Nowt, nada, nothing to see, business as usual :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpdhfc
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Nowt, nada, nothing to see, business as usual :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jpdhfc
Had a look on the Hearts ticket site out of noseyness. They still have a lot of tickets left for tomorrow, have hardly sold a ticket for the Celtic cup game (remember Hearts don't have a cup top up so no seasons to mask figures) and not many have been sold for the Inverness game. It is true that when Hearts are not playing well their crowd, even at such desperate times like this, disappears. Big club, my arse.
My feeling is ño but is that just my heart hoping soQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Yes happy for them to survive but as a new club in he bottomQuote:
Originally Posted by Eternal Hibbie
Division anything else would be a travisty:cb
To get back on track, the most relevant post of the last few days has been from Mikey. He simply questioned why the hearing had been put back a week.
Obviously there is something happening to scupper the CVA.
A bit of background info on Lithuania. It's economy had one year of deep recession (2010), after which is has shown remarkable growth, albeit with highish unemployment. The point here is that the Lith Govt are not desparate for cash; they are not stupid either and will not take a knock down price for an 'asset' that is worth more than is being offered.
So far it's clear that Hearts are still beating there life in them yet as they keep beating us Big Tell has a different mind set already so we want to be able to give them what the deserve a few holdings before they slink away to the first division then we want to cup them in the Scottish cup and hump them 7. 0 then couldn't care what happens to them after that :not worth
I think they have a different attitude to sports clubs over there. Look at the way Vladimir mucked about his Lith football club, putting them down to amateur status, his high flying basketball club disbanded or something similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
I don't think there's any good reason to think a foreign sports club, who have just robbed them of millions, can expect any favours.
I agree, but I wish they'd just get on with it and lower the boom so I can start the party.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
**** the h****s
One thing is certain.
It's going to be a very, very nervy week for our pink pals.
Good.:greengrin
Event: Estate agents value land near PBS at 5m up.
Banderson: Property Market Toasts Hearts Resurgence.
Top work G :hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
:tee hee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
Is that speculation or fact ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Filled Rolls
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
I think it might have been a joke.
It's a fact, I live with Barry Anderson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
Probably closer to the truth than you think.
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I think that is about what it probably is worth so I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ryan91
A query for one of our Insolvency experts. Does Insolvency law limit the number of times the the CVA vote can be postponed ?
Yes. The meeting must happen within fourteen days so 5th December is the latest date it could happen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seveno
Did anyone hear Brian McGlaughlin from BBC Sportsound pre our game. He was blustering as normal but did say that while yams hopeful, acceptance of CVA is far from a certainty and doubt remains. Given he is close to BDO bloke i would say we could have an interesting few days coming up.
Expectations management. I'm expecting more of the same next week from the media trumpets who trumpeted 'CVA inevitable' 'CVA 95% certain' etc to begin their campaign of self-exoneration. Also expecting some FOH caginess.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
The best they can hope for is no change. We could easily find ourselves without a game on 2nd January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
... and if it doesn't?Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
Can someone confirm i'm correct in thinking there is no way Hearts can be out of admin by Xmas?
Had a fud bending my ear today that if they got out of admin by Xmas and signed a few good players in January it could set them up for the next few years.
I'm convinced with the 30 day cooling off period and the CVA vote delayed until the 29th at the earliest that there is now way they can exit admin this year.
Player embargo from SFA is till February.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
29th of December is the earliest bdo can start taking them out of administration. How long will that take though? And hey cant sign anyone until they are out of admin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
No chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
And they're signin nae **** in January
Only for over 21s. They could loan under 21s in January if they are out of admin.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Woopy doo. Not exactly more youngsters they need at the moment.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Antwerphibs
Does the transfer window close midnight 31 Jan? :confused:
Yes. But hearts will be able to sign anyone who is unattached at midnight on January 31, in February. Like sevco did with their numerous pre contracts. (Assuming they're out of admin)Quote:
Originally Posted by EdinCapitals
Thanks for the clarification :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by Antwerphibs
Difference of course is Sevco were doing it at a start of a season. Can't see many top players hanging off signing for somebody in the hope of playing for the ****bos rooted to foot of table with 4 months of season to play.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Antwerphibs
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
The noises from the pink propaganda palace have been somewhat muted in the last few days. Looks to me as if there has been a dilution of their cwa certainty.
That's my big fear - that the last derby for a long time will be that last sad debacle.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Is Ngoo still under 21? Please say he isQuote:
Originally Posted by Antwerphibs
I was talking to somebody in the office about this. He reckons earliest they will get outline agreement is end of december. Process for taking them officially out of admin will average 4-8 weeks but Lithuanian factor and also that bigger wider company admin going on (and focus in this) could mean 12 weeks. So lets say end if March best case!!!
Wonder how may out of contract match fit players are available at end of March???
Drove past the Wonga Dome, down Mcleod street and saw they had use of the Old Tynecastle School playground for parking again. Hope they are being made to pay for it ... in advance.Quote:
Originally Posted by brog
The folk who think hearts will sign anyone decent are seriously deluded! They are skint and I mean skint. Even if they did get through this it's fan owned and there is no money. Hearts as we know them are dead. They will struggle for many years now as they are going down no matter what.
Mind that wee club hertz who *****ed their whole club to beat us a couple of times? Cute
I can't see them signing anybody in the next window.
The only thing I can see them doing in the next window is throwing themselves out of it, and that's if the next window is in a multi-story block of flats.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibercelona
Not a bad attendance at the PBS 12,508
Getting lower and lower with every passing home game. :wink:
Pleasing
Hopefully the only thing they'll be signing over the next couple of months is a death certificate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibercelona
They'll lose a couple if anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibercelona
For all most of their youngsters range from overrated to downright pish there are a couple who are decent and English Championship and League 1 clubs love a bargain.
Holt, Walker and Patterson are decent.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
If Hearts hoped to survive in the Premiership today was a must win at home against one of the clubs at the bottom of the league. Shame they could only draw.
Paterson could do a job for us. Should be obtainable for a knock down price in January.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
That was a relegation defining result. A home game meant they had to make up points. It's getting worse by the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Strange thing is they've just got a youth player from Dunfermilne costing £4000 compensation ,god knows how that works or if they've paid itQuote:
Originally Posted by Thecat23
Would be nice if Hibs signed a couple. Really rub their noses in it. My preference for the yams is that whatever survives becomes a feeder club for us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
Took the dumb barstewards 175 to suss me. eventually twigged my username Les Niven eas an anagram of seven nil - fudleys.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
December is going to be a big month for them. They'll be pumped out the cup by Celtic, and I doubt they'll get anything from visits to Parkhead and Tannadice, and might even receive two morale-sapping savage beatings there. They play St Mirren at Love Street, and have home fixtures against ICT and Killie, the latter one probably being a must-win for them.
The threadbare squad might pick up injuries around then, and I think there will be an intensely darkening financial picture. I'm hoping for the pleasurable fiasco of an FOH CVA, but I expect this won't happen, with the decision being further deferred (in which they are privately told to up their bid) and a prolonged administration with more begging to fans and businesses.
I really hope they make the 2nd Jan so that we have the opportunity to erase the embarrassment of the last two encounters, but I have to be honest and say I ain't confident.
And the share certificates still won't be issued.
Their next league fixtures are
Dundee utd away 7th Dec
ICT home 14th Dec
Celtic away 21st Dec
Really cannot see them taking anything from these three matches and they are already 12 points behind Kilmarnock.
On the 26th they play Killie at home
i suspect hertz would like to play us every other week....nae luck yamboids
1066 and all that!:cb
we could make a tapestry of this whole thread, in years to come:cbQuote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Or....we could use this thread to make a tapestry :na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
I'll get my own coat and taxi thankyou :greengrin
Nil poi. Then again they surprised us all by beating Aberdeen away.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
They've taken 4 points from their last 2 games when, on both occasions, they were losing while facing 11 men. Also, per reports they should have been buried in both games ( dons missing a pen ) before the sendings off. It's a temporary glimmer of light shortly to be snuffed out! :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
No. They don't. Love Street Stadium was demolished and a Supermarket was to be built in its place, that never came to fruition and now it looks like it'll be houses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Hang on. That story sounds familiar. Could it be about to happen to another club?
We can only live and hope?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Tapestry Great carol king album from the 70s One of her songs was called Why Doesn't Anyone Live In One Place Anymore .Bet the Lithuanian Tax guys wish this was the case Has anyone any idea if Romanov has surfaced any where in that Submarine of his . As for the Jambs the only Tapestry they will be weaving won't be The Paisley Pattern , it will be trying to weave there way out the third Division with this Talented Group of youngsters we keep hearing about Let's see how they get on in the lower leaguesQuote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
When are we likely to see some outcomes from the PM board news at the end of last week? I'm still not aware of what the scoop was but that's cause I'm tight ;-)
:yawn: that is SO last week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
The scoop was basically an informed opinion on what will happen.so I think we should find out on Friday when we hear if the Cva is accepted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
I think it's safe to say ye'll no see it on here...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
Yeah it was only someones opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Sums this whole situation up perfectly for me:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
Some of us crave,need and demand a proper outcome to this situation !!!!!
Some of us will follow the info that will lead us to our personal "GFRUY" relief !!!!
I feel most,not all on this site need justice to be done and are willing true justice to prevail!!!
the fact that the general media have ignored the theft and cast aside of honest everyday people
makes this circus all the more aggravating,annoying and disgusting !!!
if members on this forum claim to know the outcome and would like to tease rather than confirm this scenario,then be aware of our backlash!!!!!! If these ******* get away with this!!!!
:greengrin
Nobody KNOWS anything other than the Lithuanian administrators of Ukio and Ubig. We just have to wait and see what they do at the end of the week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glesgahibby
They've got their work cut out but I didn't like Pascali's comments in the Scotsman this morning. He says that if Killie can't get their act together, they look likely to be relegated automatically. Music to the Jambos ears as I think they would win in a dogfight with Killie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Waxy
No problem I just thought someone might have heard something over the weekend. With Hearts being at home i thought there would be some gossip floating around. Some yam friends on Facebook posted some pics of themselves in hospitality which looked pretty busy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Fair doos spike,you are correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
I would love to see the media balance this debacle out rather than pantomise the yams as somehow being the cinderella with ukio and ubig being the uglies.
Do they not have over 10,000 season ticket holders? Not going to pay a lot of wages from 2,508.Quote:
Originally Posted by Www1875hfc
Not sure bout the ST's as Mad Vlad did one with the money they took in for about 7,000 (ish) (putting it in the same suit case as the Share monies).Quote:
Originally Posted by MB62
Did they not get 3,000 stumping up more cash for ST at the request of BDO to help them survive.
If it is true bout 2508 by the time you take off match day costs etc doesn't leave a lot for the biscuit tin!!
Think they defo got ten k they were 1k behind us till they were told by BDO to start buying them or dieQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
Caught fantasising in public...Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
did this not happen with st Johnston and asda,im sure asda built them a new stadium so they could have the land of the old stadium,could be wrong butQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
YupQuote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
so does this mean Tesco could by *********** for the land and build them a brand new stadium somewhere else for freeQuote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
Why would they? The above mentioned bought the grounds from the clubs, not an administrator ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
No, totally different situation. Those clubs sold their stadiums and as part of the deal new stadiums were built for those clubs giving up their sites in the locations the supermarkets wanted tae build.Quote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
h****s are not flogging their site as part of any deal, it will be being flogged by the administrators/liquidators tae pay off debts.
And the ****s will also be eliminated. :greengrin :partyhibb
:brokenyam:
:hahaha::jamboclow
The others were also in areas the supermarkets wanted to build in, and where no clear alternative sites existed nearby.
Gorgie/Chesser has a few alternatives (google the Fruitmarket and Morrisons for one example) which reduces any rush to offer deals that are overly kind to a company now synonymous with charity theft
I just wish it would hurry up and happen, so a can dance on their grave :greengrin
:-DQuote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
There's 2 words that don't get used enough in the same SEntence DD
Hearts and eliminated
This is why it's really no win for Hearts. If the ground is worth something for a developer then the rumours may be true and they'll buy it for £2.5M+.Quote:
Originally Posted by Springbank
If it's not then the yams find themselves playing football in the 1st division with a stadium that is falling apart, expensive to maintain and worth no more than £2.5M. There is no way they can save enough money to renovate or build a new stadium before the problems become too large to keep playing at tynecastle.
Twenty folk in there would make it look busy :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Fat Penlon
nice,trying to think of ways they could come out the ****@ barrel smelling of roses,looks like they are at a dead end,a jambo told me a property developer has bid £4 for swine castle too,don't know if it is hammocks or not bit he was a bit worriedQuote:
Originally Posted by Mellow Hibee
i just can't wait to here they are dead
£4 wow!Quote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
More money than sense obviously :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Someone mentioned the other day a site at 396-400 Gorgie Road was going on the market with planning for student accommodation for offers over £ 2 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellow Hibee
https://citydev-portal.edinburgh.gov...=LQQP3PEW7N000
That will be the site, 0.61 hectares ( 1.5 acres ) and is about 1 mile further from town but does have a main street frontage.
The PBS is 6 acres and the offer is £ 2.5 million. Can Lithuanians do sums ?
There was a FOH Q&A tonight. Judging by the reports on kickback they're not quite as confident of a CVA anymore.
That`s certainly what the stadium`s worth. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Unfortunately for the FoH, the land their asbestos riddled, crumbling deathtrap sits on is quality real estate and adds a few million onto the asking price. :greengrin
don't want to look at kickback as I would feel dirty. What are they saying and what was said by foh?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mellow Hibee
I think they have been told to up their bid because they have received a better one than the £2.5mQuote:
Originally Posted by SurferRosa
CVA will be delayed for another seven daysQuote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
CVA can't be delayed again after that
Nobody knows if cva will go through
Some ***** about budgeting for relegation
nobody on FOH is taking any salary etc
Investors are all hearts fans and not going to make any profit on investment
If Valnetas accept, circa 1.5 to 2 million for the whole kit and kaboodle ( which is likely to be about all they`ll get after BDO have grabbed their fees in full ), i`d like to be a fly on the wall when they give their explanation to the Lithuanian government of why they found that sum acceptable when they could likely realise around 3 or 4 times that amount in an auction. Especially as they`re owed around 15 million.Quote:
Originally Posted by leggeto
" If you have not pledged, PLEDGE!
- Get anybody you know who has not pledged, PLEDGE.
- If you have pledged, and you can afford it, PLEDGE MORE. "
Clearly, this is how a 'big' club operates. :faf:
Surely they could just get all the excess PLEDGE that Gary MacKay has left over after polishing his medals.
From the keekback....my comments in the black :greengrin
Possible further delay of 7 days for CVA..... shock
- CVA then can't be delayed further .....Squeaky bum time...
- Hopeful CVA approved but no guarantees...thought they were already celebrating?
- Investors all Hearts fans and not making anything for their investments....great people
- Investors not revealead....I wonder why!
- Investors to be repaid in 3 years when Hearts will be owned by the fans (once in a lifetime opportunity)...more loans and more debts - wonder what the interest is?
- Need to get to 10k pledgers (average pledge £16 per month)...still quite a bit away...
- Currently 7,600 signed up....muppets...what happened to the 400,000?
- Budget for next 3 years includes worse case scenario (relegated & out cups 1st round)..lets hope this happens and they come back to reality
- Marketing being delayed until CVA decision made...can't wait to see the marketing..
- If positive outcome more details and incentives will come out and marketing will go into full drive...exciting times...
- FOH doing all work in own time and unpaid....great...give yourself a medal
- Need to tap into support for skilled people (lawyers/financial advisers/business experts) to get involved...the way big teams operate
- If CVA agreed club still needs support, this is only the beginning and fans will need to keep supporting the FOH...can't see fans doing this plus a ST every year.
- Two boards, mirror image (FOH investors & FOH board) FOH board will repay the investment over 3 years....see above - loans and more debt
- Legal agreements being drawn up but not yet finalised due to legal costs..won't be cheap
- Money is there for the club to complete the season...great - we hopefully will see them relegated or even better relegate them when we play again at the PBS
- No budget for players (wheeling and dealing may be possible I.e free transfers but that is )..you can't sign players yet..your still in Admin...basically more kids...
- Gary Locke doing a great job under the circumstances...well done...relegation will look good on the CV
- If relegated season ticket prices will probably drop...doubt it
- TV revenue if relegated is unknown..basically not much...
- If you have not pledged, PLEDGE...begging bowl out once again..
- Get anybody you know who has not pledged, PLEDGE....CRINGE
- If you have pledged, and you can afford it, PLEDGE MORE. CRINGE...BIG TEAM = BIG TROUBLE
- THIS IS A ONCE IN A LIFETIME OPPORTUNITY FOR US FANS TO OWN OUR CLUB AND SHAPE ITS FUTURE - short term plan...long term not sustainable.
That's about all I can remember.
:greengrin Will send these to FOH headquarters first thing tomorrow!Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
bursting with pride to be doing my bit!:aok:
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