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I don't believe the FOH money will be made available to BDO as it only supposed to be used when FOH take control. Also, I've been told FOH have made it clear to BDO that selling season tickets must be a last resort as that money is integral to their business plan. Lastly, selling season tickets in March is difficult when you don't know what division you'll be playing in.Quote:
Originally Posted by KeithTheHibby
Hopefully by the end of March we'll know what division they will be playing in. Hopefully it won't be ours
If they go down, which is highly likely, are they made to cut prices? Or is it up to the individual club?
If it's up to each club then I can see them trying to maintain prem prices.
However, if they are to start next season on -15 again then I imagine they will be a tough sell.
Interesting if they did use median rather than mean. It could be that the mean payment is way below £19.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
I'm sure it's up to the club when it comes to season tickets. I recall there being some sort of rule about the price of walk ups but I'm not sure. Think the average price is £15 for an adult in the championship this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Would it not be a possibility that if the standing orders crashed, both by outright cancellation or reduction to the £ 10 minimum, that Anne Budge and her fellow biddies would realize that they will never get their money back and cancel their funding commitments.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
The FoH web-site is full of promises of honesty and transparency in everything they do , but they are covering up the fall in the level of subscriptions and, as always, the Merricks are too scared/stupid to ask the question.
We should be pushing them to demand answers. What would be a realistic level for the drop in S/O's that we could all accept as Hibs.net Fact and bait any Yams we know with.
Is 50% going too far ? :greengrin
The direct debits are for the running of the club for the first season at least. After that their goal is to fund the club with its own income, making it "self-sufficient" (I know you're reading this Barry) the direct debits are then used to pay back the loans from budge and co. I can't see there being enough DD's left to pay this back quickly enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Ive said in the past that directors have left the FOH because of the lack of a plan B. I've also said that Hearts fans repetition of them being debt free is nonsense. They'll have debt as soon as FOH take over. It's just not to a bank like it normally is.
https://twitter.com/The_FoH
One standing order cancellation being confessed as we post. Dave Hogg says he is hard-up !
By only stripping 5 subs at the weekend Gary Locke is telling every fit player at Tynecastle who was not stripped that the are literally worse than a man short.
Top management Gary. :-)
He might also have been told not to have any more subs as it would have freed another £50 wage that they did not have to pay in the first place:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They are trying to put pressure on SPFL to cave in and lift the sanctions by pleading that they don't have enough playersQuote:
Originally Posted by woody47
Hopefully the SPFL stand firm and make an example of what happens to cheating barstewards like them!!
Reap what you sow Jambos
GIRFUY :giruy:
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That would be funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by woody47
"Sorry Gary, you can't field more than 5 subs because we cant stretch the budget that far"
They really should not be allowed to continue.
Nope, might still be early days but surely with all the honesty and transparency that is now fashionable on Fantasy Island if it was good news they'd be trumpeting it.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I think what you can safely assume at this stage is that the only upward trend in the FOH funding illusion will be in the diddies who didnae category :greengrin thus ensuring there is at least one turkey of the feathered variety in every yam household this xmas.
http://www.foundationofhearts.org/news/
FoH have posted up their first News Letter. No mention of numbers in the pledging game, only a plea for people to get their mates to pledge too.
A great way to lose friends, and what do all their Jonny no-mates do ? :greengrin
I thought they had no mates coz they are all related to each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
£16 average, 7,600 diddies, mentioned when the target was raised to 10,000 diddies.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
It doesn't look good for them no matter which bit of them is being looked at.
DON'T LOOK ETHEL!
Hmfc always garaunteed to give us a wee giggle
keep up the good work chaps :wink:
Thats exactly what I thought when I saw them doing this. A pathetic attention seeking effort. Yams had players available on Saturday who have already played in the 1st team this season. How do all lower division teams, with a fraction of Yams resources, manage to fill a bench each Saturday?Quote:
Originally Posted by AlbertK86
Given you can only make 3 subs max, then clearly they've got enough to have 2 space fillers on the bench. I know: tactical switches, injuries etc but you know, couldn't care less for the Yams.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
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Originally Posted by brog
Correct . As long as they have 7 players , thats enough to start a game :rules:
He thinks the W is silent, as in anker :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Danderhall Hibs
Or elt :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
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Originally Posted by hibees 7062
They still owe Sutton 40k :confused:
I think he'll have to write that off.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
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Originally Posted by magpie1892
Nope,football debt, the FoH pledgers will have to settle that one. :thumbsup:
Yes. Heroic of the jambo fan on 15 or 20 grand a year supporting a rich player from another club.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Wish someone owed me forty grand for not doing a lot:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
It'll be a good early test of the "it was all worth it" brigade.
They won't out their money where their mouth is when it comes to show time
YUP - All those 'Loyal/Staunch' fans, who, by sheer coincidence, started to support them at the same time as when Mercer took over (I.E - The start of 'The Money-Years') will disappear like 'Snow off a dyke'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
Their future is - 'The REAL hearts, the REALISTIC attendances' !!!
...but if the club is liquidated..?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Hearing from 3 different sources that MacDonald of Hearts is a possible replacement for Big Ben if he declines to extend his contract. Anyone else got anything else on this? Is he good enough for us? Is there any truth in it?
Heard the same rumour from a couple of folk the last two days but I wouldn't call either of them 'in the know', although they are not the usual wind up merchants either and one is a yam.Quote:
Originally Posted by mim
I presume that every player, past or present, who is due money via a football debt will waive the payment out of gratitude to and love for their wayward club.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Interesting. Two of my contacts are yams as well. There may well be something in this. Shame if Ben goes, tho. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
That man should have his face printed on money......(cue one of our local experts with a pic)Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNoBut
One of my all-time heroes. Thank you, "Mr Romanov"
I don't rate MacDonald at all tbh.Quote:
Originally Posted by mim
Maybe wants to go back to England? Would be a shame though as he has been a good goalie for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by mim
If he does go then McDonald would be a decent replacement who is out out of contract so would be free in the summer and maybe BDO would be open to a token payment to get him in Jan? Their down anyway and he can leave for nothing so they would probably be happy for some cash to help them get to the end of the season.
He's no superstar but is solid at this level. Worth going for if Williams doesn't renew.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Butcher will know what he's doing.
The owners of any new club will have to settle the debt, a la SevcoQuote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
Wee shame.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
[QUOTE=weonlywon6-2;3844181]Wish someone owed me forty grand for doing nowt
Sorted that for you :greengrin
if big Ben were to leave id be delighted if he came as a replacement,although hope it won't happenQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Always seemed very decent whenever I have seen him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Would be a good signing in my opinion.
I'm sure he can sign pre contract in Jan.
opinions eh!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
I was just saying on Monday that I think this guy is unlucky not to be named in the Scotland squad.
I rate him highly and would do for me, although priorities are elsewhere other than the goalkeeping position, unless we need a new keeper for next year.
I'd take him, lets face it, he has kept the yams In a few games recently, otherwise I think they would have had a fair few hammerings.Quote:
Originally Posted by sleeping giant
I don't get the love in with McDonald. I would leave him to rot in the Championship, and if we need a new keeper, then Steve Marsella has just brought a new guy into ICT (Dean Brill). I'm sure SM has a list as long as your arm with better goalies than the yam.Quote:
Originally Posted by MB62
Most yams I've spoken to don't rate McDonald, I'm not sure if that's a reason to sign him or not.
They really are an ungrateful mob. If it wasn't for him they'd be out the cup and probably no better than -9.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord bunberry
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Originally Posted by mutley
I'd rather have Mannus from the saints
In your wildest dreams did you ever think it would get so bad for the Yams ?, i voted for them to disappear off the face of the earth but what is happening now might be even better !. As the season progresses it could get to the point of their season becoming farcical if it's not already.
Was speaking to a ****bo tonight who reckons McDonald would not sign for Hibs as he is a huge Jambo. He also doesn't rate him.
Administration was on the cards for a good while before it actually happened so yes I did think it would get this bad. Indeed I was also hoping for a lot worse ie. liquidation, but I suppose I can settle for seeing them struggle in this manner. As long as it lasts for a long, long timeQuote:
Originally Posted by greenpaper55
Hospitality at the PBS is not going very well that their 2-for-1 £150 offer is being further discounted via the kickback raffle according to the snippets over the road. If sales don't improve in the next 36 hours, BDO will be accepting £50 a head for their normally priced £150 a head hospitality. I thought BDO were supposed to be protecting revenues, not destroying them. They truly are in the ****.
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JKB and Hearts have once again got together to offer members the chance to win hospitality tickets, this time for the game against Partick Thistle on Sunday, January 5th. and the tickets include:
Arrival at 12:30 pm
Drinks reception
Chance to meet former players
Prime seating in the Gorgie Suite hospitality area
Betting available in Suite
Half time refreshments including pies, tea and coffee
Pre-match meal with wine, tea and coffee
Complimentary bar throughout the day
Man of the match presentations
Suite closes one hour after full time
Initially, there are five prizes of a pair of hospitality tickets on offer....Because this game is a 2-for-1 offer, these packages would cost £75 per person...if enough interest in raffle tickets, more prizes will be added to the draw. If raffle ticket sales are higher than 155, then for every complete 31 sold after that an extra prize of a pair of hospitality tickets will be added to the draw....Tickets are a fiver each
Raffle ticket sales will close on Saturday, 28 December at 9 pm UK time......The draw will take place shortly after that.
Ulysses, on 26 December 2013 - 12:57 AM, said:
66 members have bought 100 tickets and raised a total of £500 so far.
Entries close on Saturday December 28th at 9 pm UK time.
Reported attendance was 13,684. I've just been told it was actually just over 10,000.
shoooorly this cant be trueQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Just watched all the goals from the SPFL highlights. Away end looked empty and there were big gaps in the asbestos stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Why would they do this?? More than 3,500 more. Sounds dodgy yet again?
They count season ticket holders even if they don't show up (Celtic do this as well).Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
The 'free' bar normally/used to close an hour AND A HALF after the game.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs07p
Is there any reason for them to report bigger attendances? Other than trying to keep up the 'big team' charade?
Yup, my brother's a Yam ST holder and he (with a few others) went off to play snooker instead!Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
PS as an aside, this isn't the 1st time this season he/they have found something "better" to do and he's starting to lose the "keep the DD's going" argument with his wife :cb
And isn't it likely that some season ticket holders bought more than one ST? One at the usual time and then another when BDO revealed Vlad had run off with the money? So there has to be an element of double counting in the 10.5k figure too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Maybe its a tax dodge - they've got form :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital
Ah yes... So they do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
They have 10,500 season ticket holders - a few thousand of these were bought to save the club as an extra and have been empty all season.Quote:
Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital
So I doubt we will see a league attendance reported lower than 10,500 all season.
The worrying aspect for them is the lack of walk ups and the good work Locke is doing ripping the support apart and making them painful to watch :greengrin
And to think they have a congratulatory thread to themselves over by on getting 13000 yesterday, and not one dissenting voice. Truly deludedQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
So a quick back of packet calculation, for £50, BDO are giving a comfy seat (£30), pre-match meal and wine (£15), half time pies and tea (£5), and a free bar, that's some deal. Surely BJ is a Hibbie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
GGTTH
Despite what many fans think, and yams are thicker than most, not many players put the team they support before their livelihoods. Denis Law didn't knock back Man City, and didn't pull out of scoring the goal for City that relegated United.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibseleven
If Hibs came calling, and were the only ones to do so or had the best wages offer for him, McDonald would sign for us.
MacDonald isn't that good a keeper if you ask me. His positioning for a lot of goals is bad.
But from what I'm hearing Big Ben won't be going anywhere.
Thats great news if what you are hearing is correct. :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
For the record, I'm not saying Macdonald is a better keeper than BW and should come to hibs. I'm simply saying that he's been their best player and helped keep the odd point and goal difference down.
Sounds promising TC. :-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
Now that's the sort of news I like to hear, it will be a sad day when he eventually does go thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
I don't see how that could be a tax dodge as the bigger they claim the attendance to be the more income tax and VAT they would be due to pay. If anything you would expect them to illegally declare smaller crowds and pocket some cash to avoid tax. :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
The police are always given the true attendance. I can assure you they are always a good bit lower than reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gmack7
Great news, but is there any chance one of our ex strikers is on the radar?Quote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
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They (should) have already paid all taxes on ST money. They (should) only be paying tax on walk-up tickets. They only declare large/sell-out crowds as they are deluded fannies. Many years ago all teams under-declared crowds as a tax dodge. Often sell-out crowds at Darkhead were reported as 5,000 less.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Do you tell people this?:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Sir Alf R
Not often! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
I heard from someone inside Tynie the other night that the direct debits tailed off in December. The fans are rapidly losing faith and have basically thrown in the towel.
I wont even tell people that my brother-in-law is actually a ****bo oops!:greengrin:Quote:
Originally Posted by fatbloke
We ALL have our crosses to bear it seems ! :DQuote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
At the beginning of this month a few FoH pledgers were tweeting the FoH twitter account asking for the % of pledges. the FoH responded that the figure was not available, but would be published the following week. Since then, silence, no answers and no more queries.
The FoH even published their first news-letter last week with only a note about the fans " fantastic loyalty " but no mention of facts or figures.
Seems to go against the FoH stated Mantra of total honesty and transparency at all levels. They are sh*tting it in case it leads to a cancellation stampede !
We should really be encouraging them to ask questions.
Interestingly I met up with a friend this morning , in his70's died in the wool Jambo who bought a ST , for the reason you mention , along with two of his mates of a similar age .Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenStar
They have been at two games since the start of the season !!
" Waiting until next season to see what happens and may go back then " ( Quote)
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I know people who bought an extra seat also - just so the club could get the cash. Think it's been used once all season and that was at the start for the derby against us.Quote:
Originally Posted by jdships
They report one number for the press and put that on the website - but the police and others at the PBS know this isn't the number of individuals actually in the stadium.
Its starting now. They are even turning on Locke & Brown now.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Pleasing.
GG, they didn't ask questions when their share certificates weren't issued, they didn't ask questions when the season ticket money disappeared so they're unlikely to be manning the barricades over F of H not giving out DD detail. I'm sure you're correct though, the absence of news means there is no good news! Pleasing!Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Yes civil war at Tyne castle and it's just Christmass Just wait till a few weeks after x mass when those that pledged more and went without themselves for the greater good of the cause realise it was all in vain They won't be out of administration and no new players signed and staring down the relegation barrel .wonder who will pull the Trigger first as it all implodes Think there will be a few arrests at away end in Derby as we taunt them ,beat them and send them home humiliated as they play out there last act of defiance Oh forgot they will be back for the semi final and if they loose that they will be looking to trash the place ,Morons some of themQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
It's obvious to anyone inside the stadium that the figures are nonsense.
The whole stadium holds approx 17.5k
The Roseburn stand holds approx 3.5k.
That leaves approx 14000 for hearts fans in the other 3 stands
Killie took about 500-750 yesterday
13,684 total - 750 Killie fans = 12934 Hearts fans
14,000 available seats - 12934 fans =
That means in the Hearts part of the stadium there was only approx 1066 empty seats in the 3 Hearts stands?
No way.
I haven't heard anything regarding Leigh, Spoke to Kenny the other day and nothing's changed. He'd love to come and I think come Jan Dave his agent will be in touch with Hibs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs07p
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Originally Posted by Hibs07p
seriously ! in the wongadome ? :faf::faf::rotflmao:
I was hoping his agent would already have been in touch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
Thanks
GGTTH
They probably had this one ear marked for a guaranteed three points and Bumper crowd to boot ?The deluded last supper would be good title for the Buffet.If they don't have to sell a few players in January I hope some one in the new set up is examining the books In business it may be administration can go on indefinitely but in a league that's already not an easy sell to fSponsers do we really want this embarrassing charade of begging bowel antics and false sympathy prevailing just to watch more beatings and humiliations . you know what I think I do am really beginning to enjoy watching the screw being turned and the deluded ones continued proclamations of self belief. it truly is a sight to behold and a joyous occasion to celebrate Bring on the Derby I am with Andy on this one .Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Pleasing hehe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
Would be great to see kenny running out against hahahearts on the 2nd
If asked under an FOI request they are usually quick to provide these.Quote:
Originally Posted by inglisavhibs
Celtic and Rangers fans have both done this recently for each other. Figures are freely available.Quote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
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Originally Posted by degenerated
I did an FoI request to Police Scotland last June asking for the correct attendance figures at Tynie and Easter Road. The repose I got was the Club's own figures .
Example ... Hearts vs St Mirren 17/11/12 Att. 16,443
Hearts vs St Mirren 2/5/2013 Att. 16,312
Utter nonsense.
Could it be the way you asked the question? I.e you asked them for the attendance to which they will just give you the clubs official attendance were as you might receive a very different figure if you asked the question "what figure were police Scotland given by hmfc to provide adequate police attendance at the fixture"?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
I asked for the " actual count of spectators attending each SPL match at Easter Road and Tynecatle last season ".
the reply read " here are the figures the respective clubs provided ".
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
As is well documented,they have since the romanov era given the crowd figures including a full season ticket number plus walk ups.
Not quite sure why . Maybe its a big team thing