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UAE vs Australia wc qualifier just started. boyle starts with Jackson Irvine. Jamie McLaren on the bench. Some yams as well
Germans v Englandshire should be decent game. Only question is how many times they can mention 1966 ?
Twice so far. In fairness, think it's all like new info for the female presenters :greengrin
Who was the boy with the very loud jacket, just turned it on when he was being interviewedQuote:
Originally Posted by Onion
The way they managed it in the Wales game was one of the worst I have ever heard. Aaron Ramsay - A. Ramsay - Alf Ramsay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Very nervous game with both teams taking very few chances.Quote:
Originally Posted by bringbackbenny
Martin Boyle just assisted Jackson Irvine for 1-0. Superb goal.
1-1 UAE Oz quick reply.
Is it on tv?Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
2-1 to Australia
I'm watching it on New Zealand sky sports live. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hillsidehibby
Nice move from The Germans, 1-0
1-0 Germany keeper poor.
Since becoming a German beer and football is somehow much more enjoyable. DDÜA
I’ve got 10 NZ sky sports channels but can’t get it!Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
No worries back to watching Germany game
England look tired and rubbish
Neuers ability with both feet is incredible. Could play central midfield.
Unlike Pickford, surely they can do better than him?Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Nice save there mind !
Pickford has consistently been excellent for England tbfQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
Always prefer a big guy in goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
He's a midget compared to Neuer!
What's this competition for? I honestly am losing track?
Don't think it matters too much. Pickford is taller than Casillas for example. Neuer is definitely a class above though. Best keeper I've seenQuote:
Originally Posted by green day
Penalty England….seemed of the mega soft variety that!
Surely offside.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
Kane falls down in the box
no way
Offside, coming together, ball running away with no chance of getting it. Take your pick. What the heck has the ref seen there ?Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
I was certain it was a foul, but unless the pass was off a German it must have been offside?Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
I thought he slipped then threw his arms in air. Was there actual contact or did the guy breath on Kane and he did his usually flop to floor?Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
They’ve hardly been in this half!
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Never a penalty, Kane was offside in the first place then tripped over his own feet. Var useless again. What a waste of money. It just gives useless referees a degree of credibility.
Compare that decision to Huddersfield x 2 or the Ukraine oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Onion
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Lithuania battered at home from turkey 0-6
Was a good penalty to be fair but undeserved.
Does this go to a ET/shoot out or end as a draw?
And we now know it has to be a deliberate pass by the German to play Kane onside. No chance.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
He looked 2 yards off, what am I missing that VAR sees. Commentators haven’t even mentioned it??Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Could someone explain how that was a penalty. He looked offside and he tripped over his own feet. if that’s what var brings to the game then it’s got to be be binned in Scotland.
Brown envelope is the only explanation as to how that's a penalty. Utterly disgusting decision - not only is he offside when the ball is played through, he ****ing trips himself up after the ball is long gone.
Horrific officiating.
50 goals for Kane in 71 caps for England. Will probably match Rooney’s record of 53 goals in 119 caps before the World Cup starts.
Did I just see a player being sick then on the pitch? Maybe seeing things!
If he was onside it was definitely a penalty. Guy did clip him
Think it was BellinghamQuote:
Originally Posted by HH81
No he didn't - Kane trips himself as he steps through, and the ball was long gone.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
That's never a penalty.
:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
Correct. Kane kicked his own foot.
Can't see how it was given looked like he tripped himself upQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
German caught him imo. Not sure whether he was offside but assume he was deemed not interfering initiallyQuote:
Originally Posted by The Harp Awakes
C4's in-depth analysis of Kane's usual chuck-himself-to-the-ground was impressive. I'm sure C4's team will pick the bones out of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastterrace
Just seeing it again, at least 1/2 yd offside.
Yes, he tripped himself after contact from the defender. He didn't just kick his own legQuote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
The useless biased English pundits claiming it was a clear penalty but not a word was said about Kane being clearly offside.
sorry joe Cole says it’s a definite penalty so we are all wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Beg to differ, it happens all the time - it's clear his foot kicks the back of his other leg as he tries to adjust himself in getting to the ball (after it was well away from the pair of them).Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
If that's a penalty (assuming we're just ignoring that he's blatantly offside anyway), the game is truly done.
Of course he was off side. The usual analysis that goes into these marginal decisions conveniently ignored as there is only one conclusion. C4 are only interested in smiles, flowers and ignore that rules if it interferes with the message :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
Genuinely awful ‘analysis’ there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
Squeezed in between a ton of adverts of course.
Yes, he kicks himself after the German player hits him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sylar
That’s cause there was no offside offence ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
so what your saying he wasn’t standing in a offside position when the ball was kicked. Okay it might have come off a German player but he was in a offside position gaining an advantage , then he goes down like a sack o tatties tripping over his own feet and gets a pen. The games goosed.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
Nope, I’m saying he was in an offside position but didn’t commit an offside offence by touching the ball.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastterrace
Therefore if he’s not touched the ball and been fouled then a penalty is correct.
If he touched the ball, or impeded and opponent which prevented them playing the ball, then no penalty.
If he scores then no goal as he’s committed an offence.
Only in your opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
I’ve explained the laws of the game in the post above. Not sure what else I can do to help.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
If you think he committed an offside offence why did two of Europes elite refs give a pen after watching it several times.. the reason being is that they know the rules.
He's awarded a penalty because he was impeded and prevented from committing the offence of being offside :greengrin This place is a madhouse.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
Good point well made.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
Still think it’s soft as considering the next actions but offside it probably wasn’t considering the above.
The Nations League is another avenue for three teams to qualify for Euro 2024 that don't qualify through the normal qualifying campaign - it's the competition that allowed Scotland to qualify for Euro 2020. The winners of Leagues A, B and C (out of the teams that haven't qualified automatically through the conventional route) will qualify for Euro 2024.Quote:
Originally Posted by HoboHarry
If the winners of any of the Nations League groups have already qualified for Euro 2024 their place will go to the next best team that hasn't qualified.
There's play offs taking place in March 2024 which will determine the final three teams to qualify for Euro 2024.
There's also a Nations League Finals which will be played in June 2023, this is contested between the four group winners from League A and will consist of two semi finals, a third place play off and a final.
Winning Leagues B, C and D will result in promotion to the next group up for the next edition of the Nations League and finishing bottom of Leagues A, B and C will result in relegation to the next group down.
Scotland's currently in League B along with Armenia, Ireland and Ukraine.
How does the winner of the leagues get decided when there is 4 groups in each league?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Aussie twitter asking who tonight Motm is, peep the comments. Half of me is happy for him, other half is gutted he's gone. What a player.
https://twitter.com/Socceroos/status...DVh2d8YVw&s=19
The four winners of each group (or the best team that hasn't already qualified for Euro 2024 through the normal qualifying route) within each league go forward to the play offs. There's then two semis and a final for each league from A-C and the winners of each final is each group's (A-C) representative in Euro 2024.Quote:
Originally Posted by RyeSloan
You have a good point, Paul.Quote:
Originally Posted by PaulSmith
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Harry Kane sure takes a good penalty. I don't think I've seen him miss one.
Ahh sweet thanks….I vaguely remember now re Scotland the last time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Great assist for Boyle last night to set up Jackson Irvine.
I also thought it was a Pen. And a FIFA ref and VAR ref also thought so. In Germany so hardly pressured by the crowd.Quote:
Originally Posted by MWHIBBIES
Mon the Tallies on Saturday, a rerun of the Euro Final. I’ll be less stressed about this one though.
J
Out of the 51 he has taken over his whole career, he has missed 8, 2 for England. His last miss was in the semi final of Euro 2020 against Denmark, but he scored the rebound on that occasion. The only other miss for England was against Turkey in a friendly 2016 but he did also score in that match and England won it 2-1. Pretty safe pair of boots to take pen :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by heretoday
Seen the replay of the incident about 5 times and I still can't see how he wasn't offside, he looked it in every replay.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Pretty clear that he isn't offside. You are only offside when you touch the ball, or impede an opponent - when in an offside position. Kane doesn't touch the ball and is impeded as he goes for it, not the other way round. I still think it wasn't a penalty as he did his usual dive - but he wasn't offside.
This isn't really true and Definitely isnt the reason he wasn't offside. Been confirmed it is because it came off a German who tried to tried to play it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Numptie
I know that the German player played the ball, and you can then argue that it was a positive action to play the ball, which I agree it was. But even if he hadn't played the ball Kane didn't touch the ball - so basically it was doubly not offside. And he still dived - no penalty!!
Might not have been offside under the current rules but it certainly should have been.
He is offside all through the passage of play and makes no attempt to change that.
The foul, if it was one, wouldn't have happened had he not been offside.
Interesting line up for scotland tonight
https://i.ibb.co/wzJkcBC/20220608-182201.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by Aldot1981
McKenna has played 25 times for Scotland. Thought it was less than that.Quote:
Originally Posted by 04Sauzee
Far more like what he should have gone with last week imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldot1981
Yip, get mctominay out of defence and play actual defendersQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
At least he's playing a proper RB instead of a LB there like last week, didn't work when he tried shoehorning Tierney into the team until he realised Tierney could play in a back 3. TBH I'm not overly fussed about these Nations league games, I'll have it on but with the volume low.
That was StrachanQuote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Good start here. Hoping for a few goals
Good goal scotland
Good cross Armstrong, good goal Ralston - pointed to where he wanted it.
Was it, could've sworn it was also Clarke, much better shape when you have the proper players in the right positions. They seem a hard team to break down, haha and as I type we score.😁Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
One thing I've noticed, we have a lot of lefties in our team, 5 at least I can see, think Gordon is one 2.
Really good performance so far.
Big Scott McKenna get in!
I hadn't realised he played quite as much as he did for Forest this season. Heading for the prem
2-0 McKenna from Mcginn corner.
Armenia are mince
How on earth did Ireland lose to them?Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
I was wondering that myself. BBC described it as an embarrassment.Quote:
Originally Posted by SJNB Hibby
3-0 McKenna
Offside. McKenna knew !Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Offside. Still 2-0. VAR strikes.
Still 2-0 - goal disallowed by VAR.
Scotland doing well but Armenia are the poorest international side I’ve seen for a long time.
Half time, 2-0.
Goal or not Scotland have been sharp tonight but don't know how much that's to do with Armenia being poor.
Bbc scotland saying Armenia have a few players playing in the top leagues around Europe but obv not a great team. Beat ROI though.Quote:
Originally Posted by J-C
Yes but I think Ireland had something like 70% possession, just poor finishing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gordy M
The wins what is important, and I’m glad to see we’re on top. I’ve been so bored watching it though.