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Iron dome isn't able to cope.
Anyone looking for a good guy/bad guy narrative here should be aware that Iran don't qualify as good guys.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Tubs
This is what has sparked Israel's attack on their nuclear facilities:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/ce3v6w2qr12o
The US has been in talks with Iran for two months to try and end its uranium enrichment, but like most of Trump's attempts to negotiate peaceful solutions it's been all talk with few tangible results. Israel knows fine well that they'd be the first target of a weaponised Iran so has taken decisive action.
Iran's proxies Hezbollah were responsible for keeping the Assad regime in power in Syria for so long, while Iran has also provided Putin with plenty of support in his war against Ukraine. Whatever criticism Israel may merit, it's hard to feel any pity for Iran, whose nuclear ambitions would provide a threat to us all.
Iran can’t sustain this level of attack either though.Quote:
Originally Posted by Moulin Yarns
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So only the west get to decide who is able to get the new toys. That seems fair. Given many international problems have in the main been started or instigated by the west through things like regime change, colonial actions from the past seems ever so slightly hypocriticalQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
Cool heads are needed from the West for sure, but to just let Iran go ahead and build nuclear weapons would be madness.Quote:
Originally Posted by JimBHibees
Especially as they are committed to use it when they get it.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
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This all has an Iraq weapons of mass destruction version 2 feel to it.
In other words, an excuse to start a war that instigates a regime change.
Destabilising Iran conveniently paves the way for Israel taking control of the remaining Palestinian land without fear of repercussion.
Obviously a bit of a guess on my part, but I've seen enough to be skeptical of the motives here.
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Originally Posted by DinkyTwo
I'm sure the International atomic agency says Iran has enriched Uranium to 60-80% you only need as high as 5% for power usage, so if you believe them then they are definitely at it
The only fear Isreal has of Iran is nuclear. The reality is that after oct 7 the Israeli’s have decided that they no longer wish to live with the threats from Iran’s proxies. And the only real way to deal with that is to change the regime in Iran. They know Hamas and Hezbollah will be able to reconstitute in time if Iran is allowed to keep funding them. The need to go after Iran.Quote:
Originally Posted by DinkyTwo
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It's the International Atomic Energy Association which has found Iran in breach of its nuclear proliferation agreement. That's a global watchdog comprising something like 40 members. This isn't some sketchy allegation.Quote:
Originally Posted by DinkyTwo
Actually, you know what, this has forced me to do a bit more reading up on the subject.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
I think I've let my disgust at the treatment of Palestine cloud my judgement a bit. Seems like Iran have been working to create nuclear weapons for years and their intention of what they plan to do with them is unclear at best.
Seems to be one of those situations where both parties (Israel and Iran) are going to come out of it stinking of ****.
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Fair enough guys, appreciate the info and I've educated myself a bit better on the subject.
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Totally get it, with the Israeli and Iranian Governments it's a bit like do you want a poke in the eye or kick in the baws, both a bunch of lunaticsQuote:
Originally Posted by DinkyTwo
I think this hits the nail on the head. Isreal simply won’t be left in peace (I’m not getting involved in the debate as to whether or not they want peace) whilst Iran is run by the current regime, funding and organising various regionalised terror groups who are anti Israeli.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
The poster you quoted compared it to the Iraq war which I simply can’t agree with. This isn’t a far off country 2 thousand miles away from Isreal. Iran are on their doorstep and willing them destroyed. It’s the means to do so that Iran lack and I don’t blame Isreal for stopping them from gaining those means.
I also think the fall of the Iranian regime would be a very good thing for the Palestinians. Become free from Hamas and any future military action from Isreal will be much more black and white in terms of not being justifiable.
Both vile regimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mon Dieu4
Both vile regimes for sure and im happy Iranian nuclear facilities are getting a pounding but it's by a regime that is commuting a genocide. Yes Israel had the right to hit military targets after October 7th but they are flattening residential areas in a nation they have been commuting genocide on for decades. I don't see a way out like Northern Ireland as all regimes near and including Israel would exterminate each other
Sadly, I think this is exactly right.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Really is a much more dangerous two cheeks situation with much deadlier consequences for a number of innocents caught in the crossfire.
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As above, the sooner Russia and Iran are defeated, the sooner the world returns to some sort of normality. Their influence is behind a lot of world events.
Russia and Israel are the root of all evil.
How many more innocent people must die for the purposes of land grabbing?
Rather than blame the nations themselves, the current regimes in charge of Israel, Iran, Russia and the USA are unfortunately total headbangers that the citizens of their respective countries would be well rid of.
Anything resembling sensible adults in charge of these countries would see the world be a much better and safer place.
A place where the human rights abuses of the likes of the Saudis and the Chinese were near the top of the problem list, as they should be.
There are pretty big tensions between all the factions right now and the US look primed to get more involved in Iran. Unless Trump (a coward, who does love a u-turn) can be talked round then it could be getting ugly there, soon. Seemingly he quite fancied being in control of the Iranian oil but the conflict there is seeing him finding himself being pulled between his two big man crushes - Putin and Netanyahu.
https://bsky.app/profile/noelreports.../3lrqcg7zjik2f
On the spot reporting.
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Even under the current Israeli government, your life would be immeasurably more liberated than in Iran, especially if you're a woman or gay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
To put that in context, Israel is the only Middle Eastern country to offer legal protections for LGBT+ people (Tel Aviv's Pride parade is among the biggest in the world), while in Iran homosexuality remains punishable by death. Iranian legislation also allows the imposition of the death penalty on women who defy the compulsory veiling laws.
But if your one of the 10k Palestinian bairns slaughtered, not so liberatedQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
There’s only one of those regimes committing genocide at present. Don’t use ‘whitabootery’ to let the far right maniacs leading Israel off the hook.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibspur
That's quite the exaggeration when it comes to Israel. How about China under Mao (nearly 50 million killed)? The Nazi Holocaust (14 million dead)? The Soviet Union under Stalin (13 million dead)? The Khmer Rouge/Pol Pot? Or more recently the genocides in Rwanda and Darfur? Israel's current (democratically elected) government is hard line and their current actions polarise opinion, but the country has consistently found itself fighting to preserve the Middle East's only Jewish state. There's a lot of focus on 1948 being the start of the Arab/Israeli conflict, but Jews have been one of the most consistently persecuted races in history and their battle against anti-Semitism in the region goes back many centuries.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestStandWillie
this is absolute horse ****.Quote:
Originally Posted by WestStandWillie
Israel, as it exists today, is a direct and more-or-less deliberate result of Europe outsourcing its massive anti-semitism problem onto the middle east, whilst in the process turning an utterly devastated and traumatised population into an attack dog for the purposes of western interests. It needn't have been done this way, and the fact that it was is almost entirely the west's fault. This isn't to say that the west is the root of all evil - i think that root can be found in people all over the world. that is, the impulse towards imperialism, and the willingness of populations to turn a blind eye to it when it suits them to do so.
i'll give you this though - Netenyahu and Putin are evil.
Talk of there being all sorts going on at the G7 - Americans falling out with folk left, right and centre.
It'll be the G6 after this...
Incredibly tense and hostile, instead of it being the G7, the Chinese, Indians, Mexicans and others are there too. "Americans not reading the room" seemingly.