Hibs transfer rumours

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Yes the ancient motto of the SPL's doormats and perennial losers.

We have just been pumped 5-1 in a humiliating fashion by our City rivals who had several players in their team they had out bid us for. How about Hibs start showing a desire to win and actually make sure we start the season with the man Fenlon thought important enough to make captain whilst on loan.

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100% correct

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Originally Posted by Aldo

If the poster is correct re Alexander then I would be v happy at that (cannot see it tho).

As for budgets etc. For me I don't care who they sign as long as they come in and do a good job. Think some folk in here have delusions of granduier. Doesn't matter who we sign they won't be happy.

Yeah I want a winning team but that us going to take a bit if time.... Strong spine if a team and build from there.

Budgets mean nowt unless you spend it wisely. I trust PF to do the job and I am sure he will get us sorted before the start of pre season.

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I agree Alexander is a good goalie and as he comes from Midlothian, has a close knit family Hibs could suit him. Does worry me that he seems happy enough to be a number 2 at a club though. Does he have the right drive and will to win to fit in with the (hopefully) new culture at Easter Road? Bit like Newcastle's 2nd choice goalie (Harper?) who was happy enough to be number 2 behind Shay Given for years. Didn't hack it when required every week and has now been passed again by Krul.

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Originally Posted by Rawr.rar

Anyone got a very worrying feeling re the deal for Clancy suddenly going quiet?

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Not really. I've been so impressed with him that I thought he was a midfielder and still played for Killie.

If he does arrive at ER here's hoping he makes more of an impression!

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Originally Posted by Beefster

I've said similar in the last few weeks. The loser mentality is rife at the club - from chairman, board, players and right down to support.

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I understand what your saying Beefster but I reckon most of the fans have higher aspirations than the players or board. Certainly the standards we expect are higher than what has been delivered.
It's that shortfall which has caused much of the disappointment, anger and apathy IMO. The fans expect, demand better. :dunno:

if he signs for them itl be another massive kick in the baws from hearts before the seasons even started. I realy despair at hibs sometime

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Originally Posted by Beefster

I've said similar in the last few weeks. The loser mentality is rife at the club - from chairman, board, players and right down to support.

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Yup, we're at rock-bottom and the old ways that have gone before simply cannot apply any more.

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Originally Posted by Rawr.rar

Anyone got a very worrying feeling re the deal for Clancy suddenly going quiet?

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He's already signed. Hibs just not released the news yet.

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Originally Posted by Beefster

I've said similar in the last few weeks. The loser mentality is rife at the club - from chairman, board, players and right down to support.

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Agree.

Seems like a few folk are already preparing for, and accepting, a continuation of the same unsuccessful recruitment policies of years gone by.

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Originally Posted by Coco Bryce

He's already signed. Hibs just not released the news yet.

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What about Cairney?

I thought it had been quoted before that Alexander was on £11K a week plus £1K bench money.

To sign him am guessing we would need to make him one of the highest earners (even although nothing like he was on) but my concern with that is would he do a Jim Leighton and save you 15-20 points a season, personally I don't think so. If you can find a keeper who can do that good and well, if not why spend a big chunk of the budget on someone IMO is not really much different to what we have.

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Agree.

Seems like a few folk are already preparing for, and accepting, a continuation of the same unsuccessful recruitment policies of years gone by.

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Maybe some think there is nothing wrong with the actual process or timings, just that the previous mangers have done a bad job in identifying the correct players?

I don't see the need to bring the pre season Hibs.net panic even further into the holiday period just because we have a bit more to do. The market still works the same way and I'm more confident that Fenlon knows what we need.

I also rather suspect that a couple of the players mentioned already are lined up to be confirmed once the window actually opens and when they are around from holidays to actually sign.

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Yes the ancient motto of the SPL's doormats and perennial losers.

We have just been pumped 5-1 in a humiliating fashion by our City rivals who had several players in their team they had out bid us for. How about Hibs start showing a desire to win and actually make sure we start the season with the man Fenlon thought important enough to make captain whilst on loan.

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Okay, so what is your max weekly figure for signing him? Do you have one or just more than anyone else will pay?

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Originally Posted by Pretty Boy

Agree.

Seems like a few folk are already preparing for, and accepting, a continuation of the same unsuccessful recruitment policies of years gone by.

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There is considerable irony in this post given that it is not even the end of May and the window doesn't open until tomorrow, not to mention the fact that McPake hasn't signed for Hearts.

Other people may be preparing themselves for more disappointments in the transfer market - you are already criticising the club for the same failings (that haven't been made so far this close season), which is jumping the gun to say the least.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

Maybe some think there is nothing wrong with the actual process or timings, just that the previous mangers have done a bad job in identifying the correct players?

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You can't recognise the possibility that not signing the right players is a symptom of a number of factors, including the way that we seem to conduct our transfer business and the fact that we're usually scrabbling about after the season starts looking for free agents and trialists?

The managers will have some blame to share in but so do those running the club. To try and pin it all on the managers just weakens your argument IMHO. These problems have been going on far too long to be down to a procession of unrelated individuals all making the same mistakes, whilst the individuals who have been there from start to finish are entirely without blame.

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Originally Posted by Stevie Reid

There is considerable irony in this post given that it is not even the end of May and the window doesn't open until tomorrow, not to mention the fact that McPake hasn't signed for Hearts.

Other people may be preparing themselves for more disappointments in the transfer market - you are already criticising the club for the same failings (that haven't been made so far this close season), which is jumping the gun to say the least.

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The window doesn't open until July 1, according to Wikipedia. Either way, there's nothing stopping anyone signing players now - they just won't be able to register them until the window opens.

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Originally Posted by Beefster

You can't recognise the possibility that not signing the right players is a symptom of a number of factors, including the way that we seem to conduct our transfer business and the fact that we're usually scrabbling about after the season starts looking for free agents and trialists?

The managers will have some blame to share in but so do those running the club. To try and pin it all on the managers just weakens your argument IMHO. These problems have been going on far too long to be down to a procession of unrelated individuals all making the same mistakes, whilst the individuals who have been there from start to finish are entirely without blame.

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:agree: Spot on!

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Originally Posted by Beefster

You can't recognise the possibility that not signing the right players is a symptom of a number of factors, including the way that we seem to conduct our transfer business and the fact that we're usually scrabbling about after the season starts looking for free agents and trialists?

The managers will have some blame to share in but so do those running the club. To try and pin it all on the managers just weakens your argument IMHO. These problems have been going on far too long to be down to a procession of unrelated individuals all making the same mistakes, whilst the individuals who have been there from start to finish are entirely without blame.



The window doesn't open until July 1, according to Wikipedia. Either way, there's nothing stopping anyone signing players now - they just won't be able to register them until the window opens.

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I'd agree with that as well.:agree:

IF our man ROD lets Hearts humiliate us yet again and lets them snatch McPake it will see crowds tumble even further and be the latest in a number of embarrassing incidents

Kyle
Barr
Hamill
Webster

3 seasons destroying us where we have deserved hee haw due to the inept displays

the biggest humiliation possible in the cup final

I've lived through the bad times of their 22 in a row and all the other big undefeated runs against us but i've got to say this is the most humiliated i've ever felt as far as they are concerned. Even all the Jambos I know now just feel sorry for me instead of taking the Pi double s !!!

ROD don't let us down again... if you do it will be obvious to all - that as i have suspected for years ... you do not give an eff about the fans...

isnt adam le fondre supposed to be signing anytime soon? :wink:

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Originally Posted by Andy74

Okay, so what is your max weekly figure for signing him? Do you have one or just more than anyone else will pay?

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If we can't persuade a man we made Captain, who is clearly loved by the fans and who has proven he is the standard required to improve the club then we are in big trouble. Yes I accept that should say a Celtic comes in the sense has to prevail and we have to step aside but with Hearts openly declaring the need to cost cut I don't believe we should lose out on this deal to ANY other Scottish club.

We have a budget which Fenlon can use as he sees fit and getting McPake should be his top priority and indeed should be offered the top wage. However the squad is such a mess and so many players have to be replaced that the top wage we can offer will be diluted by the sheer number of players we have to sign.

I fear we may lose out on McPake for the reasons you suggest and iI also believe on the evidence of last year that if this is the trend all new player negotiations take then we will be relegated.

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Yes the ancient motto of the SPL's doormats and perennial losers.

We have just been pumped 5-1 in a humiliating fashion by our City rivals who had several players in their team they had out bid us for. How about Hibs start showing a desire to win and actually make sure we start the season with the man Fenlon thought important enough to make captain whilst on loan.

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I dont know how you get round that though Spike without jeapordising the future of the club.

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Originally Posted by Beefster

You can't recognise the possibility that not signing the right players is a symptom of a number of factors, including the way that we seem to conduct our transfer business and the fact that we're usually scrabbling about after the season starts looking for free agents and trialists?

The managers will have some blame to share in but so do those running the club. To try and pin it all on the managers just weakens your argument IMHO. These problems have been going on far too long to be down to a procession of unrelated individuals all making the same mistakes, whilst the individuals who have been there from start to finish are entirely without blame.



The window doesn't open until July 1, according to Wikipedia. Either way, there's nothing stopping anyone signing players now - they just won't be able to register them until the window opens.

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You are making a lot of assumptions about how you think Hibs act in the windows that I would largely disagree with.

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

If we can't persuade a man we made Captain, who is clearly loved by the fans and who has proven he is the standard required to improve the club then we are in big trouble. Yes I accept that should say a Celtic comes in the sense has to prevail and we have to step aside but with Hearts openly declaring the need to cost cut I don't believe we should lose out on this deal to ANY other Scottish club.

We have a budget which Fenlon can use as he sees fit and getting McPake should be his top priority and indeed should be offered the top wage. However the squad is such a mess and so many players have to be replaced that the top wage we can offer will be diluted by the sheer number of players we have to sign.

I fear we may lose out on McPake for the reasons you suggest and iI also believe on the evidence of last year that if this is the trend all new player negotiations take then we will be relegated.

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I'm sure we will make every effort to sign him with what wechave to play with. If any club, Hearts included, decide to pay more than we can then that's tough. That's not a failure on Hibs part.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

You are making a lot of assumptions about how you think Hibs act in the windows that I would largely disagree with.

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Unfortunately much of the evidence favours Beefster's view of the world. We're being turned down by too many players in favour of other SPL sides for it to be seen as just a coincidence now.

With every season that passes Hibs seem to manage to make themselves less and less attractive as a proposition for players as a potential club to join. Right now our stock must be as low as it's been for very many years. Partly that's down to the revolving door that's been installed in the Manager's Office.

Therefore, whether the Board likes it or not they may have to be prepared to offer more money to draw to the club a nucleus of key signings that will in turn encourage others to join.

The fervent hope is that in doing so they will bring us some much needed stability.

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Originally Posted by BEEJ

Unfortunately much of the evidence favours Beefster's view of the world. We're being turned down by too many players in favour of other SPL sides for it to be seen as just a coincidence now.

With every season that passes Hibs seem to manage to make themselves less and less attractive as a proposition for players as a potential club to join. Right now our stock must be as low as it's been for very many years. Partly that's down to the revolving door that's been installed in the Manager's Office.

Therefore, whether the Board likes it or not they may have to be prepared to offer more money to draw to the club a nucleus of key signings that will in turn encourage others to join.

The fervent hope is that in doing so they will bring us some much needed stability.

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:agree: 100%

Just reading on BBC site that Dundee Utd have signed Mark Millar from Falkirk. Saw him play a few times and he's a good Midfielder who I think would walk in to our team. Out of contract and low wages, wonder if we were interested?

Ronaldinho has just been released due to unpaid wages.... PETRIE GET IT DONE!! :wink:

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Originally Posted by Hibee Ryan

Ronaldinho has just been released due to unpaid wages.... PETRIE GET IT DONE!! :wink:

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Never knew he was at the Yams...:cb

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Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762

Never knew he was at the Yams...:cb

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:faf::faf::faf::faf::faf:

At least he had the meatballs to stand up to his club about it unlike the Yams from the pink bus shelter:agree:

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Originally Posted by BEEJ

Unfortunately much of the evidence favours Beefster's view of the world. We're being turned down by too many players in favour of other SPL sides for it to be seen as just a coincidence now.

[B]With every season that passes Hibs seem to manage to make themselves less and less attractive as a proposition for players as a potential club to join[/B]. Right now our stock must be as low as it's been for very many years. Partly that's down to the revolving door that's been installed in the Manager's Office.

Therefore, whether the Board likes it or not they may have to be prepared to offer more money to draw to the club a nucleus of key signings that will in turn encourage others to join.

The fervent hope is that in doing so they will bring us some much needed stability.

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That’s partly to do with the fact hibs seems to be the dumping ground of problematic players with bad attitutes. We’re signing folk that are not good role models drug addicts, binge drinkers and its never been sorted since john Collins left. Training ground bust ups, in trouble with the law etc.

Hibs are also puruing a deal for Slovak international defender Lubo Michalik. (The Daily Mail)

Taken from BBC gossip.

6.4 28 year old central defender.