Depression and anxiety

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Not been involved personally and it contains no feedback but there is a description of a CCBT course of treatment for gambling disorders below CWG.

The system employs some telephone counselling at certain junctures to review progress I understand.

I'm not for or against it particularly and have similar thoughts about CBT in general as yourself. I've heard anecdotally of a few positive outcomes and reviews via a couple of IAPT counsellors I know.

I suppose the slight cynic in me senses a whiff of money-saving about it but I wouldn't want to dismiss it either. I find that most of my clients have too many complex needs to make a CCBT course apt for them.

https://www.gamcare.org.uk/get-suppo...ine-treatment/

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Originally Posted by stu in nottingham

Not been involved personally and it contains no feedback but there is a description of a CCBT course of treatment for gambling disorders below CWG.

The system employs some telephone counselling at certain junctures to review progress I understand.

I'm not for or against it particularly and have similar thoughts about CBT in general as yourself. I've heard anecdotally of a few positive outcomes and reviews via a couple of IAPT counsellors I know.

I suppose the slight cynic in me senses a whiff of money-saving about it but I wouldn't want to dismiss it either. I find that most of my clients have too many complex needs to make a CCBT course apt for them.

https://www.gamcare.org.uk/get-suppo...ine-treatment/

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Thanks for that, Stu.

The only reviews I have seen (of the system I am looking at) are on the provider's website, and of course they are going to be positive. They are along the lines of it's .... convenient, anonymous, stigma-free, sense of control, flexible.

I can understand all of that, and they're decent arguments. But, I want to hear what not's good about it, so that I can decide whether it's appropriate for the people that want to use it, or whether the deficiencies can be overcome. (I always look at the bad reviews on Trust Pilot first:greengrin).

Other than the (presumed) argument that it's impersonal, and doesn't allow for those moments in a therapy session where things take a 90degree turn into something unexpected..... I can't see the problems, but I know they must be out there.

As an aside, the provider is the contractor for the NHS throughout the UK, so I look forward to an independent review soon. :rolleyes: Either that, or some journalist telling us that the CEO is the cousin of a Cabinet minister. :greengrin

On the CBT note, I noticed this on hotdealsUK
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cog...amazon-3589696

Free CBT kindle book
It seems to get good reviews/feedback on amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086WQ5J7Q

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On the CBT note, I noticed this on hotdealsUK
https://www.hotukdeals.com/deals/cog...amazon-3589696

Free CBT kindle book
It seems to get good reviews/feedback on amazon https://www.amazon.co.uk/dp/B086WQ5J7Q

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May download that mate. :aok:

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

And I just wanted to post the above because the last post I made out and shat it. I’m looking at a wardrobe and got a belt and really really fancy it.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

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Please phone the Samaritans mate

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I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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Please phone the Samaritans mate

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Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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Pick up the phone mate - dial anyone. 999, your doctor, your mum, Samaritans - anyone. Talk it over. Doesn't have to be like this. Your daughter/children will need a father alot more than a few grand insurance money. Think of them.

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I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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Mate, your children need their dad more than they need an insurance pay out.

Take a deep breath, think about it and phone 999. There are crisis teams on call who can help you through this, same as any other medical emergency.

I know it's hard and feels hopeless, so many of us on here do but you are not alone. PM me if you need to chat.

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Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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Money is no replacement. These kids won't look and see a bank balance, they'll look and see they're missing their dad. Please call someone

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

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PM sent.
Your a son and a father. Hang in.
Go for a walk, phone someone. Whatever it takes until the feeling passes.... and it will.

Where do you live are you in Edinburgh area i can come right now and talk to you I've been there thank god i didnt

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m am just now really really really suicidal

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The guys are reaching out to you.
Post briefly to let us know you are safe.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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Take all the advice and assistance being offered to you on here mate.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

Nah. I’m far deeper than that pal.

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You're not - speak to someone asap, you can PM me and I'll PM you my number if it helps.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Ive had CBT and benefitted greatly from it, a few years back. Very basically its the process of changing negative thoughts to more positive thoughts.
Sadly, its transpired that Im ill again and am actually starting another course this afternoon although sadly its not face to face.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

And I just wanted to post the above because the last post I made out and shat it. I’m looking at a wardrobe and got a belt and really really fancy it.

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Please phone someone mate

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Originally Posted by kaimendhibs

Ive had CBT and benefitted greatly from it, a few years back. Very basically its the process of changing negative thoughts to more positive thoughts.
Sadly, its transpired that Im ill again and am actually starting another course this afternoon although sadly its not face to face.

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It worked for you before, so you're already well-armed to do it all again. :agree:

When you say not face-to-face, do you mean it's with a therapist online, or is it an online course that you take yourself?

Its with a therapist arranged by my employer

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Its with a therapist arranged by my employer

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Ok, by Zoom or similar?

From my side of the fence, the therapist, the process works just as well as F-to-F. In some cases, it's even better, as the client is in their own environment, and often able to relax more.

That said, it works best when the client is comfortable with the whole notion of the remoteness.

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Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod

Does anyone have any experience with CCBT (Computerised Cognitive Behavioural Therapy)?

I'm in the middle of trying to get to grips with one particular system. I'm not a huge fan of CBT itself, but I do understand how it works for many. This program takes that one stage further, and allows a patient/client to go through a CBT process online, either supported or unsupported.

At first sight, it seems self-evident as to how it works. However, I'm looking to get some anecdotal evidence, either from a client or a supporter. There's not a lot of opinion out there , other than 1 academic study that I have found.

Any thoughts would be welcome.

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Done a 8 week course with CBT earlier this year, which has made a big difference to myself and in life in general.

They ask you questions of how you feeling each week and discuss any negative thoughts you're having.

Todays is a normal phone call but future sessions will be either zoom or other video call. Previously CBT really pulled me back from the brink but ive relapsed. Without getting into detail on here a lot of my issues have been caused by personal tragedy

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has anyone spoken to 90+2?

mate if you're reading this, I echo what everyone has said! I deal with people in crisis daily in my job, I've thankfully never suffered past feeling low but I see the impact daily.

I've also had to tell families the worst news and trust me, suicide is the worst news you can break to any family. suicide is brave but fighting back and fighting on is much much braver when you feel like it's on top of you.

reach out, any one of us are hear to listen, phone 999 and ask for someone to come. just don't do anything daft because one day your kids will ask why. it's much better if they ask why didn't you and you can say "because I loved you too much".

reach out and please be safe.

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has anyone spoken to 90+2?

mate if you're reading this, I echo what everyone has said! I deal with people in crisis daily in my job, I've thankfully never suffered past feeling low but I see the impact daily.

I've also had to tell families the worst news and trust me, suicide is the worst news you can break to any family. suicide is brave but fighting back and fighting on is much much braver when you feel like it's on top of you.

reach out, any one of us are hear to listen, phone 999 and ask for someone to come. just don't do anything daft because one day your kids will ask why. it's much better if they ask why didn't you and you can say "because I loved you too much".

reach out and please be safe.

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I’ve exchanged a few texts earlier. :agree:

Not really my place to go into it but think he’s ok at the moment.

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I’ve exchanged a few texts earlier. :agree:

Not really my place to go into it but think he’s ok at the moment.

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excellent news.

hopefully he's back posting soon.

if you read this mate, glad to hear youre trying. keep going and message me anytime.



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I’ve exchanged a few texts earlier. :agree:

Not really my place to go into it but think he’s ok at the moment.

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Good stuff, well done for reaching out, I'm glad to hear he has been in contact, although I don't know 90+2 I have been concerned and hoping he is ok, I don't know the right or wrong thing to say but keep talking to people, you have support on here if you need to talk, tommorow is a new day

I scribbled on my blog a few minutes ago. A fairly aimless post to be fair, but it might ring true with a few. I think it’s just that time of year...

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...el-a-bit-****/

I've kept up with this thread for a long time but never posted, partly because it can be difficult at times to talk about these sort of things in a public forum, and partly because everything I could say has been put so well by everyone else on here.

However, as someone who's dealt off and (primarily) on with severe anxiety and depression for well over a decade, I sincerely hope 90+2 is feeling better now and getting the help he needs. It can be, and is, a ****ing awful thing to cope with.

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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee

I scribbled on my blog a few minutes ago. A fairly aimless post to be fair, but it might ring true with a few. I think it’s just that time of year...

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...el-a-bit-****/

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Another good read.

I think sometimes we downplay the small things. With my mental health I often search for the big cause. Why do I feel like this sometimes? It must be some huge reason and it frustrates me that I don't understand it, I almost find it insulting. Truth is I think it is just as likely to be a culmination of small things. Dark nights, cancelled plans, a ***** year...... Fair enough the last one is pretty ****ing big.

It's a miserable time at the moment. I think even those who are coping well with all that is going on would find it hard to argue otherwise. Maybe it is setting us up to really appreciate the small things when this all blows over though. We'll inevitably slip back into complacency but for a while all the things we took for granted will be amazing.

It's no secret i have ongoing health issues, been contacted by a few poster and im grateful. Tomorrow I have a series of tests at hospital and possibly an overnight stay although I doubt that due to to the current situation and beds are at a premium. The current weather and darkness is affecting me more than previous years, never bothered me previously but this year added to my health issues I'm struggling. I can relate to the posters who have no access to their kids, I haven't seen my wee girl for months and miss her so much, long story short all the rules are being dictated by her mum which kicking my erchie despite keeping on my maintenance payments I feel helpless. I do get to talk to her and she randomly messages me but nothing replaces a cuddle

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It's no secret i have ongoing health issues, been contacted by a few poster and im grateful. Tomorrow I have a series of tests at hospital and possibly an overnight stay although I doubt that due to to the current situation and beds are at a premium. The current weather and darkness is affecting me more than previous years, never bothered me previously but this year added to my health issues I'm struggling. I can relate to the posters who have no access to their kids, I haven't seen my wee girl for months and miss her so much, long story short all the rules are being dictated by her mum which kicking my erchie despite keeping on my maintenance payments I feel helpless. I do get to talk to her and she randomly messages me but nothing replaces a cuddle

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Hope everything goes well for you tomorrow, sir. The dark nights usually don't bother me too much but this year, on top of everything else, it's an amplification. Factor in that some places already have their Christmas lights on and it's a very weird time of year. Totally understand your pain at not seeing your wee lass, too. My 3 year old and wife spent 2 weeks isolating at my in-laws after a positive case at my daughter's nursery - those 2 weeks were pretty awful and I can't imagine a longer term absence. Is there anything you can do to get more access? It sounds like it would definitely help you.

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Hope everything goes well for you tomorrow, sir. The dark nights usually don't bother me too much but this year, on top of everything else, it's an amplification. Factor in that some places already have their Christmas lights on and it's a very weird time of year. Totally understand your pain at not seeing your wee lass, too. My 3 year old and wife spent 2 weeks isolating at my in-laws after a positive case at my daughter's nursery - those 2 weeks were pretty awful and I can't imagine a longer term absence. Is there anything you can do to get more access? It sounds like it would definitely help you.

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Thanks, I'm working on access but given my health issues I need to get better before I can have her here and totally get her mum's concern. I'm post stroke so confused and weak so I get it. Got to get sorted and prove I can look after myself to prove I can look after her. Strangely lockdown is giving me the time and space to get better, for a 5 year old she completely understands the situation

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’ll miss so so many people my children that I’ve not see since I left their mum eventually being treated like **** but the way I’m living is worse and people saying it will get better don’t know a **** if they’re missing their daughter in P1 and having to live with the guilt trip of doing everyone for them and it seems I’ve just deserted them. I’ve not now slept for two weeks 🤣🤣 she said I could meet her and my baby who is two yesterday after I was at the doctors in her area only to say nah I’m not man enough to tell my family I was meeting her even though I said I would take a video for my mum. I genuinely genuinely hate my life and only do so for my children and not to Upset my parents. I keep looking at how to end things now. At least I’ve life insurance for the children.

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mate, I know I’m late to this, but please please keep thinking of how much love you have for your children, and how much love they have for you.

reach out and talk to anyone, loads on here, me included, or anyone else, will absolutely be there to listen and talk. I saw later in the thread you’ve texted someone a few times, I’m so relieved to hear that, please keep doing that

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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee

I scribbled on my blog a few minutes ago. A fairly aimless post to be fair, but it might ring true with a few. I think it’s just that time of year...

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...el-a-bit-****/

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That's a good read well done can certainly relate to a lot of that especially this time of year.

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Originally Posted by Pedantic_Hibee

I scribbled on my blog a few minutes ago. A fairly aimless post to be fair, but it might ring true with a few. I think it’s just that time of year...

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...el-a-bit-****/

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A really good read. Lots of good points raised - especially beating yourself up about a routine you've set yourself.

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A really good read. Lots of good points raised - especially beating yourself up about a routine you've set yourself.

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I think as someone mentioned previously, often difficult to know whether you're saying the right or wrong things - but talking is better than silence and there are no (apart from the obvious!) right or wrong answers but I guess there's options. Sometimes the positive options are just there, known and then they appear to shrink or fade away, become less obvious. Reframing things and looking at things from different perspectives sounds great and can possibly help - it must be sooo difficult in the current lockdown situation where gaining such perspective is reduced with the lack of face to face access - although there are ways around that - but as also mentioned above no substitute for a hug.

I've been thinking about the darkness and how it affects most of us to varying degrees and with my wife not looking forward to this season - folks from other sunny places find this period a toughie - I got to thinking how to turn things into a positive - this just now trend and no substitute for people mind.

Well there's a thread on the PM board about Jupiter, Saturn and Mars - with the darkness comes viewing possibilities - and the earlier it gets dark the less time you have to wait to sit up for things.

I used to be keen on astronomy as a kid this re-ignited my interest, I also went fishing with my boy for the first time and actually caught a fish - first time on my own and only the second in my life. So thinking back to rediscovering passions from your youth that for one reason or not didn't materialise could be something to consider.

Orrabest people. And 90+2 wishing you all the best. Rest up sleep for Scotland hope you're back on a more even keel soon. Take care and know that there are people that don't even know you that do care and there's the foundation of your kid and family and friends. Theres bits of sunshine amongst the wind today - fresh, nice, Scotland. Might fit in another 3 seasons before the day is out!

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Had a wee word earlier yesterday Jimmy.

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I think as someone mentioned previously, often difficult to know whether you're saying the right or wrong things - but talking is better than silence and there are no (apart from the obvious!) right or wrong answer.s but I guess there's options.

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I was talking about this subject just yesterday in a team meeting with other practitioners. Even among professionals there can sometimes be some apprehension and lack of understanding on how to do this I find. In general I tend to be fairly direct about the subject with clients. I also think it's helpful to 'normalise' the subject and the thoughts people are having about it. We can say that the worst thing to do is say nothing. Couple of things here:

'Talking To A Suicidal Person
Here we encounter another great myth about suicide, the notion that talking to someone about their suicidal thoughts is somehow encouraging them to carry out the act. In these situations, it is important to begin a dialogue, to initiate a conversation about the subject. The conversation can include discussion about sources of help and assistance such as attending the GP or a therapist. It is wise to identify a help line such as The Samaritans and to keep that number in their phone or wallet/purse. An agreement can be made to follow up these actions with a future chat in which progress can be reported and reviewed.
I feel it’s better to be fairly direct with a person by asking similar to the following questions:

• How are you coping with your problems?
• Are you thinking about dying or hurting yourself?
• Have you made any plans to take your own life?

The latter – making the distinction between a person experiencing suicidal thoughts and one who is actually making the plans to do it is of high importance. This is not only for the helper/listener but also for the person themselves in understanding and clarifying their own situation a little better.'

https://stuartfrew.wordpress.com/201...cide-ideation/

I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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Really good to hear from you mate. Try not to feel embarrassed, remember the way this works here is that reading others' words is a help to others, it enables and encourages them to talk themselves and that can never be a bad thing. Please don't feel as though you need to provide an explanation of what's going on. If you feel you want to that's fine and good but do that if and when it feels good for you.

Simply this, I know I speak for many others here when I see you're still with us and talking a wee bit. Take your own good time with things and know that you've got a lot of support here. I can say it's a real lift to have you around.

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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Really glad to hear that nothing to be embarrassed about, the best and most bravest thing you could do by talking and acknowledging your feelings, I don't know you but you definitely had me worried for you, sounds from your message that you are in a better place, keep fighting mate and us hibbies are here for you

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance ��

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I've never met you or even crossed paths on here, but I feel compelled to post you a message of support. I can identify with your feelings and I really hope you turn the corner. I've found that these difficult times magnify previously small problems and puts a massive strain on everything.

3 points on Saturday would certainly lift the spirits :-)

Joking aside, I hope you're alright mate

GGTTH

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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Good to hear from you and, as others have said, there's nothing to be embarrassed about when you have the courage to admit you're not OK.

Of course you're right about Hearts...just don't get your hopes up for the BBC to do a propaganda fluff-piece documentary about you as well. :greengrin:

Utterly aimless but, here it is anyway.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...-man-on-a-bus/

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Originally Posted by The 90+2

I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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there’s no embarrassment in acknowledging you’re in a bad place, quite the opposite mate. It takes a lot of courage to say what you did, and I’m sure I speak for many on here that I was really glad to see you’d posted.

there’s always someone who will be there to listen, or to talk, or support you however you you need it, whether that’s here or elsewhere.

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Utterly aimless but, here it is anyway.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...-man-on-a-bus/

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I think most people who have read your posts on here over the years knew you had a bit of a way with words. However to write something like that off the cuff on the bus is a gift. I could sit with a blank piece of paper and a month of free time and would struggle to come up with anything that measures up.

I'm not sure if saying I 'enjoy' these is the right tunrn of phrase, there is some pretty serious subject matter but I find them gripping.

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I think most people who have read your posts on here over the years knew you had a bit of a way with words. However to write something like that off the cuff on the bus is a gift. I could sit with a blank piece of paper and a month of free time and would struggle to come up with anything that measures up.

I'm not sure if saying I 'enjoy' these is the right tunrn of phrase, there is some pretty serious subject matter but I find them gripping.

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I think most people who have read your posts on here over the years knew you had a bit of a way with words. However to write something like that off the cuff on the bus is a gift. I could sit with a blank piece of paper and a month of free time and would struggle to come up with anything that measures up.

I'm not sure if saying I 'enjoy' these is the right tunrn of phrase, there is some pretty serious subject matter but I find them gripping.

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Wow. Thank you. Coming from someone like yourself who I regard as my favourite and most worldly wise poster on here, that’s a delightful compliment to receive. I’m chuffed. Thank you.

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I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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Glad to hear you’re ok mate. You’re a brave man - absolutely nothing to be embarrassed about. I’m sure I speak for everyone on here when they say we’re all available should you ever need someone to talk to.

90+2, glad to hear you’re bearing up. I PM’d you yesterday however there’s no rush to read it nor respond. In fact you don’t even need to respond. Or read it for that matter.

Do things at your own pace and look after yourself, fella 💚

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I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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You have nothing to be embarrassed about, I wish you all the best and hope you get the help and support that you need and deserve.

Well done for speaking up.

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I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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Good luck to you mate.

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Utterly aimless but, here it is anyway.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...-man-on-a-bus/

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For anyone on here who is struggling and needs to do something to keep safe, the Edinburgh Crisis Centre is a great resource. They can offer telephone support and overnight accommodation. It’s somewhere I’ve had professional contact with and I rate them very highly. It’s a lovely place, with well trained staff. Access is informal, you don’t need a referral, you just call them

http://www.edinburghcrisiscentre.org.uk/wordpress/

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Utterly aimless but, here it is anyway.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...-man-on-a-bus/

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Read a couple of your articles and as PB says 'enjoy' isn't right but they are very readable. Keep it going.

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Utterly aimless but, here it is anyway.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...-man-on-a-bus/

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An enjoyable wee read that. 👍

Discharged and given a free ride home, Indeed, thank you NHS. 25 years I worked for them and they never fail to amaze me.
Lots of help out there, access it they genuinely care ❤

90+2 Glad you are ok but please still seek help. Take care

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Discharged and given a free ride home, Indeed, thank you NHS. 25 years I worked for them and they never fail to amaze me.
Lots of help out there, access it they genuinely care ❤

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I scribbled on my blog a few minutes ago. A fairly aimless post to be fair, but it might ring true with a few. I think it’s just that time of year...

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...el-a-bit-****/

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Good read mate

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I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance 👍

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Glad to hear you're feeling a bit better, never feel embarrassed to reach out mate, its far better to talk and discuss about how you are feeling rather than keeping it bottled up

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I’m very very happy (not the word) and appreciate all kind words and the messages I’ve been sent it’s so appreciated. Just now I’m a mixture of embarrassed to reply and don’t want to face up to it but also still just can’t kick feelings in my head that I’ve spoken to someone about. When your head convinces you dying is easier it seems a long long road back but I know there’s a lot of unfortunate people in worse positions than me. Look at hearts for instance ��

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As everyone else has said, no need for embarrassment. Flagging up how bad you were feeling was a smart and brave move. Good on ya.

Passing the time on a freezing cold bus.

There’s not much in the way of mental health in this post so I wasn’t sure whether to post it or not but what the hell.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...freaky-friday/

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Passing the time on a freezing cold bus.

There’s not much in the way of mental health in this post so I wasn’t sure whether to post it or not but what the hell.

https://alittlebitofdickie.wordpress...freaky-friday/

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Liked that a return to basics.

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I’m at the end of my tether. I’ll be honest, I’ve absolutely had enough.

Deleted all my social media this morning. I’ve just had enough and I can’t see a way out.

I’m not going to do anything before anyone worries, I’ve got two kids who need their dad so the thought of doing myself in hasn’t entered my head but I’m just scunnered.

My heart is irreparably broken and I struggle to see how I can ever look to own my own place and give my daughter the bedroom she needs and deserves. My alternative is to rent a place which will cost me the best part of £800-£900 a month and leave me with very little to be able to afford anything beyond my bills and basics.

It’s been building up all week and this morning its just hit me like a train.

I’ve got my daughter asking me to sit and play puzzles with her and I don’t even have the energy to do that. It’s ****ed.

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I know it isn't a solution to the fundemenatal problem but with regards to the living arrangements have you looked into mid market rent? It's significantly cheaper than private rentals in Edinburgh but easier to access than social housing. There are criteria for qualifying but essentially if you are working and not claiming housing benefit then you will have a decent shot.

I’m not as comfortable talking about it as other folk are, but it appears that a good few of us are going through similar stuff right now.

Hang in there folks.

Pedantic Hibee:

I know it’s on lockdown just now, but you’ve spoken about wanting to get your driving test passed. Once you’ve done that, could you look a bit further afield for somewhere new to stay, could well see the rent costs come down quite a bit, and having a car makes it easier to get your kids and bring them home

Pedantic Hibee

Just read your post and Im really sorry you are struggling so much. As said, if you pass your driving test you could commute into Edinburgh. I live in South Lanarkshire and it takes me 40/45 minutes to centre of Edinburgh.
My daughter has just moved into a rented flat here, 450 per month. Two bedrooms. Average rent between 400/500 per month.
The commuting not bad, Ive been doing it for 17 years now.
Good luck

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I am close to the end, no full time jobs done here and agency treat you like ****, get rid of you whenever they feel like it.

Back to unemployment.

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where are you mate? May be someone on here knows the area and of full time jobs.

It’s a horrible tough time, people are always here to talk, vent to, lean on

Thinking of everyone who is struggling right now. It can be either a great time of the year or a truly grim time. And this year much, much more so. Shortest day on the 6th or 8th Dec I think? I’m holding out for that and then clawing back to more daylight day by day.

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Thinking of everyone who is struggling right now. It can be either a great time of the year or a truly grim time. And this year much, much more so. Shortest day on the 6th or 8th Dec I think? I’m holding out for that and then clawing back to more daylight day by day.

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You'll need a couple of weeks more. It's the 21st :greengrin

It's a fair point, though. In recent years, I have looked forward to the Solstice more than Christmas. For me, it's the real celebration.

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Thinking of everyone who is struggling right now. It can be either a great time of the year or a truly grim time. And this year much, much more so. Shortest day on the 6th or 8th Dec I think? I’m holding out for that and then clawing back to more daylight day by day.

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The shortest day falls on 21st December.

Just a friendly suggestion, maybe try to think of those darker nights in a different way? I wonder if it would actually make it harder for you counting the days back in that way? Having a a little bit more acceptance of the darker nights, whilst sometimes difficult I know, might just be a bit more bearable/enjoyable than wishing the days and nights away.

The type of thing I'm meaning has lots of really good examples on the 'Autumn' thread where people talked about warm, cosy homes, warming winter dinners and the like. We have our football too.

At the end of this there is clear daylight imho. The more we yearn for that outcome that's on its way, the longer it may feel for it to come along. It's a little like standing watching and waiting on a kettle boiling.

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where are you mate? May be someone on here knows the area and of full time jobs.

It’s a horrible tough time, people are always here to talk, vent to, lean on

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I'm from corby town which is full of fake huns and Tim's, I was just feeling down but would never end my life for my mums sake and would miss hibs to much but thanks anyway.

What a crap 2020 for everyone.

I was having a really ***** day today. Loads of hassle at work which put me in a real stinking mood for the rest of the day. I snapped at my wife and found the wee one very difficult to deal with.

After she was in bed I did some weights and it’s like a cloud has lifted in my head.

I’m not pretending that me having a bad day is anything compared to what others are going through, but to me it showed me how important exercise is to my mental state, and I hope it helps others make wee changes that help them.

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The shortest day falls on 21st December.

Just a friendly suggestion, maybe try to think of those darker nights in a different way? I wonder if it would actually make it harder for you counting the days back in that way? Having a a little bit more acceptance of the darker nights, whilst sometimes difficult I know, might just be a bit more bearable/enjoyable than wishing the days and nights away.

The type of thing I'm meaning has lots of really good examples on the 'Autumn' thread where people talked about warm, cosy homes, warming winter dinners and the like. We have our football too.

At the end of this there is clear daylight imho. The more we yearn for that outcome that's on its way, the longer it may feel for it to come along. It's a little like standing watching and waiting on a kettle boiling.

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Great words Stuart, as always.
I dont suffer from depression but definitely anxiety, even though it took me a while to realise it.
I manage it, I think I have it from some sort of subservience in my head, weird I know .
Anyway, I'll probably speak for every other person.

Bring on the winter solstice!

There have been a few comments about how to talk to people in distress and be a good listener on the thread from time to time. I think people often have a genuine fear of saying the 'wrong' thing or simply not knowing what to say.

I liked some of the things listed in this article on the BBC site today. In particular, I like the fact that's it's very accessible advice for a layperson, you don't have to be a counsellor, psychotherapist or psychologist or any kind of professional to practice these things well.

How to be a good listener when someone opens up
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/ztfkbqt

Active listening techniques and reflecting people's words and thoughts are mentioned and very useful. There's also a bit about using technology for this purpose. Something that many of us are having to increasingly carry out these days.

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There have been a few comments about how to talk to people in distress and be a good listener on the thread from time to time. I think people often have a genuine fear of saying the 'wrong' thing or simply not knowing what to say.

I liked some of the things listed in this article on the BBC site today. In particular, I like the fact that's it's very accessible advice for a layperson, you don't have to be a counsellor, psychotherapist or psychologist or any kind of professional to practice these things well.

How to be a good listener when someone opens up
https://www.bbc.co.uk/bitesize/articles/ztfkbqt

Active listening techniques and reflecting people's words and thoughts are mentioned and very useful. There's also a bit about using technology for this purpose. Something that many of us are having to increasingly carry out these days.

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Good link.

The critical things for me are not offering advice. Not offering advice. Listening and asking open questions, not closed questions. Not being judgemental. Not being afraid to ask open questions about difficult issues, like suicidal thoughts. Reflecting back what you hear.

Most of all, the biggest thing is someone feeling that someone is there and actually listening or reading. Whether that is a thread like this or Samaritans, that is crucial.

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I was having a really ***** day today. Loads of hassle at work which put me in a real stinking mood for the rest of the day. I snapped at my wife and found the wee one very difficult to deal with.

After she was in bed I did some weights and it’s like a cloud has lifted in my head.

I’m not pretending that me having a bad day is anything compared to what others are going through, but to me it showed me how important exercise is to my mental state, and I hope it helps others make wee changes that help them.

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Exercise is what has kept me going this year.

My diet isn't great so I don’t look particularly different. But I feel a hell of a lot fitter than I did at the start of the year.

Think having a bit of competition (with myself) has helped keep the stresses of this year away from the front of my mind. Whether it’s running a certain distance faster or lifting something heavier, it’s definitely kept me on the straight and narrow.

Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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You’ve taken the first steps with this post mate, only friends here. Lots of people would advise speaking to someone about doing some cognitive behavioural therapy.

The first step is talking, well done 👍🏻

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Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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no need to apologise buddy, if there’s anywhere you can feel that a personal post will be safe, it’s this thread.

I hope that even the act of posting has helped a bit, and I would encourage you to talk, whether that’s to your wife, to a friend, family member, a service or even on here, it will help further.

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I am close to the end, no full time jobs done here and agency treat you like ****, get rid of you whenever they feel like it.

Back to unemployment.

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The toll unregulated capitalism takes upon individuals is very difficult to quantify, but it's clearly a massive issue. Millions of people in the UK alone are unprotected and feel isolated and worthless in the neoliberal economy. Keeping a large proportion of the population in constant fear and worry about making ends meet isn't just cruel but also counter-productive, for it wastes so much talent to the benefit short-sighted goals. We need an economic system which allows, as far as is achievable, each person to fulfil their potential whilst making a meaningful contribution to the greater good. We need to end the relentless pursuit of the bottom line for benefit of the minority at the expense of the aspirations of the majority. This requires economic democracy, so that everyone is involved in the decision making processes of what they produce. Political democracy without economic democracy is empty; the two go together.

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Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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Hi mate,

I've been through the same. I used to google everything that appeared in my mind constantly daily and it made me feel like a different person and make up different scenarios in my mind like I was this person or that person. One thing i do is write things down on my notes app on my iPhone whether I need to do something or check something then tick each thing off one by one. After I have ticked off that something I can move on and focus on the next thing I need to do/check.

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Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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Of all the posts on this thread this most describes my feelings. I found that being stuck in a rut made those feelings so much worse. The constant going over the worst case scenario in my mind was horrible. Sometimes you just need a change to make yourself feel better, it was hard for me to make that change but I’ve never looked back. Just remember you’re not alone in this fight, there’s plenty crazy hibees to help you when it matters.

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Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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Firstly no apology needed. The beauty of this thread is the people on it. Severe or chronic anxiety is pretty awful, I know from personal experience. A couple of things do help. Writing things down that are causing the thoughts can help and then revisit to see if the worst did happen. Also write down the good things as well. Sometimes I find that helps “rationalise” things. Secondly, if you can take lots of exercise. That helps “switch” off and breaks the thought patterns and you feel better after. Thirdly, I found alcohol bad for this. Finally remember to be kind to yourself. Self compassion is hugely important, treat yourself as you would a close friend or family member who was going through it. We are all going through extraordinary times, the full impact of which we probably don’t fully know yet, so take it easy on yourself if you can.

Thanks everyone, will try all the things suggested. I have spent a long time meaning to do something about this but just allowed myself to keep suffering.

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Mel Robbins’ 5 Second Rule is a great tactic. It’s about being bold, courageous and basically just getting things done without worrying or talking yourself out of it.

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Thanks everyone, will try all the things suggested. I have spent a long time meaning to do something about this but just allowed myself to keep suffering.

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Small steps mate, I hope you find a way out of this. :aok:

The parrafin lamp pub in Livingston - which is a good boozer but often gets a bad press - are doing free meals on Christmas Day for anyone struggling to feed the family or at simply alone and lonely.

Still have some spaces. It's on their Facebook page.

Nice touch by them.

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Hard post for me this one, never opened up before. Not actually sure what I’m hoping to achieve by posting tbh, I’ve always managed to cope before but I don’t feel I can anymore.

I seem to worry constantly about everything, things most people wouldn’t give a second thought. I keep imagining things going wrong at every opportunity and I’m making myself miserable. I’m existing in a life of someone who is down on their luck and is going through the mill when I actually have so much to be grateful for, especially considering how this year has been for so many plus it’s actually started to affect my physical health. Being aware of this makes me feel even more stupid and down on myself. It’s slowly gotten to the point where I keep having to check and double check things to make sure I’ve not made a mistake or forgotten to do something but even after doing that I still get preoccupied worrying that I’ve forgotten to do things.

I’ve been battling this for a long time but it’s just got so tiring now, I need to try and arrest the slide because I’m barely keeping my head above water. Days like today where a small thing, which I can’t change and isn’t really that big a deal, but I’ve been obsessing over it all day. It’s made me feel on edge, grumpy around my family and I feel like I’m in a daze while the day is passing me by. My kids are young and I want to enjoy watching them grow up rather than always having this cloud. I’ve been trying to keep busy so I don’t think about it but I’m constantly getting 10 steps ahead of myself imagining the worst.

I don’t feel I can seek any help because I worry about the repercussions. Sorry for the long post.

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Hi high bee, good for you for getting this off your chest, I hope that's helped a little bit just to unload. I'll echo others' sentiments in that I believe it's a good and supportive place to do that.

Firstly to say, I wouldn't presume to diagnose what your problem is here but I wonder if i could offer a few words of info and advise? I get the feeling that you're maybe a little bewildered about these behavioural things you describe and I can understand that, they probably don't seem to make any sense to you. For me though, I think they sound very much like Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD)..

OCD is one of several forms of anxiety disorders such as Generalised Anxiety Disorder (GAD), Specific Phobias, Post Traumatic Stress Disorder (PTSD) and so on. It's sometimes characterised by people feeling stigma and shame from it with the consequence that they struggle to open up about it and get help.

It is very treatable is the good news. Things that can help are any of, or a combination of counselling, medication such as SSRI (family of anti-depressents), Anxiety disorder support groups and a bit of self-help. For the latter we're talking about exercise, monitoring alcohol, stress relieving activities and spending quality time with family or friends, (possibly difficult I know at the moment).

The first thing to do is talk to your GP. Apart from any direct support he is able to give you think about the GP as a gate-keeper to obtaining further help that might help you such as a referral to counselling. I find that Cognitive-Behavioural Therapy (CBT) can be a good 'fit' for this type of disorder and anxiety orders in general.

I hope that all helps a bit. Just one more point, you mention not seeking help because you 'worry about the repercussions'. I just wondered what you might think these repercussions might be? It's important to know that your treatment will be treated confidentially between you and your GP/therapist. Could you enlighten me if there's anything else that I might be able to allay your fears about in that regard?

Some further info about OCD
https://www.heretohelp.bc.ca/infoshe...lsive-disorder

Good luck!

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The parrafin lamp pub in Livingston - which is a good boozer but often gets a bad press - are doing free meals on Christmas Day for anyone struggling to feed the family or at simply alone and lonely.

Still have some spaces. It's on their Facebook page.

Nice touch by them.

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That’s wonderful

I subscribe to a newsletter penned by Sam Delaney, a podcaster who co-hosts Top Flight Time Machine. I`ve not had the need to seek guidance on mental health before, nor have I read this thread, but I`m aware of this threads presence and the help, comfort and advice many appear to gain from it. Not sure if this is appropriate content or not, and Delaney might not be everyones cup of tea, but might be of interest to some who can identify with it and may like to subscribe for the regular emails. Basically he describes it as such - " This letter shares advice, tips and personal experiences on mental illness, addiction, recovery, anxiety and generally resetting your demons. It also shares fun tips on enjoying life too."

The latest newsletter - https://samdelaney.substack.com/p/th...tm_source=copy


As I said, I`m not a contributer to this thread but just thought this might be worth sharing.

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I subscribe to a newsletter penned by Sam Delaney, a podcaster who co-hosts Top Flight Time Machine. I`ve not had the need to seek guidance on mental health before, nor have I read this thread, but I`m aware of this threads presence and the help, comfort and advice many appear to gain from it. Not sure if this is appropriate content or not, and Delaney might not be everyones cup of tea, but might be of interest to some who can identify with it and may like to subscribe for the regular emails. Basically he describes it as such - " This letter shares advice, tips and personal experiences on mental illness, addiction, recovery, anxiety and generally resetting your demons. It also shares fun tips on enjoying life too."

The latest newsletter - https://samdelaney.substack.com/p/th...tm_source=copy


As I said, I`m not a contributer to this thread but just thought this might be worth sharing.

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I subscribe to that as well, it’s excellent - great recommendation.

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Originally Posted by Carheenlea

I subscribe to a newsletter penned by Sam Delaney, a podcaster who co-hosts Top Flight Time Machine. I`ve not had the need to seek guidance on mental health before, nor have I read this thread, but I`m aware of this threads presence and the help, comfort and advice many appear to gain from it. Not sure if this is appropriate content or not, and Delaney might not be everyones cup of tea, but might be of interest to some who can identify with it and may like to subscribe for the regular emails. Basically he describes it as such - " This letter shares advice, tips and personal experiences on mental illness, addiction, recovery, anxiety and generally resetting your demons. It also shares fun tips on enjoying life too."

The latest newsletter - https://samdelaney.substack.com/p/th...tm_source=copy


As I said, I`m not a contributer to this thread but just thought this might be worth sharing.

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That is a good read. Thanks for sharing.

I think today’s announcement, even though its not as bad as I feared, will sadly tip a lot of teenagers and young adults into a severe depression with some terrifying consequences.

Just following up that it appears that today two young men in Edinburghhave sadly decided they just can’t take any more.

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Just following up that it appears that today two young men in Edinburghhave sadly decided they just can’t take any more.

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That’s tragic, is there anything to link the two deaths to the extended lockdown decision?