luckily the tramps have an excellent away record this season as 4 of there remaining 6 pre split fixtures are away from Tiny
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luckily the tramps have an excellent away record this season as 4 of there remaining 6 pre split fixtures are away from Tiny
I reserve my right not to gloat at them until our top six place is assured.
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Dear all hearts fans. Thank you for losing the plot when Paul Hanlon equalised 4 years ago to earn a ‘money spinning replay’. Thank you for the Neilson our plane.
4 years of a downward spiral leaving you 17 points below us and facing relegation. Meanwhile us Hibees who have done things properly over the years are in touching distance of an unthinkable European place.
Karma for all your financial doping over the years is a great thing, and I’m loving every minute.
Have they announced a boycott because of the "ticket price"?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
The same price that they paid earlier this season.
How's the table looking?
I like the thread 'We are going down'.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
If we win our next two games, our confidence will be high and the crowd will be very expectant, but they will raise their game. They only really care about beating us or at least not losing to us. I think assuming stendell is still there that they be a very different team to the very poor team we get to see on Sportscene.
We have a much better team, better players etc. however derbies are all about who wants it on the day.
Hibs win 3-0
As much fun as a pumping would be, it'd also speed up Stendel getting the boot so I'll be happy with a narrow win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Ye gods, I had forgotten the derby was so close. In spite of our decent form and their pish form I can't forget that we have handed them one of their only two away wins all season, it was a game we should have won and we still managed to concede a goal to a fat lump who is about as effective up front as a sack o' tatties and a deflected shot from a bloody teenager.
The other point is that if they lose to St Mirren on Friday they will be in real trouble and it will create a chance for Hibs to hammer a giant nail into their coffin .... we all know how these situations usually turn out.
They only skirt around reality. They can't face up to the fact that we have a much better structured club,a manager who knows the spl and who will only get better and new signings like docherty are red hot already. Some of them actually up till last weds thought that they could finish above us. That at least they realise isn't going to happen. A few have even realised that our Daniel doesn't have a clue and they will need more turmoil in the close season. I just smile at them. My only wind up of them in congratulating them on finding three keepers as bad as zibby. That takes some serious lack of scouting to achieve thatQuote:
Originally Posted by hibbie02
Still quite a few with their heads in the sand. I do actually feel sorry for the odd decent Jambo but loving it watching the vast majority have a miserable weekend every weekend. Karma is a wonderful, beautiful thing.
I find it staggering the amount of hearts fans who still support Stendel and are blaming Levein.
Levein was brutal this season but imo Hearts still has a decent enough squad, certainly better than 12. Stendel has came in and been horrific, doesn’t seem to be learning the league at all.
That being said, I’m still not confident about our game against them in a couple of weeks, seen it too many times.
Did Levein not break the clubs clean sheet record recently and have them in semis and finals? 6th two seasons running is really decent for a Hearts being more sensible with money. I wonder if they were being honest with themselves how many of them would rather he was still manager rather than their Daniel. I'd feel less confident against a Levein team in the derby than a Stendel one
They’re blaming Levein because they hounded him out the door, but they all know that CL would have picked up more points than Stendel and probably would have had them clear of imminent danger.Quote:
Originally Posted by Unseen work
Now moaning that Hamilton's first goal was offside and it was never a penalty for the second, oh yes and the Ref was a cheat
Lordy! 😯
Hamilton's first certainly looked offside to me - unless it was the Hearts' defender's tackle that centred the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
The striker maybe have been behind the ball therefore onside.Penalty was stonewall.What wasn’t was Hamiltons red card. An accident and yellow at worst.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
This I like (from JKB)
Apparently there's an Aberdeen away to add in too.Quote:
St. Mirren - A
Hibs - A
Motherwell - H
Livingstone - A
Ross C - H
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Kilmarnock - A
St.Johnstone - H
Ross C - A
St.Mirren - H
Hamilton - A
6 away games, only 4 at home.
30 points up for grabs - Where do we get 18 from?
Taken from another football forum. Jim McIntyre's first 10 league games at Dundee v's Stendel's first 10 league games at Hearts. How did it end for Dundee?
Stendel McIntyre
L 0-1 to St. J L 0-4 to Livi
L 0-2 to Celtic L 0-3 to Hearts
L 1-2 to Accies L 0-5 to Celtic
L 0-2 to Hibs L 0-1 to Motherwell
D 1-1 to Aberdeen D 1-1 to St. M
D 0-0 to Ross Co. D 2-2 to Hibs
W 2-1 to Rangers W 4-0 to Accies
D 3-3 to St. J D 1-1 to Rangers
L 2-3 to Killie L 1-3 to Killie
L 0-5 to Celtic L 1-5 to Aberdeen
Stendel: P9, W1, D3, L5, 9 GF, 20 GA, -11 GD
McIntyre: P9, W1, D3, L5, 10 GF, 25 GA, -15 GD
I think they are going down. Stendel too drastic a change for them where as a McCall or Robertson would have kept them up.
I'm not having a go but I've never liked this mentality among our support.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Jeez, they'll be saying the megastand's not finished next!Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
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Agree. It was justified to an extent in the past, but we're going to absolutely pump stendals team.Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Only if you discount Oli Shaw's winning goal against them (which the match officials did).Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Looks like the Big Team relationship is to continue [emoji23]
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Get this into the YAMATHEUARUS thread. It's brilliant.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Genuine lol moment there.....:faf: :top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
The classic vengabus song came on at work today and got me thinking about hopefully singing this one near the end of the season.
The stendel bus is coming
And everybodys jumping
From Ayr to greenock Morton
And back down to dunfermline
That's why jack ross chose Hibernian
So if you like to party
Come on and move your body.
No I'm not excatly bob dylan lol but kinda goes but just need to fill in the blank line.
More content like this please Aldo. TremendousQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Stendalitis lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Talking about ER - "Hearts should never go to their outdated Lego hell hole and ever be feared" Does this guy wear a blindfold when he goes to Tynie?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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Originally Posted by gloryhunter
I doubt he goes out much at all.
If Lego have changed the design of their holes I am livid. The stuff costs a fortune and to think I may have to replace all the older bricks makes my blood boil!Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryhunter
It would please me no end to see Hearts win only one of their next few games, as long as that game was their cup tie v Rangers
The only thing that could come close to matching 2016 would be for a cup win vs a relegated Hearts in the final
Part of me would not be surprised
Me neither. It’s a bit early to start crapping it springs to mind :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by HFC93
Good of them to show solidarity with Norwich too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
That’s what i want. I want them in the final. Suspect they’re too rotten to even fluke their way there though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Only problem is that the cup final is a few weeks before the end of the season. Might not be down by then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
TBH I would be surprised if they could still get 10th in the league by the time 9 May comes round.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
I'd settle for knowing they were relegated or (at best) had a nerve-wracking two-legged play-off to follow, all to be played out under the giant shadow cast by having already lost The Scottish Cup Final to the jubilant Hibees. What a month that would be.
John Robertson will be in charge of them by then and will scrape them to safety.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onceinawhile
Friday is shaping up to be a biggie for our pink chums. So what are the likely outcomes?
A herts win.
All is good in the world, relegation was never an option and their high-press enthusiasts sleepwalk into getting torn an absolute new one at ER by Boyle and Allan.
A draw.
Uh-oh. Still 3 points (& played 1 more) from safety and the games are running out. Stendal stays, sticks with Plan A when clearly he can’t get Plan A to work at all. Result - get torn an absolute new one at ER by Boyle and Allan.
A herts loss.
Reality dawns. They are utter p1sh. Stendal may get punted for £squillions and the demoralised troops are like rabbits in the headlights as Boyle and Allan absolutely tear them a new one at ER.
On balance, I'm preferring the 3rd outcome, but all have their merits.
I'll take the draw. It's the hope that kills you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernianinc
But why is Potter still there? His contract is till the end of the season, can't believe Budge didn't just pay him and get him out.
The atmosphere at that club must be absolutely toxic.
It's the most bizarre situation ever. Sacking a manager and then let him creep about in the background. He must be loving Stendel's disastrous start.Quote:
Originally Posted by KingPat4
Don't like the way the BBC are treating Michael Stewart but do love how they keep bringing up how Hibs and Hearts sacked the managers at the same time when we were 1 point ahead of them. How we were quick to get in JR and they took ages with Stendel and now we are in with a shout of Europe whilst they are battling relegation. :faf:
Just been in JKB.
What a bunch of bickering, back-stabbing, whinging, corrupt, bleating, non poppy paying, slandering, cheating, slavering, greet’in lot they are.
We have had our hard times but we have always dealt with our problems with dignity and humility. Hibs as a club have always worked our own way out of diversity through hard work and effort.
Thank god I am Hibby.
Remember they announced around 10 years ago that they would win the Champions League.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
What a bunch of clowns.
I expect this has been posted already but I make no apologies for repeating it...
Hearts points total compared to last season:
Last season: Pld 27. Pts: 44. Pos: 5th.
This season: Pld: 27. Pts: 19. Pos: 12th........ 25 points less!
Ha-ha-ha - 'out-dated Lego hell-hole' - more confirmation that the average 'Duncan' sees things that no other human-being sees - for instance, for years now on the pitch they've had players with world-class skills and talents but somehow these world-class skills and falents escaped the eye of even the most neutral of fans ! Seems like they have the same 'insight' when it comes to stadiums - or could it simply be that this particular 'Duncan' is miffed at ER being BIGGER ??. We rarely hear from them any more about attendances/size - I wonder why ............... ??Quote:
Originally Posted by gloryhunter
TINYcastle - biggERQuote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
2008 was when they were winning it by, they were building a Megasuperhotelstadium around then as well[emoji23][emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
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I came across a Hearts fan the other day who said they wouldn't change the Romanov era due to their success.
That’s because they don’t do FACT.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
FACT is our stadium has a larger capacity!
FACT is our stadium is UEFA compliant.
FACT is there ground is smaller and has a capacity less than 20,000 and has restricted views.
So yes you are correct if it was bigger etc we would have heard about it.
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Originally Posted by Keith_M
It’s all Robbie Neilson’s fault. I think.
I bet he/she was one of the idiots that bought into Vlad's cash only share issue, just before he fled the country with a suitcase full of banknotes [emoji16]Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
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Legit Businessman Vlad was really, really good for Hearts and they might well have made a dent in the Champions League if it wasn't for that pesky Money Launderer Vlad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
I think most would say that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
How many tour de France did Lance Armstrong win again?
Doesn’t surprise me, it was the most successful era in their modern history. It’s probably very easy for them to get over the pain of administration with two Scottish cups. Add that to the fact that they bounced straight back up from the championship and finished third.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
This though, this is season they really ****ing deserve. This is the long term punishment, the restoration of financial parity.
To be honest you should really include their 1998 cup win in this era. When the pieman took over from wallet mercer circa 1996 the were only £3m in debt. Just 6 years later they were £18m in debt so they were racking up the debt before and during this 1998 cup win.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Before their cup win in 1998 they had not won a major trophy in nearly 40 years. Then bang, 3 cup wins pop up mired in a mountain of debt. Would they have won these cups without over spending on players.....no chance. The Famous Cheats.
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Originally Posted by RoYO!
Zero, it turns out.
They won a grand total of 2 trophies in a 6 year period of financial doping that took their club right to the brink of existence. For comparison we won 2 trophies in a 9 year period doing things the right way, and I’m quite proud of that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
You got the position wrong - they won it last season back in October.Quote:
Originally Posted by Keith_M
He did not defraud people out of £70+ million in doing it though.Quote:
Originally Posted by RoYO!
His current net worth is reported to be $125M so he has certainly defrauded someone.....Quote:
Originally Posted by FilipinoHibs
They also qualified for Europe and had some relative success/glamour ties and finished second, not to mention numerous derby wins and old firm successes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
I know by comparison it seems a pittance, as we also reached more finals and semi finals than them in that time.
All I mean is that if you had said to me after that run that “you’re going to into administration but you’ll have a whole year to build up to your relegation, you’ll be down there for one season and you’ll come up straight and finish third” I wouldn’t have been all that gutted.
I didn’t realise Robinson’s tenure was so quick and so disastrous.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibees1973
In the era of FFP action seems fine taken retrospectively which is a bit “laggy” so by the time clubs are caught they’ve wined and dined on the successes and it’s a case of “rip it up and start again”.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Rangers would probably be the same imagine their history without Laudrup, Gasgoine, De Boer, Klos, Arteta, Van Bronkhurst, Neuman etc
By fair means or foul? These sheisfers and others stuffed up our game as it became a bit like cycling. But if you were to say to Rangers fans best part of 10 years History you would have to erase?
All my Jambo supporting mates say that. Best days of their lives supporting them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Was that not when they built 3 sides of the stadium though? That would account for most of that amount, as they weren’t selling players like we were when we rebuilt our ground.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Funny how they managed to burn through the £9m received for Craig Gordon later though.
UKIO Bankas had a $300 million black hole because of Vlad's activities. Some may have been defrauded but some was blown on crazy business ventures. Hearts being one of the latter.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I thought that was with Taylor report funding?Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
The £9mil was a drop in the ocean with the amounts they were spending on wages for that vast squad they assembled under Romanov.
You did well, I can’t seem to find any ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
I don't fancy them that much eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by Corstorphine Hibby
Amazed they never paid Heriot Watt and still continue to train there.
Maybe one day they will own their own training base or finish their main stand.
Top clubs have their OWN training facility - name me a club that doesn’t at a high level to maintain privacy.
I remember watching Levein run through his pre derby team on the open grass pitches at Heriot Watt couple years ago.
Won’t come cheap in Edinburgh so I look forward to see how they approach this and fan ownership in the future.
All my family are yams. Luckily my mum moved to Leith before I was born. My uncle was a shareholder and is one of the rabid faithful. He proudly told me that at that years AGM they had voted to increase the debt to £40 million so they could win the champions league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
When I pointed out that unlike abramovich, who wrote off Chelsea’s debt every year, Romanov wasn’t spending £40 million, he was piling debt onto the club, I was told I knew nothing about football finances.
Just goes to show us Hibees are forever in their shadow with our lack of knowledge on how to be a big team
A couple of Jambos at work were telling me that thwy helped fund the development work at Herriot Watt to the tune of £2.5m and in return they got a 25 year lease. I didnt know thisQuote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
Mental isn't it? Our family yam was firmly in the camp that they were lending it to themselves and the limit was only Vlads personal wealth which he believed were in billions rather than millions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs4185
Using just their own money has never been part of his thinking and as a DD canceller he isn't that keen on them using his either.
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They renaged on that joint plan at the last minute. SMG invested £6-7M in Hearts with the understanding that a portion would be invested in Riccarton. They spent they lot on three players and pulled out of the training centre investment. Part of the £19M debt the pieman left them was the repayment to SMG. If they invested that sum why would they be paying rent?Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
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They won’t move from HW because it’s a great deal for them. They pay less a year than it costs us to maintain East Mains.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenCastle
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Another yam myth to make themselves sound bigger and better than they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Quote below from The Scotsman at the time re funding. If Hearts had paid any money their pals in the Edinburgh press would have had it on the front page.
"Oriam is proving itself in its debut year after costing £33 million, with the Scottish Government contributing £25m, and the remainder coming from sportscotland, Edinburgh City Council and Heriot-Watt University."
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Exactly they won trophies that otherwise they wouldn’t of won I can see the logic in that They don’t care who didn’t get paid what was due them They were happy to ride the bandwagon while it lastedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
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Neither would I if it happened to us. Two cups and a decent recovery. This current season is independent of the Romanov years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Aye, I'm sure if you could guarantee the same outcome most **** fans would do it all over again. But a 2 trophy return in exchange for the entire existence of your club being dependent on the whim of Lithuanian creditors and whether they can be hoodwinked as to the true value of your assets? No thanks.
Hamilton boy has had his red card rescinded. Damage already done and could end up costing them their place in the league.
That was the original development pre administration. They still have the lease but there's only 10 years left on it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
You forgot the part where they got off with it relatively unscathed, until this point in time where the reason they’ve gone backwards is nothing to with administration/relegation, but through chronic mismanagement of funds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
They did aye but and it's easy to look back now with the benefit of hindsight but at the time they were literally on the brink or at least very close to it. I stand by my original point; 2 trophies is a pish return for putting your club in such jeopardy. Their financial doping didn't even allow them to mount a decent title challenge FFS.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
Yep. Like I said, spawny bassas.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
How close did they get to the brink though? They got off fairly lightly and even went into admin when they did so they wouldn’t get relegated the previous season, how they got away with shafting the league like that and waiting until the season was over is bonkers too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
Isn't there a genuine question over cheating though?Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
If we're happy that the ends justify the means, then we'd have to accept everything Rangers (IL) did was just an effort to play the system, and if players can go down like a sack of tatties in the box and con the ref then that's good game management?
Allisbarry already bumming up the next Hawrts super kid.
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...atford-1848757
I wonder if he'll be worth as much as Cockring...
Jammy Jambos. A bad refereeing decision on Saturday has given a three point swing in their favour, then on Friday they face St Mirren who had to play extra time yesterday evening.Quote:
Originally Posted by Heisenberg
Brilliant! They've managed to find something where they're above us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Apparently this season they've had 311 attempts at goal whereas we've only managed 290.
Is that us dead as a club again?
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.c...1883594?page=1
Kick outs by their goalie really shouldnae count as shots though...Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
The only stay that matters is we're 17 points above themQuote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
I was playing snooker the other night, bloody lost again but I definitely hit loads of balls loads of times.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
Do I win a coconut?
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The Lithuanian creditors basically told by Edinburgh establishment there would be no planning permission for house or supermarket development. Why they took £2.25 million. Though some developers were looking at doubling that amount and take the risk they would get the planning permission. Hearts sailed close to the wind.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
I think they have a possibly soon to be resident of Saughton to thank for not getting liquidated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
I agree in principle, but I don’t think you’d find many hearts fans who would.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gloucester Hibs
Mr Fish. Took a fishy wee trip out there for the liquidation. Stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Killiehibbie