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How's Prince Bauben getting on at Watford?
Care to elaborate on so on.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesoim
They have lost more useful players than they have signed.
I think you are forgetting Aberdeen lost 9 first team players over the summer and got a decent fee for Fyvie. They have only signed 2 players. Hayes replaces Fyvie. But they lost two other key players in Reynolds and Arnisson.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesoim
Dundee Utd are the only team that have done well to keep as strong. It will be them and Hearts fighting for 2nd place. With everyone else behind.
IMO
With Rangers out the league it looks as if Aberdeen are spending a bit looking to challenge for 2nd place. With less than 5 daysz to go we have added no exciting players to our team as we had McPake and Griffiths. Watching United game on tv then up for Hearts and St J game. I think Hibs signing strategy is rank and wrong. Since 2007 i cant remember a season were we actually started wi a strong team and didn't have to waut until gsme 4/5 before finding out what our squad is.Quote:
Originally Posted by sesoim
But as stated they have lost 9 players and brought in 2 ? how is that Spending ?Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthamptonHibs
I thought they had brought in more players...if they've not i'll correct my point on AberdeenQuote:
Originally Posted by cocopops1875
I think leaving it any later will harm any remaining hope of getting more season ticket sales. Its the end of the month and a lot of folk are getting paid and maybe still undecided. The pre season payment plan ends on Friday and our first game is on Sunday. As you say, by the time we get round to bringing players in that we badly need, all the incentives and enthusiam will be gone, especially if we get off to a bad start. I'm hoping we will announce a couple of decent signings very soon and they can extend the payment plan until next week to help bring the fans back. We should really be aiming to have a squad in place by now. They maybe have tried really hard but Hibs should be able to persuade players that there is a bright future here. Who knows what is wrong with the system but I can't believe its all down to money. I don't want to give up another derby just coz there's "still a few weeks until the window shuts". Every game counts.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthamptonHibs
The deadline is because we need to know how much there is to spend before we run out of opportunity to do soQuote:
Originally Posted by Emerald
Point taken and I fully understand this but there is only a few days left for anyone who may be on the swither to sign up. My point is that they may be lost if we delay signings until the end of August. There is a lot of folk like me renewed back in April and the wait for a squad that can merely compete is killing me. My point is if we are going to do it, it really can't wait much longer.Quote:
Originally Posted by down-the-slope
Nail on head with that one. When I say we have been uninspiring that is exactly what I am getting at. Hibs appear to have spent every penny from asset sales over the years on infrastructure and because of the poor quality of players we have seen in the past few years I suspect that some gate receipt money has also been spent on infrastructure. If not then we have been rank rotten at spotting players to bring in. The evidence of last season clearly shows that most SPL teams with smaller budgets have been more inspiring and astute with signings. Our managers have changed but the same continues, and so the common factor is not the football managers. The fans have supported the club in good numbers in the past, only really dropping away in the past two seasons, and who could blame them, when Hibs only change the managers and not the root of the problems. We need a better midfield and forward line and if we don't get that then I foresee many Hibs fans with sad faces (again) this coming season.Quote:
Originally Posted by SouthamptonHibs
I really hope we get some signing news in next 48 hours. All of the "excuses" are now removed:
- Euro 2012 over :greengrin
- SPL TV deal concluded and £££ value known to clubs
- End of financial year on 31st July 2012
- Reasonably final position in terms of Season Ticket £££ revenues known.
:pray:
Which is?Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
I saw Forsyth once last year for Watford on the tele and looked a good player, would be exactly what we need if he performed the same for us.
I'm loving how Aberdeen replacing 9 players with 2 is 'ambition' but our own signings so far are apparently hopeless (The best defender we've had in years, a Championship striker, a proven SPL player and a promising youngster from SFL1. Wait, is that twice the number '2nd chasing' Aberdeen have brought in?) and a sign of us spending everything on infrastructure.
A definite lack of logic on here!
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Originally Posted by ScottB
We may well have had an underwelming transfer window so far but it's the same right across the SPL. It's why I now think talk of us finishing top six is not ridiculous. (I apologise in advance to those who are offended by my optimism. :greengrin)
You might as well add in a sound goalkeeper who turned down an offer from a championship team to come to us.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
If it was Aberdeen fans claiming they hadn't done as much as us I could understand but the way it is being claimed on here is absolute bonkers.
It's not ridiculous, it's absolute insanity! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
:tee hee:Quote:
Originally Posted by Offside Trap
Notice they've signed Gary naysmith today as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
I don't necessarily disagree with you but could it be because they've gone for the much spoken of quality over quantity that we talk about every year but never seem to find.
Naysmith while a gd signing for the Dons we've signed a steady, SPL competitive full back in Tim Clancy also Clancy is younger.
Brown seems to be playing Hayes through the middle off Vernon conversely we have Griffiths much rather have Leigh than Hayes.
Our new keeper, Williams, seems to be strong and confident and with McPake at centre half we are starting to build a strong spine.
Aberdeen may have signed more exciting players in some people's eyes but it's time for Hibs to be steady, confident and consistent and I think we're slowly building a squad capable of doing that...
...having said that I think we're 3/4 players away from doing so in the upper echelons of the SPL
McPake, Williams, Grifiths, Clancy and potentially Cairney come into the category of decent quality for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
We need more but I don't think anyone has signed much better.
That the majority of loan players do not give a **** about the teams they are loaned to and cannot wait to get back to there clubs.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
No, no ,no ,no no. Only if they had signed for anybody else would they qualify as quality players. This isn't 'Nam, this is hibs.net, there are rules.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
aye Vaz Te for exampleQuote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
He was the worst for it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil MaGlass
Vaz te wasn't on loan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Phil MaGlass
Or am I missing something?
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Originally Posted by fergy
Nope yer right, a short term deal to end of the season, didn't have the wisdom to sign him up for longer so we could've gained out of it.
this thread may as well be deleted as there is a fair chance there will be no more other than Maybury and/or Kerr.
Do you honestly think he would have signed for longer thus taking his future (and those all important signing on fees) out of his own hands? There is no way on this earth Vaz Te saw the SPL or Hibs in particular as a long term career move. Given the talent he so obviously has a short term loan should have been beneficial to Hibs and the player. Unfortunately he was willing to take the dosh and give very little back in return. That's not the clubs fault.Quote:
Originally Posted by jc1
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Originally Posted by Magnum Hibee
Thought the window was open till end of August.
Like McPake and Griffiths then aye?Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
It is.Quote:
Originally Posted by jc1
And you know this because.....??Quote:
Originally Posted by Magnum Hibee
I'm not 100% sure, but I thought he was a free agent at the time and signed up with the understanding he would leave at the end of that season. Shame CC didn't go with him (or CC go and Vaz Te stay, for that matter).Quote:
Originally Posted by fergy
He did say "majority" mate not them all.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
Which part of MAJORITY do you not understand :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
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Originally Posted by H18sry
The part between the 'M' and 'Y', it would seem.
:tee hee:
I don't know for sure. I'm just losing faith.
Getting frustrated with the team/formation Fenlon is playing and sick of watching Hibs every summer f@£$y about until the first game of the season before bringing players in.
We are in desperate need of 'almost' a new midfield with a bit width but with four days until the new season we still have an underachieving, lightweight creatively challenged midfield.
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Originally Posted by Magnum Hibee
We only really loaned players for the second half of last season and they were not responsible for the mess we were in at that point - the permenant players had done that by themselves. The loan players came in and helped get us out of the mess and got us to a cup final.Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
Maybe they don't care about Hibs but I didn't see many if any playing like that. They all done their jobs. McPake and Griffiths for example were pretty key and were on loan.
Andy Webster captained Dundee Utd to the Scottish Cup whilst on loan.
Loaning players is not the issue, it's identifying the right players to come into the club, whoever they are and no matter how long they are here for.
Who were all our loanees last season all in then?Quote:
Originally Posted by H18sry
McPake and Griffiths undoubtedly 'cared.'
I would say Docherty and Soares clearly didn't give a crap as you suggest. The others I wouldn't list one way or the other. So that's hardly a majority, or a reason not to go after a potentially decent player, who given his background looks more like a McPake or Griffiths than a Soares or Docherty.
Doherty might have been a choob but he performed. Soares was never fit but clearly cared when you saw the players celebrating goals etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
Francombe also got stuck in when asked, O'Donovan was just rubbish but didn't have an issue with his application.
It's just a lazy comment about loan players if you ask me - which no-one did!
True, I don't personally have any issue with loan players. Indeed a lot of them appeared to care more and try harder than some of those that were here permanently last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
We were the team in the league who needed the biggest overhaul. What has been done so far is not enough. Other teams may not have done much but they have existing quality. Looking through the squads of other teams aberdeen, united, motherwell (squad is thin but still has quality), st Johnstone and hearts all will probably finish above us as things stand. Getting a top 6 place might be difficult and if we dont show an improvement in spirit and concentration we will be in another dog fight at the bottom.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Aberdeen do have some fine players. Seems as if Reynolds will be back there next year and Hayes, McGinn and Vernon would all probably walk into our forst 11 at this time. Naysmith, Anderson and Rae are exactly the type of experienced heads we could do with. Seem to have a solid 'keeper in Brown aswell and a few young prospects. They'll be fine next season.
Aberdeen to finish 3rd?
Experience is one thing but old gits is something else.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
How many games did Aberdeen get out of Anderson after he signed?
Is this the Aberdeen team that finished bottom 6 and we beat in the semi final that have lost 9 players!! Whats with the Aberdeen love in. The are as bad as us with no training centre and an out of date stadium. Arnason and Fyvie will be huge losses for them. Vernon is there only striker. I think with our youngsters we have a better squad than them. But time will tell.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
See movements for both below. All 9 Aberdeen players were first team players. Most of ours were loan deals or fringe players.
ABERDEEN
Players IN (3 players)
1. Jonny Hayes - winger (Inverness CT)
2. Niall McGinn - winger (Celtic)
3. Gary Naismith
Players OUT (9 players)
1. Kari Arnason
2. Rory McArdle
3. Darren Mackie
4. Youl Mawene
5. Mo Chalali
6. Yoann Folly
7. Danny Uchechi
8. Mark Reynolds (loan end)
9. Fraser Fyvie (Wigan)
HIBERNIAN
Players IN (5 players so far)
1. Tim Clancy - defender (Motherwell)
2. James McPake - defender (Coventry City)
3. Paul Cairney - midfielder (Partick Thistle)
4. Ben Williams - goalkeeper (Colchester United)
5. Leigh Griffiths - forward (Wolves, loan)
(in talks with Maybury, Forsyth and Kerr)
Players OUT(14 players)
1. Graham Stack
2. Matt Doherty (end of Loan)
3. Richie Towell (end of LOAN)
4 James McPake (End of Loan)
5. Francombe (end of LOAN)
6. Ian Murray
7. Sean Welsh (Partick T)
8. Tom Soares (End of loan)
9. Garry O'Connor
10. Lee Griffiths (end of LOAN)
11. Roy O'Donovan (end of LOAN)
12. Martin Scott (LOAN to Ross County)
13. Isaiah Osbourne (Blackpool)
14. Mark Brown
Good one MB :hilariousQuote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
:greengrin You ken fine well, J. He was injured! Nane I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by scoopyboy
Rae and Naysmith will skoosh the SPL. Probably says more about the standard of the league than their ability, but they'll do well at Aberdeen. By all accounts Rae was excellent last term.
Sean, not sure if Anderson played or not. Even if he played he wasn't value for money.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
Rae has been injury prone all his days so I don't see him being value either.
Naysmith is 34 I think and has been a good pro all his days, however he is now slow.
I don't particularly want Maybury or Kerr but they're experienced and would give us more than Anderson and Rae, at least they get on the park.
Spot on, Vaz Te played for us on only a fraction of what he got elsewhere, in order to get himself fit. The deal was never going to go beyond it.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Is Leigh Griffiths a different player from Lee Griffiths? Most of the players Aberdeen have lost are dung whereas they've made decent signings. They lost a couple of decent central midfielders but are well covered there. I think they'll be top half. Not 3rd though. I think the yams Dundee United and Motherwell are fighting out 2nd-4thQuote:
Originally Posted by 007 Mickey Weir
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Originally Posted by marinello59
I honestly don't know, but it was just a very short contract, which he has now gone on to prove how good he was. I think I'm really curious as to why we allow these players to slip through our hands, maybe as you say he only wanted it for his fitness, that being the case, let these players get fit elsewhere as we need stability not fly by nights.
Where are all the rumours :confused:
I fully expect to see a number of signings made over the next month or so. I'd absolutely LOVE it if we were to make them before the big KO but the reality is likely to be different - Fenlon has a massive rebuilding job on his hands afterall and it was never likely to happen overnight.
I have read that Pat is desperate to bring in more players and rightly so - a big solid striker is a must and the midfield is still a creative dead zone from what I can see - SO DAGNABIT! WHERE ARE ALL THOSE PESKY RUMOURS :cb
Anyone care to summarise?
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Originally Posted by jc1
Vaz Te was never ever staying with us in a million, trillion, zillion years. Dredging this up over and over again is bordering on self harming.
Arnason, Fyvie and Reynolds were arguably there best three players!Quote:
Originally Posted by allezsauzee
I think it will all come down to injuries. No-one can afford to get any key players injured as they have no back up. Everyone has very small limited squads this year. Time for the youngsters to shine I hope! This is where we might have an advantage. Crawford and Stanton are quality.
A lot of rumours going round that we will be signing Jason Scotland this week.
Would be happy with that if still the same player he was a season or 2 ago.
First I've heard of it ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
According to FM he hates Hibs :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
It dates back to when he was refused a work permit when with DU.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
The panel that denied it all had Hibs connections.
When you say a lot of rumours do you mean you've read it somewhere or been told it by a few folk or that you've read it on facebook/football rumours website?Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
Crawford ?!?!?!?Quote:
Originally Posted by 007 Mickey Weir
Thought he left.... So presuming you mean Caldwell
Jason Scotland, he's not one of our own, he's not one of our own etc................... to a musical acompaniment.Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
Would take him though :wink:
You have a cheek putting a rumour about a possible Hibs signing on this thread. It is meant to be about Aberdeen being better than us or to criticise our players.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
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Originally Posted by PatHead
I really like this.:thumbsup:
At 33 I think he could still do some real damage in the SPL. He's suited to the game, experienced and powerful, fortunately he is the type of striker that can peak for a longer period as he doesn't necessarily rely on pace to be effective. Would be a very good signing in my opinion and would slot right into a 4-2-3-1, yet, I can't really see it happening.Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Patrick_Agyemang was this the trialist ?
Jason Scotland was apparently one of the trialists for hibs u'20s yesterday
Not according to the HibsTV highlights.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
From the bench?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
Haven't got a clue m8, just passing on what I've heard.Quote:
Originally Posted by BarneyK
Gawd i hope not. A striker with a career average of slightly bettar than a goal every 6 games! They'd be as well playin me up front.Quote:
Originally Posted by eastmainsmsh
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Originally Posted by BarneyK
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18736687
Would be surprising giving he's just signed a 1yr contract with Ipswich. But would be amazing if it was true.
did jason scotland not sign a new contract last month ?
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/18736687
If it is to be believed that Jason Scotland was one of the trialists for the U20s the other day,could one of the guys on the working group that meets up with Hibs find out what our scouting "network" actually entails? Sounds like when we need a new player someone fires up Football Manager 06 and has a look through the SPL.
Anyone 'in the know' know if this Jason Scotland rumour is concrete? Strange if he was a trialist as surely you would know what your getting with him!
I haven't got a clue who the trialists were yesterday, I think one of them was the nigerian guy and I've been told the other is Scotland but he played in a friendly for Ipswich the other day against Luton and if he hadn't signed a new contract I don't think he would have been playing.
Bloody doubt it.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewis_1875
Any word or rumours on Lee Miller or Sandaza?
Either would be fine with me
On the match thread, Big Mo said "The trialist who played #9 was called Patrick something" Whilst on HibsTV highlights # 9 is clearly shown as white, so probably not Nigerian, and definitely not Jason Scotland :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibeesmad
definetly no first team trialist at the under 20s game yesterday, was there myself, no jason scotland thats for sure
Another example of this place talking ***** if you ask me. This threads turned into a pile of *****. Ffs keep it for genuine signing rumours and let us fans have at least a little bit excitement without reading through pages of total pish.Quote:
Originally Posted by lewis_1875
FFS i already said who is was playing with the u20, and Jason Scotland Signed a new 1 year deal recently this month in fact.:agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
Jason Scotland is on trial at Hibs :faf: Thanks to whoever came up with that one - brilliant :faf:
We'll need whatever they've been drinking to get through this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by TQM
Vaz Te joined Barnsley remember. If we had offered him £7k per week, he would've took it. He has now gone on to be a big success in the Championship, but there was no sign of this before in Scotland or Cyprus. So don't make out if he came here as a wee change of scenery until he rejoined the EPL, because that isn't the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY
Calm down, I never mentioned Vaz Te, I was replying to the poster who had.Quote:
Originally Posted by NORTHERNHIBBY
Think you need to calm down a bit, rumours are just that ..take them or leave them ..not worth getting your knickers in a twist about is it ..? you have been around long enough to know what these threads are like ...:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by SMAXXA
:agree:100% agree, would rather read about any signing rumour, no matter how thin the rumour is on 'the Hibs transfer rumours' thread than pages and pages about how much better Aberdeen and other teams are than us, how unfair NewcoRangrs can sign players or how shyit our midfield is (this IS NOT a rumour:wink:). Let's just stick to the Hibs signing rumours!Quote:
Originally Posted by happyhibbie
Apparantly St johnstone outbid us to win the signature of vine
Starting to get a bit peeved about lack of new recruits.
So they wanted him more. They got Sheridan 'ahead' of us and I'd say we dodged a bullet there.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY
I'd agree going by some QPR fans forum posts about his lack of fitness and poor attitude. Definitely not what PF is after.Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
There is no getting from it, we have had a very uninspiring and frustrating transfer window IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by Col2
He's got a ****ty goal scoring record anyway. One thing I like my strikers to do is actually score!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Apparently Maybury has been told no and will sign for Dundee.
That would be a bit of a surprise after Fenlon has publicly stated he wanted Maybury. Unless theyve found someone else, Id have thought he would have at least been offered a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by Future17
If true, maybe it shows that we're now setting our sights a bit higher with the TV revenue position now being more certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by too_many_djs
Or his wage demands are higher than what we rate him atQuote:
Originally Posted by BEEJ
Is that just your thoughts or do you have concrete evidence. This will happen every time another SPL side signs someone. There will always a poster telling us that we where outbid.Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZYHIBBY