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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

Vote Torry.

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I'm in. Free fash and furry boots.*

(For Aberdonians only.)

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Originally Posted by foreverhibs

You must be on the wind up. Otherwise you are easily the most ignorant person i have ever encountered.

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Vote Cameron - you KNOW it makes sense.

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Originally Posted by lyonhibs

Good god :faf:

You are going to come onto a entirely subjective forum where people post - at best - decently informed opinions to make your final voting decision????

TO be honest. no political party inspires me - the problem with a 2 party system is that - through necessity to entice voters it feels may be leaning towards party B, Party A feels compelled to make concessions on its own policies to try and entice voters to vote for them that would not have done so without those concessions.

Once they've got the votes, the concessions they said they were going to make become a whole lot less important, which is why the vast majority of stuff included in shiny manifesto's could be considered to barely be worth the paper it's written on.

For me, for all their undoubted faults, there have been measures made by the Labour government - tax credits, the £250 Child vouchers, minumum wage etc - which I agree with, and the idea of George Osborne running the economy (bear in mind that, rightly or wrongly, a decent proportion of people will take personalities as well as policies into consideration when voting) fills me with such dread, that - if I get out of bed on polling day (therein lies the problem, IMO it's up to the political parties to do their bit in motivating the voters, beyond just going "Keep the <insert name of rival here> out. Please vote") - I'll vote Labour long before I'd vote Tory.

Not particularly analytical, or maybe even rational, and doubtless there will some hefty opinionated posts to come from the usual suspects in this thread, but my take on things nonetheless.

So, if I was forced by gunpoint to vote, it would be Labour. And I am of the opinion that - unless the ruling government literally infringes upon one's basic human rights - if you don't vote, you've chucked away your chance to have a say and therefore should just grin and bear it until the next election comes around. Don't moan about what the democratic process throws up if you can't be arsed participating in it.

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Classy. I don't think I'll bother with this thread. I'd have much more respect for people if they actually challenged the things I was saying, rather than mock.

Doesn't really say much for you when that is all you have in your locker.

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

If you are a nanny state scrounger living off MY taxes RAISE your hands...

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It's always nice to put a name to my benfactor. Cheers.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

Vote Cameron - you KNOW it makes sense.

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Thanks for the advice. With the compelling, in depth and articulate argument you have put forward for the Tory cause i think i am left with no choice but to vote for a party which attracts supporters like yourself.

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

If you are a nanny state scrounger living off MY taxes RAISE your hands...

Not only are you living a life of LUXUARY thanks to the STATE, you recieved an EDUCATION to join the SPELLING POLICE...

Troubled times ahead.

Bring back Maggie. She wouldnt have put up with this.

PAY your POLL TAX.

MINERS STRIKE??? Not any more!!!
ARGY BARGIES?? Back in your box.
WORKING CLASSES?? Buy your council houses you tramps.

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:faf: :thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

If you are a nanny state scrounger living off MY taxes RAISE your hands... That'll be me then. :bye:

Not only are you living a life of LUXUARY thanks to the STATE, you recieved an EDUCATION to join the SPELLING POLICE... Once you tell me what dictionary I'll find the word LUXUARY in I'll be able to tell you if I'm living the life of it.

Troubled times ahead. I would actually say scary times ahead if those muppets get in.

Bring back Maggie. She wouldnt have put up with this. Put up with what? Your inane ramblings?

PAY your POLL TAX. I didn't actually. Had the sheriff officers round at my door and everything. Tut tut. Was glad my parents were away on holiday when that happened.

MINERS STRIKE??? Not any more!!! :yawn:
ARGY BARGIES?? Back in your box. :yawn:
WORKING CLASSES?? Buy your council houses you tramps. :yawn:

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An education system under the Tories did my spelling the world of good. Pity you can't say the same thing.

Your very welcome.

Join me at the game tommorrow and we can debate the DOWNFALL of SCROUNGERS in Britain over a prawn sandwich...

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

David Cameron will be a great PM (and he hates the yams too) so even more reason to vote for him.

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He does? Superb. Link?:greengrin

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

An education system under the Tories did my spelling the world of good. Pity you can't say the same thing.

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No NEED for exams when DADDY knows the HEADMASTER at the local CONSERVATIVE CLUB.

I was born PRIVALIGED with no NEED to try and climb the social ladder.

The Labour Govt TRY to get you up to MY standings and this MUST STOP.

Vote Torry - keep me wealthy.

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

Your very welcome.

Join me at the game tommorrow and we can debate the DOWNFALL of SCROUNGERS in Britain over a prawn sandwich...

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I'll have to decline. My Jobseeker's allowance won't stretch to a ticket in the West Stand this week.

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

Your very welcome.

Join me at the game tommorrow and we can debate the DOWNFALL of SCROUNGERS in Britain over a prawn sandwich...

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Unfortunately i'll have to decline your offer. As a Labour supporter i am, of course, helping out my Asian, lesbian, single mothers, criminal alternative theatre group.

As an aside for such a strong Conservative supporter you seem to have a real problem spelling Tory. Only one R.

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Originally Posted by marinello59

I'm in. Free fash and furry boots.*

(For Aberdonians only.)

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Good man.

Work hard and you could achieve anything you want (providing its not above middle class of course - we dont want your type down the Polo Club)

Looking for a new butler...

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

No NEED for exams when DADDY knows the HEADMASTER at the local CONSERVATIVE CLUB.

I was born PRIVALIGED with no NEED to try and climb the social ladder.

The Labour Govt TRY to get you up to MY standings and this MUST STOP.

Vote Torry - keep me wealthy.

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Who??

You are either

a) A yam

b) Hibs Spain

c) A massive wind up merchant

or

d) A complete and utter idiot.

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Originally Posted by foreverhibs

Unfortunately i'll have to decline your offer. As a Labour supporter i am, of course, helping out my Asian, lesbian, single mothers, criminal alternative theatre group.

As an aside for such a strong Conservative supporter you seem to have a real problem spelling Tory. Only one R.

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We are part of a new RIGHT WING splinter group. Shhhh...

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Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Who??

You are either

a) A yam

b) Hibs Spain

c) A massive wind up merchant

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d) A complete and utter idiot.

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There are 3 correct answers to that question isn't there?

To be perfectly honest mate you have totally lost me.

If you were trying to have a laugh or on the wind up then it's gone way over my head(and quite a few others by the looks of things).

On the other hand if you're serious then you are a complete and utter plum

Anyway i've had enough i'm off to bed.

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Originally Posted by GlesgaeHibby

Who??

You are either

a) A yam :grr:

b) Hibs Spain :bitchy:

c) A massive wind up merchant :greengrin

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d) A complete and utter idiot.

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:wink:

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

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Is the moral of the story drink beer and vote Tory.......sorry Torry.:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

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Aye, only in your head. I've been told looking down on things does make them appear bigger than they truly are.

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

Aye, only in your head. I've been told looking down on things does make them appear bigger than they truly are.

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****.:boo hoo:

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

Aye, only in your head. I've been told looking down on things does make them appear bigger than they truly are.

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So when I look down on Labour supporters, that means they are small???

Hmmm interesting theory. :top marks

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

So when I look down on Labour supporters, that means they are small???

Hmmm interesting theory. :top marks

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:faf: Please come back on the Holy Ground lunchtime during the week. You could have some serious fun then.

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Originally Posted by IndieHibby

Classy. I don't think I'll bother with this thread. I'd have much more respect for people if they actually challenged the things I was saying, rather than mock.

Doesn't really say much for you when that is all you have in your locker.

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I should have made myself clearer.

I was indeed challenging the notion that - realistically - the numero uno place to get concrete, unbiased "facts" about politics, political parties and their policies was a open internet forum, one of the several wonders of which is that opinionated people can post their own take on matters and engage in discussion.

But a bona fide reliable source of indisputable "facts"????

I think not, although I have no idea where you'd go to get information on politics and political parties that fits that criteria.

ZippytheHibee must be Macar under another new name?! :agree:
What with his grate speeling and educashun.
Macar's a slavering tory as well I'm told. Or was it a slavering toly? :hmmm:

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Originally Posted by ZippytheHibee

If you are a nanny state scrounger living off MY taxes RAISE your hands...

Not only are you living a life of LUXUARY thanks to the STATE, you recieved an EDUCATION to join the SPELLING POLICE...

Troubled times ahead.

Bring back Maggie. She wouldnt have put up with this.

PAY your POLL TAX.

MINERS STRIKE??? Not any more!!!
ARGY BARGIES?? Back in your box.
WORKING CLASSES?? Buy your council houses you tramps.

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One more argument for using parental controls on the computer.

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Originally Posted by marinello59

I'm in. Free fash and furry boots.*

(For Aberdonians only.)

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I got it. :greengrin

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Originally Posted by ArabHibee

There are 3 correct answers to that question isn't there?

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i thought there were 4 correct answers? :confused::greengrin

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Originally Posted by lyonhibs

I should have made myself clearer.

I was indeed challenging the notion that - realistically - the numero uno place to get concrete, unbiased "facts" about politics, political parties and their policies was a open internet forum, one of the several wonders of which is that opinionated people can post their own take on matters and engage in discussion.

But a bona fide reliable source of indisputable "facts"????

I think not, although I have no idea where you'd go to get information on politics and political parties that fits that criteria.

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Apologies if I got the wrong end of the stick - you're probably right - this isn't the place to try to get balanced discussion of issues.

I am just bored with listening to the same-old, same-old tired rhetoric from all political persuasions. I thought that by putting up actual problems and discussing from there we may get somewhere.

Silly me! :grr:

I doubt that anything I read or hear is going to make me change my voting intentions. But I am open to the possibility.

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Originally Posted by hibeeliam

what is everyones views on the tories? the fact that they are going to make the rich, richer and the poor, poorer is totaly out of order what do you think

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Is this Conservative official policy? If so, I need to find out if I'm rich or poor before I vote. I was fairly sure, before your expert analysis, that their policy is to increase social mobility though.

Incidentally, the rich/poor gap is greater after 13 years of a Labour government that at any point since the 60's. Good effort by Blair/Brown but I'm not sure if that was one of their official policies or not. Perhaps you can do some more analysis and report back?

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Originally Posted by hibeeliam

what is everyones views on the tories? the fact that they are going to make the rich, richer and the poor, poorer is totaly out of order what do you think

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My view is that they will form the next Government...