missed that but i thought the compere dude said to DD "if" there's a rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
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missed that but i thought the compere dude said to DD "if" there's a rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
Surely AJ retires after that? He was all over the place. Should've been stopped at least a round earlier.
You've made your money man. Please, stop.
Yeah I think your right. I think with these Saudi fights they basically say who they want and pay an obscene amount. I'm sure that Turki Alalshikh said he would either make Fury Usyk part 3 if fury wins and Joshua loses or a unification if Fury and Joshua wonQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Joshua should retire and Dubois is an average champion. Fury in his pomp would have knocked out either of them. I listened on 5live and I’m glad I didn’t pay for it.
Said it would be closer than people are saying but didn't expect that. The first round hit was the winner, Joshua was on the ropes literally after it. Some bravery from him and all the fighters that step in the ring. Can't see Joshua being at the top again after that destroying, but he had a very good career and raised the profile of boxing in the UK.
Queensberry promoter Frank Warren said to DAZN: "It was a phenomenal fight and I always felt it would be a Hagler-Hearns situation. AJ showed his heart right until the end. It was a brilliant fight.
"I always felt Dubois would do it and he has. It's not a turnaround, it was there. He was a young man and had double fractures in his eyes, he couldn't fight. He hurt him [Usyk], I'd like to see him fight him now but he has to fight Tyson now.
He also said Dubois would want to be active and wouldn’t want to sit waitingQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Joseph Parker definitely deserves a world title figh next after Wilder and Zhang victories
Think aj will take the rematch, he went in underestimating Dubois. Didn’t have his hands up and I think he thought he would show up and win. Time will tell if he will come back but the fight shouldn’t have went on past round 3
I don't think he did. He just got beat off a better boxer.Quote:
Originally Posted by 1875Sean
AJ, for his own sake, needs to pack it in. He can't take a punch. I realise how ridiculous that sounds in relative terms, but he was all over the place tonight.
I worry for him if he continues.
Watched it, I’m glad I didn’t pay for it either 😉Quote:
Originally Posted by Bishop Hibee
Thought Joshua sounded like a total erse after the fight, talking about how he could kick off but he’d keep it professional and show respect to his opponent. Then went on to say that a lot of mistakes were behind the loss. He gave some credit to DD but it came across as grudging and arrogant to me. The way he was talking you’d think he’d lost on a dodgy judges decision, not well beaten.
Hagler-Hearns situation :faf:Quote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
Have some respect Warren ya prick. Boxing is a joke now compared to the glory days.
I agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by JohnM1875
There was no lack of heart from Joshua. Quite the opposite really, he kept getting up and wanted to continue. It's quite ironic he landed his 2 best punches of the fight just before getting sparked but that's the risk when you open up after already being hurt.
His punch resistance just seems totally shot and he was never blessed with an iron chin to start with. I've given him plenty credit after his last few fights and he's had a brilliant amateur and probably career but for his own sake it's time to call it a day.
It wouldn't shock me to see him v Wilder now though. There isn't much else for either of them and it would still do decent money for a final pay day.
He will do the Dubois rematch by invoking his rematch clause as is his mindset.
i just mentioned to the gas engineer earlier that i try to make sure i don't see the "walk-in" before the fight starts, it's pathetic and i never ever watch the weigh-in's + the mostly made-up pushing and shoving and usually both telling each other what they're going to do to them, all pantomimeQuote:
Originally Posted by hibsbollah
now Hearn saying joshua does have a rematch clause in his contract but Warren claiming his man doesn't seem to have a rematch clause in his carbon copy contract lol
after a quick google i see a Journalist was banned from entering wembley after criticising the Saudi sportswashing, unfortunately the only articles i could find online was the Daily Mail & the Express Saudi crackdown on British Press freedom: Anthony Joshua vs Daniel Dubois organisers BAN journalist from Wembley for calling fight 'unashamed sportswashing exercise transforming London into Saudi Disneyland' | Daily Mail Online
Often one fighter will a rematch and not the other, Often the champ which was dubois won't have one but the challenger will. Herne has went back and said Joshua has one fight left with the Saudis. I think the Saudis are chucking so much at it that they decide what we want. The journalist is quite right though it is definitely sports washingQuote:
Originally Posted by cabbageandribs1875
With Usyk And Fury tied up and Parker as the only other really genuine option then Dubois would be mental not to just take a rematch for crazy money against someone he's emptied in easy fashion
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Would it not be the other way round?
If the champ loses they’ll want a contractual guarantee of a rematch, but the challenger won’t be able to demand that, nor are they really entitled to it if they lose they’ll want a match
Nah the champ can't have in his contract what someone else does its a personal contract, although im sure both agree what each other will have. The champ doesn't have it in his contract that he needs to rematch if he wins he moves on, the challenger has it stipulated that even if he wins he could be made to fight again. Sometimes they both have it sometimes neither. Looks like neither has the clause thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by McD
@MichaelBensonn
Eddie Hearn on what he's told Anthony Joshua to do next following the Daniel Dubois KO: “My advice is don't do anything until Dec 21st - the Oleksandr Usyk vs Tyson Fury rematch. If Fury loses it could set up a big fight vs Joshua, if Fury wins he could take a voluntary defence vs Joshua. It's still the biggest fight in the division by a mile.
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Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Got you :aok: I was thinking of it back to front :doh:
Live on Channel 5 now, Tom Welland on the undercard for Charlie Edward’s European title fight
Welland looking very decent for a 20 year old, stopped Martinez in R2Quote:
Originally Posted by Scouse Hibee
Big fight tonight - could be a classic - Beterbiev v Bivol.
Can't call a winner on this - guy with a 100% ko record against a guy with an excellent technical style.
Really looking forward to it. Bivol is tremendous and actually outclassed Canelo rather than just smothering him. Beterbiev is a monster though I'd maybe fancy him although Bivol slight favourite. Definitely too close to call easily thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Benny Brazil
Eubank pretty poor but done the job and then goes all WWE with Benn
Both Benn and Eubank living off their fathers namesQuote:
Originally Posted by Stairway 2 7
Some punch by Wardley. I was worried he'd killed him for a second.
Brutal punch - looks like a broken jawQuote:
Originally Posted by Hibby70
Wish they would just get on with it and get the fighters out