Ditto. I don't want any part of this embarrasment.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
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Ditto. I don't want any part of this embarrasment.Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
If it's not true, I am sure someone will very quickly come out and say so tomorrow.
Hmm
Support 100%.
Won't be back if Newco get in to the 1st division. And if Rod Petrie is behind the plan or even supportive of it I will support any and all sack the board demos.
the baw is officially burst. was going to wait and see what came in before getting a season ticket but this plumbs new depths. spartans here I come.
If I was involved with the Edinburgh Ice Hockey or Rugby team I'd be preparing a marketing campaign to attract a fair few thousand pissed off fitbaw fans with time on their hands.
Yep - this carve up will kill Scottish football stone dead
So folks - apologies for skipping but isn't there an online poll for all supporters for all clubs SFA, SPL to vote ?Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibernia&Alba
Arab Spring folks remember social networking & internet power !!
We have won the first round, they are trying a second - we can still win for the good of scottish football and we can do this before they can even dine on succulent lamb .. :greengrin
Me too, but I want a fight before I give up and walk away!!Quote:
Originally Posted by HibbyAndy
Basically what has happened today has let everyone know that Scottish football has been no more than a circus for years,
Like the joke that the music industry has also become.
Sick cheatin B/.';,[s
Latest developments and the reluctance to kick Huns out of the league, shows what the SFA \ SPL think of the fans. And non old firm teams.
If you don't want to be part of a corrupt Scottish Fitba. I believe there is an alternative.
Pissed off fans should start a breakaway club. A new national league. Out of SFA control.
A new Hibs playing out of Meadowbank. A share in the new club would cost £10. Space for everybody.
Yeah it won't be easy. It wasnt easy back in 1875. Problems back then - bigotry and cheating. Nothing has changed and the year is 2012.
Hibs belongs to the fans. Not farmer and petrie.
http://www.spartansfc.com/2011-2012-...-ticket-sales/
Pretty good deal
I'm going back.
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Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
No they won't.Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
It already has done it.
Not bad. Maybe we can start a section 1?Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
If they were admitted to Division One with promotion denied to them for winning the title for two seasons then I would be fine with that. The money generated over that period for that division would infact help Scottish football. If it is a simple scenario of them getting straight back into the SPL after one season then I am out. I was going to attend more this season and take my daughter who is 7 along more often aswell, but I will not do so, if they squirm their way back into the SPL after just one measily season. Cheating is cheating, liquidation is liquidation they no longer exist, there is no Rangers just Newco!!!
TBF they might already have one, but I'm sure we would be welcome:wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by steakbake
I was about to propose plans to get additional revenue into Hibs.. but now if the club can't be bothered.. frankly I can't..Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
Disgusted at this latest news, I have watched Hibs for 48 years but this is worse than any defeat. I have already bought two season tickets for my sons but that will be my last contribution to Hibs if we vote Rangers in to the 1st division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlsberg
It'll be tattie bye bye for me as well if some fudged solution is created to allow Rangers into the 1st Division.
This is a con.
Either we the fans are being conned by our chairmen or someone at the BBC has been conned by an insider within the ibrox closet.
I dearly hope its the latter or I'll be drinking latte in a quiet cafe somewhere in town at Saturday 3pm, or Sunday 12:30, or Saturday 12:15 or Sunday ...
I did say "IF"...Quote:
Originally Posted by Greendrongo
It occurs to me that perhaps the majority SPL clubs were happy to vote no to the spewco in the guise of sporting integrity, punt the problem down to the SFL, knowing full well that the probability was they would end up agreeing to have them in division 1 for that inevitable one off ‘novelty’ season. In reality, I do wonder how pleased any of the SPL clubs will be if spewco end up in the 3rd.
Of course, the 3rd is where they should be (and where any other club would be already) but talk is cheap and 3 seasons without the income from games against the spewco will be expensive.
Now you can understand why so many clubs were comfortable saying No to the SPL vote, they already knew there was a compromise position in the offing. IMHO this is deceitful, shameful and despicable behaviour - you talk about Rangers cheating ?. Hibs and the other 5 who stated their intentions must have known all about this Div 1 stitch up, but not a hint of it, except from the Dons. If this goes through all the SPL clubs will rightly be vilified for it. The SFL & SPL clubs MUST oppose this latest stitch-up. Jees, they are all as slippery as 3rd car salesmen :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by MB62
Can see this happening as I doubt most of the SPL clubs will survive the season if the fans anger and threats come to fruition.
Glad I haven't stumped up my 400 sheets yet. If, and it's still an if, Hibs are in on this then they can say goodbye to my hard earned and, more importantly, my support.
Haha yep i knew you knew.Me in rant mode just now.I'm scared to be honest.Because if this goes through,i'll never see Hibs againQuote:
Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
I would rather Petrie spent his time working to make Hibs a better club and looking to make improvements to the playing staff than trying to engineer a morally and financially corrupt club's entry into SFL D1.
If he is trying to help the newhuns out then he should resign from Hibs IMO.
Sadly, I think we'll find out in the next few days that Petrie and the rest of the doormats are fully behind these proposals. I am disgusted that their unprincipled greed has led to the possible/probable rejection of the club and the game in general by a huge number of supporters. But why take the passive route and walk away? Why not fight back at these shysters and actively campaign for their resignation?Quote:
Originally Posted by Carlsberg
If the doomsday huns scenario comes true - would you support getting a new hibs?Quote:
Originally Posted by ScottB
I agree, it will stumble along for a while with those who will go no matter how much they are cheated, but in the end more and more will drift away.Quote:
Originally Posted by BroxburnHibee
I hope the people responsible for this are happy with themselves.:rolleyes:
The new ground we are all proud of, will have games played in front of a couple of thousand folk packed in the bottom tier of the FF.
The humiliation of the cup final last month is so much worse than Rangers getting into the 1st Division.Quote:
Originally Posted by inglisavhibs
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Originally Posted by Jim44
as i said in another post im starting to have my doubts. i always thought thr right thing would be done and rangers would end up in division 3. if they end up in division 1 i will find it hard to justify going back they may as well just vote them into the spl
I'm out too, after nearly 50 years following Hibs. Sad, sad dayQuote:
Originally Posted by Cabbage East
Thinking more about it, there is no way that RP can be part of this. He would know full well that everybody would be against it. Now that Milne has made his statement I reckon we will see similar from Hibs and Hearts tomorrow.
Even Rangers fan's don't want this. In fairness to them they pretty much seem to accept that div 3 is where they should go. Go to div3 as a new club and start form scratch and build up a bit of dignity. Anything else and Scottish football as we know it dies.
Right, I think the general consensus is that everyone is raging, so who do we vent this fury at, who do we tell our opinions to?
Stick the email addresses in this thread of everyone we should be emailing to complain.
I'll get it started with
[email protected]
[email protected]
[email protected]
Anyone got any SFA addresses, preferrably Regans?
Don't forget your councillors and MSP's
Correct but put the two together so soon and somebody is seriously taking the piss out of Hibs fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
I don't see this plan happening but just in case, I would like to let Hibs know that if the rules are bent to help sevco then I will never spend another penny on Hibs. I currently spend about £600 per year (1 adult, 2kids + strips etc). If Hibs allow this then they will have to do without my money.
Is accepted and the Rangers Newco are admitted to the new first division, then ALL honest supporters should boycott ALL the first games of the season.
Hardly anybody showing up would send a clear message that the fans do not accept this.
Any other clubs supporters reading this and thinking the same .... spread the word.
I have been a Season Ticket holder for nearly thirty years and if these proposals go through then I will be seriously thinking about throwing the towel in as far as Scottish Football is concerned.
This is a total stitch up by all clubs including Hibs and what makes it worse they had the audacity to come out and say they would be voting NO to a Newco getting into the SPL, knowing full well what had been previously agreed.
Only one punishment will do for me and that is for the Newco to start again from the bottom and even then to go through the proper channels by applying to gain entry.
The game in Scotland has been a laughing stock for years now and it will be an even bigger laughing stock after this debacle.
Football should never get into a position like what we have with two teams competing for the top two places year in year out and the one time we have a real chance for change we sell our selves down the river because of a few threats from the West Coast and few shillings.
We seem to forget that we were threatened with boycotts from this same mob and I can assure you of this their fans will not forget and they will love nothing better than for other clubs to go to the wall but this time those at the top won't give a rats ass as they could not give a toss who the other ten clubs are as long as the Glasgow two are there.
I very much agree with Carlberg's OP. SFL 1 for the Newco will cost every other club fans and money. It isn't an idle threat. If this proposal goes ahead, Scotland's clubs need to be prepared for detrimental consequences and not just expect benefits alone. But will they care if on balance they make more than they lose from it?
It's true.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Green Goblin
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Originally Posted by 1875 NO 1
i hope it never comes to this but if the right thing isnt done with rangers then i think its a great idea we would still be hibees and get our football fix every saturday
This is my view as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by inglisavhibs
The cup final wasn't enough to stop me going to watch hibs!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
A petition has started. Get it signed.
http://www.ipetitions.com/petition/s...ampaign=button
What would the point be? Once they've done this, it's done. Folk skipping a game won't make them suddenly kick the newco to SFL3.
If they do this, they do it in full knowledge that fans have threaten to not go back. They are calling our bluffs, hoping we will **** and moan but give in in the end and just go back.
No thanks.
Quite clear, a boycott.
Count me out as-well Mr Petrie, Newco 1st Div = NO RENEWAL. and its bye bye from me after 45 years.
realy cant see an email to any of they addresses making one bit of difference to who they reach, good on people if they want to try tho. Id say the only hope in this mess is for uefa or fifa to get involved but dunno if theve got previous of doing so in a situation like this
All right then just do nothing and get rogered again.
Is it any wonder they can do as they please with these attitudes.
Boycott? You wont have to worry about the first match....or the second match.......or any matches.If you can call them matches.Thousands will not come back.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
This new div 1 plan is bs, just when it looked like the right thing was being done and that there was a real sense of togetherness and positivity among fans, perhaps a sense of trepidation but definate optimism, they come out with this.
Shower of ****s, total stitch up, disgrace, one big **** you to the fans.
If true, then f you Petrie f you newco and f you Scottish football.
Sorry for all the effing and jeffing but Jesus titty f Ing Christ, have they not listened to one thing the fans have said?
W A N K E R S
so so angry right now ( just got online and caught up on the last 5 pages if this thread)
Some will, but a mass boycott of the first games will get huge publicity.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greendrongo
I'd just ask Rod to come out and tell us the truth and what's really going on. It's starting to get confusing for me. A wee statement from Rod would go a long way for me deciding what my Hibs future will be.
I will boycott Scottish Football totally. I can watch the EPL instead. If this goes through Hibs are dead to me as they are complicit in it.
Trust me, if your MP suddenly has hundreds/thousands of emails he/she will act!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Green E's
we need to raise the bar on this argument
What difference will that make?:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
Why just the first game? Don't go back at all and as I said in another thread fight for the resignation of the yes-men.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
My email to the board is simple and to the point...............Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
Please can you outline the process I will have to go through to cancel payment plan season ticket SHOULD a newco be Allowed *into division one.
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Originally Posted by Cabbage East
Done and forwarded.
I am sure if it was done all the teams would have an emergency meeting as they could not survive if that was to continue, but you have to start somewhere.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Can we not just all head to the SFA/SPL or whoevers headquarters and have one hugeriotdemo?
You'd be wasting your time as the payment plan has nothing to do with Hibs who already have the money up front from Zebra finance.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
They will already be in div 1, the deed will have been done. The time to do something is now, not after the event.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
Have I got this right, it's been a long day.
The SPL have threatened the SFL clubs in that if they don't agree to Newco into the First Division they'll start SPL2.
Where are the extra clubs coming from to make up SPL2?
Said on the other thread the Dundee United fans were mad to run along and buy ST's based on the announcement - only when the deal is
done should those (who are serious) put their hands in the pocket. If this is going through then they think nothing of the average fan -
sporting integrity my ass. :bye:
The report is quite clear on why the clubs will vote for it. Whether the statement about the loss of revenue is true I'm not so sure, and I doubt we'll ever truly know. But the message is clear: "Will you accept Rangers in the First Division, or do you want to kiss goodbye to £16m a year into Scottish football?"
Several clubs got their fans to do this, Hibs included.Quote:
Originally Posted by alexedwards
Perhaps but I would like to find out how to cancel it, if indeed it can be done and of course it makes a point to the board. Ultimately I would hope it doesn't come to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
So your learned view of that document, and the outcome from it is ..?Quote:
Originally Posted by WindyMiller
I don't understand ... WTF is this "integrity" thing that Petrie has been banging on about?
Ok so what can we all do now, the first game is where ALL supporters can make a concerted effort to show their feelings, I am open to any other suggestion that will show ALL supporters outrage.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
I'd be quite happy to see the back of TV money and all the ***** that goes with it. Yes, all our clubs will be a lot poorer, but real football fans won't desert their clubs. Pandering to the OF yet again will see a significant number wave cheerio and that's pretty sad.Quote:
Originally Posted by grunt
Complicit? Sounds like our chief executive is the friggin architect of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lofarl
Yes because this Newco business and the mass opinion of 99% of Scottish Football fans is relatively unknown :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
As already mentioned, boycotting the first match will make 0 difference. All the fixtures, arrangements etc will already have been made for the Newco to be in the first division. If the SPL and SFL aren't willing to stick Rangers down where they should be when nothing is set in stone, they most definitely wont do anything after the first game of the season.
Like what has already been posted , rod needs to come out and let the fans know what's happening ! I allready have a season ticket for this coming season , but there is no danger I would have renewed had I heard about this carve up !!!! That missing 2500 season tickets from last year will go AWOL if this goes through .
Not for me, I am used to Hibs letting us down on the park but this is just corrupt. I didn't think I would get over the final but time is a healer and there is always the next game to look forward to. Would rather hibs spent less on signings than attempt to buy rangers fans money.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
'Integrity' of his 'investment'?Quote:
Originally Posted by clerriehibs
I'd back it. Would need to somehow persuade other clubs to do similar and set up a league completely separate from the SFA.
Not at all wasting your time if you have been mis-sold a product, in fact every SPL could be on a sticky wicket if it's shown they have lied to there fans to get ST sales.Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
The fact it's on direct debit gives you additional security and protection.
I'm completely finished with the game in Scotland, should this go through. You must make up your own mind what you do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibs7
No to newco demo at Hampden on Saturday at 2pm organized by various supporters clubs
I have the money for a season ticket in my bank account. If Newco end up any higher than div 3, I'll never be back to a Scottish league or international match.
I will be the same as you if it goes through, but what can we do now to stop it being approved.Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
A link to this post and all the others like it NEED to be emailed to the Hibs, SPL and SFA/SFL boards..
I'm sure the vast majority of other teams fans feel the same as what we do, they should do the same
Agree with the above, however IF RP has had an active role in the impending restructure, there should be a mass demonstration at home game vs Huddersfield calling for his napper on a platter.....Quote:
Originally Posted by blackpoolhibs
Pretty much my thoughts exactly; although not fussed about EPL. Will be done with the Scotland National Team tooQuote:
Originally Posted by Lofarl
Dave, I'm with you and I'd prefer a game with integrity and without all the baggage that Rangers bring. I'd be prepared to give up the Sky money (if that's what the £16m is, I don't know). But there are far too many others, people with vested interests in keeping their bit of the game going, who I expect will say, "we need that TV money". For me the important question is whether this estimate of lost revenue has any basis in fact. If it is the Sky money, and if Sky really have said that the deal will be £4m a year not £20m a year if you don't have Rangers and the OF games, then that will be a difficult scenario for many club Chairmen to contemplate. And I can see them swallowing their sporting integrity and allowing Rangers into SFL1.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaveF
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Originally Posted by lucky
Are the demos not at the grounds? I thought there was one planned for ER :confused:.
There is a demo at Hampden at 2pm against the newco Rangers on Saturday organised by various fan groups
so much for all that media crap we used to here about bigotry etc being a curse for our game ,now there is a chance to end it for good ,and the media ,governing bodies ,and now it looks like the rest of our clubs show that they really could not care less about it anyway,i probably only go to about 7 or 8 home games now with the wife and kid so won't be missed ,but if they are not in the 3rd div or better still kicked out ,it will be full time highland league for me ,having said that will no doupt sneak back after a few years .gutted
Exactly. Who gives a toss about what players represent HFC in Petrie's charade. I feel sorry for Fenlon. He's become piggy-in-the-middle in a season which promises to be the beginning of the end of Scottish Football, if those who are threatening to walk away, stick to their principles.Quote:
Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw
Aaaaaaaaaah my point was the finance deal is with Zebra finance so any proposal to cancel said agreement would need to be directed to them and not Hibs. Please explain the mis-sold scenario for me, genuine question not a challenge to whether they have been mis-sold by the way in case you think I'm looking for an argument :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
buying them from the first division teams, so they can't negotiate there own dealQuote:
Originally Posted by H18SVG
Avoid Harlequins (of bloodgate fame) then :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Coco Bryce
I was gutted after that ... at the moment, I'm disgusted.Quote:
Originally Posted by Steve20
:agree: By the way, how about lending Petrie your user-name. :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Judas Iscariot
What is Scott Lindsay's email ?Quote:
Originally Posted by bighairyfaeleith
You read it here first folks-how can you be surprised?Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
i used all my intuition to make an educated guess - I've sent an email ... Apologies if there is another slindsay that works for Hibs :greengrin :flag:Quote:
Originally Posted by ...WentToMowAnSPL