He’s actually excellent at his best, which he has shown many times. In this league he is well above averageQuote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
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He’s actually excellent at his best, which he has shown many times. In this league he is well above averageQuote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Doidge is part of a group of players who are well clear in 3rd. Calling him average at best is unfair. He's a nightmare for defenders and even when he doesn't score he's making chances for others. We were screaming out for a player like him for years.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
Doidge is average yet he keeps getting picked to lead the line. 😂
And would get picked at every team outside the top 2.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
I wish we had more bang average players like Doidge. If some Hibs fans can’t see what he brings to the team maybe Yogi was right when he said “fitba folk ken”
He doesnt even approach average if we're talking natural goalscorer. I haven't been his biggest fan but now accept his other talents talked about here make him a very important part of our current side.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
Yes, his 133 careers goals in 344 games, better than 1 in 3 shows he is a hopeless goalscorer.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
He is an above average goal scorer and a quality player. Vital in our season so far.
No, he's not.Quote:
Originally Posted by loanheadhibby
He's played a bit of a different role this year with Nisbet getting a bigger share of the goals, but last season he scored 19 goals in 39 games for us.
A quick look at prominent Hibs strikers shows Fletcher's best was 14 in 35 games, Kenny Miller got 13 in 38, Garry O'Connor got 20 in 45. Mixu's best was 12, Killen got 16 and Archibald got 15 in 44 total games.
He does a lot more but even on goal scoring he is doing fine overall.
Newell would have signed by now if he was going to.
I reckon he will be away back down to England.
Not necessarily, he could be just waiting to see how the season progresses and if he gets any better offers in from Championship clubs. If we come third we may be in a position to offer Newell, Marciano, Irvine improved terms to what is currently on the table.Quote:
Originally Posted by HH81
Doidge has been miles from his best this season but even at his current level he's a hugely important player for us.
If he gets back to doing what he's capable of then he's one of the best in the league.
I'm critical of him but it's only because I rate him.
Irvine has brought a real difference to the midfield and others have benefited from it. I’m glad our game against Ross County was postponed as it gives him some extra time to recover from the last game.
Really looking forward to seeing how Joe benefits from Irvine in the team. Having a midfield 3 of Irvine, Gogic and Newell, with Cadden and Doig running the flanks sounds pretty solid to me.
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Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
It would be interesting to see how many of his goals have come off his shoulder instead of head, his shin instead of foot, off a defender instead of missing the goal. Look I now rate the job he's doing at Hibs as I've said and won't comment any more as its not the right thread but I'll maintain he cannot be classed as a natural goalscorer.
He’s an all round striker who also scores goals. Couldn’t care less what part of his body he scores with, he scores them. He misses loads of chances, but creates far more, and scores his fair share. GOC, Fletch etc none of them were ‘natural goalscorers’ and all missed plenty chances. They still scored loads and their all round game was what made them outstanding players. Doidge not quite at their level but he’s definitely in the same mould.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
Only the uglies have scored more than us therefore we must be doing something right. This wouldn't be the case if one half of our strike force was as useless as some make out.
I dont think it matters if anyone is categorised as a natural goal scorer. I'm all for strikers who score 20 goals off their shins etc.
Me, and everyone else saying Bruno scored a peach yesterday, even though it was off his shin. A goal is a goal, whether a yard out off your arse or a 45 yard lob.Quote:
Originally Posted by Brightside
I'm glad the Ross out/Doidge is pish brigade aren't in charge of our football club
Oh, I dunno... you should hear Wee Ron when he's got a drink in him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
:faf: I have a very funny mental picture in my head now !Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Would it be interesting? I couldn’t care less how they go in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
I'd much rather see Allan or Murphy in there over Gogic against most teams in the league.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
Gogic is great for games when we need an enforcer (against Aberdeen or the old firm, or when the pitch is terrible), but I wouldn't be starting him every week.
In most games I'd much rather see a hibs midfield where every player has good technique, can take players on and play defence splitting through balls a la McGeouch-McGinn-Allan. Think with Newell-Irvine-Allan/Murphy we're close to having that again.
I wonder how many Robertson or McCoist scored in similar fashion? Two players who are hailed as fantastic goal scorers in Scotland’s history often scalfed and scuffed balls in to the net.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby
Midfield has been perfectly balanced the last few weeks with Gogic, Irvine and Murphy. Getting the best players on the pitch doesn’t necessarily add up to the best balance IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
It’s Gogic, Irvine and one other for me. Newell has a battle to get back in the team for me, as I don’t think he’s the one to play that bit further forward.
Funnily enough I think the team looks much more balanced when Gogic is in there irrespective of who we're playing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
Every team carries a threat against us of some sort, often on the break. Having someone like Gogic in there to win the ball back quickly will stop weaker teams from getting any sort of foothold in the game.
When we play badly as a team he tends to stick out like a sore thumb but I think he's had a cracking few games of late, and he had a few good games at the start of the season when we were playing well too.
At the moment it is looking to me like it is seriously stiff competition for that third midfield place between Murphy, Allan and Newell.
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Originally Posted by Sammy7nil
McCoist 584 games 290 goals, 1 in 2,
Robertson 570 games 229 goals around 1 in 2.5
yes but how many of them were sclaffed !Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
McCoist sclaffed loads in a team that created loads of decent opportunites. Robbo was an excellent finisher in a Hearts team that had Neil MacFarlane. His hight was an issue or he'd have had many more caps.Quote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
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I'll be back in a fortnight while I look at every goal they scored.Quote:
Originally Posted by worcesterhibby
Both were excellent poachers who did all their work inside the box, Linekar was another, if you ask them to do more you take away their scoring ability, being the right positions is how they scored so many.
Shearer was a different type, he worked harder and scored many from outside the box.
Back to Newell, being reported that we may be struggling to tie down both Newell and Rocky, I must admit that if they were signing I think they'd have done it by now. Maybe both want to be nearer family as it has been a very tough year for everyone.