Or since it's been known for a while that Hibs are prepared to consider letting him go because he doesn't want to be here maybe he already has permission to speak to other clubs?Quote:
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Or since it's been known for a while that Hibs are prepared to consider letting him go because he doesn't want to be here maybe he already has permission to speak to other clubs?Quote:
Originally Posted by Up-the-slope
Maybe he has Hibs permission on the premise that a fee has to be agreed if he finds a club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Up-the-slope
Not one of Tina Turners best songsQuote:
Originally Posted by BoomtownHibees
I think it's common place these days,. probably through agents? There is probably no point in agreeing a fee with a club if you find out you can't afford the players terms?Quote:
Originally Posted by Up-the-slope
I may be wrong.
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Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
To me it’s the easiest way to do it, Hibs just come in at the end when wages and conditions have been agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Up-the-slope
I couldn’t imagine Hibs complaining about Vente agreeing terms with a club
What if he's crap with a bad attitude? Maybe there's a method in their madness.Quote:
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Made me laugh, lol.Quote:
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Her duet with Sir Alex was a deserving chart-topper though. "Vey Pwoud Mary"Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Players selling for millions on wages we can’t get near is no problem but loaning players to aberdeen, hearts, st.mirren etc should be a no go for them makes zero sense to strengthen competitors in the same league as a club they part ownQuote:
Originally Posted by B.H.F.C
Young has left the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by CapitalGreen
Greg Kiltie rejoins Killie
They are looking to offload him, they agreed an option to buy with Valencia last season which Valencia didn't take up. They're probably hoping to get a similar deal with Rangers. They'll also be trying to get as much of his wages off the books as they can. We could never afford his wages or transfer fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pytheas
You are pretty much saying they can't loan to anyone else in the Scottish Prem but us. A loan player to Livingston could cost us a win. Where do you draw the line? Then Bournemouth have the same problem in France. Portugal. Australia.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
And what if we want to take a player on loan from one of Bournemouth's rivals? Should hibs be progressing the career's of their direct rivals players?
It gets silly and the group becomes a hindrance rather than a help. Bournemouth look after Bournemouth. Hibs look after hibs. If we can share information to benefit all that is one thing. If we're tying each other's hands I'm not so keen.
Coleman was considering retirement as well, I reckon the Walker signing may be confirmation that he has decided to retire and join the coaching staff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lago
Exactly. I thought it would be weird if Paulson went on loan to St Mirren, this is different for me. Aarons is never a player we’d get cause he wouldn’t want to join us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergio sledge
Andy Robertson rumoured to be leaving Liverpool for Atletico Madrid… didn’t realise he was 31 now .
The idea that Bournemouth shouldn't send a player to Rangers is just mad imo. He's a player that's miles above our standard of signing so as others have said he was never going to end up here.
I'm not sure I agree - seems counter intuitive for BKFC to help strengthen a team that finished 1 place above us last season, they're supposed to be helping us bridge that gap.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
I'm sure there'd be other suitors for him.
Player needs to want the move as well though. I hate them, but Huns probably look an attractive move right now, new manager who he's worked with before, new owners, European football every season.Quote:
Originally Posted by yerauldda
Or it could all just be paper talk and Aarons ends up somewhere else.
Of course, definitely not as cut and dry as 'Bournemouth send player to Rangers' and there'll be other factors at play.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Just feels odd there's a willingness on BKFC's part.
I absolutely get all the chat about players being loaned to us by the BKG, but still find it a bit disappointing we aren’t seeing players coming to us we’d never have got if it wasn’t for the tie up. After all it was one of the things we were told to expect when the deal was done.
Do find that quite frustrating as well. It’s only been Maoloda and Marcondes, both of those straight away and into a team unfortunately managed by Montgomery.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Expected a few more like that in the following windows.
I do think we might see some good quality players come in from Lorient this year. They walked the league this year and will be looking to improve their squad now they are back in top flight. I imagine we might get one or two who would be in and around the squad but not starting or a talented youngster who's just off starting for them. That's my hope anyway. I don't think there is anyone at Bournemouth either good enough or who would want to come here.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
It is a bit mad in fairness that because of our partnership with Bournemouth that folk would think they wouldn’t do deals with other clubs in our league . It’s like the chat about Paulsen in it really didn’t suit either party for him to come on loan to us but maybe a team like Dundee Utd or St Mirren would have .Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
The reality is that BKFC/Bournemouth have their own club to worry about and Aarons will be sooking up a wage that they'll not want to pay out anymore, and if Rangers are willing to offer them the most amount of money for him then they'll take it.Quote:
Originally Posted by yerauldda
They're not going to do us a favour and hold onto him and pay about £2m in wages in the off chance we can catch Rangers. It's a total dream world scenario if anyone thinks that's how they should operate.
The Paulsen one makes a bit more sense as he's at our level and those teams are our direct competitors. But if Hibs don't want him then that's on us if he ends up elsewhere in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Bournemouth paid the money for him and they'll want him to develop accordingly to either play for them or sell him for a decent profit, he's not going to sit on the bench or in the stands at Bournemouth because no one in the set up wanted him this year. Being in this multiclub set up doesn't just exclude you from doing business with other teams outside of it.
I didn't for a moment suggest that they hold on to him for our sake but it's the beginning of the transfer window and I'm sure there'd be an alternative club available that could match Rangers offer at some stage.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
I don't think it's a dream world scenario to expect a significant shareholder of our football club to act in our best interests.
Rangers finished one place about us but by no means are we challenging them or close to splitting them.
Rangers signing Aarons may make them stronger, but it makes little to no odds to us.
Just concentrate on ourselves, get the best players we can and try and cement third again.
I’m sure if we manage that and we’re getting close to 2nd or challenging then the BK won’t be loaning them players.
That’s maybe the pitfalls of being in a multi club structure for Bournemouth then, us taking a loan player off brentford for example causes Bournemouth no problems at all, Bournemouth loaning say Alex poulsen to st mirren has the potential to save them points and effect our league placing costing us money, what’s the point in buying 25% of a club to then make the competition stronger, how’s that even protect their investment only way they make money should they sell up is if we are successfulQuote:
Originally Posted by Wilson
Selling players is a different kettle of fish, I’d think any players available to buy in our price range we’d get a heads up on first anyway if we aren’t interested or can’t afford like Aaron’s then it’s fair game, sending promising youngsters or fringe players to other clubs in our league is a madness imo
They could also say what’s the point in a multi club structure if we go to other premier league teams for loans and not themQuote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
Who knows, maybe it’s another Scott Bain - Scott Allan - Simon Murray deal all over again
Bournemouth give Rangers Aarons so we can get a rangers player…
If we have knocked back paulsen in favour of signing salinger then a loan deal to another scottish prem team lets us assess him in our league. Presumably Bournmouth will have the ability to cut his loan in January if it turns out he is exceptional and our goalies are terrible. I expect neither scenario to be the case and feel going with our two experienced keepers makes more sense than taking a risk on Paulsen at this time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dmas
Every week they hold onto him is another 30/40k down the pan for a player they don't want. If Rangers meet the financial side and he wants to go there then I don't really see why they wouldn't just take it and move on instead of hoping that the perfect offer that matches Hibs ambitions pops up. Especially if Rangers themselves have perhaps hit a deadline on their offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by yerauldda
I think folk are reading far too much into it and making up silly rules that it should follow. Should any BKFC club hold off selling or loaning to any of the the potential teams we may face in Europe for example? What about teams that are close to Hibs or even Scotland's coeffiency? Should they try and weaken them all so Scotland gets its guaranteed group place back on the off chance Hibs get it at some point in 10 years? How far do we want to take this arbitrary rule system we're now demanding in place?
Is it really that simple, the Rangers offer most money part, he goes? Bournemouth operate in a different world financially and the principle of assisting a rival to strengthen at the expense of one the clubs they have a significant shareholding in seems wrong to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
Paulsen did make more sense in he was at our level but what Bournemouth would have been wanting for him in regular game time with the way our current keeper was performing it was something I don’t think we could guarantee , If we were offered a really good young striker from them on the condition he gets regular game time I don’t think it would be in our best interests to have Bowie on the bench hindering his development after what we forked out on him either . These deals have to suit both clubs interests .Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
The Aaron to Sevco is player that they forked out £7m for and we more than likely couldn’t afford his wages plus it’s extremely doubtful he would even contemplate joining us anyhow . He was previously on loan at Valencia with an option to buy so I think they are actively trying to move him on and they are probably saving a bit of money by doing this . It’s a win / win for Bournemouth and is not something that really affects us considering how far ahead they finished ahead of us last season and others too .
I would very much doubt Rangers will be paying anyone 30-40k per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
What in you view is the point of BK investment in Hibs? Given that they have put 6 million in already, what do they hope to achieve?
Nobody is answering the question which of our rivals are they allowed to trade with. Falkirk? Any? What about Lorient's rivals? You can see how putting arbitrary rules in place would complicate transfer dealings?Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
Bournemouth loaning one player doesn't strengthen Rangers on it's own. So how can you level that at them? They loan may work out. It may not. It doesn't strengthen them significantly in it's own right.
Whether Rangers are strengthened or not will be a body of work. A significant investment. Getting more of the moving parts right than wrong. If they do that well enough then we can’t match it financially. One loan signing won't be the significant difference.
Aberdeen apparently weighing up making a move for a guy called IIano Timas .
I believe so yes. They're in a different world financially but they still have PSR to contend with, and in fact if it wasn't for some loopholes they would have fallen foul to it in previous seasons. If they can save or 'get back' a 7 figure fee somewhere they'll take it so they can use it elsewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
It's obviously a small amount of money but add it up over 2 or 3 players and you could be looking at an extra £10m or so a season to play with.
Picture of Stuart Findlay at Tynecastle doing the rounds on twitter
They are gonna have to get more dining chairs for their dug oot for their 45 playersQuote:
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Bournemouth have signed defender Adrien Truffert from Rennes in a £14.4m deal.
The 23-year-old France left-back has agreed a five-year contract.
Brighton confirm signing of Diego Coppola for around £9M.
Photo of trainatis in hooped hibs top on twitter. Not sure if it's a fake
almost certainly.Quote:
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Birmingham offered 30k a week to the winger from Peterborough and if the Record is correct, Rangers are signing him.Quote:
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They absolutely are. Not to many though.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I think that's an interesting question that goes beyond just one player moving to Rangers and is perhaps a larger discussion about the set up than this thread is maybe the place for. But to keep it short I imagine they want to make some money out of it or at the very least pay the 'rental' fee on using us as a place to develop players to some regard.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I can imagine that having a Scottish club is good for player development, easier to get work permits for players vs down south I believe for example. Allows them to be in a 'British' environment (weather, language, league style of play) and in some instances maybe even a good place to buy players by proxy. Remember the Scandi lad that we were rumoured to be looking to buy in January for example?
If BKFC can use their club network for example to turn a Paulsen into a starting Premier League keeper for them or even sell him for £30/40m to a big 6 club then that's paid for their seat at our table and whatever costs in setting up an A-League team is. If over the course of the next decade they can do that 2 or 3 times then it's pure profit.
100% a fake - it's an image of when we announced him last year, and they've planted a new top on himQuote:
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Fair response.Quote:
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Aarons is probably a player who has already been developed into what he is. A guy in his mid 20's, with plenty games behind him and a good championship player, probably not equipped for the Premier League, possibly not for a strong club in the Spanish top flight either.
I suppose the other side of the coin is what do Hibs get from it, aside from the 6 million:greengrin. We now have some expertise on our board and within our network. Our head of recruitment seems like an example.
However, most fans had hopes we would see a higher calibre of player. More Maolida's. In my naivety, I think of Triantis and imagine we should be signing him, that BK financial support could help make things like that happen.
Aarons is in another league financially, but my thoughts are that he shouldn't go on loan to one of our rivals. If it's a transfer, that seems less of an issue. I'm less bothered about young guys that are unproven joining St Mirren or the likes, assuming we had first dibs on them.
Good for them. Absolute scatter gun approach from them so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Their senior squad must have well over 30+ players, and probably easily like another 11 more than ourselves.Quote:
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And pretty weird behaviour.Quote:
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That top is honking in all .Quote:
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Probably walked into the Vitality and went ........... Aye really nice, but c'mon, where's the real stadium :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
As for AFC Bournemouth loaning a player to the Sticky Buns. I suppose they can do what they want, but it hardly goes towards the credo of a mutually beneficial partnership and in my capacity as a fitba fan I invoke my right to set aside logic and business sense and be annoyed about it. Do better Foley !!! :grr:
Yip, very strange.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
I expect the players would have to agree to a loan, maybe don't fancy a spell in Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by jeffers
Aarons to be fair was tipped to go fairly far but probably stayed at Norwich too long, and he was a signing they made 2 years ago in the hope they could get him back on the path. It hasn't worked out and they'll be wanting to shift him now by either selling him for what they paid or getting him out on loan somewhere that will help him be an enticing move for someone else with £5m in their pocket to burn. Especially as his contract runs until 2029 and will be taking £2-3m a year in wages.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
I think there's been a fundamental misunderstanding on what multi club deals really are because of the City group etc, we haven't been bought over by an oil tycoon ready to start throwing millions on guys to get us into 2nd place. We've sold a minority stake in the club to a network of businessmen who are in the business of football and will want to see returns on investments in some way. Could they give us £2m to go sign Triantis? Probably, without knowing the full rules on how that could work I'm sure there's a way to do it. But does it help BKFC or Bournemouth? Not really. Unless we wanted to sign over 50% of the profit to BKFC for example.Quote:
Originally Posted by superfurryhibby
For what it's worth I barely consider the idea of Rangers as 'one of our rivals' beyond the fact I just don't like them as a football club/entity/gang of mutants. Aarons going there will not be the move that stops up getting third again. If anything it is probably more likely Rangers being better helps us achieve third as they'll maybe stop dropping the terrible points across the league to everyone else, albeit we might not get as many off them as last season. If Bournemouth all of a sudden start giving Dundee United a striker who ends up bagging 10-15 goals or St Mirren a winger who gets in the team of the year then I'll start understanding folk being a bit miffed by how it's operating. But until then I'm not that worried.
They need a big squad because they've got to cope with the guaranteed group stage cup football they've got coming up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Souter96Mac
Or actually, they had a dilemma, recruit the players ChatGPT Plus found on via Wyscout Diamond or recruit the players McInnes wants. They've decided to compromise and do both.
I think myself and many fans were swayed by the prospect of "game changing" investment talk at the time, it created heightened expectation. Probably a lesson learned for our board in terms of hyperbole :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Centre Hawf
As for one of our rivals, they unquestionably are. They are a team we matched on the field in 1:1 fixtures across last season and if we are to win a cup, then they are a side we may well have to beat.
Just a thought, would it be against any rules for the Aarons loan agreement to stipulate that he doesn't play against Hibs?
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A gentleman's agreement then?Quote:
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Ha ha ha ha. Gentlemen and The RangersQuote:
Originally Posted by Caversham Green
Settled with a handshake ‘Quote:
Originally Posted by GordonHFC
If the Aaron's mooted move is genuinely a loan then that really is a bit of a shocker from Bournemouth. Yes I understand he wouldn't be coming to us given his wage demands but Bournemouth shouldn't be loaning a player to one of our rivals. The are our rivals and i don't care what anyone has to say about that. If its a permanent signing then not much we can do about that if Bournemouth want him off the books and that's the best deal on offer.
So they can only sell if it's he best offer but they can't loan it it's the best offer?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage-Patch
Have to disagree tbh, think they are well within their rights too loan him to them
Killie signs Jack Thomson from Queens Park
Both Killie and Dundee’s signings up to now haven’t been great , two teams I would expect to be struggling again and who might possibly be saved by the fact that Livi are probably poorer than them .Quote:
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soro ex Celtic available dm
Can't remember him. Couldn't have left a mark.Quote:
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Can't remember if he was really good or terrible. Been at one of the world's most racist clubs for the last couple of seasons.Quote:
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Can’t be many who’ve made the move directly from Celtic to RangersQuote:
Originally Posted by EGL2000
We already have a song for him although it’s normally only for special occasionsQuote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
I thought he was decent although he hardly played. Not sure if he was a Lennon signing?Quote:
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Says he played 27 times.Quote:
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Mo Sylla has left Dundee and signed for Duli Pengiran Muda Mahkota in Malaysia
He played against Hibs in the 1-1 game at Parkhead when Nisbet score a 90th minute equaliser.Quote:
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Didn't play many games like I say but Soccerbase has him at 40+ games in all comps
He was no Zorro.Quote:
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Always thought he looked pretty goodQuote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
Mobile and good on the ball
Any rumours on Hibs signings, seems very quiet?
It's gone very quiet on Migouel Alfarela, I wonder if he's an actual target.Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Emerald
There was another defensive midfielder we were linked with who I got quite excited about 😁 I can't remember his name.
Killies new signing 😆…
https://x.com/KilmarnockFC/status/1934989506685391257
Actually pretty funny 😁Quote:
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Yup , BKG don't have to have done us any favours of any kind . Just saying .Quote:
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He didn’t get much of a chance, but when he got a run he added a bit of energy they were missing.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
Don’t any chance of it happening? Would be a Triantis alternative if I remember.
Don't it he's much more defensive more NMW kind of player.Quote:
Originally Posted by 500miles
No decision on Rocky or Hoilett yet, how long does it take and what happened to the boy from Hull Hibs were supposed to be chasing?
He went to BoltonQuote:
Originally Posted by Lago
It’s like Marcondes and Moriah-Welsh never happened. 😃Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibiza
Marcondes wasnt fit and NMW doesn’t appear to have the quality required to play regularly for us. Looks like they got 2 financial liabilities off the wage bill at our expense, with limited return for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
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Marcondes was a bad egg in dressing room by all accounts you hear. NMW just isn’t up to standard but his attitude spot onQuote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
I’m aware this is an uncharitable interpretation by the way, but I don’t think it’s without some justification, especially when we ended up getting Bursik on loan when they had an SPFL tested goalie sitting on his hoop all year.Quote:
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Marcondes was pretty good for us.
He started well, but ran out of gas after half an hour, managed 15 after the break and was knackered again.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ribs1875
For the latter half of his loan he didn’t contribute, made is even more static, always leggy. Campbell came in for the Hanlon/ Stevenson farewell and put it an absolute powerhouse performance. SDG even let Marcondes leave the club early.