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Originally Posted by MrSmith
We are complicit in the 5-way agreement plus allowing this farce to continue. Rod as part of the SFA/SPFL could've done more to ensure fairness and transparency as well as determining rules re cheating. Has he done enough?Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
http://www.itv.com/news/2017-07-31/j...ews-interview/
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Thank god for her it didnt happen in Scotland. Shame on our football 'authorities' coughQuote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
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Statement from Hibs this week.
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Don't know what she's moaning about? That medal was won fair and square on the track. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by kaimendhibs
Given the wholesale cheating in the past and the continuing cover-up by the authorities how can anyone be sure of "sporting integrity" in the future?
And who would be mug enough to invest time, money and emotion in a rigged competition?
Let's hope Leeann is up for the fight. I think she will. Lead from the front and others hopefully will follow!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I'd rather she spent time helping to sign players to allow us to have a great league campaign than be distracted by this.Quote:
Originally Posted by KazaHibs
I realise that won't be universally popular.
That would be great but it might be in vain if we are playing in a rigged competition.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
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They wouldn't be retrospectively stripping titles. They would be stripping titles, which can only be stripped after they've been won.Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
The idea that it would be somehow backward-looking to punish Old The is hun-apologist myth-making. It would be entirely forward-looking, making a statement that from now on rigging the game is not on.
"Given themselves legal cover"? Let's hear what the legal advice was then. Until it's transparent, that legal cover might as well be entirely made-up pish.
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Originally Posted by lapsedhibee
Legal advice summarised here:
https://spfl.co.uk/news/article/spfl-press-release-84/
I'm almost certain that this will now go to judicial review so the truth will out eventually. I'd just prefer Hibs to have taken the morally correct stance on this.
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David Longmuir is the key for me! By amalgamating the associations our governing bodies ensured they could not retrospectively punish rangers. This has been a butt covering exercise since 2010. Al the SPFL top team boards are covering up now as the list of bodies will shock most. Legal advice - ay right!Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
BDO had legal advice that the could win the big tax case. Legal advice is meaningless. Half the lawyers in most cases are on the losing side.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
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This "legal advice" argument is nonsense. Football has rules and if a rule is broken, in this case improperly registered players, you suffer the consequences. League titles were won under the SPL. The SPL no longer exist. The SPFL could make a statement that those league titles would no longer be recognised and Sevco wouldn't have a leg to stand on or anybody to take legal action against.
Which is?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
to be at the forefront of seeing justice served upon cheats!Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
OK, but at the risk of repeating some stuff waaaay up thread "seeing justice served upon cheats"Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
Which cheats - David Murray? Barry the crab?????
The club (that doesnt exist any more) ?
This is it, allegedly.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
https://www.sfm.scot/wp-content/uplo...ignature-1.pdf
Thanks for that, will look forward to reading it.Quote:
Originally Posted by CropleyWasGod
How about the 'new' club which claims to be the 'old' club, but only when it suits them. Especially when it comes to claiming tainted trophies and titles?Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
option 3. Justice can be served retrospectively on rapists, pedophiles and murderers. Rangers are liquidated but still in the SFA record books as winning these trophies. I'd be happy with an asterisk or deleted from the records.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Thanks. Hadn't seen that. Bad start to the statement though ....Quote:
Originally Posted by jacomo
The SPFL Board today announced, following legal advice from eminent Senior Counsel, Gerry Moynihan Q.C....
"We've got a big lawyer, not from Arbroath." "My dad's bigger than your dad." Stressing how big your lawyer is doesn't make his argument or reasoning more correct, or valuable, at all ....
Hibs have nothing to lose and everything to gain by coming out with a strong statement saying yes effectively rangers cheated and the titles they won are tainted and should be stripped from the record books. The titles may not be stripped but i can live with that as long as we show sporting integrity really does mean something to Hibernian FC not just cheap talk. Lets face it the only people in Scotland who would object are the huns and i doubt if they could hate us anymore anyway. GGTTH.
OK, but - playing devils advocate again - its a nailed on certainty that "having an asterisk" isnt going to cut it for some (i.e. losing cup finalists) people.Quote:
Originally Posted by MrSmith
My guess would be that any statement that the tainted trophies will be "asterisked" will cause as much hassle / debate / argument as is currently going on.
No question they cheated, no debate about that - but, short of chucking the new club out (which would be hilarious, but will never happen) I really cant see what will satisfy all the different opinions.
I really don't think you're right. The poll on here was overwhelmingly in favour of asterisking. The threads on Hearts, Aberdeen and Celtic message boards suggest similar.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
It's an absolute no-brainer to void the honours won by the old Rangers over the years in question although if you gave me the option of only that or only Doncaster/Regan sacked and replaced I'd choose the latter every time.
What's needed more than anything is the truth. What were the roles of Campbell Ogilvie, Andrew Dickson etc? Who at the SFA knew this was happening and when? Why was LNS evidence withheld? Why no action against any individual involved?
This needs a full investigation with lawyers representing the fans to make sure we get to the bottom of it. All the evidence is out there, the authorities need to start answering to it.
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Surely the main point about the poll is that the majority of .netters were not interested enough to take part.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
You can't claim everyone who didn't vote for one side or the other.[emoji23]Quote:
Originally Posted by ancient hibee
The poll is a representative sample and quite a big one at that. I think about 500 people took part, which makes up a fairly big percentage of Hibs fans and likely makes it more accurate than most opinion polls.
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