Is Ireland more boom and bust than the UK?
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Is Ireland more boom and bust than the UK?
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Well the shocks to the economy were Brexit, COVID and Ukraine. The oil price shock of the early 70s had a long lasting impact.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Ok. I implied your inference was erroneous, but I was.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
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I would say so, but sometimes it is for understandable reasons. This is an interesting (but quite lengthy) analysis of the last 100 years! https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/shar...1111/ehr.13106Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I would say 100 years ago the UK was way richer. It made it so. I’m more interested in the last 30 years?Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
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Well it uses the period up to the 80s to frame what happened then.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
US news report https://www.cnbc.com/2022/09/08/iris...ill-looms.html
A more historical left perspective
https://www.socialeurope.eu/irelands...bubble-to-bust
https://www.socialeurope.eu/irelands...ancy-to-brexit
Ireland was rich but the UK exploited it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Do you want to say more about what you mean?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
What I mean? When Ireland gained independence it was in chaos. Before then GB treated it as a breadbasket. You have heard of the Irish Potato Famine? The potato famine didnt cause starvation, it only had an affect on the potato crop. The export from Ireland of perfectly good produce to GB dinner tables, which continued well after the 1840's.Quote:
Originally Posted by archie
Colonial exploitation doesn't come in a more obvious story.
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I was more trying to tease out what you mean by 'rich'. I am, of course' aware of the potato famine. I'm trying to work out how Ireland would fit in the traditional colonial model - exploitation for primary products and tethered market for manufactured goods. None of this suggests I approve of what was done in Ireland.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kato
Rich in agrictiral produce and workers.
Rich in industrial workers and know how.
It was also rich in aristocratic landowners and exploitative industrialists who carted the riches into their own pockets but, it was still rich.
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Microsoft, on setting up a business in the UK:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FutTtKcW...pg&name=medium
As the Microsoft deal is potentially going to be challenged in the US and the EU is going slow on it, I don't think the Microsoft man's targeting is fair.
Microsoft. Couldn't happen to a nicer bunch of sharks.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
great speech from John Nicolson :agree:
https://www.facebook.com/TheLondonEc...01461643857907
#BrexitReality
https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/guy...-frankly-nuts/
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“What Brexit was largely about was people at the top being able to employ the rest of the country for a lot less and pay a lot less tax,” he says
Turkeys & Christmas
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Fvt24M3W...g&name=900x900
The 6-day, 60 hour week beckons. :deal:Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
It's what we voted for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
I hope the Brexiters rot in hell for what they've done to this country.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FvyKnfqW...g&name=900x900
Stop thread. I've found a brexit benefit the right to have more arsenic in our baby food. No red tape for us take that remoaners
https://twitter.com/Otto_English/sta...94937017090050
Is invoking the Iraq war lies always a legitimate way to counter anything Alistair Campbell says?
Personally I loved him taking a pop at the BBC in this.......
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z5S0...ZgR9pbRkgPqygJ
Ignoring the point that ALL but two Tories voted with the Government on the vote to Invade Iraq. That was 2 out of 166 Tories.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Out of 410 Labour MPs 84 voted against the war. A much higher proportion.
An absolute nonsense (and well dated) attack line.
J
Always good to reveal these people for the grifters they are.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
https://twitter.com/Channel4News/sta...2E_bVQapA&s=19
Caught lying about lying and tries to intimidate the person doing the catching.
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Something nobody wanted which provides no additional value but was argued about for years is no longer going to happen.
Brexit in a nutshell.
What a momentously stupid waste of time and money.
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FwFzQotW...jpg&name=large
I sell in 50g and 100g, but for Americans who are a decent percentage of my customers I include imperial measuresQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Brexit: so much winning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-65612295\
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One of the world's biggest carmakers has called on the government to renegotiate part of the Brexit deal or risk losing parts of its car industry. Stellantis, which makes Vauxhall, Peugeot, Citroen and Fiat had committed to making electric vehicles in the UK.
But it has now said it is no longer able to meet Brexit trade rules on where parts are sourced.
Change would not compromise workers rights :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by grunt
https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/...ion-than-ever/
This will upset a good proportion of Brexit voters.
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