Summer 2021-22 transfer thread

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Originally Posted by MyJo

Macey was signed to be our number one. He's played 8 competitive games for us and kept 4 clean sheets

He came in on a short-term deal at a time when Marciano was unavailable as we needed a strong keeper to replace him. When Marciano was available again he rightly went back into the team as our established number 1 and Macey was promised starts in the Scottish cup games in which he helped us get to the final, including winning a penalty shootout and saving a penalty in the final.

He only signed a longer term deal with it was confirmed Marciano would be moving on this summer and he would be first choice. He wasn't signed to be a back-up keeper and unless Dabrowski wants to go out on loan again then i doubt we will be signing another keeper as a priority.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on him as a player but to have written him off already and then overanalyse every single thing he doesn't do perfectly to support a negative view and agenda against him is wrong and does nothing to benefit the team. At least give him the benefit of the doubt until he has played a reasonable number of games for us.

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Excellent post

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

We’ve had one on trial last 2 development games, so we must be looking at one
If either of our 2 keepers get an injured, we won’t have a goalie on the bench

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Just keep Samson registered. How many times in history have we been down to a 3rd goalie because of injury? Its not worth it. There must be a keeper at u20 level or something who could sit on the bench?

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Originally Posted by MyJo

Macey was signed to be our number one. He's played 8 competitive games for us and kept 4 clean sheets

He came in on a short-term deal at a time when Marciano was unavailable as we needed a strong keeper to replace him. When Marciano was available again he rightly went back into the team as our established number 1 and Macey was promised starts in the Scottish cup games in which he helped us get to the final, including winning a penalty shootout and saving a penalty in the final.

He only signed a longer term deal with it was confirmed Marciano would be moving on this summer and he would be first choice. He wasn't signed to be a back-up keeper and unless Dabrowski wants to go out on loan again then i doubt we will be signing another keeper as a priority.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on him as a player but to have written him off already and then overanalyse every single thing he doesn't do perfectly to support a negative view and agenda against him is wrong and does nothing to benefit the team. At least give him the benefit of the doubt until he has played a reasonable number of games for us.

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That’s all your opinion though.

It is not a fact he was signed to be our number one. Read what Ross had to say about it.

I find it a bit odd that discussion about the goalkeeper seems to have to have an agenda against it. Bizarre.

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Originally Posted by B.H.F.C

If we get another keeper then there is unlikely to be much trust getting shown in Dabrowski. Don’t think it’s similar to Doig who became first choice in his position when he was 5 years younger.

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Similar in that we trust the manager to make the right call. Who is the last keeper we brought through?? Chris Reid??

The young lad who has been linked to man city must have something?? How old is he??

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Originally Posted by easty

Nonsense

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Fair enough, just goes to show how differently people see the game.

Honestly thought Oxley was pretty unspectacular, verging on being a poor goalie. Obviously not a defining characteristic of being a goalie, but I don't think Oxley made any memorable saves during his time. Whereas Macey has already in his handful of games - that penalty save in the final especially.

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Originally Posted by MyJo

Macey was signed to be our number one. He's played 8 competitive games for us and kept 4 clean sheets

He came in on a short-term deal at a time when Marciano was unavailable as we needed a strong keeper to replace him. When Marciano was available again he rightly went back into the team as our established number 1 and Macey was promised starts in the Scottish cup games in which he helped us get to the final, including winning a penalty shootout and saving a penalty in the final.

He only signed a longer term deal with it was confirmed Marciano would be moving on this summer and he would be first choice. He wasn't signed to be a back-up keeper and unless Dabrowski wants to go out on loan again then i doubt we will be signing another keeper as a priority.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion on him as a player but to have written him off already and then overanalyse every single thing he doesn't do perfectly to support a negative view and agenda against him is wrong and does nothing to benefit the team. At least give him the benefit of the doubt until he has played a reasonable number of games for us.

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Well said.

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Originally Posted by Brightside

What a load of pish. He’s playing at a higher level than any of us could dream.

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Absolutely right. I think James is actually a decent footballer, his goal against Alloa was stunning. He has however one major flaw,he has no pace at all and you can't be a fullback with that flaw. I do however think he could play the holding midfielder role, but probably not at our level.

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Originally Posted by brog

Absolutely right. I think James is actually a decent footballer, his goal against Alloa was stunning. He has however one major flaw,he has no pace at all and you can't be a fullback with that flaw. I do however think he could play the holding midfielder role, but probably not at our level.

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I've posted before that I thought he looked fine in the few games that he played for us. He didn't look very fast but he was comfortable with the ball.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

That’s all your opinion though.

It is not a fact he was signed to be our number one. Read what Ross had to say about it.

I find it a bit odd that discussion about the goalkeeper seems to have to have an agenda against it. Bizarre.

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I have read what Ross has had to say about it but i've also seen actions including Macey only signing on longer term once it was confirmed Marciano would be going. He wouldn't have signed for us to be a back-up so there must have been confirmation given to him that he would at least start the season as number one

JR sticking with him for the Semi & Final last season, if Macey wasn't going to be number one this season then there would be no reason for JR to have played him in those games where having our established number one in goals would have given us an advantage in trying to win the competition. Winning a trophy surely takes precedence over the feelings of a back-up keeper? Only reason to have done that was if he trusted and considered Macey our ongoing number one after Marciano left and to keep him happy going into this season.

And the fact he has been allocated the number 1 for the season. If he was just the back-up he would still be using the same number he had last season with the number 1 being saved for whoever we are signing as first choice. Same thing has happened to Doig, he is now established as a first choice player and has been given number 3.

Macey is fine in my experience of keepers. Logan had one incredible game for us. Largely hopeless in the rest and leaves a legend. Oxlely was a steady pair of hands but completely overshadowed by Logans heroics in the Dundee United game after losing his contact lens at Inverness, in my opinion he was far better than Logan. The boy Maxwell was slated by a lot of fans mainly because he wasn't Marciano, despite Marciano making far too many mistakes around that time. Bogdan imo was better than both of those two. Macey had done nothing wrong but folk were wanting Marciano in for the final despite him never having a good game for Hibs there and Macey getting all the cup games then going on to be the only Hibs player that day who could walk out of Hampden with their head held high. Now folk don't think he's a number one. The bizarre world of Hibs and goalkeepers. Give the guy a chance.

After Hibs history with goal keepers over the last decade or so I can’t believe we are actually being picky with a young keeper who I think will only get better. Like Porteous, Doig etc aye they will make mistakes but stick with them unless it’s clangers every week which it won’t be

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Originally Posted by SMAXXA

After Hibs history with goal keepers over the last decade or so I can’t believe we are actually being picky with a young keeper who I think will only get better. Like Porteous, Doig etc aye they will make mistakes but stick with them unless it’s clangers every week which it won’t be

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Exactly. Could have a Zibi or Simon Brown in goals.

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Originally Posted by MyJo

I have read what Ross has had to say about it but i've also seen actions including Macey only signing on longer term once it was confirmed Marciano would be going. He wouldn't have signed for us to be a back-up so there must have been confirmation given to him that he would at least start the season as number one

JR sticking with him for the Semi & Final last season, if Macey wasn't going to be number one this season then there would be no reason for JR to have played him in those games where having our established number one in goals would have given us an advantage in trying to win the competition. Winning a trophy surely takes precedence over the feelings of a back-up keeper? Only reason to have done that was if he trusted and considered Macey our ongoing number one after Marciano left and to keep him happy going into this season.

And the fact he has been allocated the number 1 for the season. If he was just the back-up he would still be using the same number he had last season with the number 1 being saved for whoever we are signing as first choice. Same thing has happened to Doig, he is now established as a first choice player and has been given number 3.

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That’s your interpretation of a number of different things, not facts.

We might not sign another keeper, that’s fair enough, but suspect we will be trying.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

That’s your interpretation of a number of different things, not facts.

We might not sign another keeper, that’s fair enough, but suspect we will be trying.

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Why do you suspect we will be?

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Originally Posted by easty

Have I, aye?

Where have I claimed somethings a fact? Where have I told someone they’re definitely wrong? I’ve given my opinions, that’s all. Is that not allowed?

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By all means carry on, I love reading your "opinions" you seem to have so many it's the shoot gun approach your bound to hit something sometime.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

That’s your interpretation of a number of different things, not facts. We might not sign another keeper, that’s fair enough, but suspect we will be trying.

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Sign another keeper and relegate debrowski to 3rd choice for me sends the wrong message, the guys had successful loan spells and different levels in the country and for me deserves the opportunity to fight for the position and get the cup ties as Macey did last year, what does it show the guys below debrowski in younger age groups if a guy who's followed the path set out by hibs doesn't even get an opportunity?

I take it Greggs is shut just now.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

That’s all your opinion though.

It is not a fact he was signed to be our number one. Read what Ross had to say about it.

I find it a bit odd that discussion about the goalkeeper seems to have to have an agenda against it. Bizarre.

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To be honest its you who normally brings up Macey being a back up keeper. Have to say it comes across like you have the agenda.

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Originally Posted by Billy Whizz

We’ve had one on trial last 2 development games, so we must be looking at one
If either of our 2 keepers get an injured, we won’t have a goalie on the bench

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I know we are trying to sign an American player but just don’t know if it’s this keeper or someone else.

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Originally Posted by Andy74

That’s your interpretation of a number of different things, not facts.

We might not sign another keeper, that’s fair enough, but suspect we will be trying.

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I'm not disagreeing, it is my interpretation of the way Macey's signing and time with us so far has been handled because I have zero knowledge of Jack Ross thoughts and opinions on the matter. In much the same way that your opinion is informed by your interpretation of those same things unless Jack Ross has shared his thoughts on Macey's status with you or there are some other facts that i'm unaware of that confirms what your saying about us actively looking for another first choice keeper.

The main concern i have is the overly negative approach to a player that, as things stand, will be our first choice keeper for the season when he has done very little wrong so far to deserve being written off as not good enough.

It's very hard for people to move from a pre-conceived negative opinion like that to a positive one, every little thing will be viewed as an error and evidence that supports the negative argument while he will have to perform miracles in order to come close to changing that opinion when the reality is he is human and a player at our level will never be perfect so it's unlikely that the negative opinion someone has already formed of him as a player will be changed.

That's the type of thing that can destroy a players confidence if they are reading it online and having it shouted at them in the stadium long enough and loud enough and it becomes a self-fulfilling prophecy.

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Originally Posted by Bangkok Hibby

To be honest its you who normally brings up Macey being a back up keeper. Have to say it comes across like you have the agenda.

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There’s an unusual amount of people who want to state that he is clearly going to be our number one keeper.

I just don’t think it is as clear as that. He’s here now and obviously played the cup games but the fact was that he was our second choice keeper last season.

It only seems to be this position that some people don’t appear to want to be open to improving. As it stands we are going with a player who wasn’t a first choice last season.

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Originally Posted by GreenCastle

I know we are trying to sign an American player but just don’t know if it’s this keeper or someone else.

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It’s an American who’s been playing in the development games, Ben Roach

Picture also looks like the person I saw at the games
https://www.ucsbgauchos.com/sports/m...roach_ben_a1mg

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Originally Posted by Andy74

There’s an unusual amount of people who want to state that he is clearly going to be our number one keeper.

I just don’t think it is as clear as that. He’s here now and obviously played the cup games but the fact was that he was our second choice keeper last season.

It only seems to be this position that some people don’t appear to want to be open to improving. As it stands we are going with a player who wasn’t a first choice last season.

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He was our second choice keeper because Rocky was our no1, Ross wasnt just going to bin Rocky but knew due the contractual issues he needed to bring someone in, Macey has done nothing wrong in his appearances so far, he earned his place when Rocky was injured and performed well. If he is No1 and Dabrowski his understudy then I will be happy with that, there are bigger concerns in the team to be worrying about Goalkeepers

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Originally Posted by Highwayman

Agreed.If Dabrowski is now not ready to move up to another level,he never will be.

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Could end up playing the cup games.

Can someone just make up some transfer news please

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Originally Posted by Greenworld

Can someone just make up some transfer news please

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Yip, this is boring and tedious!

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Originally Posted by dunfyhibby

Yip, this is boring and tedious!

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Welcome to football forums...this is a good one.

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Originally Posted by brog

Absolutely right. I think James is actually a decent footballer, his goal against Alloa was stunning. He has however one major flaw,he has no pace at all and you can't be a fullback with that flaw. I do however think he could play the holding midfielder role, but probably not at our level.

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James looks like he can play to me, but I’ve never figured out where he fits into a team.

He stands off his man too much, looks like he lacks pace and aggression in the tackle and that just won’t cut it at fullback in Scottish football. His touch is decent and he has a good shot on him.

If we’d stumbled across a formation that had Stevie Mallan and his shot as an integral part of it then James might be ok as an understudy to him.

As it is, it’s hard to see where he would fit into a decent Hibs team. If we were going into a season like last season with a very small squad then it might be worth having someone around who can play so many positions.

Ultimately though, if we’re serious about improving on a decent season then we just have to accept that he’s not good enough.

From what I am hearing we are talking to the goalkeeper from Sligo rovers.

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Originally Posted by Bridge hibs

He was our second choice keeper because Rocky was our no1, Ross wasnt just going to bin Rocky but knew due the contractual issues he needed to bring someone in, Macey has done nothing wrong in his appearances so far, he earned his place when Rocky was injured and performed well. If he is No1 and Dabrowski his understudy then I will be happy with that, there are bigger concerns in the team to be worrying about Goalkeepers

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So he was back up because we had a better keeper.

Goalkeeper isn’t a position we just settle for taking a chance on. I think looking at the team other than some more options up front and at the back it is crucial we get as close to the standard of keeper we had as possible.