This Ian Murray is impressive. Hasn't directly answered a question for 40 minutes, takes some doing on a webchat.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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This Ian Murray is impressive. Hasn't directly answered a question for 40 minutes, takes some doing on a webchat.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
Second nature for a politician.Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
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Originally Posted by kdhibees1
They have no idea how to turn this into a funded bid. Think we can forget about them as a bidder.
Not next season. The money from 6000 season tickets has already been spent. If any form of Hearts is around next season that money isn't going to be available and a lot of the people who bought those tickets will be unwilling or unable to fork out again. The player budget will be very low.Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
Add the costs required to overcome the neglect of the ground and the financial problems facing anyone taking over are considerable. If they survive at all it'll be a long time till they'll have the money to be back near the top.
Seen the word 'loan' offered as part of a possible bid. What planet is he on ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andy74
It going to be tough explaining to the next generation of Hibs fans what Hearts were.
Second nature? You mean a prerequisite.:greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
this :)Quote:
Originally Posted by jemesouviens
Bit harsh I think!! :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Shrekko
....I envisage flushing the toilet could be used as an ilustrative tool....Quote:
Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pi4PqihpK3Y :flag:
I've been singing this to myself for some reason today.
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Originally Posted by Dashing Bob S
bag of wind, big talker, big-timer, bigmouth, blatherskite, blowhard, blusterer, boaster, brag, braggadocio, bragger, egotist, exhibitionist, gasbag, gascon, grandstander, hotshot, know-it-all, peacock, ranter, raver, show-off, strutter, swaggerer, swashbuckler, swelled head, trumpeter, windbag
Just heard Leslie Deans on Forth One news say that the 15 point deduction isn't guaranteed, as the new rules haven't been finalised yet.
They can keep thinking that, can you imagine the uproar if Hearts are let away with 0 points deduction from every other club that has went in to admin, sure the rules are not set in stone yet but they are not going to get around a points deduction. They were lucky to avoid it at the end of the season and have clearly manipulated £££ and people to achieve this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
too be quite honest, that should be the least of their worries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
It would be nice if the new rules, when set in stone, decided that a 15 point deduction was too lenient, and slapped 30 on the creeps.Quote:
Originally Posted by SlickShoes
The thing that really makes me laugh about last nights circus with the biggest clown McPherson going on about hearts being the 3rd biggest club, and an institution. :faf: Was he cant get it into his head their over spending and fraudulent actions over the last 30 years has given them these bigger crowds and little bits off success.
What a ****ing fandango that man is, perhaps if we'd have done the same he'd still be saying it, but it wouldn't make it right. :rolleyes:
Time for Scottish Football to bring in tougher penalties then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Since the war Hibs have been historically the better supported club. If we'd had invested the same amount as them as them in the last 30 years, we'd be looking for bigger crowds than they had. (I won't say more SC wins, as that curse has nothing to do with the Yams, as much as they'd like to gatecrash it.)Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Total keek, it's rule A6.8 of the SPL rules ratified on 3 Dec last year. What he's probably clinging to technically, aka lying, is that the new structure of Scottish football has not been formally ratified yet. Anyone who thinks SPL rules will not be implemented is incredibly naive, hello Danny boy!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
If they are still alive by August they'll be starting on -15. Of that I am certain.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Under the SFL Livingston were demoted to division 3 on the basis that they were unlikely to fulfill all of their fixtures in the first division, Given that hearts haven't started a season yet and are going into admin under a new single league body who administers all levels of the league system a 15 point deduction and remaining the SPL is probably best case scenario. what a weltQuote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
No chance would they get off scot free, Rangers would go nuts if that happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
Deans is another clown who introduced Vlad maybe he and the drunken Lord should be a little more reticent with their comments at this time.
At least the new strips are still on their way!!
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...41384_3213128?
The Yams must have the web admin equivalent of the orchestra on the Titanic. Keep going son!
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New kit delayed
18.06.2013
Hearts would like to advise supporters there will be a short delay in the delivery of the new home kit.
The kits for season 2013-14 were due to arrive tomorrow but according to official supplier adidas, a delay in the Far East has meant the shipment is now expected to arrive in the UK next week with delivery to the club a few days later.
For those supporters who have pre-ordered the new strip, it is hoped to have them posted out on Monday, July 1.
Apologising for the unexpected delay, a Hearts spokesperson said: "We have only just been advised by adidas that there is going to be a delay in the delivery of the new kit and would like to apologise to those fans who were eagerly anticipating the arrival of the kits this week.
"It is very unfortunate and totally outwith our control. In the circumstances it is understandable people may put two and two together and assume it is a result of recent developments but we can assure everyone it is not.
"We have been told by adidas that there has been a delay in the container ship leaving port and that will obviously have a knock-on effect on delivery times."
Further details will be announced in due course.
The gift that keeps on giving. What a shambolic club!!Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
Hearts would like to advise supporters there will be a short delay in the delivery of the new home kit.
The kits for season 2013-14 were due to arrive tomorrow but according to official supplier adidas, a delay in the Far East has meant the shipment is now expected to arrive in the UK next week with delivery to the club a few days later.
and still the lying goes on, they just cant help themselves. :rolleyes:
This just snaffled from werenoinadminyet.co.uk
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I'm beginning to wonder if Southern called them in but the directors won't sign off on it. :o
EDIT: I just received a message indicating this is a very strong possibility. This is worrying.
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Originally Posted by MyJo
I wasn't giving what he said any credence, and it did sound very desperate.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
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This just snaffled from werenoinadminyet.co.uk
What does that mean then? #dumbQuote:
I'm beginning to wonder if Southern called them in but the directors won't sign off on it. :o
EDIT: I just received a message indicating this is a very strong possibility. This is worrying.
Deans = straw-clutcher !!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
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Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
So delivery was due tomorrow and they're saying that they only just found out that the container ship has yet to leave the far East? Yeah right! - I'm sure Adidas do that to people all the time. :whistle:
That is brilliant news.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeesdude
If they don't go into Administration I expect that HMRC will go full speed for winding up the club.
My source at the SPL tells me this is utter nonsense. The deduction works out as the same in both sets of rules as they are very similar when it comes to Admin etc. If the new rules aren't ratified in time then we would simply revert back to the previous set. So basicallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Stevie Reid
A) Hearts will be deducted -15 under the old rules
or
B) Hearts will be deducted -15 under the new rules.
As it stands, there is no option C)
Every other Adidas kit seems to have arrived on time.
This is very interesting news. Imagine if they have bumped Adidas:faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by Meh
Or Adidas have pulled the plug :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by kdhibees1
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
If they're desucted -15 ... are you saying they start the season on +15???? ffs!!!!
No idea but seems to have a few rings twitching.Quote:
Originally Posted by McPhisto2
The story appears to be Southern mooted the admin but directors won't sign off on it.
Papers apparently not lodged with court yet
OH this just keeps getting better..Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeesdude
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Surely from the yams point of view, admin is the only thing that can save them? If they don't go into admin they're done for?Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeesdude
Someone's lying.Quote:
Notice of intention to appoint administrator
17.06.2013
Heart of Midlothian plc can today confirm that it has served a notice of intention to appoint an administrator.
The notice was served at the Court of Session in Edinburgh this afternoon.
How many of their directors are Lithuanian? If any are still there that is..
Just wondering if that could have any bearing on a reluctance to sign this off..
Maybe a Notice of Intention is a separate thing to submitting the papers? I dont know but might be first part of the process.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
They only have 3 directors.Quote:
Originally Posted by RossHibs
They are all Lithuanian
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
Cheers. :aok:
I import stuff into the UK all the time, when you order goods and pack them in a container, you get a bill of lading connected to that container, you can then track that container as it travels the world (and believe me they do). IF there has been a delay, you can tell exactly what day it is due into port by checking your shipping lines website (a bit like courier tracking, just on a bigger scale).Quote:
Originally Posted by Peevemor
This leads me to believe this statement is total BS, adidas have pulled the plug or want cash up front before releasing the goods, either way I can't see the punters getting their preordered strips ever :agree:
Actually only one is Lithuanian. The idiot son and Fedotovas are Russian Nationals according to their directorship details lodged with Companies House.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
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Originally Posted by Bajillions
I though Romanov the Junior was born in lithuania? Could be wrong it was just a memory thing.Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
pft everyone knows the best way to travel by sea is :lurksub:Quote:
Originally Posted by CyberSauzee
Could come in handy if they need to do a runner...Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
I wouldn't be surprised if that's already happened.Quote:
Originally Posted by Part/Time Supporter
Attachment 10331http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/javaImages...~457809,00.jpghttp://www.heartsfc.co.uk/javaImages...6073275,00.jpgQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
Wonderful men.:aok:
http://img268.imageshack.us/edit_pre...&action=rotateQuote:
Originally Posted by vince1973
Who's the other one here?Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
:thumbsup::wink: you know the score lolQuote:
Originally Posted by kdhibees1
Sorry if this has been mentioned elsewhere but it's easier for him to dodge questions about him not doing his job as an MP in the context of a web chat about his "hobby".Quote:
Originally Posted by PapillonVert
Maybe we should start asking him questions in the context of his job as an MP?
You can write to him about this (or anything else that takes your fancy especially stuff that may fall within his purview as Shadow Minister for Business, Innovation and Skills) at:
http://www.writetothem.com/write?who=46877&pc=EH9+2BT
Or via his parliamentary email [email protected]
It would be a real shame if his office became so busy that his free time to involve himself with desperately trying to un-flush a turd were to be compromised.......
Maybe they've been diverted to Chechnya and Vlad is hawking them out the back of his taxi?Quote:
Originally Posted by vince1973
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Originally Posted by vince1973
Posted Today, 01:06I am in no way arrogant about my club.
Hearts is, undeniably, a massive club in Scottish football. A massive club, with over a hundred jobs on the line, thousands of fans worries sick that this massive club could stop existing at any time.
Will somebody please send a mail to Adidas and attach this..... How dare the yam strips be late... yamtoids are in seige mentality at Tincastle to purchase a piece of..... History... :devil:
Vitalijus VasiliauskasQuote:
Originally Posted by jacomoseven
Non-executive Director
Vitalijus Vasiliauskas was appointed to the Board in March 2009. His position incorporates the role of project manager for infrastructure and development at the club and he is responsible for the Tynecastle Stadium redevelopment as well as overlooking certain commercial aspects of the club.
Based full-time in Edinburgh at the UK headquarters of UBIG where he is Projects Manager, Vitalijus has significant experience in a variety of commercial and development fields.
He was previously director general at SEVEN entertainment, the biggest entertainment group in the Baltics and held similar positions in arenas, water parks and ticketing systems in Lithuania.
He gained a degree in engineering and construction at Gediminas Technical University in Vilnius before going on to obtain an MBA at Vilnius University International Business School in 2006.
I`m at a loss to work out what he`s done to earn a wage there then???Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
Responsible for Tynecastle re-development.... :faf:
Bad news for Hearts if true, as the procrastinating might well be on orders from the Liths to buy them more time to swing the administration process their way.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibeesdude
He had a planning application to submit.Quote:
Originally Posted by RossHibs
It was a big one!
Monumental infact!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/javaImages...3534023,00.jpg
"Here you are Mr Milligan, my vision of Swynecastle!"Quote:
Originally Posted by jgl07
http://urbanparadise.files.wordpress...f9067d316f.jpg
Attachment 10332Quote:
Originally Posted by RossHibs
http://www.youtube.com/v/GSqyswviLQg
7 mins 55 secs.
Foulkes on Romanov - "....and made the appropriate checks to find out his background and it was on that basis that I was happy for him to be approached, and I'm convinced that he's not a shady charachter."
Ok then.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/13544414
Remember this day? This was them effectively taking the piss on a whole new level than previous - absolutely everyone know they had zero money and had barely paid their players the last three seasons but they just went "so ****ing what, let's offer three out of contract SPL players three times the wages they're already on."
Oh, and I bet you anything they would have announced only two signings if Jamie Hamill hadn't been a very public Hibs transfer target for the best part of a month.
This and stories like it guarantee they will recieve absolutely no sympathy from me and get exactly what they ****ing deserve. Sucks. :bye: ("naff green goodbye smiley" just for you, Mr Lawson)
I believe he did an outstanding job as Director in charge of steps painting recently!!Quote:
Originally Posted by RossHibs
According to press association. And it is Ukio Bankas's administrators and not UBIG - as I said earlier how can an insolvent company with no directors employ an administrator to protect its assets? More guff from Brian Jimbo!
At least the new strips are still on their way!!
http://www.heartsfc.co.uk/articles/2...41384_3213128?
---- perhaps the container ship was sunk by some submarine....well Romanov has nothing else to do nowadays..
Absolutely spot on IMO. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by vince1973
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Originally Posted by Craig_in_Prague
So are they in admin or not was the celebrations premature?
Ach, FFS, gie them a chanceQuote:
Originally Posted by Meh
All 400,000 Yams have ordered one
http://i39.tinypic.com/1zr0rdi.jpg
I seem to remember this word getting quite a lot of use last summer re the Sevco situation, i think it might of been someone from Fudd & Phelps who originally coined it.
Do we think that with the current situation at the PBS that we might see it re-emerge?
Still battling over who the administrator will be so the papers are yet to be lodged.Quote:
Originally Posted by pontius pilate
http://sport.stv.tv/football/229815-...of-midlothian/
A battle is under way to be named administrator of Heart of Midlothian Football Club with two firms in the frame.
The Tynecastle side signalled their intent to apply to the Court of Session on Monday.
STV understands the club’s creditors in Lithuania want BDO to take on the role while those in charge of the club in Edinburgh have approached KPMG.
Papers are yet to be lodged with the court, meaning the case can not yet be assigned to a judge.
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Originally Posted by poolman
:top marks
Think it was one of the Blue Knights that kept using it.Quote:
Originally Posted by stokesmessiah
In Hearts case, there is no quantum. There's a FaqAllTum.
15% of Hearts is held by a company called Quantum Holdings.
Does that count?
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What about the video in that report ? Whalearses laddie, WHY ?Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
Can I use the word ****um?Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Thought not.
Quntum?
Yes :greengrin
Never looked at that until now, what has Mercer's son got to do with Hearts?Quote:
Originally Posted by Treadstone
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Originally Posted by Treadstone
I think mercer Junior hung around on the fringes of various take-over schemes over the years.
What p*sses me off is everybody asked comes away with the line,
" and hopefully the Club can emerge stronger from the process ... "
Can one of the Merricks not just say ... and hopefully we can emerge in any shape or form ! :greengrin
Also he still owns the handful of shares Wallace had when he fell off the twig.
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Originally Posted by pontius pilate
they are going under - just a fight who is going to wield the knife!
Oh stop it you :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Craig Whyte used those words last February. :cbQuote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
The Liths still Sticking to the line they want the club to be sold to investors hence they want experienced administrators who are dedicated to football as well. Sounds to me like they want to do a deal.Quote:
Originally Posted by YehButNo But
:agree: Definitely this and also "clarify the situation..."Quote:
Originally Posted by greenginger
They use the words "appropriate investor".Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Meaning "those with the right amount of cash". :wink:
The administrators would not be doing their job if they did not see if any of these bids were real and for how much. Clearly most of them are fake or will be no where the money that they know they could get from just selling the stadium. That will be pahse two - sell the stadium on its own and a few bob for the Hearts name and youth players!Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Yep - I would imagine HMRC are watching closely, as are other creditors. If HMFC and/or UKIO don't sort it out amongst themselves soon who the administrator will be, you will probably find HMRC going to Court and asking for their own administrator to be appointed. When is that PAYE payment due again?Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Tomorrow, if the pay manually.Quote:
Originally Posted by GloryGlory
Or Saturday if they pay online.
desantos, from the above, do you believe that Hearts will be liquidated?Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
What if they pay by Fax?Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
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Originally Posted by Gatecrasher
They're faxxed
Yes that is my view and always has been. No bidder is real or has the money to come close to what the Ukio Bankas's administrators believe they can obtain from the selling the stadium on its own for property development. This will mean a liquidation sale. I predicted liquidation for RFC when they went into administration in February 2012. This is a different but equally complex situation if not more. HMFC will completely disappear for a period but comeback into Div 3 as new company at some point in the future. The risk for the SPL and it is very high that they cannot even begin to fulfill their fixtures never mind see them out for next season. Of course nobody believed the Hobo economists on here because they were too thick or deluded. An aware SPL would have given them the 18 points penalty on UBIG's self-insolvency and given the problem to SFL.Quote:
Originally Posted by andrew70
I have been thinking about the whole stadium being sold seperately from the club. At first i thought no chance it will happen as bidders will back out if its not lock stock, however, the fans will always cobble a bid together for the brand and history, probably through FOH. No danger will Hearts fans want to lose the 5-1 so they will definately want to buy at least the brand and history.Quote:
Originally Posted by desantos0773
Sounds like the lithuanians are going to go to war to appoint their own administrator, silly move as we all know the Yams always win wars