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Some of the non-footballing journalists took umbrage at Danish players wanting Denmark to win and not caring about England.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hibrandenburg
They imagine the whole world revolves around their own personal wants.
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I support Scotland except when they are playing England, nothing patronising about that from me, always been that way for me growing up in Liverpool. Just so happened I married a Scottish girl too! 😁🏴Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
That is the thinking behind VAR but it seems to go out the window where offsides are concernedQuote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
"Lack of leadership this country has suffered."Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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VAR is far from perfect and inconsistent due to human interpretation but it is better than not looking at a decision again, agree with your general point though.Quote:
Originally Posted by MKHIBEE
We gave you Shankly, Dalglish, etc it would've been a bit harsh if you didn't! :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
That's a decent description.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
I'm sure things have changed over the last few days but not that long ago the England national team struggled to get people in large chunks of England to support them never mind people from Scotland.
I used to go to Newcastle games semi regularly and the guys I knew there had no interest in the national team whatsoever. 'It's a southern team' was the general refrain (admittedly these guys thought of anywhere south of Durham as 'down there').
Yes I’ll give you that 😁Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
UEFA charges England over laser pointed at Kasper Schmeichel during EURO Semi Final
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England celebrates.
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Originally Posted by ronaldo7
The attitude you have to all of this is pretty good in my opinion, you see it for what it is, banter. You give it as well as take it and in the main it is well accepted on both sides. Fwiw I am currently working with 3 ex forces Englishmen on a project and believe me when I say it is me that us taking dogs abuse, and not just for the football! Anyway, forza Italia, Everton and Hibs. I'm sure you will agree on at least one if those!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
No doubt about the connection between team and fans last night. Whether it's partly down to a kind of post-lockdown exuberance I don't know, but it seems better, more wholesome somehow, than previous occasions like Euro 96. The youthfulness of the players plus the likeability of Southgate seems to be a big factor too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pretty Boy
Footage from the 2018 World Cup apparently, just before anyone asks about social distancing or why no-one was wearing masks etc.Quote:
Originally Posted by ronaldo7
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Originally Posted by Sir David Gray
lineker trying to justify the penalty, giving it "Hand of God", "Lampards ball over the line...", we never had the luck in the past...
No mention Russian linemen! :greengrin
Maybe you don't have much contact with English people, but I've had it for years "well we support Scotland when they play anyone else apart from England, so why don't you support England when they are playing anyone else apart from Scotland". Of course it's easy to say "good-luck to Scotland when they might have a chance of scraping a Euros play-off slot", but I really doubt that would be the case if it was the semi-final of the World Cup and we had a good chance of winning it.Quote:
Originally Posted by He's here!
To me, the Scotland England rivalry is the biggest one that impacts on me. I don't want them to win at anything. I grew up in the 70s, when we regularly beat them and that was just fantastic. Now, I'm saddened by our nation's acceptance of their superiority and the "doesn't bother me" attitude.
Gary Neville on SSN actually being reasonable about the penalty which is refreshing. Said it’s never a penalty and English people would be raging if it had been the other way around.
Some of the revisionism surrounding the game is amazing, by the time we get to Sunday we’ll be told it was a stonewaller and so was the one on Kane. Oh and Denmark should never have had a freekick for the goal too. Crazy
Aye, lets have Doddsy and Shelley Kerr on spouting their words of wisdom.Quote:
Originally Posted by soul_driver
On this occasion I'd rather listen to anyone than what we had last night.Quote:
Originally Posted by Alfred E Newman
Can they ask for the game to be replayed😀Quote:
Originally Posted by BILLYHIBS
Must have been just after the second ball on the pitch was booted out of the Stadium before the Ref noticed it 😃Quote:
Originally Posted by Billy Whizz
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Originally Posted by theonlywayisup
:top marks
Wow, the levels of bitter from some about this England result are staggering and very, very revealing. There's a spectrum across most of social media all the way from fair play to them you can only beat what's in front of you through to pretty much pus-filled hatred and literally just making stuff up - and everything in between.
It was a very soft penalty, I don't think it was one at all in fact. The Kane claim earlier in the game was stronger. However for the majority of that game they were certainly the more likely side. I think its a pretty uninspiring style of football - reminds me of the German approach in fact - with Denmark being the stiffest test they've had so far and yet the Danes, particularly without Eriksen, looked knackered well before full time.
Lots of games at home, an easier side to the draw, no major opponents yet and the final at a full or near full Wembley. Sometimes its written in the stars and if you take all your chances then you deserve to be champions. All the whining in the world about how they did it in those circumstances just comes across as chip-on-shoulder sour grapes.
But they still have to get past Italy who for my money have already played two finals and come out on top despite facing two very different tests. If Italy show up I expect them to win. If Italy show up and England still win then they will have deserved it. If England are going to win a major tournament I'll be pleased it's with that manager and that group of players who are a credit to themselves and their country in ways that most previous managers and squads simply were not.
It has been an outstanding finals. Whatever happens they've had a great tournament. I wish we had too. We need to do better.
And Sam Matterface is a horse's arse throwback who makes it hard to wish England well. Many English fans clearly feel that too.
Forza Azzurri.
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Originally Posted by soul_driver
I tried to avoid it last night by switching to ESPN,no luck ,same commentary different pundits.
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Originally Posted by Hiber-nation
Absolutely. England are in only their second ever major final and first since just after Hearts last won the league cup and their fans are still singing about Scotland getting battered everywhere they go. It's a rivalry. It's a rivalry that wants me to see England getting beat. The same kind of rivalry that Germany and Holland have. I want Hearts to lose every game they play. Same applies to England.
I did avoid the bulk of it, very easy to watch anything else.Quote:
Originally Posted by hhibs
Gary Neville seems to be the only pundit on either ITV or BBC who actually has anything insightful or interesting to say about the actual football.
Jack, Victor and Winston commentary team in Scotland for the final please.