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I think it is a simple question of the past versus the future. I would rather have a future.
I actually meant, refuse to pay (donate) the Yam Fuds packing the bags. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by BH Hibs
... and 'wee team'Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
5-1Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack Hackett
1902
111 years
Wee Team
And that's pretty much everything that HMFC are based around. The focus was always on us, never on themselves.
We Own You!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibercelona
We KILLED you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray-in-ireland
It seems they are asking the SPFL for an advance on next season's TV money. If they can't get to the start of the season without spending all of next season's ticket money, why would the SPFL agree? After all, there is no guarantee that they will complete next season's fixtures.Quote:
Originally Posted by steviehibsleith
Even if they do get to the start of the season, they are going to face severe cash flow problems - they better hope any buyers have got DEEP, DEEP pockets! :greengrin
shameful if true. and Dundee would have every right to think what they have done/are doing stinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryGlory
Forever in our shadow is always a favourite too!Quote:
Originally Posted by robinp
Did the previous board not state they needed 500k to get to the new season? BDO are asking for 800k for the same period. Is the difference their (BDO) fees? Or have they upturned a few more stones with debt hidden underneath?
I bet they were anticipating this and have already spent it! After all, did they not say just before administration that their "business" (sic) plan for next year included an assumption of £1.5M of transfer fees.Quote:
Originally Posted by macca70
Peg selling, aids ridden, caravan dwellersQuote:
Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby
One of my favourite yam sayings along with "we killed use" :faf::faf::faf::faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby
Absolutely brilliant !
:fenlon:jamboclow:brokenyam:
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Originally Posted by Hibby Kay-Yay
It's probably just that the previous board never once came out with a single true statement and/or didn't have a clue and that BDO have actually made the effort of calculating and announcing the real amount.
BDO already said their costs would come from the sale of Tynecastle.
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Originally Posted by EH6 Hibby
Good response to that one is,
" Ghosts don't cast shadows " :aok:
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Originally Posted by greenginger
Some of the Yams claim that 1-5, the victory over Gretna and a CL qualifying tie was worth it. These three achievements were worth the potential cost. All they want is a couple of moments in the spotlight and transient bragging rights. A definition of a wee club mentality if you ask me.Quote:
Originally Posted by spike220
One of Stuart Bathgate's ra-ra-yams pieces in the Scotsman today reveals they had sold 900 STs at close of play last night. They better start banging the drum for a post payday surge next week. From Bryan Jackson's comments at the press conference on Thursday, if they don't sell the 3000 then the next fallback is sell players (at firesale prices). :aok:
Was that the piece where it took two 'journos' to write it ? Didn't seem as upbeat as previous guff/lies.:aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Cannae think why anybody would want tae buy them. Let them go bust and pick any they want up for nowt, not that there's much worth having anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Taking the green tinted specs off, will anybody pay anything for any of their players.
Scottish Clubs, apart from Celtic and Rangers ( transfer ban would apply to any registered player ) nobody is paying money for players. There are hundreds still looking for clubs.
England ? Why would any of their senior players take a wage cut if they could have got a gig down south ?
and the youngsters ? nobody pays money for potential unless it is outstanding and I don't see that being evident at the PBS .
Cant disagree anyone interested will be waiting until they can pick up the players for nowt?Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
So that'sQuote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
500 on Friday,
300 on Saturday,
100 Yesterday.
I think its called charity fatigue ! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Everyone knows time is off the essence so there'll be very few people with a "we'll do it next week" attitude. There'll be no payday rush either, the sort of people that are skint by this stage of the month normally don't have £400 disposable income to shell out from one pay, obviously there'll be a few exceptions to that but not the sort of figures they're needing.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
This weekend will be the big push and good indicator to see if they can make the target. The majority of people will get paid this week 25th, last Friday of the month etc.
Just seen this as well
Jamie Ryan @ChunkyGeek 7m
I think Barry Anderson deleted his tweets to me saying Hearts were self sufficient. Wouldn't be the first time he's done it.
What a dirty barsteward!
To say it over again, there is no way in hell they have sold 900 season tickets, pure myth in order to get any unsure yamboids to get cracking.
Still living in la la land after all these years.
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Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762
There would have been stories of long queues, problems with ticket office etc.
I think we are talking about two separate amounts of money.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
The board needed 500k of personal funding (cash only, used notes) to get the through the summer in Monte Carlo. Once football resumed, they'd be back to organise more bake sales.
The 800k is what will be needed to keep the football club going, over and above funding the directors fees. It's how big crooks operate.
5-1, LRT, it's no fair etc.
Apparently they are still counting the as yet incomplete credit card transactions. They haven't actually received the money for these yet and my understanding is they are unlikely to receive it all before their self imposed 2 week deadline, hence the need for Cash and Cheque only.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Wonder if it's clear to the administrator they're not going to hit the target if he'll just shut the doors early, i'd imagine the first week will give him a fair idea if they're going to be able to generate enough cash or not.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Supposing they are telling the truth about the 900 figure it'd be interesting to know how many of them were full price season tickets and how many were kids or concessions.
Hun friendly not on the cards:
http://www.scotsman.com/sport/footba...o-go-1-2974217
He did say that they would review sales after a week to see how much money was raised, so it's possible if they keep falling they won't get the full 2 weeksQuote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Is there definitely not any online or phone sales? Would explain why they're claiming to have sold this much when the shop has been dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
They have now announced that the 1000 mark has been hit!!!!! Yeah right!
Aye........ this is what I've been thinking.......Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
Good - the more of them that lose their cash in the next few weeks the better.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB1
Also, this is just to last them until the season starts and they are only 1/3 of the way to the total having probably hit the peak of those who would have responded the message.
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Originally Posted by 7062
They released a statement saying they were only accepting cash or cheque payments so that'd require a visit to the shop.Quote:
Originally Posted by gavmac
So not even a debit card payment?Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Sorry, I'm no meaning to grill you about it, just wondering if there's something we're missing!
Nope, not even a debit card payment.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
There was talk of credit cards being accepted before they released the statement so there's a chance some were bought that way, although the fact hearts released that statement there's got to be doubts as to whether they'll get that money in time.
It was still possible to put and order through online on Friday. Judging by Twitter and weallbuttonuptheback a lot of them took this option along with the finance option. Over the weekend the only way to buy them was with cash or cheque, there are no sales online or over the phone currently. All the credit card sales are still on hold and Zebra finance have suspended the credit option.Quote:
Originally Posted by 7062
From the Scotsman article.
"Hearts manager Gary Locke says he has been in touch with a number of clubs regarding a friendly on July 20 adding that he was sure that fans would fill stadium no matter the opposition.
He said: “I touched base with Ally because we want to play a game that would fill the stadium. Mind you, I reckon we could play Bonnyrigg Rose and 14,500 would turn up."
Why are they struggling for season ticket sales if there's a hardcore of 14,500. Not only does Locke like a bit of p**h but he also talks plenty of it aswell.
Crazy. They're no exactly making it as easy as possible for folk to buy them.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
Good!
If, and its a big if, they beg, steal and borrow their way to some sort of survival scenario, would we be satisfied with them being homeless and playing in a lower division, taking many years to climb back to any semblance of what they were ?
And now that they are struggling for their very survival will the deluded over there still refer to them as the "big team" ?
I don't think for a minute they're kidding on. The yams only sold 6000 season tickets pre-admin.*They'll definitely sell the other 3k tickets.Quote:
Originally Posted by KB1
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Originally Posted by 7062
I'm not convinced, especially now they don't have the option of credit card facilities or payment plans. I also think a lot of them have given up and just want the inevitable to hurry up and happen so they can start again in whatever form.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
Yam I know took great delight in informing people he paid £1800 on 6 season tickets which he paid for on his credit card. He then went on to advise fellow thick yams to do the same, think this was Friday.
Love the fact that his payment has probably been suspended :na na:
Popped my heid into the Yams ticket office 15 minutes ago (11:15am). Car park busy but artificially so, satellite van taking up about 15 spaces as they were doing an interview there. Looked like Charles Paterson from SKY interviewing a Danny Wilson lookalike. Checked their website and narrowed it down to three, McHattie seems the current go to guy at the minute.
Anyhoo there was about eight in the queue, a couple were carrying hangers so i take it tickets and retail operate from the same line. Another four browsing could be buying anything, old couple looking at the token gifts, mugs(!) and pens. Actually felt a bit sorry for them looked like the types that are affronted at the shenanigans and just seemed to want to do their bit however small. Auld chap wearing his Yam jacket wi' pride.
Wasn't going in deep cover, so can't report on the Garden Gnomes! Must be potential for a paint job there.
Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_87m
#Hearts administrator Bryan Jackson calls on interested parties to submit an offer for the club ASAP. See today's EN. #HMFC
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Other than getting a Wonga loan, how many people can shell out £300 - £400 in a month on a season ticket. Yams I have spoken to have the choice of buying a season ticket or going on holiday and most are telling me that they can't justify putting anymore money into the club.Quote:
Originally Posted by matty_f
Will be difficult when 79% of Hearts shares are frozen with all other UBIG assets.Quote:
Originally Posted by bingo70
There's more.......Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
Barry Anderson @BarryAnderson_89m
UK-based group (involving Gordon McKie & Stephen Paterson) have put their offer for #Hearts to administrators BDO. Story in today's EN #HMFC
Barry Anderson claiming hearts have had a bid put forward to their administrator. Shame he can't sell them.
They'll sell 3000 no problem imho. All it's doing is getting them all aboard a carpet that is about to whipped from beneath them.
Why would clubs, who have been impacted by Hearts cheating, want to help them out because of their cheating?
Sounds ridiculous.
It would be like Lance Armstrong (1-5, by the way) asking his previous cycling community cyclists to chip in to get him back on the circuit.
If there's a chance of a sale then the Administrator can ask for the assets to be unfrozen. Doesn't mean it'll happen but there is a slight possibility. He probably won't ask until he's done all the rest as they'll likely only get one shot at it.Quote:
Originally Posted by green glory
I was in the shop as well this morning ( about 11.05 am, us Hibbies are making their place busy ! ) Two or three looking like they were going to buy tickets of some description.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
The shop is a pretty scruffy dump compared to ours, makes TK Max look like Harrods. :greengrin
In the extremely unlikely event that the valiant efforts of these hoards of valiant and loyal Jambos, stampeding in their thousands to the club's rescue in its hour of need, fail to hit the target - what happens to the season and match ticket cash handed over, if they fold and don't actually play any games? Does it get tossed into the black hole to contribute to the creditor compensation, or do they get it back?
With the offers that they are likely to make I don't think Jackson will even make the phone call to Lithuania.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
They'll be creditors of the club and will get 0p in the £.Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
I see the administrator is begging interested parties to come forward with bids for the club asap. Maybe time before they have to move to liquidate the club is shorter than he is suggesting.
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Originally Posted by s.a.m
There will be nothing to hand back even if they wanted to.
The cash is going out the door as soon as it comes in !
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Originally Posted by GloryGlory
I should have thought of that. You'd have to be daft, really, wouldn't you?:jamboclowQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Indeed with the value of Tynecastle dubious, I suspect BDO will do their best to safeguard their fee and move to liquidation sooner rather than later if the cash is not coming in.Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryGlory
Selling a few (Under-12) £50 season cards will not bring that much in.
Straight into John Suttons pocket :) Bit off just quoting him in the EN story as there will be others who will not half their CONTRACTED wage. Hound him out, turn on our players, it's the Hearts way.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
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Originally Posted by Treadstone
Why is the administrator making a plea for bids if they have lots of credible ones? The media has no consensus.
They're queuing 9 to 5Quote:
Originally Posted by s.a.m
what a way to make you livid
queuing 9 to 5
its all takin
and no givin
They just confuse your mind
And they never give you credit
Its enough to drive you
Crazy if you let it
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Originally Posted by ManBearPig
But, but, but look what the nice Hibbies on Pie & Bovril made...
http://i976.photobucket.com/albums/a...34oagebjpg.gif
(Not my own work (not sinking to their level), but it has been getting sent to a lot of my Yam acquaintances of late. It's fun to twist their nonsense and throw it back at them :greengrin)
Radio Forth reporting they sold 1000 over the weekend.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Probably because McKie's ***** Knights have more conditions than pounds attached to their bid and the Foundation of Muppetry have no conditions but no pounds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
Any word from your SPL contacts on whether there's any chance they'll worm out of a long transfer embargo?
Bought my lunch there today. Not cheap but quality food. In fact, Hibs Class.Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
That'll be from the statement on their site that they've reached 1000 total. I was working off Stuart Bathgates figures.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
Now it's
500 on Friday
300 on Saturday
200 on Sunday.
:top marksWell Played.
http://i40.tinypic.com/8vnh4x.jpg
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
They reckon everything will be fine.They're like we are hearts,we wont be liquidated.
Whats going to happen when they do get liquidated?
They'll be clueless.
Then you'll get two are three of their different faction setting up (what they claim to be) the REAL new hearts.
hearts of lothian playing at Saughton enclosure
The heart of midlothian playing at the Gyle park and
FC hearts playing at Roseburn park
Which one to pick?
Another dilemma for ex jambos
What happens if they only sell, say 2,800?
Calling them "ex jambos" implies their condition is treatable.....Quote:
Originally Posted by Greendrongo
They could form their own Yam League thus ensuring that they are always the 'big' team in one form or another.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greendrongo
Why stop at a League? They could create their own states - perhaps one could be Yamland, another called Yamnation. If they fall out and go to war the victors would be able to erect a new war memorial.Quote:
Originally Posted by Seveno
I am less than convinced these figures are genuine, sounds like the media outlets being fed good news to try and start a rush for them IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by silverhibee
personally I think the figures are genuine in fact I think they will sell well in excess of the 3k. But doing this causes them major problems if they survive, it means that not only have they spent their entire st sales before the start of the season, but these 3k plus new st sales are probably usually walk ups and therefore they won't have them as a source of income for during the season.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
it means that any new owners will need to find a good few million to buy the club, then bank roll the club during the season then throughout the next close season to stop them spending st money early. Any new owners need to have a lot of spare cash!
Same if they sell 3,200 - their goose is cooked.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Let us not forget that the 3,000 is a begging number merely to get them to the start of the season, and that money will be gone, then they have the usual expenses of running a club. Ok, they will income in the shape of gate receipts and SPL money, but will that be anywhere near enough to see them through the season?Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
I have my doubts on that one.
I agree I also think a figure was put out to give an idea to any prospective bidders the sort of short term money that is required. Flush them out or in the Yams case, flush them away. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by MB62
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Originally Posted by HFCDaveA
Agree entirely I hope they sell 10,000 tickets and that they stay in administration as long as possible.
During their stay in administration I hope there are innumerate further begging bowls passed round.
By the end of a season in which they have been pumped umpteen times both financially and in the park they will be so fed up they will stop rallying to the call and will at least do one thing with dignity - die.
Girfuy ya bunch of roasters.
I would have thought so as well but since the call to arms they haven't exactly been selling like hotcakes considering the circumstances. I guessed there would be the initial rush and then the dribs and drabs would come in but where are the other 2000 sales coming from. Are people waiting for payday? School holiays are upon us at the end of the week and not everyone has enough disposible income to just find £400 from nowhere unless they take cash out via their CC but that is very expensive. I'm sure a few of them need the cash for holidays etc. At least they don't have to fork out for a European trip....:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by HFCDaveA
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Originally Posted by HFCDaveA
I think a lot of you guys are forgetting the brokeback money.
£23k buys lot of paint.
That is the crux of the problem :thumbsup::agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by HFCDaveA
With the season ticket money having been spent when the season starts they will have to depend on " walk up fans " to give them working capital and maintain some sort of cash flow.
That is unless the new buyers intend pumping millions into the club ala Romanov :greengrin
Well said :aok:Quote:
Originally Posted by BSEJVT
Talk on Brokeback of selling t-shirts to raise cash. The proposed designs show the mentality they have of "5-1 wiz wurth it big teme 1902" as opposed to maybe something along the lines of Hands off Hibs eg "Save oor Hertz".
I wouldn't mind them surviving because I enjoy the derby, but this sort of thing just makes me love seeing them squirm. GIRFUY.
This post has to get a shout out though,
As they so love to say, "still hurting."Quote:
Think it might be better still if it was every eight seconds, I'm not keen on the number seven in a derby context
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I reckon they'll sell around 2200-2500 and hail it as a sterling and monumental effort. Bit like the successful share issue/fraud which raised just over half its intended target and they are all patting themselves on the back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
Foundation of hearts begging statement on official h****s website.
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...241384_3218901
The foh go on about BDO setting a funding target and the foh say that they support this.
YO DONUTS.YOU HAVE NO CHOICE.
How long is it they can't sign players? (They are going to survive this so I'm hoping Hibs get in some good victories against them before some other madmen take them over).
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...73546#continueQuote:
Originally Posted by VivaHibs
:jamboak:
I suspect any potential new owners, unless they are totally minted, would be grateful for a transfer embargo as they need to stabilise the ship financially. With all the ST money gone, and having to exist on walk ups and cake sales they would be under extreme pressure if they could sign players which may derail the project before it gets going. Unless they are loaded of course, like Vlad, then it wouldn't be a problem and they could also owe it to themselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Interesting. The first part of this statement reads like they are buttering up their pledgers to divert funds into keeping the club going over the summer.Quote:
Originally Posted by #FromTheCapital
But then they say that FoH is about buying the club.
I tell you what is interesting about this. If the BDO have a likely buyer they would unlikely to be giving FOH support through the Hearts website. They clearly want to give them a decent shot at it...but 3000 converted pledges will be way short of anything they need to acquire the club...Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven