Conversely, I fully expect Petrie to advise the new SPFL board on a strategy for avoiding doing anything regarding the worst sporting scandal in British football, as he and his fellow SFA lickspittles have done.
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Conversely, I fully expect Petrie to advise the new SPFL board on a strategy for avoiding doing anything regarding the worst sporting scandal in British football, as he and his fellow SFA lickspittles have done.
Just catching up, been at the cinema all afternoon watching Captain Underpants.
Well done Rod Petrie, although I'm waiting to see what the scope of any review is before forgiving him his sins. Surely they can't try the same old trick they did with LNS?
Anyway, hopefully more detail later today.
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What is Petrie's role on the SPFL board? or was it a full meeting.
Thought he was on the Professional Game board (or whatever it's called) and SFA blazer.
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Think you're right but at least it's winding up the Huns. :wink:Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
The only way the SFA/SPFL will do anything is if there is sustained, organised fan pressure. The mentality is sweep it under the rug* whenever possible.
* Ironic given Wiggy Milne finally gave up on his.
spfl agm.Quote:
Originally Posted by radium
Jeez, suddenly kickback looks rationale and full of intellectuals. If only I could get back in[emoji1]Quote:
Originally Posted by Castle1875
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I'm feeling rather exuberant this afternoon
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Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Not unexpected. Weak and spineless. How can that wreck of a club hold so much sway over the governing body. There must be a lot of bodies at the bottom of the pond.
Now I could be wrong, but I'm sure Vlad was trying to get Hearts players to sign new contracts under Kaunas FC and then loan them back to Hearts! That way they would be taxed in Lithuania at a reduced tax level than here in the UK :agree:Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
Craig Gordon was one player who refused to sign a new contract at Hearts (he was going to do so before he found it was a Kaunas contract) and that was the start of the player rebellion against Mad Vlad.
All of them including Dempster and Petrie complicit if this is the case. Their silence is deafening as they already have our season ticket money.and couldn't give a **** about sporting integrity or all the things that were so important to them when they needed our money in 2012.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fuzzywuzzy
After allegedly breaking the law and evading tax, maybe he is readying himself to a move to a different type of "gated mansion" in the next few years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Jack
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Definitely looks like they are preparing to ask us all to move on.
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I think the phrase "legal advice being sought" is the important one before you throw LD and RP under any buses.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spike Mandela
I am unclear what people want done here?
Results changed?
Any ideas on who "won" the tours de france that Lance had ceremonially removed? Me neither, as nobody really gives a toss as its such a mess.
Or is it just to remove their wins from the record books? What difference will it actually make in the real world???
Serious questions, by the way, not trying to be controversial.
Just apply the rules. Teams who play players who are not registered properly forfeit the match.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Their wins should be removed from the record books.
When Spartans failed to register a player properly for a Scottish cup game they were disqualified, why should it be different for Rangers?
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It sends a signal (albeit about a million years too late) that cheating won't be tolerated and the rules will (eventually) be applied. I want Regan sacked as well tbh. Then I want someoe appointed who actually gives a **** about running a sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Ask yourself this: if the New Huns come up with a new dodgy way to bend the rules (and let's face it, with their "glib and shameless liar" at the helm, that's hardly a stretch), do you trust Scottish football's authorities to be right on top of it and robustly stamp it out?
I get that and I am all for ramming anything right up the Rangers, but..........Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
What I am asking is - in a practical sense - what does disqualifying them from a tournament XYZ years ago mean?
If you played the Huns in a semi final do you get to replay the final (ridiculous of course), but you get my drift now?
Legal advice being sought can be tailored to suit any agenda they so wish as was seen in the restricted framework and lack of information given to the LNS commission.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
The legal advice sought will be on how to fudge this whole issue and will not be open and transparent to the public.
It's a crock of ****!
Exactly. We still do not have a proper FFP rule in place and a robust way of monitoring clubs spending.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeMeSouviens
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I thought there were Eufa rules on financial fair play?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
They only apply if you qualify for Europe.Quote:
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And appear not to be enforced, as Sevco clearly breached them this season but were allowed to play anyway.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
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Maybe that is not what the rules actually state?Quote:
Originally Posted by Ozyhibby
I don't think this is as as simple as many people would like it to be. Dempster, Budge and all the other chairpeople (?) are answerable to their own fans and given the depth of feeling over this, I'm sure they'll want to represent the feelings of the fans.
Maybe there isn't actually a bulletproof legal process they can go through to strip titles? There certainly isn't a precedent. I see what you mean about Spartans being kicked out of a competition, but that happened at the time. Is there a rule that suggests titles can be stripped years after the event if a team has been found to field ineligible players?
I agree that titles should be stripped, but I say that with no knowledge of how the rules actually work. Might it be that proper legal advice HAS been sought and that there is genuinely nowhere for the authorities to go?
Throughout this whole Rangers fiasco, lots of people have suddenly become experts on everything from tax and company law to TUPE regulations and now onto the rules of football. I struggle to understand enough about my professional field of expertise without really knowing anything about any of this, although I know what I would like to be the case.
(I'm mainly trying to be devil's advocate btw).
I'm of the exact same position Green Day. In theory yeah it sounds great but it goes deeper than making said trophies null and void imo. Teams that lost semi finals, teams that potentially got relegated due to losses again the rangers.Quote:
Originally Posted by green day
Honestly I don't know the answers and wonder if we would be so persistent if it was Dundee, or a club further down the pyramid.
If people are being honest the real driving force behind seing titles stripped is not sporting integrity but the desire to see Sevco given another good kicking. I have no problem with that, I'd love to see their titles removed :greengrinQuote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
If sporting integrity really mattered so much to fitba fans there would have been a massive clamour to see Hearts face further punishment for their financial doping. Apart from Hibs fans it did not happen, nobody else really cared. The authorities have to apply the rules and if none exist saying that title stripping ws a potential punishment then it makes it hard to do so.
If it was Dundee it would have happened by now.Quote:
Originally Posted by GreenNWhiteArmy
You can't repair all the damage caused by this, all you can do is send a message that it will not be rewarded.
Lance Armstrong got guys thrown of his team who would not dope, ending their careers. There is nothing that can be done to help them but at least cycling done the right thing and voided all his results.
It is within the SPFL's power to void any title it awarded. That is a standard rule in all sports admin.
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Yeah, we are all simpletons because we don't know the legalese.Quote:
Originally Posted by Smartie
Cheats are cheats and it really isn't that difficult to see this for heaven's sake.
What we have become expert on is the corrupt/incompetent arse covering of our so called governing authorities whose agenda from day 1 has been to sweep all this under the carpet, protecting Rangers from every available sanction and treating ordinary punters like us as as if we were ****ing idiots.
As you may gather it makes my ****ing blood boil.:greengrin
To answer the earlier question about what would be achieved.
As a Football Fan, I want to know the competitions my team takes part in have the same rules for all participating clubs. For example if one club can be ejected from a Cup Competition for having one improperly registered player, then all clubs should be subject to the same rules, otherwise the whole thing is unfair. In the case of Rangers, they had multiple improperly registered players over a number of years (side-letter contracts).
Even if you consider the current Rangers to be a new club, then retrospective stripping of titles is still necessary, to send out a message that when the rules are broken, the punishment will be meted out, regadless of who the club is.
If there are rules for some clubs and different rules for others, then we might as well just give up the whole thing.
There are rules that allow title stripping. Happy to go after the yams as well but there is no evidence against them out in the public domain.Quote:
Originally Posted by marinello59
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