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I have said this before. Unlike in the case of Rangers the only fans who really wanted Hearts to go totally bust were Hibs fans. That's nothing to do with the reporting of the case and everything to do with the nature of football rivalry.Quote:
Originally Posted by HIBERNIAN-0762;3989463[B
Salmond is not the villain in this story. Vladimir Romanov and his henchmen were the bad guys. I hate sticking up for Salmond.:greengrin)
What i'm now curious about is that BJ was always bleating on about running out of money by the end of April.
Now, miraculously, there's no mention whatsoever of any cashflow problems at all, nothing! BJ has said it could be mid June at the earliest before they can exit administration so how come they seem to suddenly have enough money to survive until then? Have i missed something along the lines and they've found money from somewhere or has BJ been very elaborate with the truth and just been playing games? :confused:
He's still a ****ing Jambo though. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by allmodcons
[QUOTE=allmodcons;3989439]Public record because it said so in the newspapers? How gullible are you?
That aside, where does it say he met with the Lithuanian President?
Do you seriously believe that Scotland's First Minister (a few months short of a historic vote on Independence) would offer inducements to another country's President in order to save Hearts from liquidation?
Easy target for you to vent your spleen because he's a "****ing fat Jambo" rite
Are you one of those Cyber Nats? because you have had a pop at me for having a personal opinion, which appears to be shared by others : 1. my terms of reference for information is the News and Newspapers..... so I am gulliable
2. It was made public in the media that Salmond had been in dialog with the Lithuanian Ambassador and president, I was not present, I was not privy to any conversation. However things appeared to accelerate after he appeared on TV saying he had spoken with these people.
3. I did not state that he HAD offered any inducement, read it again its says "Who knows if any promises or inducements ......."
I hold a personal opinion, which is my right..... I respect other peoples opinions and if necessary I will agree to disagree, but you appear unable to accept this. Oh again on a personal note I do not like Alex Salmond and this was just further examples why he would never get my vote.
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Originally Posted by marinello59
Oh God, this is going to turn into a Yes/No vote bicker again isn't it ?!
http://youtu.be/NXYNPO3zIj8
Not a Yes or NO bicker from me, just a personal opinion that I believe that Alex Salmond intervened to assist with the sale of the Jambos and their CVA......
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
Based on what?
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You are correct, I am one of those nasty CyberNats that you read about in the newspapers (daily mail et al) :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
You post (on a public forum) what, for me, is a pretty ridiculous opinion on the Yams avoiding liquidation and then complain when I choose to disagree with you. Is this not how a public forum is supposed to work?
On a personal note, I couldn't give a toss who you vote for, that's for the Holy Ground. I was merely making the point that this situation was not of Alex Salmond's making.
Salmond shouldn't be trying to help or getting involved with any business that has CHOSEN not to pay taxes etc. plenty other business's in Scotland who have fallen on hard times because of things like the recession never got the same help.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
He intervened successfully but it would be interesting to discover if it was due to him speaking to them or giving to them, and if the latter, what exactly were they given.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
The bit in bold and underlined...... He actually lobbied to try to help out both the Huns and Dunfie, so personally I believe what he says there.Quote:
Originally Posted by Berwickhibby
It is only my opinion, if you see that as hope fair enough.Quote:
Originally Posted by magpie1892
It was but h.m.r.c. agreed to trial it for a year with no enforcement for non compliance. That ran out on 6thApril 2014Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
But do you trust Politicians who are Lawyers ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jim44
please see above.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Extended until October.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
A few points need clearing up it seems.
1) Alex Salmond was not a factor in the decision. In fact the decision to ratify the shares came as much as a shock to Hearts and BDO as it did the rest of us.
2) Hearts could still be liquidated if the process lingers on for too long. Its unlikely but not impossible.
3) FOH and Budge are currently looking in to ways of helping Hearts financially now that a deal is all but completed. They couldn't do it before whilst there was no agreement in place but once that's all been made official they can.
4) The deal was NEVER going to be finished by Monday. That was media spin to give the Yams hope had we beaten them on Sunday. It wasn't needed in the end.
October 2014 ?
All it takes is one phone call from big Eck and it is a done deal, how lucky we are to have such a man in charge of our country. Just imagine the phone calls to London after we vote AYE. First on the shopping list will be we are having Berwick back. :greengrin
Yup.Quote:
Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
https://www.gov.uk/government/news/h...-rti-penalties
What about frozen shares? Nothing mentioned in the Hearts/FoH bunker then?Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
So based on nothing but wishful thinking, in spite of all available evidence to the contrary.
Fair enough, you're entitled to your view, no matter how illogical.
Since he's just expressed his admiration for Putin's leadership of Russia (clearly the sovereignty of some nations, like Ukraine, is less important than others) I wouldn't place a lot of faith in his judgment about much else, even "a few months short of a historic vote on independence".Quote:
Originally Posted by allmodcons
He's just supported Hearts walking away from debt in excess of £70 million. What's our quid pro quo? Zero.
There's a lot of businesses without say 40,000 supporters that would have liked the personal intervention of the First Minister during the last few years of the recession. Salmond and Murray - public servants, neither of whom represent Gorgie, but you'd be forgiven for assuming that they did.
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Originally Posted by One Day Soon
Well done, you just fell into the trap of believing newspaper headlines without checking the actual details.
Please read the article again and see what it actually says.
Thank you I did not know that.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
Indeed there is the crux of the problem.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
Apologies I did not make that clear. I believe, until the share certificates are actually delivered, they could still run out of money and if that is the case the big L looms.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
Salmonds ACTUAL words on Putin were the result of a series of questions on his views on world leaders and other politicians. Incidentally, the actual interview took place before the situation in Crimea developed.
'Asked about Mr Putin, Mr Salmond said: "Well, obviously, I don't approve of a range of Russian actions, but I think Putin's more effective than the press he gets I would have thought, and you can see why he carries support in Russia."'
He called him 'effective' but dissaproves of many of his actions.
'Pressed on whether he admires the Russian leader, the First Minister said: "Certain aspects. He's restored a substantial part of Russian pride and that must be a good thing. There are aspects of Russian constitutionality and the inter-mesh with business and politics that are obviously difficult to admire. Russians are fantastic people, incidentally, they are lovely people."'
So, his admiration extends to certain aspects of Putin, as a politician. He does not at any point say he has unreserved admiration for him.
Herald
That's some take on his comments regarding Putin ODS! A similar take to the front page of yesterday's Daily Mail.Quote:
Originally Posted by One Day Soon
With regard to other businesses, I think you'll find that most Governments do as much as they can to help ailing businesses.
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Originally Posted by Weststandwanab
OK, that's a bit different. However they don't seem to have mentioned running out of money again recently so I'm not convinced that's going to happen.
I personally think it's done and dusted and the only 'fly in the ointment' is they will most likely leave Administration too late to avoid a further points penalty.
Last I heard was Vlads arrest triggered something that allowed the transfer of his assets. I don't know the gory details though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
The arrest that wasn't an arrest.:rolleyes: The cess pit gets murkier and murkier.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bajillions
now your just letting the facts ruin someone else's story :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo
They have not but May pay day looms and if the shares are not delivered by then they could be in soapy bubble.Quote:
Originally Posted by keekaboo