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Originally Posted by gackohibs
aaah so, basically....heart of midlothian FC want fans of other football clubs to help pay for the non-payment of PAYE/NIC contributions etc etc :confused: they can charge their own foolish fans whatever they want and i'm fine with that...but wanting other clubs fans to stump up is just ****** incredible :bitchy:
who was the old yam fart with the bling/awful tattoos in todays Sun? Typically embarrassing hearts fan. That's someone's dad ffs!!
there's no end to the levels they stoop.
surely time for all other fans to make sure they go to the wall. A club who have cheated for decades deserves all they get. their smugness shall never be forgotten. hope they rot in hell. rodents.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
That pint is taking forever!
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_2818454
Says it all really
Best £10 I ever spent.
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Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
Someone copy and paste that to the jumbos board
I am not getting this. It is from the time of the Rangers debacle (I assume) as the article is dated June 21st?Quote:
Originally Posted by euansdad
Cheaper than any financial adviser for any Yam still wondering whether to give Sir Vlad their cash. Can't tell any lurkers what it says, but just don't give that man a penny. Save your cash to build a new club which we will patronise for years to come. Forget all the big team nonsense, famous old club, two world wars, it's over.Quote:
Originally Posted by happyhibbie
For you Johnny Yam, the war is over.
Yup, Romanov's arrogance and lying amongst other thingsQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
I think they must give them at least Half a stand :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
It's the hypocrisy of the moralistic views of Romanov in relation to the Huns plight given what's happening nowQuote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
They seem to have a weird mental block where they can't connect their Scottish Cup victories to their irresponsible overspending and subsequent financial problems.
Apparantly we "died on the 19th May". Really?! They'll soon know what real death is.
Fair enough, I thought people were implying that this statement was released today...Quote:
Originally Posted by euansdad
beered out at this end :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
why is the beer so tasty and cheap :-)
Was at te cup final and remember the hurt and their triumphalism and arrogance well. Hope they are hurting big time now. Genuine supporters, fair enough but they have more than their share of arrogant and bigoted, cheating ****mers in every nook and crannie of their club
Looking forward to this info from Sergey. Think he's lying in a gutter by now though lol.
Goth through 4 Taliskers in the same time as that ****ing pint!
it's in the PM boardQuote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Haven't got time to search back through the thread, so maybe someone can answer this, but the billy sitch quoted in theRecord today says - "if it wasn't for Hearts, who saved Scottish football all those years ago, fans wouldn't have a club"
WTF?:confused:
Well they single handedly won both world wars so in a way they saved scottish football.Quote:
Originally Posted by surreyhibbie
Apologise if I'm being thick, how do I see that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
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It's called irony bud. He could have been talking about his own club today.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
Pay a tenner and you're in :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Ok how do I sign up? :flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by tamig
"What about speaking to Donald Trump? $3.1 billion fortune according to wikipedia, wants to invest in Scotland, would raise his profile in Scotland, find favour with Scotland's First Minister, find favour with the Scottish public.
I ken he's an absolute erse, but a wee investment in Hearts is buttons for him and, though it's a long shot, the idea of making a goodwill investment in Scotland could conceivably appeal to him. "
lol kickback is absolute gold
http://www.hibs.net/forumdisplay.php...ate-MembershipQuote:
Originally Posted by green glory
They won the battle, we will win the war!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pames McJake
Hallelujah!Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
:D
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Fandabidozi. And he's in! Off to get another smooth Talisker before I read Sergey's info.:rockin:Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Get yerselfs onto the PM forum folks. Not only will you help in keeping this wonderful forum running you will also get yourself some very interesting news!
particularly if you're a doubting thomas :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by essexhibee
Haha fair play :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Public soon enough. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Desperate Dan
Not World War I. They won that single handedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
I actually dont have a tenner in the bank. Gutted.
Please keep the info posted to oneself :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
I'll raise your Talisker with a wee Highland Park :cheers:
I actually dont have a tenner in the bank. Gutted.
My lips are sealed.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
Let's have a gentleman's measure then :greengrin
There's a few whisky drinkers on the forum - Marinello59 being one that partakes.
Kampai
If you haven't signed up to be a private member. Do it now :greengrin
Indeed. Might treat myself to bottle of Old Pultney and lay it aside for a 'special occasion'.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
But Please Keep It To The PM Board. :aok:
Well worth a 10 spot.
:cb
Yellow Van waiting.Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
A few of the things he says are true but he is forgetting he is part of the problem not the solution. Only a few nails left in the coffin now by the sound of things.
Partly trying to see if I get one of those Hectors...
I thought this bit from the Hearts directors statement was significant:
Their position is so desperate they need cash (or have their UK banking facilities been frozen?)Quote:
Supporters who purchase shares should know that cash sales will see the club take possession of the money up to a week faster than any other method.
I also thought this post from the St Mirren forum was spot on:
I don't know the economics of St Mirren - but I know they have fans like this their future is assured.Quote:
I won't be bullied by Gilmour or anyone else into overpaying for crap.
If Gilmour wants to end St Mirren's financial trouble he simply needs to stop offering new contracts which pay above £200 or £300 a week.
If that means we go to Division 1 but stay in business then so be it. This obsession with SPL football is killing the game.
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Originally Posted by SteveHFC
PM for £10 - in the immortal words of that manky mob "I'm in" and I'll tell you what if that information comes to pass, and I've no reason to doubt, then it's a tenner well spent.
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Originally Posted by Www1875hfc
Yup.
What happens in Vegas should STAY in Vegas. :wink:
It's absolute dynamite and I have no reason to disbelieve Sergey.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Hearts doomsday clock is sitting at one second to midnight. :agree:
Right come on guys tell us low life's what the ****s happened!!!! Plleeeaaasssee!!!!! Even just PM me I need to know!!!
374 posts and you haven't even stumped a tenner in support of this very site.Quote:
Originally Posted by edinburghhibee
Hang your head in shame!
It's shameful ain't it?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
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I'm away to ardnamurchan this morning, I've packed a bottle of macallan 15 to help me enjoy the peace and quiet and obviously the demise of the jamtards.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
I'll try to stay sober long enough to find that "bothy on the knoydart" though :greengrin
Over 130 different Whiskies in the house. I may have to sample them all before this is overQuote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
It's my daughter's wedding today, don't normally touch the stuff but I'll be having a Glenlivet.
Today is not only a sad day for edinburgh but also a sad day for scotland! An institution that had been entertaining and serving one side of edinburgh's people for many years is now in it's final few weeks, maybe even days :( I would like to take this opportunity to thank all the staff at comet hermiston gate for all their help !!
Brilliant, stolen for facebookQuote:
Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
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Originally Posted by Hot Shot Hamish
Johnnie Walker Blue Label, numbered limited edition...... Pulled out from storage in readiness :DQuote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
Out of interest where does the tenner for PM membership go?
I am desperate for them to last until the 2nd December as I really want to play them one last time - I don't want my last derby memory to be of that game!
The hawrts fighting fund of course - where else?Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
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We have played them since the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsmad
You have to pay to fight them ??? I usually just smack them when they come down Easter Road! 😄Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
Paying the server costs for the site. It doesn't run itself you know :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
Just joined after many years of reading, however when I tried to become a private member I got a message saying that there were no paid subscriptions available?? Do I need to first prove that I'm not a delusional yam with my head buried in the sand?Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
Really ????Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
My sarcasm classes are paying off.
I know we have and sorry my post wasn't clearer. It's just that a draw at home in a half filled stadium was not my ideal derby experience and was not enough to give me any sort of comfort following the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
I think the game on the 2nd would be close to a sell out and, given their current plight, would be a real party attmosphere. I could handle that being my last derby memory!
How do I become a private member from my phone?
Out at the moment and don't have access to a computer
Taken from Vlad's rant
"I feel that it is absolutely realistic to create a company that would bring to Scottish clubs at least the same broadcasting income, and even grow it by 50-100% over the next two to three years. This company should be in the hands of Scottish clubs and work with those who want to earn money the honest way, instead of conducting business the Murdoch way."
During the Summer, Sportsound had various discussions about the demise of Scottish football due to the Rangers being punted to SFL3.
In one of them Yorkston of Dunfy told of how oor Rod had put forward a scheme for an SPL t.v., that was blocked by the O.F.
Now, we all know Rod is not the type to push for something that he hadn't thought through, and I've read and heard comments from him recently regarding the silly kick-off times we're subjected to.
So I hope this is something that he's still working on, as it could be the way forward for Scottish football.
Unfortunately it looks like Hertz won't benefit from it!:boo hoo:
Sergey has asked us to keep his info to the PM board and we'll respect that.
IMO private membership is worth every penny anyway but it's even better when we get wee snippets of info like this :greengrin
£10 a year is hardly a massive sum of money to keep this site running smoothly and every penny that we raise ends up going back to Hibs in some form or other.
I've said it before but it works out at less than 3p per day to support the site. :thumbsup:
Perhaps we should look at a payment plan :tee hee:
I'll be over that way on Friday afternoon - heading from Glenfinnan to Tobermory. I'll keep a look out for any drunk hibees at the side of the road.Quote:
Originally Posted by degenerated
http://www.animecrazy.net/forums/mem...mugness2-1.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
:greengrin
It doesn't? Geez learn sumit new every day ;-), fair enough I was just interested and to be honest what I much expected.Quote:
Originally Posted by Barney McGrew
seemingly they've pulled plug on their u20 games at Newtongrange and playing them at Tcastle for an entrance fee. Desperate times, desperate measures.
after the cost of staff(if they decide to pay them) undersoil heating, stewards and floodlights if its a night game then surely they will make a loss as i can't see too many people attending that, unless its £100 a ticket, they are great at chucking money awayQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
Or have Newtongrange pulled the plug on them?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
:dunno:
mair like it :agree: probably owed a fair wedge.Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
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Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Think it would probably be fair to say that hibs.net now has considerably more money than hearts
Bitter hobos.Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
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Originally Posted by 7062
no offence meant, but if you have been a long term reader then pretty sure you will understand people being suspicious re: you wanting private membership ? 'many years' of reading and all of a sudden jumping to PM :greengrin i don't think it's anything to do with proving your 'hibbyness' :dunno: and no, i'm certainly NOT suggesting you are anything but a hibby :wink:
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Originally Posted by Hibernia Na Eir
makes common sense, it means they will be able to sell their state of the art world famous mini bus, i bet they would get a few quid for it :agree: has anyone got a photo of said mini bus :greengrin
c'mon remember the sale of cakes, soup and face painting etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Just bitter hobos
Some trumpet on Kickback who attended the Inverness Fans meeting last night posted this ditty......Big Team Big Spend :greengrin
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Asked about the largesse of the Romanov years Southern came up with an interesting nugget from the 2007-08 season saying there were three players from that squad who cost Hearts £100,000 a game (Pinilla obviously, Kingston..any other takers?!)
How else do you expect the admins to fund their holidays? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
None taken and I've read the posts for long enough to expect a new member to initially be met with with a tad suspicion. I actually tried to sign up a while ago, but something went wrong with my password or something along those lines.Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
The reason I'm jumping straight to private membership is cos I'm dying to read whatever info is on the PM board regarding them. I'll bide my time though as I'm sure it'll come out eventually.
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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
No problem :greengrin
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Originally Posted by robinp
obua maybe :dunno: he was on a fair whack iirc
It gets better in today's Scotsman Fedotovas says "supporters who purchase shares should know that CASH sales will see the club in receipt of the money faster than other methods" oh and "any cheques should be made out to Come And Save Hearts (CASH) for ease of administration. They are getting royally pumped right in front of our eyes!
I will see your highland park with a glenfiddich 12 & raise it with a Lagavulin 16 - I'm signed up now too, i will also keep the info to the PM board!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
My only question is will Hibs.net put in a bid for 'The Hertz'??? :dunno: ...we could keep Webster & let the young laddies use swiney as their home pitch! :greengrin
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Originally Posted by poolman
Mmmmm nah that's not it, i was positive i had a photo of the run-down rust-laden piece of junk...alongside the pristine condition hibs bus :greengrin
Found this link which puts it all into simple English
http://www.mlmsolutions.co.uk/Blog/i...ext-steps.html
the last line is good:greengrin
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Liquidation
Liquidation is in the news this week following yesterday’s revelation that Hearts Football Club is facing possible closure following the presentation of a petition for winding up to the court by HMRC. So why is this different from the situation faced by Rangers FC in February of this year?Why was the statement which was issued by the Hearts’ board yesterday pitched in such dark terms?
The answer is really in the difference between the purposes of Administration –which was the process originally entered into by Rangers – and liquidation, which is the prospect facing Hearts. Administration is a rescue process. Its primary purpose is to save a company, or at least save the underlying business, which is what happened at Rangers. The old Rangers PLC is now in liquidation but the business of the football club continues.
Liquidation, on the other hand, is a process which is designed to bring about the closure of a business and to ensure that its affairs are brought to an orderly conclusion. There are 2 ways of doing this but the procedure in the news this week is Winding up by the Court.
Winding Up by the Court
This procedure involves the presentation of a petition to the sheriff court nearest to where the company has its main business interest. However, if the share capital of the company is greater than £120,000, the petition has to be presented in the Court of Session in Edinburgh. Petitions can be presented by any of the following:
1. The directors
2. The company (the shareholders)
3. A creditor
Procedure for winding up by the court
In the case of Hearts Football club, the petition has been presented by HMRC.For the petition to succeed, HMRC must demonstrate that the club is insolvent. Usually that’s done by proving to the satisfaction of the court that the company can’t pay its debts as they fall due.In this case, there is a substantial sum outstanding to the Inland Revenue in respect of PAYE and NIC payments due on staff wages.A company is required to pay these deductions over to HMRC on a monthly basis.Given that the bill here is over£450,000, it suggests that several months’ payments have been missed. Technically then Hearts FC is insolvent.
Presentation of a petition may or may not involve the appointment of a provisional liquidator.A provisional liquidator’s main function is to find out what assets and liabilities a company has and to establish what its true financial position is.He tries to maintain the status quo while the court considers whether or not it should grant a winding up order. Because the provisional liquidator is there to preserve the status quo, he normally allows trading to continue, at least in the short term. However, if the court action continues and a winding up order is granted, trading can only continue with the specific consent of the court.
Before consenting, the court will have to be satisfied that continued trading is in the best interests of the creditors.In other words, by keeping the business together, the liquidator will get a better return for creditors by obtaining a higher price for the assets. In Hearts’ case, the problem is a cash flow one.A liquidator would not want to incur losses while trading the business and he would want to be satisfied that there was enough cash in the short to medium term to meet the costs of continued trading.
The other problem the club will face if the order is granted is that a winding up order has the effect of terminating contracts, including employment contracts.It is likely that the footballing authorities would allow players to walk away under these circumstances and their value would be lost to the club. In addition, since the footballing authorities consigned Rangers to Division 3, they could not allow a newco Hearts to continue in the SPL either.
So what can be done?
Ubig Investments, Vladimir Romanov’s company, could make a decision to appoint an administrator.This appointment would‘trump’ the liquidation and would allow continued trading as happened with Rangers.However, any administrator would be wise to take a couple of weeks to plan his strategy before taking on an appointment of this size and there is no indication that Ubig has made any move in this direction at the moment.
Alternatively, Hearts could try to reach agreement with HMRC about payment of the outstanding debt.The petition for winding up could be sisted (put aside or put to sleep) while installments are paid.We believe that Hearts are due money from transfers within the next week or so, and, if the fans fall behind their team, gate receipts should be substantial.This may be enough to persuade HMRC to wait.
If they will not, there is an outside chance that the court could be persuaded to appoint a provisional liquidator in the short term, before granting a winding up order.The provisional liquidator could then make an assessment of the overall financial position of Hearts FC and decide whether to continue trading meantime.Appointment of a provisional liquidator would avoid the unwelcome effects of a winding up order on contracts (including employment contracts) and would avoid the need for the court to be addressed in detail on the merits of short term trading.A provisional liquidator can also sell the business and assets of a company, provided he has the consent of the court.So if there are any buyers in the wings, sale could be achieved before a winding up order was granted.Whatever happens, the next few days will be amongst the most important in the club’s history.
Maureen Leslie-Corporate Insolvency Director, MLM Solutions CPS
To be honest we usually expect people to have reached 200 posts before we'll let them join the PM board as that usually weeds out the yams :greengrin. However if you know any of the admin team or another PM can vouch for you then we'll consider it.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
....although this bit is less so:Quote:
Originally Posted by weonlywon6-2
Alternatively, Hearts could try to reach agreement with HMRC about payment of the outstanding debt.The petition for winding up could be sisted (put aside or put to sleep) while installments are paid.We believe that Hearts are due money from transfers within the next week or so, and, if the fans fall behind their team, gate receipts should be substantial.This may be enough to persuade HMRC to wait.
Was just laughing at the thought of some of the pathetic fund raising attempts they're up to eg bake sales and the club must be raging that they really missed an opportunity to raise funds over Halloween via guising:
Christmas is coming
John Robertson is fat
Please put a penny into Mad Vlad's hat
If you haven't got a penny, your life savings will do
If you've got no life savings then please consider clubbing together with your mates and investing in the share scheme. It's not to pay THAT tax bill, it's for general running costs eg a big tax bill that we know about and really should have paid a while ago.
Any daft yam stupid enough to give hibs.net their money is fair game IMO......Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
You think they would want to keep their monies to buy lots of worthless shares:confused:
yep, but the bit in bold says a lot :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
I see Edinburgh Capitals ice hockey team are offering 25% dicscount to Hearts season ticket holders and donating any revenue to the 'cause'.
Seems a good way to piss off the Hibbies in their support. Oh aye and it will raise about £250.
Have the SPL said anything about the yams unpaid tax? I thought one of the new rules brought in during the summer was that tax payments had to be up to date.
It has, a few us are not going today because of it!Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
The problem with waiting for future cash flows (such as the Hibs games or the January window) is that they are incurring more tax liabilities as they go on. The PAYE and NIC for the October pay run will be due on the 19th. A business the size of Hearts should be making monthly VAT payments on account.Quote:
Originally Posted by weonlywon6-2
Would have thought Edinburgh Capitals would be better looking after their own finances than worrying about hertz