Now there is a face that never tires of being soaked in pish.Quote:
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Now there is a face that never tires of being soaked in pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Surely you'd need to apply for a licence/permit to do that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
Big clubs don't have to do these things.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Surely a FOI request would answer that :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
Billy Brown is a ****.
No particular reason, but he just is.
Whats happened to our pet letter writer these days? :confused:
I fear he's sold his computer to pay for all those stampsQuote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
Thought he was holidaying in BulgariaQuote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Indeed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
But can someone get in touch with the council to make sure that they are paying any money received for the next two games to the council?
I would do it but I do not live in the area and so they could use that as an excuse to give me the old bla bla excuse that that useless so-called MP has delighted in continuously using to avoid facing up to reality.
Reading all sorts of crap in tonight's EEN about the consequences of them losing the car park and being hard done to by the Council.
Not a mention of the £ 100,000 + the Gorgie gangsters stiffed the Council for nor the fact there is another Car Park at the PBS entering off Wheatfield Street.
That space could probably holds about 80 - 100 cars on a match day but they already lease those spaces to the corprate in the Gorgie Road stand so the disabled etc can be used as victims of a council decision.
I used to work for a plant hire company, and for a short period I was based in Birmingham depot. the depot was directly opposite the main gates of West Bromwich Albion. the Baggies used our yard for match day parking and were charged a good few bob, for the use of. normal practise, I suppose as does the same not happen in Hawkhill with our home games? however, HMofc are basically ripping off the people of Edin. if they are getting free use of the people's land and more so if they are actually charging others for the use of. I find this discusting, and am outraged about it all. they , and their cohorts have the temerity to actually complain, and citing no warning,no discussion, no this no that, from our council officials. there should be an enquiry about it not a bloody fortnight's grace, as it looks like the council have given that! Mulligan has a lot to answer for, and let's not forget about the money paid to Hmofc for the use of their ground, by the council for storage facilities, which were never actually used!!! not only has that club been rotten from top to bottom during the Romanov years, it has been rife for years with their association with certain council employees and elected officials.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
The editorial piece in yesterdays EEN was nothing short of a disgrace. Hibs fans would expect the council to help them out if their club was in the same situation, eh no we wouldnae, we've not got our brass necks buried in the sand.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Anyone remember how much help we got from the council when Hearts tried to take us over and shut us down?Quote:
Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
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Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY
It's got nothing to do with us you yam fuds. We are not you. Stop bringing us into your troubles.
Once again you've cheated/conned folk out of money as a result of their good will. So they gave you 2 months notice and sold the land. It wasn't yours so away back under your rocks.
Jog on
Or how we were helped with the butterfly site... Yes, CEC have a history of helping us, if by helping, you mean making things as difficult as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Does anyone mind if I use their garden as a car park at the weekends and maybe some week nights for free?
I would like you to maintain the garden but I reserve the right to make money from the use of your garden by allowing others to use it when I do.
Oh by the way if you ever sell your costly to maintain garden and I can't use it for free anymore I will brand you as someone who eats disabled children.
Just shut them down now.
I have just an overdue account for £18 threatening me that if this is not cleared within 21 days then the whole balance of my rates bill will be due. ( i am really £22 in credit). Letter on its way to EDC asking if they have cancelled business rates account due to them by old Hertz and issued new one c/o BDO. Be of interest what they say. If they can get away without paying then why should Hibs pay or the rest of us for that matter ? Perhaps a can pay - won't pay protest is on the cards eh ?
Good point actually, if the big team have the 400,000 believers and us the mythical "wee" team therefore are only allowed to have 399,999 fan,s even that many not paying due to what we will call yamtax the council wouldn't have the infrastructure to chase every non payer effectively.Quote:
Originally Posted by southsider
They'd certainly have a go as its not the yam they would be after but it would certainly get the whole saga out to a much wider audience and make them aware of what the EEN isn't reporting on this story!
Do we know if this is fact or a rumour yet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mikey
There's only one 'WEE' team and that's the lot that play at Grogie. They play at a stadium called Tiny and even sing about it themselves every home game,Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Away up in Gorgie at Tynecastle Park
There's a wee football team
As much as they want to go on about it, their own self admittance ridicules them.
More than half of the Car Park at the back of the West Stand at ER is owned by CEC. Hibs are only allowed use of this on Match Days because they pay for it. Hibs also pay their Council Tax...and PAYE....and NI....and wages on time.
Please don't let any Hearts fans read that, they'll get a headache trying to understand the concept.
If this in fact the case then we should be demanding a refund on this cost as this is Shirley discrimination.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
If I went up to George Street and decided to claim one parking spot, could I then charge everybody that wanted to use it. Could be a tidy wee money spinner.
Was there not a story a few months back about one of the car/garage dealerships having to quickly remove cars from the car park, think it may have been VW, i wonder who they were paying there rental fee too, EDC or the thieving yams, now was this about 2 months ago when the council told the tramps that the car park would be going up for sale and the tramps had to inform VW that they couldn't use the car park anymore.
The car dealership got the use of a different car park, the one off Wheatfied Street. ( They are back using it again )Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Its Hearts ground or may'be it should be called Ukio Bankas ground so there is no issue with them taking rental for it.
However, if they did care for their disabled fans they could allocate spaces in that car park on match days and tell their corporate twats to bus it.
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Originally Posted by greenginger
Brazen does not even come close- they genuinely know no shame
http://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.co...time-1-3112872
So they charged the disabled £40 but never actually forwarded this money to the council due to going into admin?Quote:
Originally Posted by Suburban Hibby
So we can now add the disabled to Lady Haig Poppy Fund, McCraes. Big Hearts, the NHS, The Red Cross etc?
I'm ashamed for them to be honest.
What car park? The one inside the ground? Surely that is owned by Hibs as part of the stadium?Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
No, they hire it on match days.Quote:
Originally Posted by underscore
The boundary wall of the old stand was the only land that HFC owned.
It looks like we're getting ecited about nothing here.
If the EEN is to be believed, the £80k pa maintenance cost is for the entire school and not just the car park. Given that at least some of it is listed, the Council are more or less obliged to keep it at least wind and watertight. You can't really say that they were keeping it in good nick for an eventual HMFC purchase as they were looking to redevelop most of it in any case.
It seems also that Hearts were paying £525 per match for the car park - roughly £10k per year for 20 uses (that's if they paid it!). That doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Of course, THAT is THE BIG QUESTION?Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
They were charging their disabled car users £40 a season, so no doubt everybody else would possibly be at least double that (don't know for how many spaces that involves). So they were taking an income for the car spaces but did pay their bill for it. Given their record on paying bills, you have to doubt it very much.
If they were only charging £2 per car that would cover the payment to CEC (did they ever pay it?). If it's the one I'm thinking of I've seen guys at the gate taking £10 a time on matchdays. I'd be interested to know who paid public liability insurance for this piece of land.Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
As an aside on this thread whilst the domino's tumble.
Id' like to ask the guys who work in the finance industry a question, if anyone could make a stab at an answer:
Rumours and speculation surrouded Romanov's whole tenure but one of the weirdest things for me was the debt forgiveness. When places like panama and Switzerland are mentioned in clearing cash, which I think they were in this case, I'm immediately thinking Dot Cotton, Mr Popudopulous and loads of laundry going round. How would the mechanics of a geunine "debt forgiveness" deal work? What would be the mechanics of the cash movements if bad money was being cleaned?
#allisverycomplexkato
Oops
Theft of charity tin from the Diggers today
http://www.hmfckickback.co.uk/index....st__p__3828875
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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
#iknowthatswhyimaskingpedantic
let's all look out for the jakie :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
I think, from my limited knowledge....it's like stepping off your balcony in Bulgaria and throwing all your euros into the apartment washing machine. I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
The trail of the money is that Ukio Bank prints money they don't have and lends to UBIG who then lend on to Hearts to make good the overdrafts they are running up. Ukio's money they have loaned (printed) is backed by Ukiios's depositors (£10 for every £100 printed say). Hearts cannot service the debt - pay the interest or repay the original amount loaned back Without becoming insolvent. UBIG either convert the debt to shares in Hearts which Ukio own as security on the loan (why the own Tynecastle and shares). Or Romanov gets one of his front companies to forgive the loan and issue shares in the Front company which they give to UBIG who then hold this against the orginal back to back loan from Ukio. Ukio have claim on these worthless shares against the original loan to UBIG. The money laundering could work like this. UBIG borrow say £10m to Hearts but that only £9m of Hearts overspend. Romanov has £1m in his pocket. He forgives the £10m by issuing shares in his front company and these are held against the Ukio £10m loan. But hearts have only burnt £9m on wages transfers above income. Romanov pockets the difference. It could be all £10m loan from Ukio or a £9m Liam and £1m mafia money that gets washed through the system. We know Hearts gave burnt £69m in total which could be way below what Ukio have lost because of the above scheme.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Yeah, that too. Bulgarian washing machines. Using tears of pride as softener.
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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
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Originally Posted by desantos0773
Thanks gents. two equally feasible scenarios, the former might normally be a stretch but let's face it far stranger things happened to the Jam-Tards under Vlad*.
*current whereabouts 'unknown'
80 grand is waffle but there is a difference to what it actually costs and the sum the council actually 'spend' - it's called 'pauchle'. Official pauchle though, its the cooncil after all.Quote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
I've never heard of a fire being started because a redundant premises with no power/gas/etc was not watertight.It does not take £80 grand a year for 3 years to fit padlocks ,steel shutters to low windows and doors and boarding to high windows.Quote:
Originally Posted by dangermouse
wouldn't it be lovely if it's a Lithuanian property company that's bought the school for a knockdown 5 mil.Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
not sure how you mean Kato, with 80k being waffle, as that figure was mentioned from the council. the other thing, (pauchle) I do understand what you're getting at . I have mentioned that the council's bend over backwards attitude towards the gorgie mob for several years, should be investigated. heads have rolled fairly recently, for awarding contracts to builders/roofers/maintenance etc. I'd like to see some of the shenanigans going on between the council and our neighbours, investigated.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
I think that The Albion Trust may be a tad surprised at that...as its very much theirs along with old school building (Norton Park)Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Am saying 80 grand is what is on the books but I doubt that that much sees it's way toward the actual maintenance of the school.Quote:
Originally Posted by monktonharp
Event:straightforward theft of tin........Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Allisbarry:hearts fan plans ahead for transport and accomodation for next away game. Charities everywhere withdrawing their collection tins on Thursday nights before hearts away games.
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Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Hope they manage to get the horrible little p****, stealing from the sick kids is the lowest of the low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
:kettle:Roaster
:faf: superbQuote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
The thing that I find most surprising about this whole saga is that yams are actually allowed to drive cars.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
They don't call them cars. It's a mobile grooming homeQuote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
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Originally Posted by down-the-slope
Fair enough, I thought they rented it from CEC.
Same principle applies, though. Hibs actually pay for the Car Park... actual money, on time.
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3472743
WTF is going on.................Best professional club in the community!
Beggars belief!
That would be the same community that HEARTS HAVE STOLEN FROM. The business plan that allows Hearts to CHOOSE not to pay the public purse, Den Mothers, Scottish Ambulance Service and affiliated charities but CHOOSE to pay inflated salaries to footballers.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
Community spirited right enough, we should ask some of the local creditors.
Alan works tirelessly for Hearts and to be honest he deserves some kind of recognition - he's also a top bloke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
Thinks he's a footballer but he's got two left feet :-)
Putting rivalries aside I'll happily congratulate him when I see him next.
What a hermetically-sealed bubble the football authorities in this country live and work within. They continually make themselves a laughing stock.Quote:
Originally Posted by EskbankHibby
Nothing against the chap, but are we seriously saying the within Scotland the beacon of professionalism is Hearts? Given the last 12 months they have had, i would have thought that practically any other club would have been better role modelsQuote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
(as i say not dissing the chap, as they obviously work hard, but surely their overall impact on the community has been detrimental?)
Just imagine how much more they could have done with £38,000 more to spend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
I would imagine its run separately from the club similar to our own Community Foundation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
Nope, I agree, however what needs to be recognised is the work that Alan and his team put in - often work that is not dependant on finance. I've worked with him and trust me he works tirelessly. He's also a decent coach.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
If I'd voted I would have gone for Livingston myself - they are head and shoulders above most SPFL clubs in youth development and community projects.
Wish they had realised that when they placed £38,000 in the Hearts bank account.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
I'd vote for any club that invested more money in the community than its level of unpaid debts.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
I'm wondering how or why the £38k was in the hearts bank account in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by PatHead
It was only resting in their account :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
Attachment 11048
Front page of tonight's EEN - Outrage as charity tin with about a tenner in it stolen from a pub.
The Heart and Soul of Edinburgh F C steal £ 34,048.00 from a charity and not a mention in any newspaper.
Get those banners moving please !
"Heartless of Midlothian"Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Some weren't :agree: a major car dealer cancelled the player/vehicle contract due to the state some of the cars were being returned in. Only the manager (JJ) retained his car and Hearts allowed them to continue to have a hospitality booth :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiberlin
Where are the shares?!?!
I have loads of them. Do you want some?Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Free, of course.
If you provide your details I'll give you £110 and we'll call it quits :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by peter douglas
It's what big teams do.
Im not sure of actual current arrangement if any financially (other than we have use on match days) other than that its for Tenants of Norton Park. What I do know is the wall of the old school and playground was almost a deal breaker in getting the new West Stand built -Albion Trust had a strong hand when it came to getting agreement - I think we may (but not sure) have paid a big chunk of getting car park created as part of arrangementQuote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
I will ask though when I get a chance :aok:
No sane individual would accept that sort of treatment.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
Anyway, here's a wee tip. If you purchase any Hoover product you will get free shares. :aok:
Who needs shares when you've got pride? It's a much more valuable commodity. Literally.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
I ****ing hate that evening news :-(Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Used tae be the only paper I ever bought, stopped buying about 12 years ago as the quality of the whole thing went down hill. Now it's even worse, nothing mair than a yam propaganda sheet. Their behaviour during this farce involving that grubby little club has been utterly shameful, cannae think why any Hibs fan would want tae buy that piece of **** now and put money in tae its coffers.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I remember Rod mentioning it at a meeting a few years ago. Seems Hibs approached the our Council when the Norton Park School was about to be put up for sale and requested to be allowed to buy a 10 foot wide strip to accommodate the the new west stand construction.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
The Council refused point blank to deal with Hibs and sold the buildings and the whole playground to the Albion Trust.
Bit of a difference to the treatment the Yams have been getting these past few years. May'be we should withhold our Business Rates and see if the Council will bend over for us.
Attachment 11049Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
They were issued ages ago. Sent the cash to me and I'll photocopy you in :aok:
Nothing sux like an Electrolux http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YF8tQ...etailpage#t=62Quote:
Originally Posted by peter douglas
1:03
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Originally Posted by Jack
Can you imagine a scenario whereby HFC were to borrow money from our community foundation? I cant.
I don't suppose our Community foundation gets several hundred thousand quid from the Scottish Government or £ 50 K from Aegon.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
Here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee
setting rivalries aside, I will wish the whole of hmofc, the very best of bad luck for the remainder of this season and next. sorry to rain on your parade.those scroats have had their fair share of the good luck, for years now and you can not deny that, whether the guy is a buddy of yours or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by truehibernian
34 grand. don't exagerate:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
The three year scheme will increase the demand for new houses pushing the value of development sites up together with the rebound in the UK economy. Makes even more unlikely the Liths will accept FOH's offer.
Yes, all very well.....but will the Liths even see this report though. maybe someone who knows where to contact them can bring this to light! :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Knock yourself out ...Quote:
Originally Posted by marti1875
http://www.valnetas.lt/kontaktai2
If they were going to accept the offer they could have done it by nowQuote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Incidentally, I notice that the "Bankroto iškėlimo data" (which Google has translated as "bankruptcy opening date"), is given as 02/05/13.:hmmm:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Not that the spfl care.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
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Originally Posted by s.a.m
They are the administrator of Ukio Bankas. The points penalty only applied when either UBIG or Hearts itself entered administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
Conversely you could argue if they were going to reject the offer the would have done so by now. They be neither reject or accepted the latest revised offer if there is indeed one!Quote:
Originally Posted by weonlywon6-2
Points should have been docked at this point. They should in the championship.Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
We have now passed 27 September. What is happening in Lithland re appointing an administrator for UBIG?
http://translate.googleusercontent.c...MiIZWg91RBLcFw
Looks like the Ukio Admin. is going to have a fight about asset valuations of the securities that were held by the defunct Bank.
He seems to consider the Bank's creditors interests as a priority ( there's a novel approach )
Hope he continues the good work down Gorgie way.
There is a judgement to be made in 3 weeks as to who will act as the UBIG administrator. BDO insinuated this to the FoH last week, so the process has once again stalled.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bill Milne
I thought that UAB Insolvensa were appointed by the Kaunas courts back in July?Quote:
Originally Posted by Sergey
Was this appealed and cancelled?
Got a response to my FoI request to our Council as to the breakdown of the £ 90,715.40 debt the Yams have dumped on us citizens.
It says the total rent and rates due is £ 46,897.07 made up as follows,
Rates £ 30,174.97 for period 1/4/2013 - 18/6/2013
Rent £ 7629.10 for year 2012/2013 and £ 9075 for year 2013/2014. It is explained that the rental relates to facilities at Mcleod Street and Tynecastle High School.
It would seem the rent for the school parking costs were not a local arrangement between Hearts and the school as per AllisBarry but a payment due to the the Council which the Yams defaulted on.
The FoI request also notes the £ 90,715 figure was an estimate but does not specify that the £ 46,879.07 is the total due or whether there is another heading for Yam debt. ( phone call tomorrow )
The good news is they will be getting billed for their Business Rates from the day their Admin started.
There's been a reminder on here recently about the council renting space at the dome from the yams. Did the council cough up this cash this financial year, when and how much?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
You could slip this into your call :-)
Edit. If this is the case a new FoI about how much, when and why over the last few years would be a reasonable follow up me thinks.
So Hearts stole money from the disabled as well. Disgusting.
I may have missed it ------------- but did Heriot Watt ever respond to the FOI request regarding their apparent failure to pursue THEM for non payment of the monies that they were due for use of their facilities?
I dont think they can pursue a company in administration for debts prior to when they went into administration.Quote:
Originally Posted by Golden Bear
I suspect GB is referring to the pre-admin debt. 150K is a lot of money and would have taken a lot of time to accumulate given the monthly costs previously disclosed on here. It's a question that deserves an answer. :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
But Heriot Watt themselves should provide information as to what steps they took (if any) to recover the debt/arrears.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC