe me. But they're killing us economically.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
The U.S. has become a dumping ground for everybody else's problems.
(APPLAUSE)
Thank you. It's true, and these are the best and the finest. When Mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. They're not sending you. They're not sending you. They're sending people that have lots of problems, and they're bringing those problems with us. They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people.
Ringing endorsement right enough [emoji23]
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Some things he said at rallies were a bit ott, his basic message was what I said.Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
So his basic message was not what he said himself but what you said? :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
What percentage of major crime is done by illegal immigrants would love to know. Surprised vast majority agreed with him as vast majority voted against himQuote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
I think you'll find he had a large Mexican and Black vote. I think you'll also find Obama was tough on the border issue as well but it seems to have been conveniently airbrushed by the loony left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Hilarious right enoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
:faf:
Trump got somewhere around 10% of the black vote and Biden around 90%. Larger than 2016 but not large.Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
Is that the loonies who stormed the Capitol building imagining there was going to be a revolution? Or the loonies who thought QAnon was going to unveil himself at Biden's inauguration, killing or arresting everyone present?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
Those loonies?
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A bit ott?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
So your saying the president of the US can say whatever aslong as you can decipher that into something less crass and less racist?
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Yeah the 'loony left' are the real bad guysQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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https://amp.theguardian.com/world/20...mpression=true
The loony left?
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Only a matter of time before the pee per video they have of Trump leaks (excuse the pun)Quote:
Originally Posted by Callum_62
Paywall 😢Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I’ll summarise; basically Trump has strengthened his power base in the GOP, if hes still alive in 2024 he’ll be the unopposed candidate and his agenda will be proper Turkey/Hungarian style full authoritarian rule. Also some unbelievable stats about faith/trust in democracy as an idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
****Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
The odious orange clown is now launching his own social media platform.... and calling it.... kid you not.... TRUTH social :clown:
https://eu.usatoday.com/story/news/n...an/6113559001/
If ever an idea captures Doublethink in Orwell's 1984 this is it!
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/w...52641.html?amp
In short….I hated him taking the mickey out of me so I will totally smear his name. What a ****bag Trump is.
Trump will get in again next time if he survives that long.
I think you could be right.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Extraordinary but probably true. Biden looks like he might struggle to serve one term, let alone two and as Lionel Shriver points out his veep comes across as 'an incompetent dolt'.Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...o-donald-trump
Shriver is a brexit loving racist so I can see how she would be more aligned with trump than kamalaQuote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
She has 'historically low approval ratings for a VP' is the current headline. Its 48%. Trumps is 37% so Fox should really calm down. Martin Luther King's was 33% when he was alive, it is now 79%. The lesson here is if Kamala wants to be popular, she needs to get shot and wait 50 years for all the racists to die off.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
Cortez apparently has a high approval rating among a certain demographic, so it might be an idea to put her forward as the next presidential candidate.
Where are you getting 48% from? All outlets are reporting it as being 28%.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Hard to take the Spectator seriously these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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You gov.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC_NYC
https://today.yougov.com/ratings/pol.../Democrats/all
Edit-actually, the matrix is 'Popularity' as opposed to 'Approval' which explains the different figure. Its still a relevant comparison though, as the figures for Trump, MLK, and the other figures i mentioned are correct and on the same matrix.
Capitol riot: 'QAnon Shaman' Jacob Chansley sentenced to 41 months in prison - BBC News
https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cp...1230733976.jpg
A prominent supporter of the baseless QAnon conspiracy has been sentenced to 41 months in prison for his involvement in the US Capitol riot.
Jacob Anthony Chansley was among the Trump supporters who tried to stop Congress from certifying the 2020 presidential election on 6 January.
He earlier pleaded guilty to one felony count of obstruction in an official proceeding.
His sentence is among the longest so far given in connection to the riots.
In addition to his prison sentence, Chansley was sentenced to 36 months of supervised release and must pay $100 (£74) in restitution.
The 34-year-old became one of the most recognisable figures from the siege after being pictured wearing horns and a bearskin headdress, with a US flag painted on his face. He referred to himself as "the QAnon Shaman".
Only 2 Republicans voted to censure Gozar for this.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/polit...e24_story.html
Quite incredible what’s happened to the GOP.
https://twitter.com/stevesilberman/s...yKZP0eRcQ&s=19
That would be criminal surely
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https://twitter.com/brianschatz/stat...1E_XxST-Q&s=19
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David Cay Johnston has been investigating Trump, particularly his finances, since the late 1980s. History will be astonished a person so unqualified and so criminal became president of the United States. Trump is a magnificent con man and the media didn't do its full diligence on him.
https://youtu.be/qM9Xndn5Gro
I read a book called The Plot Against America in about 2005 by Philip Roth which imagined Charles Lindbergh winning the Presidential election over Roosevelt in 1940 and America becoming a dictatorship. Its still weird to me how the writer managed to foretell lots of the things that were going to happen under Trump, without any knowledge of the future, by using historical fiction. Its such a strange book to read again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
It’s a TV series now as well. I think with Wynona Rider in it? Not sure what platform I watched it on but I enjoyed it.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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Have read most of his work Very talented writerQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
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Give it a bash, I absolutely loved it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
Aye have read that one One of a handful of writers that I have kept all thier books I have readQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Ian McEwan is another
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Donald was responsible for the Covid vaccine. He says...
https://twitter.com/i/status/1474024520721866789
https://twitter.com/AP/status/148368...HKqzU4NQg&s=19
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I agree. The cartoons aren't as funny either.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
At least one Trump is decent.
https://twitter.com/MaryLTrump/statu...pWc7G58Hg&s=19
Take a look at the troll's badge.
AOC says ten years.
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/...rtez-democracy
HBO did a mini-series of it a couple of years ago.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
Frightening how totally believable it was. Highly recommend it.
Thanks,Ozy mentioned that too, I’ll have a look.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
Thanks for the recommendation. Very different from the book but it’s excellent regardless. Turturro and Kazan (Herman’s wife) steal the show.Quote:
Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..
one day this fat lying orange man will end up in court
Jan. 6 panel missing roughly 8 hours of Trump's phone calls - ABC News (go.com)
Jan. 6 panel missing roughly 8 hours of Trump's phone calls
The House panel investigating the Jan. 6 Capitol insurrection has identified a roughly eight-hour gap in official records of then-President Donald Trump’s phone calls as the violence unfolded and his supporters stormed the building
Trump communicated with at least some lawmakers during the insurrection. He spoke, for example, with House Republican Leader Kevin McCarthy, who asked him to call off the mob, according to Republican Rep. Jaime Lynn Herrera Beutler of Washington state, who said McCarthy told her about the call.
She said in a statement, “That’s when, according to McCarthy, the president said, ‘Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are.’”
https://twitter.com/JuliaDavisNews/s...Q386O_oBQ&s=19
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Frightening ffsQuote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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We are all.. I mean..Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
They are all in it together.
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Is there any doubt that Trump is pro Putin and will be supporting him in the present conflict? The appeal to the Americans to get Russki Trump back into the White House is nauseating but the frightening thing is that his huge, idiotic, support will stick with Trump. You would have thought that compassion and support for Ukraine might make ‘Trumpets’ rethink their blind allegiance but I fear not. A Russian victory would see their man back in power, possibly before the next scheduled election. Thank God, Putin’s plans are not going as expected.
https://www.newsweek.com/us-military...nsiders-883947Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Trump bombed the sh*t out the Russians and Syrians for using chemical
weapons in the civil war. Does that seem the actions of a pro-Putin president.
Biden is scared to allow Poland to gift planes to the Ukrainians in case it upsets Vlad Putin.
Putin has financed and seduced right wing parties throughout the West. Most if not all the "anti-woke", disruptor, gaslighting, divisive parties have taken his shilling. Its a shake down of the highest order. When Nazi Germany wanted to spread their ideas they had to invade other countries to do it. Putin has already spread his ideas, plenty people agree with his guff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
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Trump left Syria to its fate, which was the Russians systematically demolishing swathes of the normal populations' livelihoods and homes.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Taking one incident in isolation, in which the US were bombing Syrians and Russians got in the way, doesn't really sum up Trumps relations with Russia and Putin over the last 10 years or so.
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If Trump bombed the Russians I think it shows he would take no crap from him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Has Biden done anything to deter Putin ?
One incident in isolation ?,Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...-in-eight/amp/
What does that really matter they aren't point scoring against each other. Both want to disrupt the way of the world, both lie through their teeth to do so. A few dead Russians mean nothing to Trump and less to Putin. The disruption is the thing not the means. Trump is busy this week begging Putin, in the middle of a war that has disgusted anyone with any empathy, to provide kompromat on the Bidens.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
The question remains, why have the Russians spent 10-12 years financing right wing parties and individuals?
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And isn't it telling that those right wing parties throughout the world are particularly silent on events in Ukraine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
That's what you think and you are entitled to do so. There is well documented incidents which say the opposite.
"37 times Trump was soft on Russia"
https://edition.cnn.com/2019/11/17/p...sia/index.html
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Yes but apart from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
CNN would say that, they’re just the inverse of Fox News.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/order...ons-on-russia/
Here’s some more info.
Didn't he ask permission from Putin before carrying out his symbolic bombing raids?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
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Trump spoke out against a lot of those sanctions. We can argue sources all day. Fact remains Trump often took Putins side over his own secret services advise and preferred to believe Putin than his own people.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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IIRC Russia were warned to get their people out of the chemical works before they were bombed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
Nothing about asking permission.
ABC news streaming live coverage of the hearing into the capital hill riot, lots of unseen footage along with that vile repugnant irresponsible nasty orange-faced PoS Trumps part in events
I saw some of it. Liz Cheney, of Trump's own party, skewered him. Evidence from his Attorney General, Bill Barr, was damning. It's going to be a very interesting investigation.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
CNN are miles more reputable than Fox imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
100 percent. Largely quality journos…no comparison with the deep agenda driven content from Fox …Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I agree. I think the likes of CNN are lightweight, bubble gum news as a consequence of American commercialism and the battle for ratings. It isn't hard-hitting journalism; for example, you will never see any substantive criticism on Israel on any of the major networks. That said, it isn't just a mirror image of Fox. That channel has done enormous damage to politics in America as a weaponised mouthpiece for the most unsavoury aspects of the Republican Party. The likes of Tucker Carlson are not trained journalists, they are partisan political operatives.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Absolutely the Russell Crowe series The Loudest Voice said it all about Fox.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
That was brilliant. Vile man and vile networkQuote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Yes despicableQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Fox helps things like this
https://mobile.twitter.com/nytimes/s...84014519111681
The New York Times
@nytimes
Dozens of members of a white supremacist group were arrested on Saturday in Idaho before they could act on plans to riot at a local Pride event, police said. An apparent leader of the group had a seven-page document outlining a plan in extensive detail.
NEXTA
@nexta_tv
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U.S. President Joe #Biden will be running for a second term, reports White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre
I didn’t realise you could do such things from the afterlife.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
I wonder if my granny could rustle up some rum truffles and send them through the same portal Biden will use?
One of the big highlights for me yesterday was Trump scamming his supporters post-election for $250 million for a 'fighting fund' to overturn the 'stolen election'. Of course there was no such campaign and Donnie trousered the lot. He just can't help himself, an incorrigible swindler.
Can see a us recession pretty soon.
Walter Bloomberg
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*US MORTGAGE RATES SURGE TO 5.78% IN BIGGEST JUMP SINCE 1987
The Dow Jones Industrial Average $DJIA falls over 700 points, falling below 30,000 hitting session lows, as stock losses accelerate amid renewed recession concerns
Bring back Donnie. This would never have happened had but for a stolen election :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Not worth baring thinking about, then again republicans are favourites for the next election so sadly maybe it isQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Criticism of Israel? In the US?
:faf:
Or in the labour party now..Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
Wow
BNNUS
Former President Trump says he's "very, very seriously" considering pardoning 1/6 defendants if reelected
He will struggle to get re-elected from jail.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
A consequence of Trump getting three Supreme Court picks: strike down laws that haven't even been passed yet. That way you get to ensure, amongst other things, the environment is trashed. An idea Brett 'accused sex offender' Kavanaugh has been pushing.
https://youtu.be/LolRyRMOY7Y
The New Republicans are now way to the right of Le Pen’s party in France. Repeal the 1965 Voting Rights Act, Biden is not the legitimate president, leave the UN, gays are all abnormal.
https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/...ight-positions
As expected, Roe v Wade overturned by the hard right Supreme Court. Abortion will now be an issue for each state to decide for itself, reversing fifty years of guaranteed reproductive rights for women. A very sad day, and, IMHO, this is motivated by the anti-women's rights agenda of the Republican right wing. Of course they claim they are protecting the unborn, but the religious right is deeply misogynistic. They are not only anti-civil rights, anti-LGBT, anti-worker, anti-environmental protections; their war against women has been part of their platform for decades. Women must be controlled and punished, and removing reproductive rights is a key component of that. Trump's three hard-line right wing appointees are determined to roll back progressive reforms. Only two days ago it overturned the decision of the New York SC on guns, thus making carrying guns in public a protected right.
Women in Republican controlled states will now have to cross state lanes and enter Democratic states to get an abortion. Those who can't afford it, well, will it back to the days of the back street abortionists? It will be interesting to see how laws are changed in Republican states regarding criminal prosecution of women and doctors found to be breaking the law, once abortion is outlawed. No doubt at least some states will outlaw abortion in all cases, including for pregnancies resulting from rape and incest, which will have a huge impact upon women's mental health.
What a warped society, where controlling a woman's reproductive rights is deemed more important than controlling children being massacred in school.
https://youtu.be/zDztJN9-o4c