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Thank God he's gone....at least for now. Time will tell how politically influential he will remain.
It really does feel like something unreal has ended.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
The easiest way to describe how I feel is by comparing it to waking up from a nightmare, but I think it's more like recovering from a horrible illness or fever.
I just hope they vaccinate us by progressing the impeachment to its fullest conclusion and stop it ever happening again.
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Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Sadly he legitimized a large number of questionable groups and nutjob theories, and the effect of that won't go away so easily.
The rather camp named 'Proud Boys' is just one of those and I understand it's appeal has now expanded to some people from ethnic minority backgrounds.
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this guy actually went to Harvard
Imagine what he'd look like after four years if it'd been a full-fat Coke button.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Boris went to Oxford.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by Haymaker
Where he studied Latin and Ancient Greek.
Of no practical use to man nor beast, a bit like Johnson himself.
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
The scary thing is people will swallow that.
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
There's much, much more to classics than being able to speak Latin! A much more worthwhile subject than many that are now in the curriculum.
Agreed, anyone studying contemporary languages, maths or any of the sciences would do well to study Latin. My 12 year old has chosen it for his 2nd foreign language from a choice between French, Spanish, Russian or Latin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
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Originally Posted by Hibs Class
The use of Latin among the Upper Classes is merely a continuation of the 'them and us' divisions of past eras.
When the Normans invaded England, they had a language divide whereby they could identify those in the 'elite', and look down on the inferior, Anglo-Saxons. When this died out, they adopted the language the RC church had been using to similar effect.
Combined with being able to identify quotations from obscure historical texts taught only in Private Schools, this is an excellent perpetuation of Class Division, both making them feel good about themselves and easily identifying their equals (very useful when it comes to hiring and promotion).
Si non potes vincere possumus, certus iungere se.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
semper necessitas probandi incumbit ei qui agitQuote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
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Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
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Originally Posted by Hibs Class
Semper ubi, sub ubi.
Ipsum relinquere nunquam maior nostra as we often say in our house.
GIRUY Google translate and FO with the posey latin, as I've never said before, but will happily say again.
Next week should be interesting
Mea culpaQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Illegitimi non carborundum.
Nonexisti madeupeumQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Amadoundum Kontenonium.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Back on track, any truth in the allegation that Biden is a senex sordidus?
The Simpsons can predict the future...
https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/...eedback-anchor
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Giuliani being sued for £1.3bn. The legal profession will be very busy over the next decade dealing with Trump and associates.
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Trump acquitted of Insurrection.
as expected, Trump Acquitted
Trump acquitted in impeachment trial; 7 GOP Senators vote with Democrats to convict (msn.com)
only 7 republicans voted with the democrats
As expected. Party politics over country yet again.
Expect Trump to start his re-election campaign pretty quickly now.
Expected but still ******* ****.
The Republicans voting to acquit Trump are like turkeys voting for Christmas.
Trump now being free to set up his own party which splits the Republican vote would be poetic justice for those spineless Republican senators who voted to acquit him (twice).
That's too much to hope for, sadly.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Guilty as **** in both impeachments but sadly partisan politics wins the day and fat boy can carry on his “witch hunt” narrative.
Credit to the seven Republican senators who voted to convict Trump; they will be remembered for doing the right thing. The other 43 are either spineless or amoral, some being terrified of Trump's base and fear being primaried the next time they are up for election. Others are diehard Trump supporters and would take a bullet for him. If spreading a conspiracy theory about a stolen election, thus undermining the democratic process whilst stirring up an insurrection isn't indictable, then nothing is. It sets a dangerous precedent of a president being above the law and reminds me of Nixon's infamous "if the president does it, it's legal" remark to David Frost after Watergate. A terrible day for the rule of law.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Trump free to run in the Republican primaries. Why split the vote. He owns the Republicans.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
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Only if he can stay clear of other potential legal entanglements over the next 4 years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
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Highly unlikely he'll make a frontline return when the dust finally settles IMHO. Suspect he'll content himself with seeing out his days by continuing to portray himself as a 'wronged president in exile'.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
This guy hasn't done the new broom Biden administration any favours mind you. Trump-esque language:
TJ Ducklo: Biden aide quits over 'abhorrent' language - BBC News
On the contrary, I think his suspension and resignation underlines how decent a man Biden is.Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
Trump would have applauded Ducklo.
A recent exchange on a US sports show I listen to; Male Pundit: mocks female pundit ‘you should stop watching dumb tv shows and open a book once in a while’ Female pundit: ‘I’ll have you know I have just read two BIG books, so I’ll watch whatever shows I want and if you don’t like that you could stick it where the sun don’t shine’. Male pundit- (laughs) OK whatever. Female pundit- ‘I will DESTROY you’ Male pundit- ‘In what?’ (More laughs all round).Quote:
Originally Posted by G B Young
In short, I’m not sure ‘I’ll destroy you’ is a threat of violence, more like a confidence in my ability to give you a verbal take down. However, I suppose the Dems will be stumbling over themselves not to be percéived as having double standards vis a vis Trump being abusive to the press corps, even though there’s no comparison between this case and mocking the disabled or going after reporters of colour on purpose like Trump did.
It's the unpublished "derogatory and misogynistic language " that's the issue, no?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
And the fact that it was bullying.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Misogynism is obviously a bad thing. I wonder what was unpublished and why.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Originally Posted by Betty Boop
There was never any likelihood of any other result.
Jesus ****ing Christ.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Quelle surprise! UK trash supporting US trash.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by Jim44
this, 110%
I wish the brackets in the title of this thread read ‘soon to be forgotten’ but I sense that’s wishful thinking.
I know what you’re getting at but Trump should never be forgotten. He should always be a reminder of how close we came to chaos and easy it is to get there. 4 years is all it took and it could happen again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Some posts I have seen have his supporters saying he will be back in March this year as president
What planet are they on ffs
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There's some theory that since the 1820s or something ridiculous, America has become a corporation rather than a country. As the original date for the inauguration was in March then he'll be sworn back in then as the 19th president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
It's actually scary how many people I know who think he is/will be President. And these aren't mouth breathers, we're talking highly educated individuals.
Even more worrying then The ones ok ow are full blown conspiracy theorists Lightworkers that believe he was clearing the swamp and saving abused children held underground by the Elite , and that he couldn’t be bought by the Establishment , hence they rigged results to get him outQuote:
Originally Posted by Haymaker
I guess we are nearly at March so time will tell But would be Astonished if this actually transpired
I wonder what they will then come up with
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Did I read that the founder of Qanon and the rumour that Biden was a paedophile has been charged with having indecent pictures of children?
I did, I think it was yesterday or this morning. But I can't find it now.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
The only story I can find is one from December about a candidate for office, who was charged with possession. https://www.thesun.co.uk/news/134532...race-arrested/
The founder of Qanon is Q, isn't it? Don't think it was him/her. Think it was an adherent/spouter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
The one with conspiracies that gets me every time is the sheer number of people involved.
At EVERY level of life, and the fact that they ALL keep tight lipped, not one credible leak.
And the fact that DONALD TRUMP is their saviour. The very definition of established White, Male Privilege
Beggars belief.
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Radicalised, internet zoomers. I bet there is no one amongst them who has been suckered into swallowing this rubbish verbally, like in a pub or at a party. Every one of them have been "doing research" online. Imagine someone came to your door with the Qanon tale, they'd get short shrift as well as guffawed at. Bammy as.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Here .... https://www.dailydot.com/debug/qanon-ben-gibson-arrest/Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Adam Kinzinger, a Republican who voted for impeachment has been ostracised by his family, telling him he was in cahoots with the Devil's Army and that he is a disappointment to God. Whilst accepting that Trump has faults they said he is at least a Christian.
So let me get my head round this. The only time Trump was seen with a Bible was when he brandished it as a weapon having tear gassed the crowd to clear a path for him; he has no clue about its contents and has never appeared to ever read it. His personal behaviour - speech and actions - is totally at odds with even the most cursory glance at Christian behaviour. Meanwhile, the leader of the Devil's Army is a regular churchgoer whose first action on Inauguration day was to attend Church.
Before anyone tries to pick me up for this, I am NOT suggesting that those who attend Church regularly are automatically better than those who don't, but in the case of Biden v Trump I rest my case!!
If it were some mullah bandying that theoretical rhetoric around they'd have the polis all over them or should have. That is why I used the term "radicalised" in the post above, a section of the American population have been weaponised.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACLeith
Does that mean in some cases weapons have been weaponised?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Exactly, and they're armed.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
He’s the type of guy who has never read the Bible, and you all know he has never read the Bible.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACLeith
His life isn’t influenced by Christ or the teachings of the Bible.
His Bible is “The Art of the Deal”.
His God is money and power.
It sickened me to se him hold up that book like a weapon. WTF was he even saying? He just fancied a quick prayer with an old favourite Bible of his?
Just got to club some skulls first.
Still makes me laugh when pressed by an evangelical to give him his favourite Bible verse “that’s personal to me” was his response.
That’s one above “all of them”.
A bit like Alan Partridges favourite Beatles album being “The Best of”.
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Trump takes on the world is captivating
I see the Supreme Court has ordered the release of Trumps tax returns to NY prosecutors.
Considering how hard and long Trump has battled to keep them secret I’m assuming this is particularly bad news for him.
Will take a grand jury a while to peruse them I’m sure but I’m also pretty confident that they will find plenty to pique their interest when they do!
This is the interview here:Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
https://youtu.be/ERUngQUCsyE
It's scary and astonishing that Christians think this man is the second coming.
Only a certain kind of “Christian” though. The kind who changes their faith to suit their political views. Every person I know who could be described as a Christian despises what he has stood for and is relieved he is no longer POTUSQuote:
Originally Posted by neil7908
If you look at christianchat.com it's not the type who change their mind, it's the rabid right wing gun nut who think every other country is communist, COVID-19 is a fraud and Q-Anon and various con men televangelists are god's prophets.Quote:
Originally Posted by ACLeith
Lunatics the lot of them.
Holy ****, I’ve just spent the last hour going down the rabbit hole that is ChristianChat.com. Unbelievable entertainment.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
The smell that won’t go away.
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...publican-party
Surprised to see Trump not back in the White House today!
I’m sure QAnon told us that would happen as well....
It's early yet...Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
He's had his victory today...he's found out Murdo Fraser is a fan. :greengrin
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Originally Posted by neil7908
"Do you prefer the old or new testament?"
"Eh....I like them both, equally."
Truly tremendous stuff. Like many people have said in the comments section, you'd fully expect that answer from one of the characters on 'The Office.'
I considered posting this in the Good News thread, but the fact that it's not been melted down took the edge off the story. :wink:
Trump Wax Figure Moved In Texas Because People Kept Punching It In The Face
https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/ent...b6d6c2a2a64b37
I just read about that. :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-56546480
Looks like all his whinging has had post election impact.
I find it astonishing that states even have the authority to do things like this.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
Trump was pretty clear last year that unless some sort of voter suppression was implemented, there would never be another Republican president.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs Class
None of this is new, the Republicans have been making it hard for black voters to vote for decades. The only sensible choice for the GOP after Obama was to put policies in place to attract more black and Hispanic voters.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
‘Activism’ gets sniffed at by politicos as old fashioned but without literally millions of activists doing voter drives in poor neighbourhoods, helping people with voter registration and ‘right to vote’ awareness raising by the NFL, NBA, Trump would have won again.
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Boom!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
As my wife might say....
I'm surprised to see this coming up again after all this time.
Are you really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
I've been waiting for it expectedly.
The irony of the man who’s crowds chanted “lock her up” facing criminal charges.
Manhattan DA's have been after him for decades.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I was listening on the radio today and 70% of republicans still think that the election was rigged. It would be brilliant if he saw his remaining years out in jail. They should be looking at all his dealings with New York authorities. 40 year tax breaks for his hotel costing tax payers a 1/3 billion dollars. He has been at it from the word go.
a judge in Georgia has approved a recount in fulton county :rolleyes:
Georgia judge approves ballot audit as Trump supporters continue to push unfounded election claims (msn.com)
Around 147,000 votes will be recounted, a move initiated by a group of activists who will be paying for the audit to go ahead, and more information about it come imminently, Judge Amero said.
What a ****ed up system they have The people that can’t accept they lost just can’t let goQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
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Originally Posted by Ronniekirk
if the same result comes back maybe they will finally accept their was no cheating anywhere
but then again maybe not
madness i say, madness
Matt Gaetz tells ‘America First’ rally crowd they have ‘obligation’ to take up arms against tech companies (msn.com)
In remarks to an “America First” rally in Georgia, Florida, Republican congressman Matt Gaetz told a cheering crowd “we have an obligation” to take up arms against Silicon Valley companies that he believes are “suppressing” right-wing voices on their platforms.
give it a few years and the Right-Wing Westminster Tories will probably introduce a 2nd amendment here :rolleyes:
EXCLUSIVE: Tory MP Eddie Hughes slammed for sharing picture of himself posing with gun | Left Foot Forward: Leading the UK's progressive debate
“We believe that posing for a photograph clutching a large gun in a location where racks of more weapons are clearly available, is reckless, insensitive and inappropriate.”
Interestingly, at the times of both Hungerford and Dunblane there was a Tory Government. Both times they took swift action, with cross-party support if I remember correctly, to tighten the gun laws.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
I read that there has been 232 mass shootings over there so far this year. There has been 150 days this year.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-57293174
What the actual ****
You're blaming Trump for this? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
Where did I do that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Crunchie
The post immediately before mine also talked about mass shootings, would you like to complain about it too? 🙄
FWIW, Trump has a lot to answer for when it comes to the gun lobby in America.
I think there was also a high profile campaign against gun control by hunting shooting lobby supported by many including the late Prince who made some crass comment about cricket bats in relation to dunblane.Quote:
Originally Posted by AltheHibby
I don't remember that. But then again, there's a lot I dont remember these days.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
22 THOUSAND rounds?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
I've never heard numbers anywhere like that outside of war.