Tories are still lying *******s

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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby

There hasn’t been much evidence of Scottish voters looking towards Labour?


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There's still a sizable amount of Scottish Labour voters, particularly in older age groups. Probably the group that needs won over the most this time

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Originally Posted by Smartie

Can't agree with any of this, really.

He got elected on the back of the Brexit ticket and that led to him having a handsome majority.

The circumstances leading into the next election would be VERY different.

Even taking certain circumstances into account that weren't necessarily his fault - covid, then what looks like being a subsequent global financial crisis will have meant a very difficult few years for people whilst he has been in charge.

I think his departure would be a godsend to the Tories, although it might be worth holding onto him to soak up a bit of grief whilst we go through the next spell of financial turmoil before appointing someone new in time for a "fresh approach" to the next election.

He's toxic I'm afraid, and he's being saved to an extent by the opposition being as pish as they are.

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The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

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True inflation would be huge anyway, but brexit has added a % point

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

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But worse for us because of Brexit.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

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Labour didn't spend £10billion on buying useless PPE from their friends, or give £4billion away in fraudulent furlough claims. Nor did they oversee a Brexit which resulted in the UK suffering an annual drop of £100billion in GDP.

Mark Steel summarising all those Tory MP's resignation letters

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It has been an honour and a privilege, to work for and alongside the person I now accept has all along been a lying, cheating reckless sociopath. It is with sadness I can no longer work with this madman.

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Originally Posted by grunt

But worse for us because of Brexit.

Labour didn't spend £10billion on buying useless PPE from their friends, or give £4billion away in fraudulent furlough claims. Nor did they oversee a Brexit which resulted in the UK suffering an annual drop of £100billion in GDP.

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Stunning that some people still won't say brexit was bad, never mind one of the worst self inflicted moves a nation has done to itself.

Gdp will be hammered for decades, inflation higher than it would be, pound weaker which increases fuel prices, which increases inflation and repeat..

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

Stunning that some people still won't say brexit was bad, never mind one of the worst self inflicted moves a nation has done to itself.

Gdp will be hammered for decades, inflation higher than it would be, pound weaker which increases fuel prices, which increases inflation and repeat..

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It’s nothing more than gaslighting to say otherwise.

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Originally Posted by grunt

Mark Steel summarising all those Tory MP's resignation letters

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They are rats leaving a sinking ship, why has it taken until now for them to do something. Tory MPs don't have a conscience, just self interest

Resignations left, right and centre. The point of no return has almost certainly been reached.

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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7

They are rats leaving a sinking ship, why has it taken until now for them to do something. Tory MPs don't have a conscience, just self interest

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The primary function of the Conversative Party is to maintain the rule of the Conservative Party and, by extension, the political and upper class they support (i.e. socialism for the rich). Johnson is prioritising himself and refusing to allow this to happen which is why they're all losing their ****.

monica lewens...i mean Princess nut nut for PM please, with Nodding Dug Dorries deputy

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Point still stands.

He was hugely popular when first elected. He still is to a certain degree, with the public.

It’s why Labour and you guys are so pleased to see the back of him. He was likely to lead the Conservatives to another landslide and Starmer wouldn’t stand a chance against him.

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https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

You're absolutely wrong on how popular your leader is with the public!!!

https://scontent.fman1-2.fna.fbcdn.n...TA&oe=62CA00C1

The ONLY people who can honestly still be supporting Boris must be Independence supporters who see the increasing division and blunder this idiot is causing and want it to continue.

Nobody who understands politics at any level can say with any honesty that they think he's doing, or has done, a good job.

Seeing people suggesting he's 'done well on the big things' is equal parts hilarious and sickening. He's a criminal who is responsible for the unnecessary deaths of tens of thousands of people, who has shattered the economy with his Brexit activities (or lackthereof) and who has made us a laughing stock and paraiah nation with the clear intent to violate international law.

Surely there's a remote island somewhere where Boris and his supporters can be shipped off to while the rest of us try and pick up the ****ing pieces.

parliamentary private secretary Duncan Baker has resigned from the government, becoming the 28th MP to do so since yesterday

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Originally Posted by matty_f

It’s nothing more than gaslighting to say otherwise.

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How?

Do a google search on gaslighting. I’ve just done it and in no way can you attribute that to me.

To say otherwise is hugely insulting and totally uncalled for.

Made it easy for you….

Gaslighting is a form of psychological manipulation in which the abuser attempts to sow self-doubt and confusion in their victim's mind. Typically, gaslighters are seeking to gain power and control over the other person, by distorting reality and forcing them to question their own judgment and intuition

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/politics/trackers/boris-johnson-approval-rating

You're absolutely wrong on how popular your leader is with the public!!!

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My leader??? Bugger off.

Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.

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Originally Posted by Sylar

Surely there's a remote island somewhere where Boris and his supporters can be shipped off to while the rest of us try and pick up the ****ing pieces.

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preferably without internet access, only wind-up merchants and the deranged think he's the bee's knees

Douglas Ross now says Johnson should go. I've lost count of how many times he has changed his mind about Johnson's leadership since January. And yet we're not allowed to have another referendum because we've possibly changed our minds?

johnson struggling for the answer to how many ounces in the pound

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

preferably without internet access, only wind-up merchants and the deranged think he's the bee's knees

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Don’t like what you’re reading? Might as well start burning books!!

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Nah.

Labour know they can’t beat Boris.

Check the glee on their faces just now, they can’t believe their luck.

They don’t stand a chance against him and are 100% reliant on him being forced out.

I know I can’t prove this, but I still think he is popular through the country. It’s only the media that’s really turned against him.

It’s not like any of you guys ever liked him so it doesn’t really matter what he does.

If there was a general election tomorrow, with Boris at the helm, he’d still be PM on Thursday.

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Are you talking about Boris Becker or Boris Johnson?

You can’t seriously be arguing that after all that’s gone on over the past few years that it’s only the media that aren’t best pleased with Boris. The public are in actual outrage at him and rightly so.

If his corrupt tory chums starting to turn on him (on top of everything else) doesn’t suggest anything negative to you in that regard then I think you’re right… it doesn’t really matter what he does.

I kind of hope you’re at the wind-up though.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Don’t like what you’re reading? Might as well start burning books!!

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i beg your pardon ?

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

My leader??? Bugger off. Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

I think on the important stuff - Brexit, Covid, Ukraine - he’s been excellent.

I like his vision for the future and his enthusiasm ... He wasn’t like other politicians in that he could say things we didn’t like to hear but would accept them from him.

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Right.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

The cost of living /inflation thing is an issue for every government in the world.

Not sure we can lay the blame on Boris or the Uk gov for it and I dread to think what Labours plans would be. They’re useless with money in the good times, let alone the bad!!

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Global inflation rates? UK is 9.1% Switzerland is 3.4% even India is lower than the UK.

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Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875

i beg your pardon ?

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If you don’t like the ridiculous things he’s posting about Boris Johnson then you might as well burn all the stuff you do enjoy from writers you respect.

Something like that.

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

My leader??? Bugger off.

Once again you’ve confused me someone else. I’m not a member of any political party.

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You are certainly giving him all your support though? 🤔

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

Global inflation rates? UK is 9.1% Switzerland is 3.4% even India is lower than the UK.

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Yeah, We can all google “which country has lowest inflation” just to try and make a point.

If you’re an economist and want to put some meat on the bones and explain the intricacies of the Indian economy, go right ahead.

Otherwise, what point are you making?

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Originally Posted by WhileTheChief..

Yeah, We can all google “which country has lowest inflation” just to try and make a point.

If you’re an economist and want to put some meat on the bones and explain the intricacies of the Indian economy, go right ahead.

Otherwise, what point are you making?

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I thought you made the point about inflation.. what’s wrong with someone offering stats?

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Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns

You are certainly giving him all your support though? 🤔

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Not really.

just chewing the fat with a few posters.