Hibs transfer rumours

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Originally Posted by GreenPJ

Do you honestly believe that we will bring in (on top of the 3 already announced) an additional 6 players and then bring in more in Jan? Whether its needed or not is a different question but I would have expected Pat to have put a case to Rod to say that this size of overhaul is probably a 2 or 3 window job.

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Truthfully, no.

What I'm saying is, this is what we need - talk of us leading the challenge to Celtic next season (McPake in the Record) or making the top half of the SPL are woefully premature IMO.

We've signed a couple of reasonable defenders and a midfield player from SFL One - provided Pat has done his homework, good.

Pat is talking about other signings - good.

But right now he's operating with a skeleton staff; at last count the squad was as follows:

Goalies - Mark Brown (who I understand hasn't yet agreed terms?) and Paul Grant (very inexperienced).

Defenders - Tim Clancy, James McPake, Paul Hanlon, Pa Kujabi, Sean O'Hanlon (who has been told he can look for another club), Scott Smith (very inexperienced), David Stephens, and Callum Booth (who's hardly played since the early part of last season).

Midfielders - David Wotherspoon, Jorge Claros, Danny Galbraith, Lewis Stevenson, Ivan Sproule, Isaiah Osbourne, Sam Stanton, and now Paul Cairney. Of those the only 2 I'd say were reasonably consistent last season were Osbourne and Stevenson; Claros and Wotherspoon didn't impress, Galbraith hardly played, Ivan was mainly used as a sub, and not terribly successfully IIRC, Sam Stanton's brand-new and very inexperienced, and Paul Cairney, who is to most of us an unknown quantity.

Strikers - Eoin Doyle, Ross Caldwell, and (looking less and less likely by the minute) possibly the all-singing, all-dancing, star of stage and screen, Garry O'Connor.

Even with the three new guys, that's a bottom-six squad and if we're unlucky with injuries, we're in deep, deep doo-doo.


Using only signed players, I think we're looking at a team like this - Grant; Clancy, McPake, Hanlon, Kujabi; Wotherspoon, Cairney, Osbourne, Stevenson; Doyle and Caldwell. Reserves are wafer-thin.

This isn't about whether we can afford to sign players - we can't afford not to. And since we're in this position thanks to the leadership of the White Knight and the Great Helmsman Rod, it's they who need to sort this out - or at least give Pat F the resources to sort it out.

If they DON'T sort it out, we're in real trouble.

Heard today we're definitely after Shiels and GOC may get another 1 year deal.

If my info is correct GOC has been a good lad re drinking/drugs are concerned this past year, yes his fitness was an issue after xmas/new year but is PF van get a good pre season in him he is still talented enough to score 15+ goals for us in this league, something we need and has bags of experience.

I wasn't happy when he threw his medal away like a wee kid in a strop but at least it showed that 2nd place was not good enough for him and especially the way we lost it.

Id be absolutely ecstatic if we nabbed Dean Shiels!... A goalscoring midfielder that can thread through a pass like butter through a knife, An honest willing hardworknig grafter of a lad, Yes please.

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Originally Posted by HibbyAndy

Id be absolutely ecstatic if we nabbed Dean Shiels!... A goalscoring midfielder that can thread through a pass like butter through a knife, An honest willing hardworknig grafter of a lad, Yes please.

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That certainly sounds Hibs class! :wink:

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Originally Posted by jc1

Heard today we're definitely after Shiels and GOC may get another 1 year deal.

If my info is correct GOC has been a good lad re drinking/drugs are concerned this past year, yes his fitness was an issue after xmas/new year but is PF van get a good pre season in him he is still talented enough to score 15+ goals for us in this league, something we need and has bags of experience.

I wasn't happy when he threw his medal away like a wee kid in a strop but at least it showed that 2nd place was not good enough for him and especially the way we lost it.

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Big IF there JC1.

What about the lad Jennings from Motherwell? Or was that just silly paper talk?

My mate fae the Evening News told me that Lubo Michalik is signing tommorow!

Usually reliable source, he told me kujabi was signing last season.

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Originally Posted by mon the cabbage

My mate fae the Evening News told me that Lubo Michalik is signing tommorow!

Usually reliable source, he told me kujabi was signing last season.

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If true, it seems like Fenlon has done something that recent managers have failed to do, and build a team based on a settled defence.

If Michalik is coming in then I wonder where Paul Hanlon is fitting in?

Shiels I would take back in a heartbeat. Creative player who knows where the goals are and arguably has his best years in front of him. We would be mad not to take an interest.

As for O'Connor, he has had more than his fair few chances and continues to let people down. Time to move on. I'm completely unconvinced that he would get himself into the required shape. Furthermore, his actions after the cup final were unforgivable. No thanks.

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Originally Posted by Billychaotic182

What about the lad Jennings from Motherwell? Or was that just silly paper talk?

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We'll see him at Easter Road soon.........He's Going to Huddersfield I think......or Sheffield Utd

Great news on Lubo if true :top marks

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Originally Posted by matty_f

If Michalik is coming in then I wonder where Paul Hanlon is fitting in?

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Left back.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

If Michalik is coming in then I wonder where Paul Hanlon is fitting in?

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Fighting for his place hopefully like everyone else.

Hanlon has potential but we have been far too poor at the back for some time and changes were crucial.

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Originally Posted by too_many_djs

If true, it seems like Fenlon has done something that recent managers have failed to do, and build a team based on a settled defence.

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To be accurate, he hasn't done it yet, but at least he seems to have grasped the principle and started the process in motion.

BUT WE NEED ANOTHER GOALKEEPER. (Even if Mark Brown re-signs.)

And we need strikers - I'd rather not O'Connor, but providing he stays clean and fit ...

And the midfield is very poor.

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Originally Posted by mon the cabbage

My mate fae the Evening News told me that Lubo Michalik is signing tommorow!

Usually reliable source, he told me kujabi was signing last season.

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You sure?

Seems to be a lot of ex-players names being linked. I'll add another one. Filipe Morais been released by Oldham, according to Sky Sports.

I think Hanlon may depart the club this summer. He has a lot of admirers and along with Spoony may decide his future lies elsewhere.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

If Michalik is coming in then I wonder where Paul Hanlon is fitting in?

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Defensive midfield?

He was apparently a midfielder as a youth.

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Originally Posted by andrew70

I think Hanlon may depart the club this summer. He has a lot of admirers and along with Spoony may decide his future lies elsewhere.

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I'd be happy if that's what they both decided. We'd live.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

I'd be happy if that's what they both decided. We'd live.

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As would I. 2 decent players with great potential but perhaps it's time for both parties to go separate ways. Certainly not irreplaceable. I have heard Fulham, Blackburn and West Ham are interested in PH.

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Originally Posted by andrew70

As would I. 2 decent players with great potential but perhaps it's time for both parties to go separate ways. Certainly not irreplaceable. I have heard Fulham, Blackburn and West Ham are interested in PH.

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If true about other parties then I wonder what they see in our player that some of our fans don't?

Surely with those bigger clubs sniffing about we should be proud to hold onto PH rather than saying we can live without him? :aok:

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Originally Posted by andrew70

As would I. 2 decent players with great potential but perhaps it's time for both parties to go separate ways. Certainly not irreplaceable. I have heard Fulham, Blackburn and West Ham are interested in PH.

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Yeah, well maybe they have the time to let him develop for a few years, we don't!

I've never been in favour of playing young centre halfs or keepers. It takes years to learn a trade there and what you get is inconsistency and mistakes. Then, when they become half decent they go away and give their best years elsewhere.

I'd stick older, experienced players in those positions every day of the week.

You'd have to be able to find plenty that could perform to the level of Hanlon every week no problem?

Would take Deano back in a heartbeat, head and shoulders above the dross we had in midfield last season.

G O'C ... could care less to be honest. they way he lumbered about up front in the last half of the season was sympomatic of everything that was wrong with us. If he lost a stone and added half a yard of pace I would think differently.

Griffiths ... nae chance he will return ... based on no information, just cant see it.

Also couldnt care less if Spoony goes, a good player in there, but another one who has forgotten how to move at more than half pace, has looked unfit for over a year now.

Of all the things that killed us last year it was the inability of our team to move themselves and the ball quickly and that must change.

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Originally Posted by matty_f

If Michalik is coming in then I wonder where Paul Hanlon is fitting in?

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Hopefully he isnt fitting in for me. No offence or wanting another PH debate but I hope his future lies elsewhere and he would go with my best wishes.

Got a feeling he will stay tho

I have a funny feeling that PH will prove his doubters wrong this season. There is no doubt he is a better player when McPake plays along side him. People seem to forget he is still relatively young. There was a real confidence issue around ER last season that even the most experienced of players found difficult to handle. Let's get Deano back on board, bring in a tough tackling midfielder a new keeper, and two strikers and jobs a good un! I appreciate this may prove difficult in the current financial climate, but needs must and it's now or never.

GGTTH COYI

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Originally Posted by SneakersO'Toole

Shiels I would take back in a heartbeat. Creative player who knows where the goals are and arguably has his best years in front of him. We would be mad not to take an interest.

As for O'Connor, he has had more than his fair few chances and continues to let people down. Time to move on. I'm completely unconvinced that he would get himself into the required shape. Furthermore, his actions after the cup final were unforgivable. No thanks.

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Grant Stott tweeted that Dean Shiels has had informal talks about a return to hibs .

Tweeted that this morning .:pray: would be a fantastic signing.

ggtth

Suspect that Grant Stott knows as much of what's going on as I do.

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Originally Posted by erin go bragh

Grant Stott tweeted that Dean Shiels has had informal talks about a return to hibs .

Tweeted that this morning .:pray: would be a fantastic signing.

ggtth

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Aye, after reading it here no doubt.

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Originally Posted by ancient hibee

Suspect that Grant Stott knows as much of what's going on as I do.

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I suspect he knows more than you :wink:

ggtth

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Originally Posted by erin go bragh

I suspect he knows more than you :wink:

ggtth

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Oh no he doesn't(copyright Babes in the Wood).

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Originally Posted by erin go bragh

Grant Stott tweeted that Dean Shiels has had informal talks about a return to hibs .

Tweeted that this morning .:pray: would be a fantastic signing.

ggtth

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It must be true then ;)

Who's next?I've heard a whisper about Ofay Rhumer a striker from Ur Athletic.

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Truthfully, no.

What I'm saying is, this is what we need - talk of us leading the challenge to Celtic next season (McPake in the Record) or making the top half of the SPL are woefully premature IMO.

We've signed a couple of reasonable defenders and a midfield player from SFL One - provided Pat has done his homework, good.

Pat is talking about other signings - good.

But right now he's operating with a skeleton staff; at last count the squad was as follows:

Goalies - Mark Brown (who I understand hasn't yet agreed terms?) and Paul Grant (very inexperienced).

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You forgot to mention Callum Antell. A top prospect by all accounts. Not sure if this season is too soon for him but I'd like to see what he can do in pre-season.

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Originally Posted by PJ IronHIbee

I have a funny feeling that PH will prove his doubters wrong this season. There is no doubt he is a better player when McPake plays along side him. People seem to forget he is still relatively young. There was a real confidence issue around ER last season that even the most experienced of players found difficult to handle. Let's get Deano back on board, bring in a tough tackling midfielder a new keeper, and two strikers and jobs a good un! I appreciate this may prove difficult in the current financial climate, but needs must and it's now or never.

GGTTH COYI

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Agreed. Hibs cannot afford to keep letting good young players leave. PH is a talented young defender who is still learning. He was a much better player with McPake next to him and he will develop into an ever present. Ive not idea why others seem to want to dump talent and sign up players from the 2nd division. As a club we need to be developing not buying.

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Originally Posted by jc1

Heard today we're definitely after Shiels and GOC may get another 1 year deal.

If my info is correct GOC has been a good lad re drinking/drugs are concerned this past year, yes his fitness was an issue after xmas/new year but is PF van get a good pre season in him he is still talented enough to score 15+ goals for us in this league, something we need and has bags of experience.

I wasn't happy when he threw his medal away like a wee kid in a strop but at least it showed that 2nd place was not good enough for him and especially the way we lost it.

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He seemed to have a smashing old time that night though. Obviously gutted wasn't he, judging by the pics of him half-cut and celebrating. Yup, gutted.

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Originally Posted by bingo70

He was definately out getting smashed after the cup final. If this new team is really going to have a new attitude then do we really need or want that kind of carachter in it?

If we sign GoC then my opinion is that this whole new attitude thing is just a marketing slogan and nothing else.

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Totally agree.

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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin

He seemed to have a smashing old time that night though. Obviously gutted wasn't he, judging by the pics of him half-cut and celebrating. Yup, gutted.

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Where did you see said pics?

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Originally Posted by HibbyAndy

Where did you see said pics?

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I think someone took them off twitter and posted on here?

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Originally Posted by goldenhibby

I think someone took them off twitter and posted on here?

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Ive nae doubt Gaz was out on the lash but 'celebrating' ??..Cmon, Im no buying that..I got wrecked and had a few laughs with my mates after the cup final tae, I was defo laughing as i needed cheering up.. Now if someone had snapped a pic of me at the time smiling when my mate told me his sister fancied me the picture could tell a thousand stories.

GOC had a bevvy the night of the final disaster, Shock horror, Hang um.

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Originally Posted by tamig

You forgot to mention Callum Antell. A top prospect by all accounts. Not sure if this season is too soon for him but I'd like to see what he can do in pre-season.

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Calum's just turned 20. That makes him a year older than Paul, so I suppose right now he's our back-up to Brown (assuming Brown intends to re-sign)

I would really rather not be depending on two lads 19 and 20 years old as our goalies this season. We need to sign at least one experienced quality keeper - more likely two, if MB leaves.

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Originally Posted by HibbyAndy

Ive nae doubt Gaz was out on the lash but 'celebrating' ??..Cmon, Im no buying that..I got wrecked and had a few laughs with my mates after the cup final tae, I was defo laughing as i needed cheering up.. Now if someone had snapped a pic of me at the time smiling when my mate told me his sister fancied me the picture could tell a thousand stories.

GOC had a bevvy the night of the final disaster, Shock horror, Hang um.

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I'm not pro/anti Gaz, only posting what I can remember

Ill chuck in Gary Twigg.

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Calum's just turned 20. That makes him a year older than Paul, so I suppose right now he's our back-up to Brown (assuming Brown intends to re-sign)

I would really rather not be depending on two lads 19 and 20 years old as our goalies this season. We need to sign at least one experienced quality keeper - more likely two, if MB leaves.

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Calum doesn't turn 20 until next January.

So he's a decent back-up given the games under his belt and I would agree that we need to sign a good keeper as our first choice No.1.

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Originally Posted by HibbyAndy

Ive nae doubt Gaz was out on the lash but 'celebrating' ??..Cmon, Im no buying that..I got wrecked and had a few laughs with my mates after the cup final tae, I was defo laughing as i needed cheering up.. Now if someone had snapped a pic of me at the time smiling when my mate told me his sister fancied me the picture could tell a thousand stories.

GOC had a bevvy the night of the final disaster, Shock horror, Hang um.

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Spot on, Andy.

If you had taken photos at the right moments at the wake after my mother's funeral, you could have portrayed me as happy.

Believe me, I wasn't.

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Originally Posted by HibbyAndy

Ill chuck in Gary Twigg.

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The 'Tache better turn over a new leaf with his spending, otherwise he'll be getting a fair bit of stick.

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Calum's just turned 20. That makes him a year older than Paul, so I suppose right now he's our back-up to Brown (assuming Brown intends to re-sign)

I would really rather not be depending on two lads 19 and 20 years old as our goalies this season. We need to sign at least one experienced quality keeper - more likely two, if MB leaves.

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In saying that, how old was Gordon when he was thrown into the Hertz team? If they're good enough they're old enough. I wouldn't feel at all confident going into the new season with Brown as the No 1.

Anyone heard anything on the Lithuanian winger we were possibly going to get back in to assess? I have a feeling he could be a superb signing!

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Originally Posted by HailHail1875

Anyone heard anything on the Lithuanian winger we were possibly going to get back in to assess? I have a feeling he could be a superb signing!

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I think he would of signed in Jan but he wasn't fit enough, I don't think his ability is in question just his fitness. That shouldn't be an issue if he gets a pre season behind him.

Paul Hanlon is a good solid player and I dont know why people are criticising him, Hanlon will not be leaving the club this window but if he did he would go on to prove all of you doubters wrong, he will do that if he stays aswell. Sol Bamba, Riccardo Vaz te both great players that some clueless supporters thought were not good enough for Hibs.

Most people get all excited about new players they havent seen before yet they want players that were good at Hibs out.

I hope Paul stays and starts next season!!

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Originally Posted by mon the cabbage

Paul Hanlon is a good solid player and I dont know why people are criticising him, Hanlon will not be leaving the club this window but if he did he would go on to prove all of you doubters wrong, he will do that if he stays aswell. Sol Bamba, Riccardo Vaz te both great players that some clueless supporters thought were not good for hibs.

Most people get all excited about new players they havent seen before yet they want players that were good at hibs out.

I hope Paul stays and starts next season!

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Hanlon is average at best in my opinion and his awareness is pretty poor for a CB. Saying that I'm not wanting him out. I hope McPake can help him progress into a player who is more commanding. His best years are still ahead and can only get better with the right guidance.

Hanlon has been very poor but did show signs of recovery with jamsie McP keeping him right.

Lacks pace, and very rarely gets a clearance more than twenty yards whether by head or foot. Would rather see him at left back but still worries me there as he is so indecisive.

Saying that I'm prepared to give him another chance to see what he can do if we get a settled back four

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Originally Posted by Aldo

I think he would of signed in Jan but he wasn't fit enough, I don't think his ability is in question just his fitness. That shouldn't be an issue if he gets a pre season behind him.

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I wonder if we'll get him back in to do a pre season. Hope so..

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Originally Posted by BEEJ

Calum doesn't turn 20 until next January.

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Doddie, I'll retract that statement as I've just seen Calum Antell's DoB on the official website as June 1992.

The Hibees Mad website has it down as January 1993. :eyes:

I hope we can get Deano back at Hibs, Fenlon in talks with him.

Would be outstanding to get Sheils back at Easter Road! He already showed last season that he still has bags of ability (possibly even more than when he was with us before). Him and Cairney centre midfield? YES PLEASE! Make it happen Pat

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Originally Posted by Littlest Hobo

I hope we can get Deano back at Hibs, Fenlon in talks with him.

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Lets hope we can get this done.

Add Deano, another midfielder (of the big and mental variety), 2 strikers, another CB (Lubo) and probably a goalie.

Then I'll be a happy chap

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Originally Posted by SouthMoroccoStu

Lets hope we can get this done.

Add Deano, another midfielder (of the big and mental variety), 2 strikers, another CB (Lubo) and probably a goalie.

Then I'll be a happy chap

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Does he even have to be big? As long as he asserts his authority who cares? (Jody Morris, Ian Black)

IMO we need a LB, CB, experienced pro CM, a versatile attack minded player, a winger, at least 1 striker and a goalie or two.

EW GK

Clancy - McPake - Hanlon - Kujabi

New RW - Cairney - New DM - Booth

Shiels

New TM

5 Signings and im pretty happy.

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Originally Posted by tamig

In saying that, how old was Gordon when he was thrown into the Hertz team? If they're good enough they're old enough. I wouldn't feel at all confident going into the new season with Brown as the No 1.

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Ideally, we sign a good keeper - someone we can depend on, who isn't injury-prone, someone with plenty experience and hopefully the ability to pass that experience on to Paul and Calum.

I don't think it's too good an idea to go into the season relying on one keeper just out of his teens, and one still in his teens, to provide the last line of the defence match-day by match-day. Not given the present circumstances of the club. Not ever, TBH.

I appreciate the point about good enough being old enough - IIRC Iker Casillas made his debut in Real's first team at the age of 17, and played in - and kept a clean sheet in - the 2000 CL Final when Real beat Valencia 3-0. He was first choice I think for the following season, but lost his place the next season (2001-02), He had to go on as sub when Sanchez was injured towards the end of the CL Final 2002, and played so well to keep Bayer Leverkusen out that he's been first choice ever since.And Nihel Spink got HIS big break for Aston Villa in the 1982 European Cup Final, subbing for Jimmy Rimmer after tean minutes and keeping a clean sheet.

(That was the Des Bremner Final, actually. I would rather talk about real keepers than about the Plooky Wonder, tamig.)

But I do think it's a different thing to come into the Real Madrid side - bearing in mind the quality of their back-four defenders compared to ours - than to be the last man in the defence of an SPL side going through all sorts of crises, a side whose fans have become proverbial for their abuse of their own goalkeepers both on the net and at the games.

Would YOU like to see Paul or Calum getting the treatment from the morons if or when he makes a mistake?

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Originally Posted by Doddie

Ideally, we sign a good keeper - someone we can depend on, who isn't injury-prone, someone with plenty experience and hopefully the ability to pass that experience on to Paul and Calum.

But since I got my arithmetic wrong, we have two keepers still in their teens, and I don't think it's too good an idea to go into the season relying on them to provide the last line of the defence match-day by match-day.

I appreciate the point about good enough being old enough - IIRC Iker Casillas made his debut in Real's first team at the age of 17, and played in - and kept a clean sheet in - the 2000 CL Final when Real beat Valencia 3-0. He was first choice I think for the following season, but lost his place the next season (2001-02), He had to go on as sub when Sanchez was injured towards the end of the CL Final 2002, and played so well to keep Bayer Leverkusen out that he's been first choice ever since. (I would rather talk about a real keeper than about the Plooky Wonder, TBH.)

But I do think it's a different thing to come into the Real Madrid side - bearing in mind the quality of their back-four defenders compared to ours - than to be the last man in the defence of an SPL side going through all sorts of crises, a side whose fans have become proverbial for their abuse of their own goalkeepers both on the net and at the games.

Would YOU like to see Paul or Calum getting the treatment from the morons if or when he makes a mistake?

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I'm quite certain we have let Stack go so we can sign a new keeper.

We've also enquired about Pernis and Cerny and so we are looking.

1 of each flavour still to come I believe.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

I'm quite certain we have let Stack go so we can sign a new keeper.

We've also enquired about Pernis and Cerny and so we are looking.

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:agree: That's my understanding, Andy. I just want to see the guy signed and working with the squad.

Like the midfield players and strikers we need, too. :devil:

bit.ly/NZE3It:thumbsup:

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Originally Posted by Speedway

1 of each flavour still to come I believe.

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Whcih flavour?

Can't click on that link.

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Originally Posted by Leishy1995

Can't click on that link.

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Well copy and paste then :rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by Meeko

Well copy and paste then :rolleyes:

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:hilarious

We're not all techno-wizards you know............ :greengrin

Great news though if true and we get our man. One of the few players we released that has demonstrably improved since he left.

Would be a major, MAJOR asset in a team that had all the creativitiy and subtlety of a brick to the face last season.

There you go kiddies.

http://www.hibernian-mad.co.uk/news/...84/index.shtml

Do they actually have any inside knowledge or is it just a case of reporting whats in the media?

Would really like to see Deano back at hibs. I think he has matured (in a football sense) a lot since his last time at hibs and his performances at Killie have been very impressive.

Available for free, goal scoring midfielder who is capable of sublime moments, POTY nominee, already has an affinity with Hibs and the support.

Chances of getting better are remote to say the least.

I would love to see him back.

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Originally Posted by bernz

Do they actually have any inside knowledge or is it just a case of reporting whats in the media?

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Does he?
None whatsoever in my view and I have made this point a few times that it's purely a rehash of newspaper stories.

I'd pay more attention to the boy who posted on the bounce yday that he'd spoken to Dean and he didn't think the time was right to rejoin Hibs.

I hope he's wrong mind!

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Originally Posted by DC_Hibs

Does he?
None whatsoever in my view and I have made this point a few times that it's purely a rehash of newspaper stories.

I'd pay more attention to the boy who posted on the bounce yday that he'd spoken to Dean and he didn't think the time was right to rejoin Hibs.

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I dont know, thats why im asking :wink:

Hope so :pray:. I'd cream myself if it happens. No Rangers, McPake signed and Deano back, I wish Scottish football was finished years ago :hilarious. Starting to look forward to the new season already :thumbsup:.

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Originally Posted by bernz

Do they actually have any inside knowledge or is it just a case of reporting whats in the media?

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Yes.


In my experience that's not a terribly dependable website.

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Originally Posted by Stevie Reid

Available for free, goal scoring midfielder who is capable of sublime moments, POTY nominee, already has an affinity with Hibs and the support.

Chances of getting better are remote to say the least.

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I forgot to add that he always showed up against the Jambos, even at Tynie.

Hurt them as a Killie player too.

Dean Shiels would be a good signing, he seems to have got better since he left us based on his performances last season and getting a regular game has helped him but to get the best out of him he would need decent players around him and we would need to play the right sort of system. You never know, if he was there to provide a bit of creativity, it would allow Osbourne/Stevenson/Claros (I've not given up on him yet!) to sit in front of the defence and do want they are good at without them having to create.

Perhaps a 4-2-3-1 formation with DS in the centre or on the right of the forward three would work well.

Part of me thinks we will struggle to get DS as other teams may offer more money and at 27 this is a big contract for him. On the other hand, twice he was available last season and twice he went to Killie when you may have thought he would have had better offers in England. Maybe nobody decent down there wanted him. Unless the lure of playing for his dad was worth more than money to him.

Don't get the excitement over Cairney's signing and the potential pairing of him and DS. I am guessing that not many Hibs fans know anything about Cairney and have we not learnt from recent times not to get too excited about players we know next to nothing about. Lets just see how he gets on before getting too excited about him. The jury is still out on Fenlon's ability to sign good players too. McPake apart, I can't think of anyone he has signed that has made an impact.

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Dean Shiels would be a good signing, he seems to have got better since he left us based on his performances last season and getting a regular game has helped him but to get the best out of him he would need decent players around him and we would need to play the right sort of system. You never know, if he was there to provide a bit of creativity, it would allow Osbourne/Stevenson/Claros (I've not given up on him yet!) to sit in front of the defence and do want they are good at without them having to create.

Perhaps a 4-2-3-1 formation with DS in the centre or on the right of the forward three would work well.

Part of me thinks we will struggle to get DS as other teams may offer more money and at 27 this is a big contract for him. On the other hand, twice he was available last season and twice he went to Killie when you may have thought he would have had better offers in England. Maybe nobody decent down there wanted him. Unless the lure of playing for his dad was worth more than money to him.

Don't get the excitement over Cairney's signing and the potential pairing of him and DS. I am guessing that not many Hibs fans know anything about Cairney and have we not learnt from recent times not to get too excited about players we know next to nothing about. Lets just see how he gets on before getting too excited about him. The jury is still out on Fenlon's ability to sign good players too. McPake apart, I can't think of anyone he has signed that has made an impact.

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Other than Doyle scoring key goals in the Scottish cup. O'Donovan with an important one in the cup and at Killie, Soares getting a couple at Killie. Doyle, Doherty and Soares playing key roles in beating Dunfermline and Doherty and Kujabi helping McPake in providing a more secure defence.

Nope, not sure what impact the signings made overall.

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Other than Doyle scoring key goals in the Scottish cup. O'Donovan with an important one in the cup and at Killie, Soares getting a couple at Killie. Doyle, Doherty and Soares playing key roles in beating Dunfermline and Doherty and Kujabi helping McPake in providing a more secure defence.

Nope, not sure what impact the signings made overall.

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I wouldn't have O'Donovan or Soares back at Hibs anytime soon. Kujabi is an absolute nightmare defender.

Dwain Chambers interested in signing for rangers.

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Don't get the excitement over Cairney's signing and the potential pairing of him and DS. I am guessing that not many Hibs fans know anything about Cairney and have we not learnt from recent times not to get too excited about players we know next to nothing about. Lets just see how he gets on before getting too excited about him.

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I base my initial opinion on comments from various Partick fans who in my mind will have a better idea than most.
From what I have read, he can play a bit but is also willing to get stuck in. His goalscoring record last season also was very impressive.

I also believe the gap between the divisions isn't too great and Utd have shown players from lower leagues can make the step up up easily.

Do you feel better now Gully?

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Hands up who else Googled that JUST TO MAKE SURE it was bollocks??

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Hands up who else Googled that JUST TO MAKE SURE it was bollocks??

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1 of each flavour still to come I believe.

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I asked about your we tip about Jennings today, yes Hibs had made contact regarding him on a move to Hibs, he wants to go back down to England to play his football. :aok:

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I wouldn't have O'Donovan or Soares back at Hibs anytime soon. Kujabi is an absolute nightmare defender.

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I probably wouldn't have either back either, but compared to what we had, they came in and each made some impact. O'Donovan less so granted.

Kujabi done well overall and when we played against teams who have had threats on the wing he has done well.

The cup final is evidently allowing him to be the new scape goat though.

He is better than we had and helped improve that defence, which was a total shambles previously.

Kujabi did have a nightmare in the Cup Final, wasn't helped by the midfield system Fenlon played,[ too narrow allowing both of their wingers too much room to operate in,] however, Kujabi is recieving way too much blame for the humilation, there were another 9 players on the pitch that were just as bad, [ the exception being McPake], hope that he is given time to prove himself, both by the manager and us fans, He is a good player who had a bad C/F.

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Kujabi did have a nightmare in the Cup Final, wasn't helped by the midfield system Fenlon played,[ too narrow allowing both of their wingers too much room to operate in,] however, Kujabi is recieving way too much blame for the humilation, there were another 9 players on the pitch that were just as bad, [ the exception being McPake], hope that he is given time to prove himself, both by the manager and us fans, He is a good player who had a bad C/F.

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Agree with this, kujabi did well in the majority of games I seen him (apart from THAT free-kick)

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I asked about your we tip about Jennings today, yes Hibs had made contact regarding him on a move to Hibs, he wants to go back down to England to play his football. :aok:

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Cheers Silv, that gets my chat to pish ratio down to a respectable 95%

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Other than Doyle scoring key goals in the Scottish cup. O'Donovan with an important one in the cup and at Killie, Soares getting a couple at Killie. Doyle, Doherty and Soares playing key roles in beating Dunfermline and Doherty and Kujabi helping McPake in providing a more secure defence.

Nope, not sure what impact the signings made overall.

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Wow, forgot Doyle scored a goal against Killie and one against the might of Cowdenbeath in the cup. That reassures me. 1 SPL goal in half a season too. Hand him a 7 year deal. Actually though I am willing to give him a chance as there appears to be something there but his impact has been limited thus far.

If Doyle, Doherty and Soares had played key roles played key roles against some of the other teams we would not be highlighting their key roles in two games so much would we.

Soares was terrible for Hibs though it has been said he might not have been fully fit when he was here.

O'Donavan scoring against Ayr United is not really making an impact.

Kujabi and helping make a defence secure are not words that should appear in the same sentence.

Still say McPake is the only Fenlon signing to make a solid impact.

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OK, maybe I should have changed my post to significant impact.

Wow, forgot Doyle scored a goal against Killie and one against the might of Cowdenbeath in the cup. That reassures me. 1 SPL goal in half a season too. Hand him a 7 year deal. Actually though I am willing to give him a chance as there appears to be something there but his impact has been limited thus far.

If Doyle, Doherty and Soares had played key roles played key roles against some of the other teams we would not be highlighting their key roles in two games so much would we.

Soares was terrible for Hibs though it has been said he might not have been fully fit when he was here.

O'Donavan scoring against Ayr United is not really making an impact.

Kujabi and helping make a defence secure are not words that should appear in the same sentence.

Still say McPake is the only Fenlon signing to make a solid impact.

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Without all those contributions we'd have likely been closer to relegation and out the cup at first time of asking so they made the impact they were intended to.

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Cheers Silv, that gets my chat to pish ratio down to a respectable 95%

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He must be potty!

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What he said!

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He must be potty!

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Only Loo-sers would get that joke.

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Only Loo-sers would get that joke.

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just like that the ratio is restored :greengrin

From BBC Gossip:

Leigh Griffiths has been dropping hints on Twitter that he would like a return to Hibernian, where he was on loan last season. (Sun)

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Would be outstanding to get Sheils back at Easter Road! He already showed last season that he still has bags of ability (possibly even more than when he was with us before). Him and Cairney centre midfield? YES PLEASE! Make it happen Pat

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I was never tuned in to the Deano adulation when he was a Hibs player but must admit that he was a very impressive player last season and if he could reproduce that form for us then I'd welcome him back to ER.

Can't see it happening though.

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Kujabi done well overall and when we played against teams who have had threats on the wing he has done well.

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Really? I must be watching a different game to you, i am not for making him a scapegoat in the final, that was down to inept tactics and performance ont he park, however various games i watched he was done in time and time again by average wingers/wide players. The two that spring to mind are the final obviously (where he got a right roasting) and the league game vs Dunfermline (end of season) where despite the scoreline both Kujabi and Doherty showed their weaknesses (defending). Again there was a lack of cover but in a 1v1 situation neither are particularly good imo and teams constantly seem to be able to deliver in to our box from wide areas.