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It is now your duty to keep us up to date on thisQuote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
Most of those teams look like a bad Scrabble hand!Quote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
Interesting names that's for sure.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scorrie
Brest :tee hee:Quote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
They should be booted out this seasonQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
There’s a couple of very winnable games in the teams higher up that list. It looks to me as if the playoff round will be at a similar level to the 3rd round of the Europa League in the old set up where we played Molde last time around.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
With some decent luck in the draws there’s no reason we can’t be looking to make the group stage
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Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
We want the ones in bold, no hopers.
They stayed at the hotel in Athens our bus left for Tripolos from. There tracksuits were the same as scotland ones and I assumed they were Hibees at first in a scotland training top. Sure they won their tie that night in AthensQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Big brestys badge look like ours
Don’t worry, it’ll be against similar levels of ***** to ourselves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diclonius
Every one of those teams screams of cheap beer, red fags and a small but dedicated groups of ****ing mental hooligans.Quote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
I'd be impressed if you managed to find cheap beer in Norway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jones28
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Originally Posted by BS44
Or Sweden!! I mind being there and it costing an absolute fortune for a pint up in Elfsborg.
Thats true. And we'd get beat.Quote:
Originally Posted by BS44
We have a decent chance at making the play-off round, at which point we'll most likely get ****ed.
Doing some research about driving as bored at work:
Dynamo Brest (Belarus) 1562 miles, dodgy politically and I am sure you'd need a visa and all that to go in any case.
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia) 1418 miles
FC Ashdod (Israel) Too far
Valerenga (Norway) 1390 miles
BK Hacken (Sweden) 1278 miles
IF Elfsborg (Sweden) 1286 miles
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria) 2055 miles
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan) Too far
Tobol (Kazakhstan) Too far
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan) Too far
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus See Brest
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland) 1415 miles
Pogon Szczecin (Poland) 1194 miles
I am off work for 7 weeks over the summer, really fancying a road trip, I think Slovakia, Norway, Sweden and Poland are all doable.
Are we in a position in terms of quality where we can enact revenge on Elfsborg?
Copenhagen for the Brondby match was the same. Spent more there in a day and a bit that I did in Benidorm in 3 days a week later ��Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
It was worth every penny spent there though. Cracking trip. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
Just jump on any Ryanair flight and you have a chance of landing in Belarus.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Best and most underrated thread on here, in all the carnage there's a reminder that we're in a Euro draw!
PANT WETTERS - "Jack out" "Sell the club" "Shut the doors and sell the ground" "Hunners aren't renewing in disgust"
NORMAL RESPECTFUL FANS - "When's the Euro draw?" "Quite excited about seeing our name be pulled out"
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Originally Posted by I'm Spartacus
Its just a shame that we are unlikely to be able to travel to the away legs.
Hadn't they just sold him before? Or did he play?Quote:
Originally Posted by Green Man
I remain hopeful that by then we will, basically 8 weeks from now...fingers crossed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Didn’t play at ER, but was back for the return leg and scored twice.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bad Habits
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Originally Posted by H18 SFR
You'll likely need both vaccines and I will only have had my first dose unfortunately.
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Originally Posted by wallpaperman
He absolutely destroyed us that night.
All us oldies who will have had both doses will have to fly the Hibernian flag. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
I'm not going anywhere near Belarus and I can't even spell jurnalist! :paranoid:Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
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Originally Posted by marinello59
You can borrow my 15ft x 8ft Hibs On Tour flag if you want. :greengrin
Already checking the Conference League Wiki page daily to see updates on who is confirmed and who we might draw😁
We could get a Welsh team in the first round we’re in at, maybe we’d be able to get to that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Deal. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Get on Bert kassies mate, it's updated quicker and usually more accurate I find.Quote:
Originally Posted by LancsHibs
(I'm not on commission I swear)
Hibs On Tour in the foothills of Kazakhstan, I can see it now :hilarious:hilarious, If it's possible I will definitely look into organising buses againQuote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
Had both jabs, and if allowed i'd love to take the car on a road trip for a few days travelling somewhere different.
Update on who we can play:
Dynamo Brest (Belarus)
Dunajska Streda (Slovakia)
Winners of match involving FH (Iceland)
FC Ashdod (Israel)
Winners of match involving Sutjeska (Montenegro)
Valerenga (Norway)
BK Hacken (Sweden)
IF Elfsborg (Sweden)
Lokomotiv Plovdiv (Bulgaria)
Winners of match involving Europa (Gibraltar)
Winners of match involving Liepaja (Latvia)
Winners of match involving Hibernians (Malta)
Winners of match involving FCI Levadia Tallinn (Estonia)
Winners of match involving Drita (Kosovo)
Kesla (Azerbaijan)
Sumgayit (Azerbaijan)
Winners of match involving La Fiorita (San Marino)
Winners of match involving Stjarnan (Iceland)
Tobol (Kazakhstan)
Shakhter Karagandy (Kazakhstan)
Winners of match involving Puskas Academia (Hungary)
Winners of match involving Ujpest (Hungary)
Torpedo Zhodino (Belarus
Rakow Czestochowa (Poland)
Pogon Szczecin (Poland)
Winners of the Swedish Cup
Arda/Cherno More (Bulgaria)
10 Winners from the first qualifying round
Pogan Szczecin away with the Hibs mob stripped to the waist in the cage behind the goals!
Bad luck man. On the other hand, I’ve had both :hyperQuote:
Originally Posted by Hermit Crab
Ashdod, watch out for those Hamas rockets!Quote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
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I’m still shifting it about the Scotland game in Copenhagen, and that’s not until the 1st September!Quote:
Originally Posted by H18 SFR
J
I'm the same, but the first round we're in might be tricky for me.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Will we be away first if we're seeded?
I've no idea Dave. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibbyradge
Elfsborg. What a money that trip cost last time. Took the Hacken game in that weekend for a cheaper Sunday night as well along with a few others Hibbies.Quote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
Latvia would be great again, Estonia too. If we were allowed of course!
Sorry if it’s been said, does anyone know the dates for…
The draw
The first leg we play in
The second leg we play in (will the home or away leg be first)
Second round dates and so on.
Cheers
Just looking to see if I need to book some holiday.
J
Europa Conference League: Fixture dates and format as Spurs qualify (msn.com)Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
We start in the second qualifying round, the draw's made on 16th June and the ties are played on 22nd and 29th July.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bristolhibby
Not too sure who will be at home in the first leg but as we're seeded I think the second leg might be at home.
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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Thats usually the case, second leg at home for seeded clubs.
Ok let me know if I've got this right? We enter the second round and there is no big teams in there so that tie is winable, we would then have to negotiate another two rounds to reach the group stage, our seeding would be similar to Aberdeen's is this correct? Do any big teams enter after the second round and with our seeding how likely are we to avoid the bigger teams?
First time I've looked at that was today - great find, thanks for sharing!Quote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
Ashdod are the Israeli side we signed Marciano from I’m sure. If he’s going back to Israel to play not out with the realms of possibility he might re-sign for them.Quote:
Originally Posted by St Pauli Hibee
There are some big teams in the second round, but we are definitely seeded so will avoid them.Quote:
Originally Posted by 147lothian
Us (and Aberdeen) are definitely unseeded for the third round, so could get a tough draw.
The quality of seeded teams in qualifying round 3 is going to vary quite a lot, with sides like Dundalk and FC Ferhevar (hungary) at one end of the spectrum, and Basel, Gent, Anderlecht, Copenhagen at the stronger end.
One benefit to getting a tough draw in round 3 would be that it may end up allowing us to be seeded for the play-off tie, making it theoretically easier to reach the groups as only one upset would be required instead of 2.
Cheers Fergus52, so in theory, we could reach the group stages by only playing one tough tie, depending on the draw of courseQuote:
Originally Posted by Fergus52
Whoever we get I hope we’ve got most of the squad sorted in terms of arrivals and departures. Too often we’ve went into these European qualifiers under strength
Turns out if Man United win St Johnstone might go back to where we originally thought the Cup winner would be ie: guaranteed until Xmas.
So we could, potentially, have a Hibs v Hibs match?
Don't think that's right man? Don't think any result tonight would impact where the Scottish Cup winners enter European football.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
Before the game on Saturday, the only way it would be affected was by Villarreal winning the Europa League and also finishing in European League places in La Liga. However, Villarreal finished outside of the euro places
Hope Villareal win then. Nothing against St Johnstone but had taken some consolation from us at least not having missed out on that bounty after all!Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
I'd be hoarse with booing by kick off.Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
Just passing on info from a guy on twitter who is an expert on such matters.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Icelandic fishing untied will be quaking in their boots
:faf: :top marksQuote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
Dale Johnson? Just seen that. Bizarre. 'Mon Villarreal then.Quote:
Originally Posted by flash
FFS. Surely we’ve no handed St J guaranteed European fitbaw until xmasQuote:
Originally Posted by flash
Nope.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
If it happens they earned it. Some of the angst on here is getting silly now.
Some folk on here would have a stroke.Quote:
Originally Posted by Glory Lurker
And not in a good way.
If so, they earned it and we gifted it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
I'm honestly not sure anyone knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
A few folk saying if Man Utd win St Johnstone COULD be promoted up then gain guaranteed group stage football.
Everything should be clearer after a Uefa meeting tomorrow. So, who knows.
I’d still prefer a villareal win tonight just incaseQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Aw absolutely! Without a doubt. Joma brothers as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Hopefully we don’t need to worry any further. Hahaha aye Joma brothers, wonder if they’ll loan us some playersQuote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
Pretty sure. Villarreal win tonight means St J will reap the financial rewards of playing at the minimum in the Europa Conference group stages.Another reason to be seriously pissed off with Saturdays performance and result.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Only UEFA or FIFA could make a simple game like fitba intae such a friggin' dugs dinner .... just chuck every bugger intae a hat and get on with it :greengrin
I dont think it does.Quote:
Originally Posted by CB Hibs 68
However there is a UEFA meeting tomorrow that will clarify it.
Na think that changed for some reasonQuote:
Originally Posted by CB Hibs 68
Villarreal had to qualify for the Europa League through the league for that, but they finished 7th in the end.Quote:
Originally Posted by Stuart93
Ok .Let’s accept that UEFA are making this issue totally convuluted.Fact is Villareal are now courtesy of winning tonight in the Champions Lesgue.This somehow someways opens the door for ST J to end up playing Europiean fitba till Xmas.Goodluck to them playing twice a week .Quote:
Originally Posted by davhibby
Two Hibs teams to slag off in one match? The match thread would be about 400 pages long.....Quote:
Originally Posted by ekhibee
So you could say that if St Johnstone are now guaranteed group stage football til Xmas (and good luck to them btw) then that capitulation we had to endure on Saturday has quite literally cost the club millions in revenue.
You could say that yes. Althoguh it would be a waste of time saying something that has already been done to death.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
You could say that, but seeing as SJ are NOT guaranteed euro football till Xmas it would be a waste of breath.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
As far as I understand the very complicated process, the Scottish Cup winners needed either Chelsea or Villarreal to win the Champions League/Europa League AND qualify for the Europa League through their domestic league.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
Since Chelsea qualified for the Champions League and Villarreal the Europa Conference League I believe St Johnstone miss out on a bye to the Europa League play offs.
I think!
That's the way that I understand it. Saints need a team that has already qualified for the Europa League to win one of the two European competitions that would result on them being 'promoted' into the Champions League, with the result that teams that qualified for the Europa League moving up one spot in the rankings.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
Simples!
Not that it matters now to Hibs. When do we now play our first European game?
22nd July.Quote:
Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
Is it really a waste of breath though, they will be if what was alluded to on the previous page is true and they are now straight into the Europa League play off, then they will be guaranteed group stage football.Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
Hope I’m wrong however
I don't think its inconceivable that villareal winning last night will bump us into Q3 rather than Q2, looking at the access list...
I see Rio Ferdinand and Jermaine Jenas were on BT last night saying the Conference League is a joke and they don’t think it’ll last more than a season..
Wonder what the logic is behind that, if there’s any at all of course.
Villarreal weren’t in the Europa League next season so their qualification for the Champions League shouldn’t create a space to be filled in that competition. They were qualified for the Europa Conference League so it is feasible their victory could have a positive impact on the round we enter but I’d need to look further into whether that was the case.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
You are incorrect, hence my comment on a waste of breath… sorry I didn’t mean it to come across as petty… just reinforcing the point that the points that needed to be hit for SJ to get a playoff spot have already been missed regardless of the EL and CL final results.Quote:
Originally Posted by .Sean.
The only football that matters to the TV companies are the upper Premier league teams and the Champions League.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
There was (still is) plenty of slagging of the Europa league as vastly inferior and that EPL teams want to avoid it. They mean top Premier League teams want to avoid it. That changed when the winners got CL group stage qualification.
Just snobbery and insulting to teams / countries outside the elite.
No harm done, for once more than happy to be proved wrong 😂Quote:
Originally Posted by BlackSheep
Ferdinand is a drugs cheat and Jermaine Jeans is the most boring person on tele.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
Maybe we’d not need a conference league which btw will contain big clubs that unfortunately don’t have the finances to compete at the top table if clubs like the ones they represented hadn’t bled the game dry the last 20 years and insisted on a champions league containing teams that finish 3rd and 4th. Idiots.
It depends who you are.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
If you’re Arsenal or Spurs who have to continue to get in champions league money to play their ludicrous wages, it’s a waste of time.
If you’re a team from a small country with a poor domestic tv deal it’s a total financial lifeline.
it a joke is we have pundits like that who seem to be unable to talk about football unless it directly relates to the English top flight.
Absolutely :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I wonder though if they have some sort of knowledge of the financial side of it etc and reckon it’s unviable for clubs or whether it is really just a load of ***** they’re talking because the world to them revolves around the EPL...
You know what, ignore me, I know the answer :greengrin
Nah I don’t think they are speaking with any inside knowledge, I think it’s ignorance. The conference league is bound to make the teams that do well in it a few million quid. For a start, there is a broadcast deal already, BT sport have the U.K. rights (the channel on which the pundits were slagging it off :rolleyes: Also, it’s structured like the CL with group stages to maximise amount of screen eyeball time and then knockout, and all the games will be televised. I can’t see how it WONT make money (at least at the levels that will benefit the likes of Rosenberg, or the 4th or 5th teams in Portugal or the Ukrainian runners up, and hopefully touch wood Hibs).Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
A Spurs fan I vaguely know had suggested that they will play their "youth team" in the conf league. Also that there is a "small amount of money" on offer.Quote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
I guess it's all relative, when our first 11 probably earn the same in total as one or two EPL stars on inflated salaries
It will still be decent cash to Hibs, Aberdeen etc
Our first 11 combined probably earn somewhere in the region of £25,000 a week. I'm guessing that's probably about half of what a single first team player at Tottenham is on.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Ridiculous when you think about it.
Harry Kane's reportedly on around £200,000 per week.Quote:
Originally Posted by Since90+2
That's the problem with big clubs now, it's not about the competition or winning a trophy its all about how much money they can earn.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
They need to decide what side of the fence they're on.Quote:
Originally Posted by calumhibee1
Only a few weeks ago they were busy painting themselves as the saviour of football with their opposition to the ESL.
Now they're against anyone but the big clubs playing in Europe.
As hypocritical as ever.