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Thought he was offside.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Inter have gave one of the poorest displays in Champs League final that I can remember. Been good defensively but almost zero quality going forward.
Had £20 on city minus 1 and Gundogan to score anytime 19/4 . Think we're both snookered .Quote:
Originally Posted by Bostonhibby
They're up against a team that's spent billions putting together, was always going to be a hard taskQuote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Sauzee
It's the hope that skills you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
A Hibs thing [emoji23]
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dreadful corner
How did Lukaku miss that???
if only inter had tried to get over half way line before last 10....
Typical Lukaku
Football is finished. Been a finance game for ages but this is now proof you can take over any team and then pump billions in the club and win anything and everything.
The sport is completely pointless. Golf going same way - no integrity in the sports.
Man City ruining football. Confirmed.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
no VAR tonight
Yes bet came in Ederson 4 plus saves and a yellow card 14/1
my heartfelt congratulations to the Middle East in winning another cup
History will remember City won it but there was nothing to remember about the game. Borefest.
Will be tasty if City play Newcastle in next years final. The game’s a bogey nowQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Appallingly poor game but best team in tournament won in the end which does not always happen
That was awful. Inter were dreadful.
Well done to City, European champions and a treble. That's the culmination of everything Sheikh Mansoor has wanted since he arrived in 2009. It's cost a fortune, but they have made some journey.
I’m Absolute snore fest
And the commentary makes you resent it even more. Like watching an England game. Can’t stand England and English football
**** game. West Ham winning other night felt like proper football, City winning tonight just feels wrong.
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"the greatest story in football club history"
Oh do **** off.
The whole game can be summed up by Onana throwing the ball out to a defender with 2 City players bearing down on him 4 minutes and 30 seconds into 5 minutes of stoppage time.
All night Inter played themselves into trouble from the back.
Better with Ross County v ThistleQuote:
Originally Posted by NC1875
Hope Haaland goes on a week long session now
Hopefully City and there practices get found out down the line
One of the least memorable Champs Leagues finals, and other than City fans, does anyone really care?
Meh, is about as strong a reaction as I can muster.
The commentary team especially near the end made me feel sick.
Lescott isn’t even a city fan. Plastic club plastic fans.
Amazing what a few billion pounds does, Roy of the rovers stuff
Is it weird to say I quite like Grealish?
I wish I understood why the Middle East is burning through money by pumping it into football clubs.
Understand the toy aspect but are they building clubs to take advantage of the Sky money once oil dries up?
Don't understand the point. Sheikh Mansour barely attends games. Clearly doesn't care about the club even though ridiculous money being spent.
Comes across as a means of distracting common people from the ridiculous inequality in the world now. Pretty much the same as what's happening in politics at the moment - mini scandals or distractions from the bigger issues in the world.
**** final won by a truly horrible club, commentated on by idiots.
Newcastle could well be the next English team to do it. They are going to spend like City and are equally ambitious.
Sports washing mate. The more influence these Countries have it means people will be scared/ won’t speak about about the atrocities they’ve committed.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
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Usually I watch these post match celebrations after a major final and, even as a neutral, get caught up in the emotion of the occasion. Not with this one, I’m totally detached.
Sportswashing. The clubs act as a vehicle for the govs running the clubs to bombard people with advertisements and marketing tricks to try and improve they’re reputation.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
Used so that people think that their regime isn't as despicable as it actually isQuote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
AbsolutelyQuote:
Originally Posted by Keyser Sauzee
Fair play to Man City, there will be genuine Man City fans who have followed them through the bad times, just like Chelsea and Abramovich etc. Obviously there will also be the glory hunters, it happens.
Such a shame how many people get bought out of their integrity though.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGray
All these commentators sounding as if City have grown through their own means and fought against Goliath.
Then what's happened in golf as well. Absolutely no integrity whatsoever.
Everyone taking backhanders and then the customers still get ripped off by Sky, BT and whoever.
This will collapse. The greed in the world is already causing huge problems but this is going to escalate. World is mental.
Could not agree moreQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
Money talk’s unfortunately. They now control golf all thanks to money and it won’t be long until they control most sports and other institutions. There influence is quite scary.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
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I'm a bit torn on the whole thing.
There will be City fans there tonight who were attending games at Maine Road in the 3rd tier and would never have dreamed then they would see a night like this. City had their low point at about the same time their city rivals were bagging trebles of their own so there will be an enjoyment out of that too. I never really see City fans as plastics albeit there will be a tourist bandwagon that has developed over the last few years. When a club is taken over and success follows there aren't many fanbases that ask too many questions as a collective, I daresay Hibs would be no different if we were suddenly turning over Rangers and Celtic and playing Barcelona on a Wednesday night.
You can't just overlook the sportwashing though and when you remove that emotion that comes with actually being a fan then City are now a club it is very easy to dislike. Like others as soon as the FT whistle went I turned off.
Certainly not fashionableQuote:
Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
Really no idea why he gets so much hatred - I quite like him too
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Well, I originally was keen for some link with Man City as we might be able to get some decent youngsters on loan or they might be able to help with our scouting etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenGray
Now, I'd rather we just avoided them. Hibs will lose their identity if they become in any way linked to the City group. I only want Hibs to have links to genuine clubs which probably means foreign clubs. England's top divisions have too many dodgy owners now.
Stay well clear Hibs.
Completely agree, wouldn’t want to sell our soul for no guaranteed success.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
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Not really, he does have a beautiful ass 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by SaulGoodman
Glad for Gundogan and De Bruyne who have been exceptional this season and deserve it .
Let's just say, for arguements sake, the supposed City Group takeover happened and Hibs found themselves in the Conference League Final. We'd all be there and we'd all be celebrating the win, don't for a single second think we wouldn't. We all want our team to win at ALL costs. For 99.9% of us, morals go out the windows. It would happen with all fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
I read Noel Gallagher belittling Porto's win in 2004 the other day, saying they're not "elite". What a fanny he is.
That Oasis back together again then?
Of course the money involved is vulgar, but they are a great side with a great manager. A treble is a brilliant achievement, very difficult to do. They play the game the right way and they are the best in the world right now. The elite level is money driven now, sadly.
Don't think I would. It would feel so hollow.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
Sport is pointless if success is bought. It's been bad for ages but recently it is becoming a joke, especially in England.
It is not a game for the common person anymore. It's a toy used by rich consortiums to distract the common person from the important world issues.
When you think that stadium hosted an epic final between a Milan team and a Lancashire team...this was the polar opposite.
But the fairytale story of the plucky underdogs, the romantic people's champions...well it definitely wisnae tonight.
LanceArmstrongFC finally prevailing is not the stuff of dreams.
And how 'elite' were Man City in 2004? They were the butt of many jokes when Porto were winning the Champions League.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
**** City
Porto have still won that trophy more often than Man City. In fact it’s 4-2 in overall European trophies.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
on a side note it’s ridiculous how often they wheel him or his brother out every other week like some sort of oracles to talk about their doped up little Middle Eastern project club
The only positive from today if that happensQuote:
Originally Posted by greenlex
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Haaland is a robot 🤖
Haaland was pretty rotten tonight imoQuote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
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Would happily pay a ridiculous amount of money to see them live mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC
I’ll pay a tenner more. It’s my ****in ticket.Quote:
Originally Posted by SteveHFC
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True, but while it doesn’t happen, which it won’t. I can fling mud at them and keep my morals.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
J
Shot on targetQuote:
Originally Posted by ErinGoBraghHFC
Free money 💰
Didn’t Celtic achieve a quadruple in 1967 then? Not seeing any mention of it when they talk about Man City’s “historic” achievement 🙄Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Now that was a genuinely entertaining game of football. Cracking’ stuff.Quote:
Originally Posted by DIXIHIBS
I appreciate your honestly, but ultimately most football fans want their team to win things.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
My daughter lives in Newcastle. Her boyfriend and parents are huge Newcastle fans and have been all their lives. Owned by Saudis? I think they look at that as being a bonus compared to Mike Ashley. A successful Hibs team would change people's opinion on whoever owned the club.
I don't mind loaning players in using the City Group connections though that's were it stops for me . I think it would be a very sad day if our club with its history became another wee reserve club for City like the other 13 or 14 they own . City Group can F*** off on that .Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
Well said mate.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
no doubt some would lap it up. I certainly wouldn’t.
What a weirdly subdued celebration.
Thought that myself. Quite odd.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since452
Even if it meant our club won Premier League titles or competed in Europe? It would be the only possible way we could do that. You wouldn't want Hibs to be able to do this?Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Think he only won one header and that was a defensive oneQuote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Hope he plays like that against Scotland.
Sadly this dynamic is exactly why filthy rich people get to ruin the lives of the common people.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
Give them a small carrot. A carrot that comes with a cost no less. Newcastle ST price will probably go up as the club sign better players. Sky and BT subs will go up.
It is a sad state of affairs to be honest. Wish common people could unite and have some involvement in matters that truly affect their lives rather than just being distracted by the niceties the wealthy decide we can have (and charge us a premium for us to have them).
It is no surprise that a lot of this stuff has started to happen when we have a worldwide issue with inequality. Nothing much has changed tbh, it's like having gladiators in a colosseum. Distract people as you covertly (in this case overtly) make their lives worse.
Im not saying its right. But I think a lot of people's morals would change after time, they will have done so already with many Man City, Chelsea, Newcastle fans, dont think they wouldnt with Hibs fans. Me? I'm honest enough to say I'd support a successful Hibs team regardless of who owned or bankrolled them.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
In my opinion it wouldn't be Hibs anymore if success were to come artificially.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
The stadium would be filled with glory hunters. They'd leave as soon as the success was over and done with.
All notions of being a community club would be over. Regardless of what the billionaire owners do in the local area to show they are "charitable".
It wouldn't just be morally wrong. It would have serious adverse affects to the whole league.
The success will lead to increased ST demand, higher ST prices as a consequence and loyal fans that suffered the bad times may be priced out of going to the games.
Success would be nice but it would come with so many problems. If you are happy to ignore those then fair enough.
Man City's success is like any success The Rangers have. It doesn't matter, they really are a club of very little history and heritage. It's not the same club.
Couldn't care less about premier League titles or competing in Europe if it means becoming a wee feeder club for some English club with rich owners tbh . We have a great history and our own identity and the last thing I want to see is Hibs playing in blue and ' blue moon ' getting belted out at ER instead of SOL , wouldn't be Hibs anymore .Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
I notice a lot on here are for it though where's it all going to end ? If city group did takes us over , what happens if Newcastle's owners take over hertz , Man U could be taking over by Arabs too and maybe they will buy Aberdeen then . You have basically got English reserve clubs playing in Scotland all own by owners that don't have a real bound with there clubs . Totally 100% against any takeover by the City Group now or in the future.
I’d pay extra for a season ticket if we won the champions league, surely that goes without sayingQuote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
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Nobody's talking about Hibs playing in a different colour or changing our theme. I don't think you've noticed that the only difference between Man City now compared to 20 years ago is they've went from being a laughing stock of English football to being European footballs best team, they still play in the same colours and to the same tune as they always have done.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Hibs inspire to being the best we can be. You don't want to be Premier league champions or in Europe. **** me, do you support Hibs or FC Edinburgh. 😄
Yeah, might sound mad but going miles clear at the top of the Premiership will mean **** all if we're doing it with players on stratospheric wages paid for by endless blood money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
Even going 5-0 up on Hearts will be boring as ****. Easter Road megadome full of tourists and formerly-OF glory hunters politely applauding and taking selfies. I'll go watch Dunfermline thanks.
AgreeQuote:
Originally Posted by Cat Stanton
When you strip away the club names and look at ownership when does it get to the stage where it is just Middle East 1 vs Middle East 2? Or American 1 vs American 2?
Also, if it doesn't become the above vs scenario when does it get to the point where English clubs are champions of Europe every year without any reasonable competition (not far from that now) and then how long until Europe just becomes a play thing for the same 4-6 English clubs?
I don't think people realise that if this doesn't get reined in there won't be European competition for Hibs. Even if one competition survives what is likely coming then it'll likely be a token one with very little monetary reward or any respect.
More of these owners = we only want to play each other. We already have that here with the OF and the TV deal. We have a whole football structure here that only cares about 2 clubs and people welcome a football setup more devoid of morality as long as its Hibs...
People are willing the downfall of the sport and they don't realise it.
Something similar to European Super League will come again. Only certain teams will play in it and the game will be ruined.
Might be more entertaining for a neutral but the game will be done.
I'm sure it was said that some of the other clubs they bought have introduced sky blue kits . Newcastle have a Saudi away kit colours this year too. If the City Group buys us they can do whatever the F the want with us and that's a worry.Quote:
Originally Posted by AFKA5814_Hibs
Man City were taken over as the TOP TEAM , THE MAIN PRIORITY and the other over a dozen clubs they've bought aren't on the same scale of importance and imo are just bought as accessories for the big one .
I don't want the premier league title if it means selling our club to a bunch of untrustworthy Arabs who I don't think have any love or fondness for our club and would certainly not make us there number 1 priority . Btw we are in Europe incase you forgot. I support a club called Hibs owned by the GORDON'S 💚 and not some English feeder club owned by a bunch of dubious Arabs thanks 👍
Superb post.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
It's already here. The "champions league" is dull. Its the same clubs every year and it's boring.
I'm on record with saying scottish football is bent. Well, it is, but all football is bent. I'm quick becoming lost to the game. I just don't like it anymore.
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Gutted that Inter couldn't do it tonight. Man City & West Ham now overtake Arsenal for European trophies won. Still can't believe that pathetic excuse of a club were celebrating their rivals winning a football match in February. Bottle jobs.
About 10 years ago imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
Nowadays I have very little interest in football other than Hibs and even then I’ve found my interest waning. My interest now mainly stems from automatically going to Hibs.net whenever I pick up my phone.
It’s primarily a stage of life / other priorities thing but I’ve subconsciously been viewing games as decapitators vs petrodollars vs American speculators etc for a while. The “soul” left the building long ago.
Arabs = "untrustworthy", "dubious".Quote:
Originally Posted by Donegal Hibby
American family who we know little about, with a less than impressive first couple of years stewardship 💚
Interesting.
We certainly didn't know much about the American family that took us over and there has been mistake's made though during there reign they have shown they have Hibs best interests at heart . Since our chairman has sadly passed away we have got to know more about them and they seem a decent family who's main focus is on improving our football club.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nakedmanoncrack
As to Arabs being untrustworthy and dubious I'm referring to Man city owners . Why when you own the best and one of the biggest clubs in the world do you need to buy another dozen football clubs and by the looks of it want to buy even more . What are the City Groups Reason's and plans for these clubs ? . Sincerely hope we are never one that they buy has I don't think they'd have any real bound with the club or it's fans the way the Gordon's have . Under the ownership of the city group we'd just a number in a long line of football clubs they own already imo .
Pretty sure things such, as destroying the game and such were said many,many years ago when sport went from amateur to professional, change is enevitable the only way to survive, is to embrace it.Quote:
Originally Posted by madhatter
If Citee group want to pump plenty money into Hibs to see us enter Europe every year then I am all for that, been watching our underperforming side for 60 years or so, good times and more bad times, I know which I prefer.
:greengrin
They also have 115 outstanding charges against them. It's not just change, it's cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by A Hi-Bee
:faf:like Sevco and Smellic have been doing in Scotland for however many years? Change it from Citee group to any other group that wants to pump cash into the Hibees to enable us to perform at a higher level in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baader
:greengrin
Within or outwith the rules? Or should we just go full on Jambos mode, rip a load of folk off and hopefully win a bit more?Quote:
Originally Posted by A Hi-Bee
No place did I mention doing anything outwith the rules of the game, but it is a fine line when the rules of the game are bent as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Baader
**** the herts
:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin:greengrin :greengrin:greengrin
Serie A Play Off Match
Spezia v Verona
7.45 pm Neutral Venue
BT Sport
Josh Doig on the bench
1-0 Verona
Spezia 0 v 1 Verona
Faraoni
Could get tasty
1-1, 2 deflections then in off the bar.
England 0 WXI 1 (Bolt)
2-1 Verona
3-1