The cynicism on this thread is really quite embarrassing - there was definitely 44K there yesterday. Don't you know that ibrox has been doubled in size recently in preparation for sevco's imminent ascension to the English Premiership?
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The cynicism on this thread is really quite embarrassing - there was definitely 44K there yesterday. Don't you know that ibrox has been doubled in size recently in preparation for sevco's imminent ascension to the English Premiership?
Are you watching Mr Compliance Officer?
Poor crowds I was informed when I quizzed about the lean years attendances at the Brox - a protest.
when collectively as a support folks are this blinkered there's no point in arguing.
Yeah, I saw it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jonnyboy
The Orange ******* got what was coming to him. I hope it hurt.
Oh, and I'm offering him a 15-match suspension.
Vincent "Two Popes" Lunny.
Typical SFA being lenient with the huns :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
first I've seen of this, but the team/club captain is a disgrace. obviously trying to con the ref into giving them a peno. disgracefull stuff
Old saying, three guesses who the ref. was and the first two don't count.:greengrin
Even if there was half, even a quarter, of what they're claiming it's still more than we get in every week! Priorities guys
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Originally Posted by InterviewLoI
how do you mean :confused: what's priorities got to do with a 1/3 full castle grayskull :dunno:
What priorities should we have?Quote:
Originally Posted by InterviewLoI
It's quite a high priority of mine, thanks, to mock fantasist clubs - especially those who are bigger than us, and even if they've not yet been in existence for a year.Quote:
Originally Posted by InterviewLoI
:agree: Theres not enough time in the universe for all the mockery. Priority Number One.Quote:
Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
They are at it with eufa and FIFA brining in the money thing in to play (you can only pay out what you bring in )the Hun and the plastic paddy are at it saying they bring in more than they do so as to confirm with the new laws coming out
Charlie" The Yam" Richmond :na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by plhibs
http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/sport/f...laying-1783482
That guy continues to up the anti in talking sheite, i keep saying he cant say anything worse than his last statement, but he keeps giving more?
When you only have one drum, the tendency is to bang it all the time.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I know this was tongue in cheek but the orange b shouldn't have a place here...Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
It was satire.Quote:
Originally Posted by VickMackie
The comment was "written" by Vincent Lunny.
They've got to falsify their attendances. How can they be part of the European Elite club's set-up with attendances less than most English championship sides ?
Green is right with with one thing though, Sevco and OldHunCo are the same Club. Still the same lying, cheating bunch of obnoxious barstewards.
Let them leave Scottish football but make it clear it is a one-way ticket, no leaving a Rangers Colts behind as a free pass back if it is'nt the promised land.
If they leave they have to realise they are crossing the Rubicon ! Not that Chuckie would be likely to know what that is. :greengrin
Green thinks the £5bn Sky EPL needs his SFL3 newco zombie tribute act outfit... :faf:
Always a good chestnut to feed the horde with I guess.
Arrogant tos**r doesn't even begin to describe this man.
Bigger than Newcastle? Automatic top 10 because of their size.....twonk.
I have hesitated to post this as it sounded so far fetched but having read the Daily ****** quote here is what I heard a few days agoQuote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
from a friend who is a shareholder/ST holder at Carlisle Utd
' Green's people have had a chat with our board about buying Carlisle United and taking their place in 'League One ' ,not sure how far these talks have gone BUT .............. , no smoke without fire !!!. '
Easy journey W of Scotland to Carlisle by road /bus/train
Time will tell :rolleyes:
Well plausible. Didn't St Mirren sack a director for feeding the the huns info which would have been helpful to their taking over St Mirren to get a place in the SPL? :dunno:Quote:
Originally Posted by jdships
If you watch the highlights on the BBC website..it looks like a have decent attendance at the start. Looks like around 60-70% of the crown left before the end....which is strange since they "don't do walking away"
Glory seeking bigots that can't face watching their overpaid team scrape a draw.
Would Carlisle United get to keep their 5 titles? They'd be buying the club, not the company surely?Quote:
Originally Posted by jdships
Disrespecting some of the wry clubs they'll need support from. Telling the owner of one of their biggest sponsors they're a bigger club, having the audicity to suggest the fans of conference teams they'd flock to see them is funny.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I know but it could be misconstrued, you'll have the polis at your door I'm the morning. :tee hee:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Carlisle buying SevCo is more likely surely.
I watched Southampton play Wigan. The stadium wasn’t full – there were empty seats. Now there is no way any team Rangers play will have empty seats.
Except you can't fill your own stadium.
More hot air and baloney from Greene.....Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Two clubs have said "come and buy us and close us down"....:rolleyes:
"We would be bigger than Newcastle":rolleyes:
Does he really believe this, or has he been on the jungle juice/magic mushrooms combo?
He just needs several thousand knuckle-draggers to believe him :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Baldy Foghorn
He continually mouths off, and panders to the knuckle-draggers....Quote:
Originally Posted by TQM
Last week he was saying the Rangers must be in top division, now he is saying they will be off in 5 years......I can't wait for the day, these corrupt, bigoted, vile cretins, do leave, because they certainly will not be missed.....
Stuart 1888@white_italy21mWhy would Craig Whyte be appointed as a new board member of The rangers FC Group Limited on 21/3/2013. Last thursday? pic.twitter.com/w2qK3KWuhd
Retweeted by James Doleman
Nothing to do with the current set-up.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
It's the company formerly known as Wavetower, which was (IIRC) one of CW's vehicles in the previous regime.
It's about to be struck off.
http://wck2.companieshouse.gov.uk//compdetails
Go and retweet that :greengrin
That picture is bogus. Most of it is the company history of the parent company (formerly called Wavetower) Whyte used to acquire the old Rangers company, but the top line has been doctored to look like that. Some of the history has also been deleted (eg strike off suspended in August). No accounts were ever filed and it is still under a proposal to be struck off.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
The chances of Huns ever playing down south will forever remain a pipe dream for the them. They've been told they're not and never will be welcome so why do they think that'll ever change?!!Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibby
The big eared Yorkshirman obviously sees things differently.
How to deal with Rangers fans George Galloway style...........
http://m.youtube.com/#/watch?feature...ure%3Dyoutu.be
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22012125
I can appreciate that newco shouldn't be paying oldco bills, but if they continue to try and hang on to oldco history then why shouldn't they.
It was part of the SFA licence deal, so there should be no argument IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by jonty
Is this another Green, "no, we're actually newco moment!" ? :faf:
From the article
But of course they’re not the same, oh no, not in any way whatsoever.Quote:
Both oldco and newco Rangers initially stated they would not take part in proceedings but they were eventually represented by the same legal team at the hearing.
When he said that no blame was attached to (the) rangers fc... Wasn't it the case that they were found to have deliberately withheld the payment info and only kept their titles because there was no provision to make a player ineligible after they'd been considered eligible?
Nae luck Chuckie :greengrin
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22035246
It seems Whyte and Green DID know each other..
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...nt-for-me.html
And Greens response
http://www.thescottishsun.co.uk/scot...-get-Gers.html
Scam anyone ? :dunno:
Simple question, why has it taken Whyte so long to come up with "The Evidence"?Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaiser1962
I tend to agree with Green's view, "tell him what he wants to hear to get Rangers"
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Originally Posted by Pitlochry hibee
May'be he did'nt want to distract them in their quest for the 3rd division title. :greengrin
They deserve each other, IMO.
Green sounds a desperate man in the Hun. Tried to supress the story, Whytey produced the tapes, Hun prints the story. His rebuttal is pretty laughable just like all his statements. We will soon get to know who his Sevco mysterons really are, crooks R us.
White has admitted he told porkies so he could get the club, i suppose the authorities might be interested to know that a fit and proper person has lied to get control of a football club in Scotland. :rolleyes:
#Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I assume you mean Green but it does somewhat resemble fraud in any case.
Rangers/ The Rangers/ T'Rangers - the gift that keeps on giving, and giving. :greengrin
Would like to know what BDO make of this, surely already a decent case for gratuitous aliention by Duff and Phelps is now stronger . Plus the HMRC appeal still to report. The only sad thing is the majority of Sevco shares are locked in so we don't real the know the market sentiment on T'Rangers International stock. Hope there is some real pain ahead for Sevcovians.
From, SSN. Sally demanding answers from Green:
Ally McCoist hopes Rangers supporters can be spared further heartache as the latest row over the club's ownership heads for court.
Craig Whyte, who owned oldco Rangers until last year's administration and subsequent liquidation, is demanding a cut of the current club from chief executive Charles Green and is threatening legal action.
Whyte claims Green was acting as his frontman when he bought the remnants of oldco Rangers before transferring them to a new company and establishing the reformed club in Division Three this season.
Green has admitted sweet-talking Whyte during negotiations but, in an interview with the Scottish Sun, warned his predecessor any demand for shares or regular payments now is "not going to happen".
In the meantime, McCoist has again been left to face questions about boardroom wrangling, and the manager said: "I'll definitely be meeting Charles and having a chat.
"But without doubt again the main people I feel sorry for are the supporters who have kept this club going in the last 18 months.
"I definitely feel for them because just when we seem to be getting a bit of clarity something else comes from left field.
"I've got no doubts the press and media will be asking questions, as they rightly do, so I'd be very hopeful that once again our supporters can get answers they deserve."
In short, I think he now knows Green is another crook.
allys as crooked as whyte and green. no way he doesnt know the ins and outs of whats gone on with the ownership, he's invested his own money in the club. I'd file this in the same place as his demands to know the identity of the panel last summer as it's another disingenuous attempt to stay on side with the fans. At least this time the only person likely to come to harm as a result is uncle chuckles.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibby
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Originally Posted by South Sub
That could be the key phrase in bold. He knows there is potential the shares are suspended and his pot of Ibrox gold turns to a pot of sh it, hence why he's not doing the usual attempt to sweep this under the carpet. Trouble at Chuckle's mill!
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22035246
Is this another bill for Green to settle ? Its a good job he has got big hands, deep pockets would also help.
Did he ever have any chance of winning this one or was he just keeping the Bears onside.
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Originally Posted by down-the-slope
Keep up :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Is that Ally asking again to find out 'who these people really are' - difference being they are running the Asylum
http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/220791-c...tes-associate/
Charles Green agreed to receive £25,000 from Craig Whyte's associate
By Mike Farrell 9 April 2013 17:30 BST
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http://nfs.stvfiles.com/imagebase/12...ox-stadium.jpgCharles Green: The Rangers chief executive admitted agreeing to accept the £25,000 payment from Mr Whyte.SNS Group<a href="http://oas.stv.tv/RealMedia/ads/click_nx.ads/local.stv.tv/glasgow/220791-charles-green-agreed-to-receive-25000-from-craig-whytes-associate/11365526854@Frame1" target="_blank"> <img src="http://oas.stv.tv/RealMedia/ads/adstream_nx.ads/local.stv.tv/glasgow/220791-charles-green-agreed-to-receive-25000-from-craig-whytes-associate/11365526854@Frame1" alt="" /> </a>
Rangers chief executive Charles Green agreed to receive a £25,000 payment from Craig Whyte’s business partner during the early stages of his buyout of the club.
The transaction was made from Aidan Earley to Mr Green’s personal bank account, as the Sevco consortium moved into poll position in the bidding process.
STV has seen evidence that appears to suggest the £25,000 was sent to Mr Green’s account on May 11, 2012.
In an interview with STV News, Mr Green stated the cheque, which was to be used to pay legal fees for Field Fisher Waterhouse, bounced and he ended up paying the lawyers himself.
The exchange makes up part of the legal case Mr Whyte is launching against Mr Green and his group, claiming that they were acting as a "front" for him during the £5.5m deal for the club’s assets last summer.
STV has also obtained a recorded conversation between Mr Green and Mr Whyte, which is said to have taken place on May 9 last year, in which the former Sheffield United chief executive said: "I f*****g, I need money off you (Craig Whyte)" to cover the Field Fisher Waterhouse bill.
On Tuesday, STV contacted Rangers for comment in relation to the recorded conversation, but at the time of publication they had not responded.
The payment is believed to relate to the setting up of the off-the-shelf company, Sevco 5088 Limited, which was the vehicle that Mr Whyte claims he and Mr Green were using to takeover Rangers. Sevco 5088 was identified by administrators Duff and Phelps days later as being the newco that would purchase the club’s assets in the event of the failure of a company voluntary arrangement (CVA).
Mr Green told STV: "My Whyte didn't pay money into my bank account. £25,000 was put into my bank account. For legal costs. And three days later, the cheque bounced."
Mr Green stated that the cheque was from New Malden, the area of Surrey where Mr Earley is based. Mr Green stated it was "to cover the legal expenses that Aiden Earley and Mr Whyte had incurred in starting up the process with Field Fisher Waterhouse, who refused to do any further work without money up front."
Documentation seen by STV suggest that £25,000 was paid out of a business account associated with Mr Earley on May 15, six days after his meeting with Mr Green and Mr Whyte.
In the audio recording of the meeting, Mr Green is heard saying to Mr Whyte: "Well, the next step is, we've got to f*****g give them (Field Fisher Waterhouse) some money."
He is also heard saying that he will tell the legal firm "Oh, Craig's gone, Craig's gone" in relation to the £25,000 payment.
Mr Green adds: "I f*****g, I need money off you [Craig Whyte]." Mr Whyte is heard responding: "Yeah, if you, if you give me your details I'll cover whatever you’ve got to pay out. It's not a problem."
The recording shows that Mr Green responded: "What I'm saying is, there's no f*****g, there'll be no trace into my f*****g bank account. But I'll f*****g, but I'll do it now, I'll write it out now. I'll give them a cheque for £25,000 from me." He adds: "I'm the f*****g director of the company. I'm their client, I'll give them twenty-five grand."
Mr Whyte has instructed a London QC to prepare a writ to be served on the current Rangers regime, claiming they have carried out "unjust enrichment" through "deception". In a letter warning of legal action sent to Rangers, Mr Green and finance director Imran Ahmad last December, Mr Whyte alleges that the group were brought into the Rangers buyout process to act as a "front" for him.
He claims to have evidence that backs up his statements, while last week Mr Green stated in an interview with the Scottish Sun on Sunday that he and Mr Ahmad had told Mr Whyte "what he wanted to hear" because they wanted to "keep him sweet to prise the club away from him".
Mr Green told STV that he has spoken to Rangers’ lawyers and is planning on submitting a report to Police Scotland in relation to the conduct of Mr Whyte, who purchased Sir David Murray’s 85% stake for £1 in May 2011.
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Originally Posted by s.a.m
http://local.stv.tv/glasgow/220791-c...tes-associate/
Link now up. Absolute dynamite stuff.
Charles Green is EXACTLY the sort of person that needs to be running things at The Rangers. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
The stv journo on Scotland today seems to be doing some decent work here
So Charles Green was brought in by Craig Whyte (which I think we all guessed anyway) in order to "grab" the assets on the cheap.Quote:
Originally Posted by FalkirkHibby
CG decided fairly early on that he could shaft CW, and make himself a tidy profit. He has now control over a nice piece of real estate and has pocketed a few million from a "mickey mouse" share issue. He's clearly the sort of person that will be saying one thing to The Rangers supporters whilst wondering how long he can keep his "cash cow" running.
Expect the other "investors" to be slowly shafted over the next year or so and then the whole process to start all over again, before they even manage to reach the SPL. :wink:
It seems it's happening again. This time I think it's going to be far worse for them.
Fit and proper :rolleyes: You do really wonder what the **** the SFA/SPL do.Quote:
Originally Posted by StevieC
This is going to end with poeple going to jail :greengrin
HopefullyQuote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Hopefully !!Quote:
Originally Posted by Onion
:agree: part of the interview hereQuote:
Originally Posted by jodjam
http://sport.stv.tv/football/220759-...owboys-claims/
Mike Farrell@mikefstv18mTicketus wins £17.7m legal action against former Rangers owner Craig Whyte over Ibrox season tickets deal http://bit.ly/XrN5qh
[QUOTE=s.a.m;3560500]Mike Farrell@mikefstv18mTicketus wins £17.7m legal action against former Rangers owner Craig Whyte over Ibrox season tickets deal [URL="http://t.co/9bgxxKePnB"][COLOR=#0084b4]http://bit.ly/XrN5qh[/
Who pays this
:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I'll go first.
If you mean "where does the money get paid from?", in theory it's CW. It was him who was sued.IIRC, CW is potless just now.
He is, of course, suing Green. That might help.
Can he afford to sue him, though?
Naive question here, but are the revelations about Charles Green's acquisition of The Rangers evidence of wrong-doing (legal, rather than moral), that the authorities would have an interest in following up? Or are you allowed to do that?
He can get Legal Aid :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
On your second point, no idea. Thus far, it's just been "he says that to me"/"naw I didny". No evidence, for me, of criminality... just wide-boys fighting in the playground. There may be civil issues, of course, but it's too early to judge whether any criminal law has been broken.
:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Typo funny guy. Meant who pay this?Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Craig pay this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
Hope he's insuredQuote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
See my explanation above.Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
I don't think many insurance companies write policies to cover one for devious duplicity. :cb
I found this post hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Yer easy pleased. I didny. :na na:Quote:
Originally Posted by EuanH78
@Pmacgiollabhain: What would you do if ,as a CEO,thought that your stadium was about to be padlocked by a legal wrangle? #DiscussTheSituationWithaBuddy
You can always tell if Chuckie is telling a lie...........................his lips aremoving.Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
Chuckles comes across shadier than a forest of pine trees.Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
Chuckles was at the St Mirren v Celtic game recently, meeting Stuart Gilmore.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Sevco games being played in Paisley soon?
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Originally Posted by green glory
In an 8,000 capacity stadium?
If they did lose their stadium, I'm sure the SFA would step up to the plate and offer Hampden at a very reasonable rate.
I have to be honest, I was more suspicious about the fact that they met just before St Mirren made their official statement regarding league reconstruction. The statement said all the things most of us wanted to hear but the essence is that their vote is going the way that The Rangers would have wanted. Co-incidence? Possibly, but I now wouldn't discount anything in Scottish Football.
If, for once, the views of the majority of supporters match that of Rangers then there is even more of a chance that the proposals are not rail-roaded through. I think you may be being a bit harsh on Gilmour though, as he has openly (and loudly) stated his views in the past and doesn't really come across as anyone's lap dog. The Killie chairman on the other hand .. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Rangers are only against it because it means another season of playing the same teams they've been playing this year, and I suspect their supporters wouldn't be too keen on signing up another years season ticket money to go through that again.
One of my friends has texted to say that there are sheriff's officers at Ibrox.
Anyone know anything about this, or is it just another Celtic fan on the wind up?
Have they got a big blue padlock?Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
The SFA do not own Hampden. Queens Park do.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
And it continues.....
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/22096954
Are you sure, i thought the SFA took over the running of the ground many years ago?Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
Queens Park own Hampden the SFA just rent office space in the south stand.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Well i never, i was under the impression they sold the ground years ago and the SFA were now running it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyLeith
How do Queens park pay for the upkeep of the place, is it through the income from internationals and cup games?
I would imagine its a mix of rent from the SFA / SPL / SFL (who all have their own individual offices in the south stand) plus money from international games and semi finals & finals ect.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
They will also get a decent wedge everytime a concert takes place at Hampden.
If that were the case would they not have a hefty turnover.Quote:
Originally Posted by SunnyLeith
I thought when it was revamped the SFA took control and the revenues and queens park play there for free.
From http://www.hampdenpark.co.uk/the-ham...n-history.htmlQuote:
Originally Posted by VickMackie
"Queen’s Park, who still own the Stadium, are the only Amateur Club playing in the Scottish Football League and are currently in Division 2."
EDIT - After abit of investigation it appears that although Queens Park still own the stadium (and the 33 acres of land around it) they rent the stadium to the SFA on a 20 year lease.
The raids finished with funny handshakes all round.
Not this time. It's now a major fraud investigation with Chuckles and Whyte in the eye of the storm.Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
Hilarious! :-D
So let me get this right. Whyte and Green plotted the fall and rise of Rangers/Sevco through the Administrators Duff and Duffer who also have a connection to Whyte what they initially denied like Green and Whyte denied their connection until it became obvious that Green wasn't going to give Whyte his share of the spoils and now Whyte is crying about being ripped off?Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Apart from sounding like the intro to an episode of the 70's sitcom Soap, it ****ing stinks!
What a farce of a club.
Regan seeking clarity from Green on Whyte. He may as well seek a sperm sample from pope benedict.