His fame never really made it to my part of South East London - being fair his name was in the press down here but more about how harsh it was to bump him than his success to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
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His fame never really made it to my part of South East London - being fair his name was in the press down here but more about how harsh it was to bump him than his success to be fairQuote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
Will score a decent amount of goals in this leagueQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
People said that about Boyd and Miller last season, except they said 'bucket load' instead of 'decent amount'.Quote:
Originally Posted by bill the hibby
Just my opinionQuote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
And you could be right but I think we have strikers who will score a decent amount as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by bill the hibby
What would really worry me is if they were signing the type of players who would score bucket loads. IMHO they are not.
Brentford fans don't seem to be missing Halliday. http://www.claretandbanter.uk/thread...8/#post-830569
The most worrying thing for us about the huns next year is that Boyd won't be playing.
Back page of the sun today. The rangers aren't going to take no for an answer in their attempts to sign Scott Allan.
Maybe they are going to kidnap himQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
In the run up to a game against them, I am both shocked and horrified by this revelation!Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
That's a Bradford site :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by KWJ
They are going to be unhappy when we tell them to bolt....Why would he go to a smaller outfit?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
If as Hibs say there has been no approach from Rangers and the Sun says they are 'stepping up' their bid, have they been tapping up our player behind our backs?
@Kenny_Millar: Rangers will have to stump up serious money to even tempt Hibs into talking. No buy-out clause. https://t.co/SWBwlqlpHA
Hello!Hello!
**** off.
End of negotiations.
We WON'T sell to Derhun......Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
It says they are stepping up their interest by starting talks with Hibs. The last I heard, it took two to hold a conversation. Hibs can stop this nonsense by saying we are not remotely interested and we won't discuss the matter. This line won't upset Scott Allan as he has publicly played his cards. The ball is in Dempster's and Stubb's court and any submission to negotiations with Sevco can be seen as a willingness to sell and sign that they are not serious about a return to the Premiership.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They're fair exited by their new team this season.
http://forum.rangersmedia.co.uk/inde...ic=285374&st=0
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They've left already?
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In fairness, they probably want him in before the weekend, so he's not cup tied for the rest of the Petrofac cup if they get through.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'm blaming Apple for that ;-)Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
The laptop loyal in the press really are a pathetic bunch. I don't believe a word of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
In fairness to everyone who doesn't do irony and sarcasm, the addition of a wee smiley would be in order.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Newry Hibs
At least jintybear knows their name ....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Totally agree with this!
Bring them on! We are the Rangers and we fear no-one!
Buzzing for this game
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Good Call, I normally blame them for everything
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Scott Allan to The Rangers 😂😂
I'll crack the jokes!
Ahem, 'the' should have a capital letter in this example.:smug:Quote:
Originally Posted by Newry Hibs
Just needs "we are The Rangers 2012" to be full on Celtic fan troll.Quote:
Originally Posted by Newry Hibs
Fear no one? If that's right WTF has been scaring away the 30 or so thousand from Ibrox for the last 3 or 4 seasons?Quote:
Originally Posted by Newry Hibs
New Hun - old Hun tactics !. Using their media to 'Let it be known' etc, etc - a low, pathetic attempt at unsettling SA ?. Sadly, although the player himself has made it clear his intentions for the next season, there's still the Rod Petrie factor which makes me uneasy. His 'Business First - Football 2nd' ethos still has clout at ER.
This is not an arsey reply, but do you have any evidence to back this claim up?Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
Our transfer business over the past year would suggest that the "Petrie factor" is much less now than in previous years.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
I think we have to acknowledge the uncomfortable truth that every player has their price though, regardless of whether Petrie is involved or not. And the price for Scott Allan to go to The Rangers is one that they simply would not be able to afford, and he is such an important player for us that it would be a big ask for any club to pay that price. A fit Scott Allan, on form, is almost priceless to us this season.
The biggest danger we have is that Scott Allan somehow gets tapped up and gets his head turned. He decides that he wants to leave and there is little that the club can do about it.
I still think that it suits all parties best for him to stay for one more year and head off where he wants, for nothing, at the end of the season.
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Originally Posted by MixerKev
Petrie!!!!
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Originally Posted by Deansy
Even though Rod is a non executive chairman, which means he has nothing to do with the running of the club and is purely a figure head still there to represent Mr Farmer on the board.
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Originally Posted by Smartie
Hibs without Scott Allan is more acceptable than Sevco with Scott Allan, if you get my drift. If, for whatever reason, he want's away, let him go as long as it's not to Sevco. If that means we have an unsettled Scott Allan, tough. Personally I don't think this 'issue' is going very far.
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Nice family friendly site that :rolleyes:
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Originally Posted by J-C
come on...He is the representative of the majority shareholder of the club. He has the final say on anything he chooses to have...anyone who is near the board can confirm that. I'm not saying he is an unhelpful influence on activities just now, but don't for a minute think he doesn't have a significant influence.
The evidence that we have moved away from a business first ethos is still untested. Great chance now for the club to show it has changed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MixerKev
He is one member of a Board. If the Board decides one thing, he can't over-rule it.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Exactly. This whole thing could be knocked on the head by a nine word statement from Dempster. As I said elsewhere, if Scott Allen is not happy, tough. I feel a tad hard on the guy, saying that because to be fair to him, he has never once made noises about not fulfilling his contract.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
[QUOTE=Ozyhibby;4416408]The evidence that we have moved away from a business first ethos is still untested. Great chance now for the club to show it has changed.[/QUOTE
they showed it last season when Dundee utd came sniffing.
If there's an improved contract on the table for SA then the player holds all the cards- if he wants more £s he'll tell the board & sign, if not he'll leave
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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Dream on...in reality, a board isn't a democracy..If the owner of the business wants things to go a certain way it will...people can choose to stay part of the team or not, but that's reality...By all accounts, the current board is pretty well aligned around the major topics just now. So don't treat this view as a suggestion there is a lot of times when Petrie's voice dominates - but also do not think it can't happen. It can, and occasionally does...
How many statements do the club and Allan have to make?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
They've got better things to be doing right now than coming out in the press every day saying the same thing.
One definitive one. That's all. The club has not said, categorically, that he won't be sold. That's why all this discussion and speculation will go on and on. Sevco supporters really do believe that in due course Hibs will capitulate and sell him by the end of the window.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Well we should be thanking him for the sterling work going on at the moment to re engage fans and build an exciting new team...Not just bring him up when some somethings potentially wrong..Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Personally, I tend to distrust most statements made by players and clubs anyway, so a statement from Scott Allan saying he intends to see out his contract is encouraging but doesn't have me 100% convinced.
I realise that sounds really cynical but I've heard it all before, e.g. Tony Mowbray saying he 'still had work to finish' at Hibs, shortly before he left for West Brom.
I don't have anything against Scott Allan but he's a footballer, with a short career, and he has to look after his own interests above all else.
My tactic during Transfer Windows is to just keep my fingers crossed.
Perhaps we should congratulate him for the job he did last year then if he is so involved?Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
It's quite clear by our signings and the way the club is run, that we did a U-Turn last year when LD took over and there hasn't even been an uttering since to suggest that the old RP tactics are in use.
Like the one that Fabian Delph made?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
If they make a definitive statement it just makes them look more stupid if (for whatever reason) Allan leaves.
This will only be over when the transfer window closes and it doesn't matter what anyone at Hibs, The Rangers, Celtic, any other club or Allan himself says.
http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/news/5521...this is good enough for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
The club don't need to. Has every club that's ever had their manager/star player linked with a move away to a another club, came out with a statement to deny it? Alex McLeish came out and said he was going nowhere, 24 hours later the Judas was at Ibrox.
More recently, Fabian Delph said he was staying at Villa only to change his mind. So if it's gonna happen, it's gonna happen.
We failed again last season.Quote:
Originally Posted by high bee
And I hope you don't think I'm being arsey with my reply but the fact we're in the Championship is ample-proof - ok we're maybe starting to turn the coner just now but you can't deny he's been responsible for a badly mis-managed Hibs for the last 7-10 years. If he wasn't, then there would've been no reason for LD.Quote:
Originally Posted by MixerKev
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Originally Posted by Deansy
I don't think anyone has denied that but it doesn't actually prove your previous statement...
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His 'Business First - Football 2nd' ethos still has clout at ER.
No denying the last few years have been dire and he was very much part of the problem. If he's still partly involved in making decisions as some say on here then he's also part of the turn around. Some folk are very selective in bringing him into discussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deansy
We are a second tier club for the second year running being watched by low crowds and with low season ticket sales. Let's not overegg it. Promotion is essential this year for any turn around to be evident.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dalianwanda
Correct. Only promotion will do this season.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
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Originally Posted by high bee
not quite sure the point being made here....Yes, there has been a definite change of approach since end of last season - relegation does that ! Makes it easy to create change. Even for RP...RP still has an active role in the club - he is the trusted advisor of the owner. So feel free to thank him if you wish - good luck with that one..
Thats not the point I'm making. The point is theres a lot of good things happening at the club at the moment on and off the pitch. I'm in total agreement that promotion is paramount this year. I'd say its been an even greater job creating the positive atmosphere around the club at the moment due to us being in the championship. But Petrie is either part of it at the moment or he's not. If he is he deserves some of the credit, if not then he can't be wheeled out for blame when people fancy.
Just out of interest....
....what has any of this got to do with The Rangers?
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Oh yeah forgot about them :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
I think his leadership has been soQuote:
Originally Posted by Dalianwanda
Poor, that it is no surprise he is blamed...and frankly, progress just now is all relative - we are in a minor league and currently needing to get out of it. Petrie will get blamed long after he has left - that's the heritage he has built due to the teams performances
Is it because they play at the ground formerly used by the now defunct Glasgow rangers even though the new the rangers no longer own the badge, retailing right, name etc........[emoji1]Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Get with the programme.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
It's a Hibs website, which means all threads are allowed to descend into criticisms of RP/Liam Craig/Butcherwood.
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It was tongue in cheek. My point being, I dont believe anyone would thank him because most believe this year of change has had nothing to do with him.Quote:
Originally Posted by bigwheel
Yes relegation makes it easier to change but I don't believe we would have without LD. My main point was that I believe it is LD and her team pushing the changes and that RP is allowing them to implement their vision, wait her by having no involvement or by not interfering. I'm not worried at all that RP could be there desperate to cash in on SA, I think the club has done enough to prove that we operate differently now. So if he is sold I would be content that it was unavoidable and that the club would make the best effort to reinvest in the squad, unlike before.
To those saying we failed last season, we may not have been promoted and no one is happy about it but we have made huge progress, especially when you consider our position at the end of the relegation season. That's not to say we're in a great position but we were in such a bad position a year ago that we have to accept that Rome wasn't built in a day. It would be failure to get promoted this season that would be a real failure.
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Originally Posted by high bee
Don't disagree with any of that.....
And here was me thinking that RP was the one that approached LD. Prior to being relegated as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by high bee
A bit naive - with all due respect. Hibs can't say that. As we all know, every player has their price. Silly money would talk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
All of Sevco's new players are playing tonight. All of ours are injured!!!! You couldn't make it up.
I'm watching the Gers game and they are rank rotten to be fair.Quote:
Originally Posted by Famous Fiver
To be expected given ne'er of new players they have brought in We know they are there to beaten on SaturdayQuote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
But it's what they play like in their first four or five leaugue games that will indicate how they are gelling as a team
Dave King Exclusive on SSN coming on at 4 o'clock today.
Anything with regards Scotty Allan without having spoken to Hibs first should be reported.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Unsettling our players is typical of those *****!
King not paying back Ashley. Meeting with Sports Direct this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aldo
King has a nice house.
Ha looks like Ashley will have his lawyers on it!Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Cheers for that Silver!
King just keeps saying it is down to the fans to buy ST if they want to be the No 1 club in Scotland again.
No talk of him and his investors putting any money in to the club. Fans need to do that.
35000 Bottles o mammy mine tae be drunkQuote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
That cellar just needs a plasma and a comfy seat and most important of all, a cork screw.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibees 7062
Has a good relationship with Ashley, good yin.
Just sounded like a Jim White love in with king, King rattling the begging bowl saying the fans need to pull the finger out. Seems to think Ashley just going to roll over, ha ha, can't see that.
More p*%h from King to follow.
Hard hitting journalism from White there.
Up there with Frost/Nixon.
Has King asked White if he was fornicating yesterday?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
'So, Dave, why are you so rich'?
Half a dozen weegies wouldn't take long tae sort that cellar out , then chore the plasmaQuote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
In the London Evening Standard tonight Warbs is quoted as saying [that after signing Fotheringham, Kiernan and Wilson] "the backing we have received from the owner and the board has been outstanding". Outstanding, aye?
As I've said before King is skint and will put no money into The Rangers.
More telling that The Rangers are not buying merchandising and that this is hurting them - King apparently will make up shortfall :aok: (aye right then)Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Mind....how funny (in a way) would it be if Ashley said to Hibs, 'I'll give you £2.5 million for Allan for the 'Toon and loaned him back to us' :faf:
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Originally Posted by silverhibee
Were they not telling us a couple of weeks that tickets were flying out the door?
The back door :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by The Falcon
My previous statement re: 'the Rod Petrie factor' ?. It isn't a statement of fact, it's my opinion - sorry but as I said, even though things are improving presently, it doesn't make up for the years and years of total mis-management and dross-football. My dis-trust in him stems from all the years of repeatedly being told by him that once the stadium-improvements were done, then all funding/concentration would be to fielding a team to match the surroundings - we got relegated.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Would have been a better idea to renegotiate the retail deal before launching the new season shirts, surely?
Although I think Ashley will just ask for his £5m back.
Probably means the payments are 'outstanding' and still due to be paid.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cropley10
Has as the London Court decided how much of Sports Directs eye watering legal bill Sevco had to pay ?
Apparently made a ridiculously low offer which was rejected straight away 😜
It's strange that a team who are seemingly so broke and not got a pot to pee in are able to bring in players as they do - ok they have offloaded some serious debris from last season which must have released some funds but they are 'buying' the Wigan folks, paying for Holt and now seem to have tempted Allan into wanting a move - there must be dosh on offer so I am intrigued how they are able to blag their way through?
Not saying there is a reasonable answer but logic says that if the folks who say they are rooked then there is something wrong with either the belief or they are loading the debt in the hope of either promotion or Christ knows what!!
Sorry for the rant - just gutted that they are even in existence these days!!
Time for a sit down I think
They have their season ticket money. That's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Platinum Scotty
Insufficient to cover their current running costs by some distance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
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Originally Posted by magpie1892
The unpaid bills will be stacking up. Wages and the taxman will be covered but every one else will be in the drawer until they scream loud enough.
Remember the lists of the last Rangers and our Gorgie neighbours when the admin was called.
Sevco co are stretching out the Season ticket money hoping for a sugar daddy or a new share issue or even a sympathetic ex Hun manager giving them a million for some academy player.
its time this weakness was exploited to unsettle the faithful, the creditors and their players.
One things for sure, if you sell Sevco a player on an instalments basis you'll end up on the creditors list.
How many points will they be deducted if/when they go into admin this year?
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Originally Posted by Waxy
Thanks.They might still get 4th.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
I don't believe The Rangers will be allowed to go into Admin. I can't see how King and his cohorts would benefit so they'll do what's necessary to keep them going.