The Way the English Speak

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03-04-2010, 03:22 PM
stu in nottingham

Examples of Nottinghamese:

Rammel - rubbish or nonsense

Sneck - a bolt or latch

Corsey - pavement

Bobbo - horse

Dudoos - sweets

Twitchel - alleyway

Nesh - feels the cold weather

Yitnee - a coward

Wobby - wasp

Mash - brewing tea

Dab in - hurry up

Tabs - ears

Mardy - spoilt, childish
03-04-2010, 03:44 PM
Leicester Fan

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Originally Posted by stu in nottingham

Examples of Nottinghamese:

Rammel - rubbish or nonsense

Mash - brewing tea

Mardy - spoilt, childish

They're Leicester too .Also

Rocks-sweets

Jitty-Alleyway.
03-04-2010, 04:51 PM
hibeeleicester

Jitty - close :agree:

Dont know if you fellow midlands notice but here they say "I brought a TV" Instead of "I Bought a TV" , never got this one , why? Just why?

Also Chewing Gum - Chuddy :confused:
03-04-2010, 05:30 PM
stu in nottingham

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Originally Posted by hibeeleicester

Jitty - close :agree:
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You'll find the word 'jitty' used in D H Lawrence's works, HL. 'Ginnel' is another word for it but I think that's more at home in Yorkshire.

There's lots for baby talk in Nottm too. 'Bobbars' is sometimes said to young children to take their hands off something.

Best are some of the old expressions. 'So hungry I could eat a 'oss between two bread vans'. :greengrin
03-04-2010, 06:29 PM
Phil D. Rolls

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Originally Posted by hibeeleicester

Jitty - close :agree:

Dont know if you fellow midlands notice but here they say "I brought a TV" Instead of "I Bought a TV" , never got this one , why? Just why?

Also Chewing Gum - Chuddy :confused:

In Dublin, when they get in a cab they say "bring me to". For example, "bring me to Temple Bar".

I'm finding this stuff from the Midlands very interesting. It seems that whereas further north we're speaking a Germanic version of English, the language of that area seems more Norse. Anybody able to put me straight on that?
03-04-2010, 07:21 PM
stu in nottingham

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

It seems that whereas further north we're speaking a Germanic version of English, the language of that area seems more Norse. Anybody able to put me straight on that?

I'm not sure of the language connections you're thinking of FR but I can tell you that there was plenty of Viking activity in the area I live in just north of Nottingham. Danes are recorded as marching down the main road here in the late 800s' on the way from York to sack Nottingham. There are also a good amount of local place names that are of Norse origin such as Woodthorpe and ****horpe - 'Gunni's steading (home) etc.

Maybe you're onto something there?
03-04-2010, 07:34 PM
Jonnyboy

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Originally Posted by thekaratekid

using "how" instead of "why" seems to confuse non-scots

Same with shot instead of go :greengrin
03-04-2010, 07:44 PM
stu in nottingham

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Originally Posted by Jonnyboy

Same with shot instead of go :greengrin

In Nottingham a 'shot' is something you wear underneath your jumper (ganzie)!
03-04-2010, 07:47 PM
ArabHibee

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Originally Posted by deano88

I never knew that.

My flatmate is from Hull and says "do one" as in 'do you want to do one?' i.e. leave.

I'm not sure if it's an English thing but it's a horrendous phrase.

He also calls rolls 'breadcakes'.

I would say that was an Americanism. Heard it in loads of movies.
03-04-2010, 08:11 PM
J-C

Why do we say a half loaf, when we really mean a whole one.
03-04-2010, 08:53 PM
greenlex

Slightly off topic but my cousin Patricia was down from Aberdeen one time when we were Kids. We were all sitting at the dinner table when she fell off the seat and bumped her head. The conversation went some thing like this.

Lex's Ma - You awright Hen.

Pat- (To her Ma whilst greetin her eyes oot) Fir why is Auntie Marion cryin me a Hen Ma? Sure I'm nae a Hen.

Like it happened yesterday.
03-04-2010, 09:01 PM
marinello59

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Originally Posted by greenlex

Slightly off topic but my cousin Patricia was down from Aberdeen one time when we were Kids. We were all sitting at the dinner table when she fell off the seat and bumped her head. The conversation went some thing like this.

Lex's Ma - You awright Hen.

Pat- (To her Ma whilst greetin her eyes oot) Fir why is Auntie Marion cryin me a Hen Ma? Sure I'm nae a Hen.

Like it happened yesterday.

:greengrin
Calling your son a loon outside of Aberdeen brings some nasty disapproving looks, that's for sure
03-04-2010, 09:31 PM
Leicester Fan

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

I'm finding this stuff from the Midlands very interesting. It seems that whereas further north we're speaking a Germanic version of English, the language of that area seems more Norse. Anybody able to put me straight on that?

It's the East Midlands really. We're totally different to the West Midlands/Birmingham.

It has been said that English started around the Leicester area as it was on the border between the Danish(viking) area of Britain and the Anglo Saxon half. English was the hybrid language used when trading between the 2 groups.I don't know how true that is though.
04-04-2010, 09:04 AM
Phil D. Rolls

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Originally Posted by Leicester Fan

It's the East Midlands really. We're totally different to the West Midlands/Birmingham.

It has been said that English started around the Leicester area as it was on the border between the Danish(viking) area of Britain and the Anglo Saxon half. English was the hybrid language used when trading between the 2 groups.I don't know how true that is though.

That's interesting and makes perfect sense to me. As a dialect/language, the East Midlands words are strikingly different from those used a hundred miles, or so, up the road.

I've always been struck by the way people from Nottingham especially have strong northern traits to their dialect and accent. It's a wee bit like Stranraer in that you get a mix of different influences - there it's partly Strathclyde, with a hint of Cumbrian, and a strong hint of Irish.
04-04-2010, 09:15 AM
stu in nottingham

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

That's interesting and makes perfect sense to me. As a dialect/language, the East Midlands words are strikingly different from those used a hundred miles, or so, up the road.

I've always been struck by the way people from Nottingham especially have strong northern traits to their dialect and accent. It's a wee bit like Stranraer in that you get a mix of different influences - there it's partly Strathclyde, with a hint of Cumbrian, and a strong hint of Irish.

It's quite complex really and within a very few miles in this area the dialect can be quite different. The suburb four miles north of Nottingham I live in has a much different sound to the one in the town of Hucknall which is barely four miles West as the crow flies. You tend to find that towns like the latter, with strong former mining communities have a much more 'Northern' sound. A lot of the former coal mining areas of Nottingham are situated to the North and West of the county and some will have had the influence of miners and familes settling there from the North of England and indeed Scotland
04-04-2010, 09:36 PM
ballengeich

A few years ago there were a number of road accidents on Humberside caused by people going through red lights. The sign said "Halt while lights are red". In the local dialect while means until.

One that gets me is "I was made up". I think it's a Lancashire phrase. Is the speaker invented or simply covered in cosmetics?
05-04-2010, 04:46 PM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by ballengeich

One that gets me is "I was made up". I think it's a Lancashire phrase. Is the speaker invented or simply covered in cosmetics?

... or constructed from parts like a robot. Example: Michael Owen, the most boring speaker in the world.
06-04-2010, 08:43 AM
J-C

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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee

... or constructed from parts like a robot. Example: Michael Owen, the most boring speaker in the world.

Ye ano
06-04-2010, 09:24 AM
HibeeB

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Originally Posted by Filled Rolls

I go mental at all these adverts that are selling "hay kay" products like Pantene, and Silvikrin.

Shirley Paz is the best hay kay product?
07-04-2010, 12:26 PM
Posh Swanny

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Originally Posted by ballengeich

A few years ago there were a number of road accidents on Humberside caused by people going through red lights. The sign said "Halt while lights are red". In the local dialect while means until.

One that gets me is "I was made up". I think it's a Lancashire phrase. Is the speaker invented or simply covered in cosmetics?

My girlfriend is from deepest, darkest Lancashire and somehow manages to use that when talking about birthdays: "My Dad made up 60 last year". I know someone who is even doing a PhD on the peculiarities of the language/accent in that neck of the woods (Rossendale).

And although it took me a while to pick up on the little Scottishisms, I must say I like and use a lot of them - "outwith" is a brilliant word and "juice" is a much nicer way to describe "pop".

I still haven't warmed to "who's first" being called when Im waiting in a queue though.
07-04-2010, 12:28 PM
Posh Swanny

Oooh, another Scottish one:

"just now".

Love it!
07-04-2010, 12:37 PM
Phil D. Rolls

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Originally Posted by Posh Swanny

My girlfriend is from deepest, darkest Lancashire and somehow manages to use that when talking about birthdays: "My Dad made up 60 last year". I know someone who is even doing a PhD on the peculiarities of the language/accent in that neck of the woods (Rossendale).

And although it took me a while to pick up on the little Scottishisms, I must say I like and use a lot of them - "outwith" is a brilliant word and "juice" is a much nicer way to describe "pop".

I still haven't warmed to "who's first" being called when Im waiting in a queue though.

One that seems peculiar to Edinburgh, is shop assistants who say "that'll be £5.99 thanks". Surely it should be "£5.99 please"?
08-04-2010, 10:22 AM
Hillsidehibby

Another one I only hear in Edinburgh is "the next again day" . Fair annoys the weegies that one.
08-04-2010, 01:47 PM
Lucius Apuleius

Big argument with a guy offshore many moons ago who wanted to know where to get tools from. Sent him to the Toolpusher as he was a driller. Came back even angrier wanting tools to dry himself.
08-04-2010, 07:56 PM
lapsedhibee

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Originally Posted by Posh Swanny

Oooh, another Scottish one:

"just now".

Love it!

Now that is posh.

Us yins say "the now".
08-04-2010, 08:03 PM
Danderhall Hibs

Has anyone ever heard Darren Gough on TalkSport? Hopeless.
08-04-2010, 08:24 PM
hibeeleicester

Quote:

Originally Posted by stu in nottingham

It's quite complex really and within a very few miles in this area the dialect can be quite different. The suburb four miles north of Nottingham I live in has a much different sound to the one in the town of Hucknall which is barely four miles West as the crow flies. You tend to find that towns like the latter, with strong former mining communities have a much more 'Northern' sound. A lot of the former coal mining areas of Nottingham are situated to the North and West of the county and some will have had the influence of miners and familes settling there from the North of England and indeed Scotland

:agree:

Was in a place called normanton right in the middle of Derby, Nottingham, Mansfield. Its like a farmers accent. Think hot fuzz with a yorkshire hint :confused:

Really weird how different it all is withing a small(ish) area.
08-04-2010, 08:32 PM
Mibbes Aye

I thought having your tea lifted (i.e. it was ready and being served) was Scottish, but talking about it to other folk, it sounds like it might just be Edinburgh?

My personal favourite is probably 'clapping' a dog or a cat. Those unfamiliar with the expression must wonder what the pet has done to deserve such acclamation......
08-04-2010, 08:36 PM
ArabHibee

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

I thought having your tea lifted (i.e. it was ready and being served) was Scottish, but talking about it to other folk, it sounds like it might just be Edinburgh?

My personal favourite is probably 'clapping' a dog or a cat. Those unfamiliar with the expression must wonder what the pet has done to deserve such acclamation......

That's a new one on me.
08-04-2010, 08:45 PM
Speedy

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Originally Posted by Mibbes Aye

I thought having your tea lifted (i.e. it was ready and being served) was Scottish, but talking about it to other folk, it sounds like it might just be Edinburgh?

My personal favourite is probably 'clapping' a dog or a cat. Those unfamiliar with the expression must wonder what the pet has done to deserve such acclamation......

I've never heard that

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