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We also have the privilege of getting England national games. I don't think England get subjected to Sportscene. But if somebody in England really wanted to torture themselves, they could simply open up their BBC iPlayer app and change their geographic location to Scotland.Quote:
Originally Posted by 007
Nor is it “viewers in Scotland “ (copyright BBC) job to “subsidise”Match of the Day by that rationale?Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
We pay the same license fee; unless you can afford to pay for a subscription channel, you cannot watch your national team live on terrestrial TV. On that same terrestrial channel (and ITV) you can watch all of England’s matches (I.e. NOT) your own country.
“Tough ****” seems to be the prevailing response to that from certain posters on here.
England games aren't on BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by HarpOnHibee
Commercial channels wanted England games. SFA went with Viaplay. I like watching Match of thr Day. What's the problem? Why can't I have that choice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither
Bang on. We should meekly accept national team games not being free to air plus a highlights package that's beyond amateurish. Got to know our place in the hierarchy 😒Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither
I'm sorry, is this a five minute argument, or the full half hour?Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
No I want a publicly funded body to treat its public on an equal basis no matter where they are. We get well presented programmes on English football including the FA Cup and England internationals (AFAIK) with well paid presenters aimed at English viewers whilst as Scot’s we get absolute tripe aimed at us.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
It’s not difficult to understand if you get your union specs off. You can surely see Scots in this case are not equally catered for by a publicly funded body. Or can you?
You want to be asking the SFA why that is, not the BBC.Quote:
Originally Posted by bringbackbenny
I actually like Sportscene. Keeping it real. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
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Originally Posted by marinello59
You can have that “choice” as long as you can afford it. Meanwhile “viewers in Scotland” (copyright the BBC, along with “news where you are”), don’t get that choice unless you fork out for it, over and above the broadcasting equivalent of the poll tax, aka the licence fee.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
I totally get the inappropriate subsidy argument and instinctively agree with it. It depends on being able to compare what you put in to what you get out though. Is there reliable stats for what the Beeb's English football budget brings in? We need that first, surely, to know if the coverage of English football isn't a subsidy.
Also, and again I don't know without stats, what is the budget for the arts, and what does that recover?
This quote courtesy of the BBC!Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
I know you see everything through the prism of the constitution, but this is just silly. The BBC isn't showing England internationals. I'm pleased that EPL highlights and SPL highlights are still free to air. The issue appears to be that the BBC should pay more for the coverage in Scotland. Taking off the grievance specs, why? And the idea that people in Scotland don't want to see the EPL is daft. Would I like the Scottish programme to be better? Yes. So rather than trying to make a constitution issue out of it, why don't you say how you would like it to be better?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
The SFA chose to go with the UEFA deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither
Is BBC coverage of English football a subsidy though?Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
So what would that mean in practice? The BBC volunteers to pay the same for the rights to Scottish football as they do in England. Or why not match Sky?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Which closes off large swathes of the population that can’t afford a subscription channel.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
Were we to have our own broadcaster we might get a better deal than we’re getting at the moment.
A subsidy of what? It's a commercial bid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
I agree on the viaplay deal. I think it's much better if the national team is on free to air.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither
I agree with you that Scottish football is a bit underserved by the BBC but by your rationale, would we then also have to cater for Welsh and Northern Irish football equally?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Yes, and why shouldn’t an organisation that styles itself as “the national broadcaster” cater for all countries equally?Quote:
Originally Posted by Clarence
Because the only country that matters is England...Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither
What does that mean in practice?Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither
By a publicly funded broadcaster. What is the business case to justify it to the licence fee payer?Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
Leaving aside the politically based BBC bashing, surely Sportscene could do a better job with its current budget?
Proper tactical analysis, giving each game a sensible allocation of air time, fewer jobs for the boys and less sticking up for their mates.
By devolving broadcasting for a start…Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
There's that as well, but it's not as much fun :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by Eyrie
Right - now we are what this is about.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scotty Leither