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30-07-2013, 10:43 PM
Hibs07p

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Originally Posted by hibees 7062

Me to , dont you think tiny is right up their street ?

Definitely, and agreed, they wouldn't give a *****, to turn a profit. Their online portfolio is quite impressive too.

GGTTH
30-07-2013, 10:48 PM
sidneyhibbie

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Originally Posted by Hibs07p

If it's the builders I'm thinking about, their website is decked out in nice colours. I worked on one of their developments in Muirston Place around 1987/88.

GGTTH

Details please ? i think a letter should be sent.:aok:
30-07-2013, 10:58 PM
Hibs07p

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Details please ? i think a letter should be sent.:aok:

Sidney, Hibs07p believes he should see the quality of your correspondence previously sent, before he can reveal his knowledge of building developers, that allegedly might have an interest, in purchasing Tinnie.

GGTTH
30-07-2013, 11:50 PM
monktonharp

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Originally Posted by hibees 7062

I thought it was the brothers that built all over gorgie . This would be right up their street and they wouldnd give a F about heartz

I am now inTEAGUED as to what's next, unless it was approaching MILLER time, but surely no Edin. based developer would have the HART to take on a project like Tynie?
31-07-2013, 12:24 AM
HUTCHYHIBBY

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Originally Posted by monktonharp

the Chinese, biggest population in the world as everyone knows, are buying up land ,properties , etc all over the place. Edin. quarter mile for example. alright, it's virtually built but what's to stop them gettin' a finger in the pie buying up disused premises next? someone mentioned a lot of money sloshing around, a few pages back but when it comes to a lot of money sloshing around, there are some very intelligent, business people with a lot of clout in the ever growing Chinese community in the whole of the UK.

Certainly seems to be a Far East invasion taking place in the Slateford area recently.
31-07-2013, 03:19 AM
jae

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Originally Posted by monktonharp

I am now inTEAGUED as to what's next, unless it was approaching MILLER time, but surely no Edin. based developer would have the HART to take on a project like Tynie?

AM A wee bit sure a certain developer was linked with a rumoured takeover a wee while back. :cb
31-07-2013, 05:41 AM
green glory

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

I heard from (almost) the horses mouth today of one Edinburgh based property developer very interested in the Tynecastle site. They are. 'watching with interest' at the moment.

Not going to name them but they aren't one that has been mentioned thus far in the thread eg Cala et al. Have done quite a bit redevelopment work in Edinburgh over the years though as well as abroad. They also redeveloped a site not a million miles away from Tynecastle several years ago.

Smart's ?
31-07-2013, 06:04 AM
Kaiser1962

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Originally Posted by Sergey

They resigned from A-Lyga and turned to amateur status and plied their trade in what's best described as ' Lithuanian Pub League' matches. Still amateur to this day. From what I've been told, they'll fold completely in the coming months.

His other club, MTZ RIPO withdrew from the Belarus league during the 2012 season leaving the league in turmoil and they also went amateur. They re-branded (can't remember new name) and are now resigned to history.

Good things do come in three's, don't they?

His diversification into football has not really went well. Is that accurate?
31-07-2013, 06:35 AM
IndieHibby

Apologies if the answer to this question has been posted previously (believe me - I do try to keep up, but this story is the gift that is too generous!);
what mileage is there in the stories which went about recently about planning permission on Tynecastle? Can the land be sold on the open market or are there 'restrictions'?
31-07-2013, 07:15 AM
Just Alf

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Originally Posted by IndieHibby

Apologies if the answer to this question has been posted previously (believe me - I do try to keep up, but this story is the gift that is too generous!);
what mileage is there in the stories which went about recently about planning permission on Tynecastle? Can the land be sold on the open market or are there 'restrictions'?

It's ok, this keeps coming up.

In the sales particulars for the old school (which is right next door to the ethanol tanks) The council have stated
McFarlan Smith are no longer an issue (due to changes in use etc within the plant)
The ethanol tanks from british distillers do still come into play, although this impact may be reduced ( last I heard from an employee only one of the tanks are in use.)

For the school, the development can be offices (max 3 floors and something like 200 staff), retail outlets or storage.... This is more strict than the stadium which is further away. The plans showing the zoning impact on the stadium indicate it just the north west corner that's actually impacted.
On iPad so don't have it to hand but I have a map which I'll post later that shows the current position.

One other thing to add is that BD actively want to move their operation out to the site at Addiewell so all the above could disappear as an issue... That's why BD had agreed to move and finance half the costs when the yams were talking about redevelopment.... If the buyers of the school and the stadium were to share costs (unless they end up being the same company :D ) then they could relatively easily make all this go away!
31-07-2013, 07:31 AM
Springbank

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Originally Posted by monktonharp

I am now inTEAGUED as to what's next, unless it was approaching MILLER time, but surely no Edin. based developer would have the HART to take on a project like Tynie?

I hear Keepmoat are experts at demolishing old stadia, such as in Donnie

It's about time that one "Doncaster" in this whole sorry saga actually does something that does Scottish society a favour...
31-07-2013, 07:42 AM
IndieHibby

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Originally Posted by Sir Alf R

For the school, the development can be offices (max 3 floors and something like 200 staff), retail outlets or storage.... This is more strict than the stadium which is further away. The plans showing the zoning impact on the stadium indicate it just the north west corner that's actually impacted.

Thanks for that. If I can paraphrase, what you are saying is that worst case scenario, the NW corner (of the land at Tynecastle) could be used for storage, retail, office etc while the remaining land could be used for anything (say, housing :wink:)?

mmmm..... A new flat/housing development plus a Tesco Express? :hilarious

This is gold dust. A typically deluded and verbally incontinent Yam I occasionally speak to is spouting loads of pish about the land not being available for development. This should shut his coupon up for a while...

Consequently, this means that the Lith admin would be mad (and/or criminally negligent) to refuse the market value (or £6.8M min) as a deal for CVA?

Check mate.
31-07-2013, 07:48 AM
Just Alf

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Originally Posted by IndieHibby

Thanks for that. If I can paraphrase, what you are saying is that worst case scenario, the NW corner (of the land at Tynecastle) could be used for storage, retail, office etc while the remaining land could be used for anything (say, housing :wink:)?

mmmm..... A new flat/housing development plus a Tesco Express? :hilarious

This is gold dust. A typically deluded and verbally incontinent Yam I occasionally speak to is spouting loads of pish about the land not being available for development. This should shut his coupon up for a while...

Consequently, this means that the Lith admin would be mad (and/or criminally negligent) to refuse the market value (or £6.8M min) as a deal for CVA?

Check mate.

:thumbsup:

here's the plan which shows current impacted area (the Yams have this info, they just keep brushing it under the carpet)

Attachment 10748
31-07-2013, 07:49 AM
greenpaper55

Bathgate at it again http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...eded-1-3022590

He has become the mouthpiece for the yams, he should stick to his beloved rugby as he knows nowt.
31-07-2013, 07:55 AM
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Originally Posted by IndieHibby

Thanks for that. If I can paraphrase, what you are saying is that worst case scenario, the NW corner (of the land at Tynecastle) could be used for storage, retail, office etc while the remaining land could be used for anything (say, housing :wink:)?

mmmm..... A new flat/housing development plus a Tesco Express? :hilarious

This is gold dust. A typically deluded and verbally incontinent Yam I occasionally speak to is spouting loads of pish about the land not being available for development. This should shut his coupon up for a while...

Consequently, this means that the Lith admin would be mad (and/or criminally negligent) to refuse the market value (or £6.8M min) as a deal for CVA?

Check mate.

I would have thought that that would be the minimum price they should be looking for.

And then of course there's the question (which the administrators as far as I'm aware should definitely address) of how much more the buyer has in his kitty to actually run the club after he buys it?

Or am I wrong?
31-07-2013, 07:57 AM
IndieHibby

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Originally Posted by Sir Alf R

:thumbsup:

here's the plan which shows current impacted area (the Yams have this info, they just keep brushing it under the carpet)

Attachment 10748

:aok:
31-07-2013, 08:17 AM
sidneyhibbie

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Originally Posted by IndieHibby

:aok:

Letters to EDC Planning Department being sent today Sidney will uncover the facts about the PBS And out them.

Sidney.:hnet:
31-07-2013, 08:22 AM
robinp

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Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Letters to EDC Planning Department being sent today Sidney will uncover the facts about the PBS And out them.

Sidney.:hnet:

Robinp thinks Sidney is a good lad.
31-07-2013, 08:59 AM
hibs0666

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Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Letters to EDC Planning Department being sent today Sidney will uncover the facts about the PBS And out them.

Sidney.:hnet:

Sidney has been writing letters for weeks now. Does Sidney ever get a reply? :wink:
31-07-2013, 09:02 AM
Mac

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Originally Posted by hibs0666

Sidney has been writing letters for weeks now. Does Sidney ever get a reply? :wink:

I think Sidney has paper and crayons along with maroon padding on the walls!!
31-07-2013, 09:16 AM
hibees 7062

Quote:

Originally Posted by monktonharp

I am now inTEAGUED as to what's next, unless it was approaching MILLER time, but surely no Edin. based developer would have the HART to take on a project like Tynie?

:greengrin
31-07-2013, 09:19 AM
Sergey

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Originally Posted by Sir Alf R

:thumbsup:

here's the plan which shows current impacted area (the Yams have this info, they just keep brushing it under the carpet)

Attachment 10748

Wasn't there some sort of plans years ago that could pave the way for the possible purchase and relocation of the distillery? If so, that whole plot could be very lucrative with the hazard removed.
31-07-2013, 09:30 AM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergey

Wasn't there some sort of plans years ago that could pave the way for the possible purchase and relocation of the distillery? If so, that whole plot could be very lucrative with the hazard removed.

If hearts are liquidated the hazard will be removed permanently
31-07-2013, 09:42 AM
sidjames

So. In order to get the Plummets onside any developer should do the following.

Name the new development Tyncastle Park Estate. Roads should John Robertson Avenue, Inoorshadow Lane and so on. Number them all 15 (A, B and so on) Then they can start a Freedom of Housing group and can continue to sqaubble and waffle about taking it all over. A wee memorial to our great war saviours would be a nice touch. Maybe a giant poppy. Where they can reflect on past glories. Hubris come to mind and the fact that is is an anagram of Ur Hibis is a nice touch.

Just a thought:flag:
31-07-2013, 09:46 AM
Treadstone

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Originally Posted by greenpaper55

Bathgate at it again http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...eded-1-3022590

He has become the mouthpiece for the yams, he should stick to his beloved rugby as he knows nowt.

Beginning to look like a serialisation. "This week only in the Hootsman"
31-07-2013, 10:00 AM
MB62

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Alf R

:thumbsup:

here's the plan which shows current impacted area (the Yams have this info, they just keep brushing it under the carpet)

Attachment 10748

I hope this plan doesn't fall in to the hands of the Ukio Bankas administrators/liquidators. Can you imagine if somebody found an e-mail address or fax number for them? that could be a disaster for the Yams :wink: :greengrin
31-07-2013, 10:01 AM
Springbank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibbyspy

So. In order to get the Plummets onside any developer should do the following.

Name the new development Tyncastle Park Estate. Roads should John Robertson Avenue, Inoorshadow Lane and so on. Number them all 15 (A, B and so on) Then they can start a Freedom of Housing group and can continue to sqaubble and waffle about taking it all over. A wee memorial to our great war saviours would be a nice touch. Maybe a giant poppy. Where they can reflect on past glories. Hubris come to mind and the fact that is is an anagram of Ur Hibis is a nice touch.

Just a thought:flag:

A becardiganed Neighbourhood Watch is a given, and condominium rules will include "no houses or flats to be numbered 07, 26, 62 or 70"

Jim Jefferies is lurking in the sales Portacabin just in case he gets a call
31-07-2013, 10:02 AM
Moulin Yarns

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Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Letters to EDC Planning Department being sent today Sidney will uncover the facts about the PBS And out them.

Sidney.:hnet:

What question is Sidney asking the CEC Planning Department?

Does Sidney know that there is no Planning Application to redevelop Tynecastle as anything other than a football stadium, not even by CALA?
31-07-2013, 10:05 AM
CB_NO3

Its not really hard to get round it. If you bought the land, flatten the ground and tar mac it and run it as a private car park for a few years. Wait 3 or 4 years till land and house prices increase then build on it. By that time the council would all but grant you planning permission as they would rather have trendy flats on it rather than an ugly car park.
31-07-2013, 10:13 AM
sidneyhibbie

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Originally Posted by hibs0666

Sidney has been writing letters for weeks now. Does Sidney ever get a reply? :wink:

Not yet but i am following up asking why they have not replied to me
31-07-2013, 10:19 AM
Ozyhibby

Any reason why BDO have not published a report on all the debts Hearts had at the point they went into admin or is it too soon?
Also, have they given a guide as to who exactly gets to vote on the CVA proposal?
31-07-2013, 10:39 AM
Treadstone

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Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Not yet but i am following up asking why they have not replied to me

Have you ever written to the yams ? I am sure you know their address.
31-07-2013, 10:41 AM
Onion

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Originally Posted by CB_NO3

Its not really hard to get round it. If you bought the land, flatten the ground and tar mac it and run it as a private car park for a few years. Wait 3 or 4 years till land and house prices increase then build on it. By that time the council would all but grant you planning permission as they would rather have trendy flats on it rather than an ugly car park.

Exactly. All that rubbish about land values, lack of permission and rep damage. Anyone buying that land will make good money within a short time. Clearing the Yams out of Gorgie will immediately improve the area and land values .
31-07-2013, 10:47 AM
Benny Brazil

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Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Not yet but i am following up asking why they have not replied to me

Good man sidney - I admire your enthusiasm
31-07-2013, 10:53 AM
Just Alf

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergey

Wasn't there some sort of plans years ago that could pave the way for the possible purchase and relocation of the distillery? If so, that whole plot could be very lucrative with the hazard removed.

There is...

The position is that the distillery WANT to move the function/tanks to Addiewell but can't afford to do it on their own.... the original agreement was for the Yams to pick up half the cost. They'd still keep the rest in place (no more moving ethanol in tankers through the streets of Gorgie tho!).

And just to be clear the separate issue with McFarlane Smith no longer exists.
31-07-2013, 10:56 AM
southsider

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Originally Posted by Onion

Exactly. All that rubbish about land values, lack of permission and rep damage. Anyone buying that land will make good money within a short time. Clearing the Yams out of Gorgie will immediately improve the area and land values .

This is true as the prices on flats built near football grounds are always lower as who wants drunken weegies spewing up and peeing in their stairwell. Without PBS any builder could be on to make a tidy sum.
31-07-2013, 10:57 AM
sadtom

Personally i've nae problem wi Bathgate, Anderson, Fatty Foulkes, Cardownie et al trying to save their club. So long as its not out the public purse or that they are getting preferential treatment compared to us.
Its funny that the hahahawrts support have 'played possum' for years only to wait for the ship to sink to start desperately thrashing about in the water. Cause that only attracts the sharks! :-)
31-07-2013, 11:01 AM
HUTCHYHIBBY

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Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Not yet but i am following up asking why they have not replied to me

A SAE with each letter should ensure a fuller bag for sidneys postie. Probably not a good idea to be there when he empties the contents through your letterbox though.
31-07-2013, 11:02 AM
Treadstone

Quote:

Originally Posted by sadtom

Personally i've nae problem wi Bathgate, Anderson, Fatty Foulkes, Cardownie et al trying to save their club. So long as its not out the public purse or that they are getting preferential treatment compared to us.
Its funny that the hahahawrts support have 'played possum' for years only to wait for the ship to sink to start desperately thrashing about in the water. Cause that only attracts the sharks! :-)

Me neither. However the abuse of their positions and lies is not on.
Foulkes : "I will be speaking to the Lithuanian ambassador".
Banderson : Too many but the "Wonga million" is the cherry on the cake.
Bathgate : Thinks he is is editing a fanzine in his last two columns.
31-07-2013, 11:07 AM
FranckSuzy

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Letters to EDC Planning Department being sent today Sidney will uncover the facts about the PBS And out them.

Sidney.:hnet:

Quote:

Originally Posted by sidneyhibbie

Not yet but i am following up asking why they have not replied to me

FranckSuzy thinks Sidney must have cramp from all that w.....riting :wink:
31-07-2013, 11:12 AM
Dunderhall

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Alf R

There is...

The position is that the distillery WANT to move the function/tanks to Addiewell but can't afford to do it on their own.... the original agreement was for the Yams to pick up half the cost. They'd still keep the rest in place (no more moving ethanol in tankers through the streets of Gorgie tho!).

And just to be clear the separate issue with McFarlane Smith no longer exists.

I'm sure the joint cost was £2M for the move.

£1M for a big increase in land value, and it would remove the hazard on the old school which is currently for sale. £500K each seems a decent option.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HUTCHYHIBBY

A SAE with each letter should ensure a fuller bag for sidneys postie. Probably not a good idea to be there when he empties the contents through your letterbox though.

Just to be clear Sidney, the SAE goes inside the letter.
Although the other option might be the only way to get a reply.
31-07-2013, 11:18 AM
CropleyWasGod

Meeting of creditors to be held on 12 August.

Just been advised, and have BDO's report.

More anon.

Question... how does one attach a PDF here?
31-07-2013, 11:20 AM
Just Alf

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Meeting of creditors to be held on 12 August.

Just been advised, and have BDO's report.

More anon.

:partyhibb
31-07-2013, 11:32 AM
bingo70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sir Alf R

:partyhibb

Is this good news?
31-07-2013, 11:33 AM
Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Meeting of creditors to be held on 12 August.

Just been advised, and have BDO's report.

More anon.

Question... how does one attach a PDF here?

Mail it to [email protected] if you can't.......... erm.......... get it up :greengrin
31-07-2013, 11:34 AM
CropleyWasGod

1 Attachment(s)

Attachment 10751

Here you go. Knock yourselves out.
31-07-2013, 11:39 AM
Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Attachment 10751

Here you go. Knock yourselves out.

Pages 20-23, is that who they're due money to?
31-07-2013, 11:41 AM
Ozyhibby

Anyone willing to summarise? Can't see it on my phone.
31-07-2013, 11:42 AM
CropleyWasGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey

Pages 20-23, is that who they're due money to?

Yes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Anyone willing to summarise? Can't see it on my phone.

It's 45 pages long, so.... NAW. :greengrin
31-07-2013, 11:43 AM
Waxy

Cant on my phone either. Much frustrations. Missing much juicyness. Spill please.
31-07-2013, 11:44 AM
Mikey

They're due money to Lady Haig's Poppy Factory :Ummm:

EDIT - And McCrae's Battalion Trust.
31-07-2013, 11:46 AM
Ozyhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

It's 45 pages long, so.... NAW. :greengrin

Nightmare, going to have to walk all the way downstairs to check the PC. Hope your proud of yourself. :-)
31-07-2013, 11:46 AM
lord bunberry

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hibbyspy

So. In order to get the Plummets onside any developer should do the following.

Name the new development Tyncastle Park Estate. Roads should John Robertson Avenue, Inoorshadow Lane and so on. Number them all 15 (A, B and so on) Then they can start a Freedom of Housing group and can continue to sqaubble and waffle about taking it all over. A wee memorial to our great war saviours would be a nice touch. Maybe a giant poppy. Where they can reflect on past glories. Hubris come to mind and the fact that is is an anagram of Ur Hibis is a nice touch.

Just a thought:flag:

Romanov loan would be a good name for a street
31-07-2013, 11:47 AM
bingo70

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey

They're due money to Lady Haig's Poppy Factory :Ummm:

EDIT - And McCrae's Battalion Trust.

And Liverpool so I'm guessing they must have 'paid' for Michael ngoo!!!!!
31-07-2013, 11:50 AM
Ozyhibby

Tynecastle valued at £13m?
Interesting.
31-07-2013, 11:51 AM
Killiehibbie

If Tynecastle has a book price of £13,750,000 how much is the land really worth?
31-07-2013, 11:51 AM
CropleyWasGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Tynecastle valued at £13m?
Interesting.

No. It is currently being valued/ has been valued by Jones Lasalle. The valuation has been omitted to avoid prejudicing any sales negotiation.
31-07-2013, 11:53 AM
Ozyhibby

Owe Heriot watt £145k.
Also stiffed the red cross. Shameless.
31-07-2013, 11:55 AM
Barney McGrew

Some interesting stuff in the creditors list.

£146k to Heriot Watt
£46 to Liverpool
£5k to Musselburgh Atheltic
£18k to the Police
£12k to Stenhousemuir
£90k to the Council
31-07-2013, 11:55 AM
Craig_in_Prague

they owe the SFA ? lol
31-07-2013, 11:56 AM
Ozyhibby

Lady haigs poppy factory in there as well.
31-07-2013, 11:56 AM
Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Owe Heriot watt £145k.
Also stiffed the red cross. Shameless.

The whole list is shameless. They were actively looking to sign more players while due all that money, some of it to charities and small businesses.

Absolutely disgusting.
31-07-2013, 11:56 AM
jonty

90.7k due to the council plus another 2.6k for flats

Only £56 for TNT though - must have been that planning application.
31-07-2013, 11:59 AM
Ozyhibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by jonty

90.7k due to the council plus another 2.6k for flats

Only £56 for TNT though - must have been that planning application.

Thought the council had said a much lower figure than that. Someone telling porkies?
31-07-2013, 12:00 PM
lord bunberry

They have been collecting money for their big hearts charity and spending it on players wages, what a disgusting shameless bunch of cretins they are.
31-07-2013, 12:00 PM
Mikey

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Originally Posted by Some Dick On Kickback

Love to know how vermin.net has hold of this when the club website would be the first place for this to be listed on.

Because if you want the truth you know where to come :wink:
31-07-2013, 12:00 PM
MixuMac

So they owe just short of £28.5m in total
31-07-2013, 12:01 PM
Springbank

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Attachment 10751

Here you go. Knock yourselves out.

A useful thing to bookmark cheers

When any yams try to play the victim card I'll show them this - these people are the real victims, including macrae poppies et al
31-07-2013, 12:01 PM
Sergey

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey

The whole list is shameless. They were actively looking to sign more players while due all that money, some of it to charities and small businesses.

Absolutely disgusting.

Utter vermin - they've even trousered the poppy appeal monies.

That's truly beyond the pale.
31-07-2013, 12:01 PM
Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by lord bunberry

They have been collecting money for their big hearts charity and spending it on players wages, what a disgusting shameless bunch of cretins they are.

Yep, there are several charities listed.

Any thoughts on that Mr Bathgate??
31-07-2013, 12:01 PM
CropleyWasGod

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey

Because if you want the truth you know where to come :wink:

It is in the public domain. I got it from Companies House for £1.

Up yours, random dick :greengrin
31-07-2013, 12:02 PM
jgl07

Money owed to The Rangers Football Club (c/o BDO) £1,410

Well they owe that one to themselves!
31-07-2013, 12:02 PM
scott7_0(Prague)

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Attachment 10751

Here you go. Knock yourselves out.

I have remaned the PDF "46 shades of maroon" - this is so pornographic reading.
31-07-2013, 12:02 PM
CropleyWasGod

By the way, guys, somewhere in there, BDO say that more creditors are expected to be added.
31-07-2013, 12:03 PM
Mikey

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

By the way, guys, somewhere in there, BDO say that more creditors are expected to be added.

Get your name on the list and get your £1 back :aok:
31-07-2013, 12:04 PM
Ozyhibby

Stenhousemuir F.C. £12k
31-07-2013, 12:07 PM
Mikey

I wonder if the Scott Wilson owed £1000 is the same roaster who announces to everyone that it's another sold out Tynecastle (when you can clearly see lots of empty seats).
31-07-2013, 12:07 PM
Gatecrasher

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sergey

Utter vermin - they've even trousered the poppy appeal monies.

That's truly beyond the pale.

One of the main things they pride themselves on is the poppy fund etc and they even shafted them :yw:
31-07-2013, 12:09 PM
Springbank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

Stenhousemuir F.C. £12k

A pretty significant sum for a small maroon clad team in the lower divisions...

...as FoH may sometime find out the hard way

Contemptible club
31-07-2013, 12:10 PM
Andy74

Always pretty disgusting when you see these lists and they have been trying to sign players.
31-07-2013, 12:11 PM
Lester B

Quote:

Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

It is in the public domain. I got it from Companies House for £1.

Up yours, random dick :greengrin

The most perfect post on this entire thread!

Anyone notice Scrubbers Laundry Services? Do we know any famous Hearts fan who might need awkward stains removed from an item of clothing such as his breeks?
31-07-2013, 12:12 PM
Ozyhibby

So the 'Big Hearts community trust' was actually collecting money for the club to spend on players?
Bit naughty.
31-07-2013, 12:13 PM
Cabbage East

So included amongst the creditors are; various NHS boards, Edinburgh City Council, Police Scotland, Heriot Watt university, various charities including those affiliated to themselves, lower division football clubs, ordinary supporters. And all this while attempting to sign more players and actively increase their wage bill.

They are a vile, disgusting club and I hope that they die soon.

Also worth noting a couple of creditors on the last page there - Savills and one Scott Wilson :greengrin
31-07-2013, 12:14 PM
GloryGlory

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mikey

Yep, there are several charities listed.

Any thoughts on that Mr Bathgate??

Disgraceful.

Maybe I Murray MP and Lord FFSake can be prevailed upon to start a campaign to ensure that charities are refunded 100p in the £.

BTW, is there a figure for what is owed to HMRC? Looks like they have stiffed us taxpayers for £18k (polis), £90k (Cooncil) and £145k (HWU - an organisation that relies on public funding for a high amount of its annual income, so we'll end up picking up this one way or another).

Cooncillors also need to be questioned about why the Yams have been allowed to run up debts of £90k, when their credit rating must have been negative for quite some time now.
31-07-2013, 12:14 PM
wallmack

the issued share cap is £146 million???? Is this the true value of the amount the Liths have been stiffed for?
31-07-2013, 12:15 PM
PapillonVert

Total debt = £28.99 million.

Nothing left for the unsecured creditors after secured creditors (Ukio) taken care of.

As others have said, totally shameless depriving the public purse, other clubs, charities and small businesses of literally millions.

But, hey ho, 1-5, 1902, "it's all been worth it" and all that. Big team?

Edinburgh's Big Disgrace more like.

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

BTW, is there a figure for what is owed to HMRC? Looks like they have stiffed us taxpayers for £18k (polis), £90k (Cooncil) and

Think I saw £1.8 million mentioned somewhere.
31-07-2013, 12:15 PM
OrdHibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

So the 'Big Hearts community trust' was actually collecting money for the club to spend on players?
Bit naughty.

Should HMRC not be investigating this. :cb
31-07-2013, 12:16 PM
Barney McGrew

Quote:

Originally Posted by GloryGlory

BTW, is there a figure for what is owed to HMRC?.

Just shy of £1.9m
31-07-2013, 12:17 PM
Caversham Green

Noticeable that they owe UBIG £8m - down from the £10m that it was earlier in the year. So while they were stiffing charities and community football clubs and selling non-existent shares, Vlad and Sergey were raking back as much as they could. And UBIG are now insolvent, so there's no chance of raking it back as a preferential payment.
31-07-2013, 12:17 PM
Wing Half

Shred-It (East Of Scotland) Ltd - £457.20
31-07-2013, 12:18 PM
KWJ

Who are these guys that hearts are due over a half mil to? Ensco 396.

http://www.companieslist.co.uk/SC444...co-396-limited
31-07-2013, 12:18 PM
PapillonVert

Quote:

Originally Posted by OrdHibby

Should HMRC not be investigating this. :cb

Should the SFO not be investigating the whole shameless bunch?

Self-sufficient? Aye, right. Never in a million years on these figures.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caversham Green

Noticeable that they owe UBIG £8m - down from the £10m that it was earlier in the year. So while they were stiffing charities and community football clubs and selling non-existent shares, Vlad and Sergey were raking back as much as they could. And UBIG are now insolvent, so there's no chance of raking it back as a preferential payment.

Possibly where the season ticket money vanished to perhaps?
31-07-2013, 12:18 PM
Ozyhibby

Football debt £535k. There's a nice little hole in a newco balance sheet there.
31-07-2013, 12:19 PM
Darth Hibbie

Quote:

Originally Posted by Caversham Green

Noticeable that they owe UBIG £8m - down from the £10m that it was earlier in the year. So while they were stiffing charities and community football clubs and selling non-existent shares, Vlad and Sergey were raking back as much as they could. And UBIG are now insolvent, so there's no chance of raking it back as a preferential payment.

Paid for by the bogus share issue?
31-07-2013, 12:20 PM
Hank Schrader

There was another document lodged at Companies House that day titled;

"NOTICE OF INSUFFICIENT PROPERTY FOR DISTRIBUTION TO UNSECURED CREDITORS OTHER THAN BY VIRTUE OF S176A(2)A"

Do any of our insolvency experts know why such a document would be lodged?
31-07-2013, 12:21 PM
Geo_1875

There's a number of individuals named as owed £100.

Looks like they asked for their share money back too late.
31-07-2013, 12:22 PM
KWJ

Think how old some of these debts must be as surely very few would've given them credit in the past couple years.
31-07-2013, 12:22 PM
Hank Schrader

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keith Wright Jnr

Who are these guys that hearts are due over a half mil to? Ensco 396.

http://www.companieslist.co.uk/SC444...co-396-limited

Spotted that too, only incorporated on 7th March 2013. Registered office seems to be HBJ. Lot of debt to rack up in three months. :confused:
31-07-2013, 12:22 PM
Part/Time Supporter

BTW, if folk are wondering why this document was released now, it was prepared in case Ukio had accepted any of the bids made last week (26 July). If they had accepted then they would have proceeded to a CVA vote within 14 to 28 days.

As it is, the meeting on 12 August will now just decide whether to appoint a creditors' committee, as the administrator doesn't yet have an agreed proposal for the creditors to consider.
31-07-2013, 12:22 PM
OrdHibby

Quote:

Originally Posted by PapillonVert

Should the SFO not be investigating the whole shameless bunch?

Self-sufficient? Aye, right. Never in a million years on these figures.

The SFO are as bent as Hawrts and the city of Edinburgh council

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