Generic Sevco / Rangers meltdown thread

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Originally Posted by Jack

I don't think these are top clubs.

If Jase stays at Hibs a while longer and continues to improve then we'll see much better clubs than those sniffing about, probably still not top clubs though.

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Absolutely. Important for him not to get too carried away and start thinking he's too big for hibs now. He's a great young prospect but he's still young and got lots to learn. If he keeps his feet on the ground, listens to the right people and stays a few more seasons at hibs learning and getting plenty game time experience under his belt then they're will be a bigger move in store for him.

Seen it too often, when young players start attracting a bit of attention and suddenly start to think they're bigger than they are which often results in them jumping at the first chance of a bigger club and usually damaging their progression in the game. Hopefully, like I say, Jason keeps his head down, listens to the right people and stays with hibs for a few more seasons to develop his game.

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Originally Posted by Libby Hibby

It's pure speculation created by the west coast media to try and disrupt our challenge...strange how there is no-one interested in Waghorn or Travenier but the usual 'we're going nowhere, The Rangers are a massive club' blah and 'we want to return this club to where it belongs' blah blah keeps on getting spouted out

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Yep, same old west coast media mind games and hun arse kissing.

Bit late.

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Originally Posted by Antwerphibs

Been reliably informed that a rangers player was arrested recently for breach of the peace and then resisting arrest. Wonder if it'll make the news.

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It's Clark and has been in the Sun since Saturday. Fighting with the polls at queen street station apparently.

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Originally Posted by Antwerphibs

Been reliably informed that a rangers player was arrested recently for breach of the peace and then resisting arrest. Wonder if it'll make the news.

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Not sure if this is a whoosh moment but it's nikky Clarke, was in the papers today.

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Originally Posted by hibs0666

It's Clark and has been in the Sun since Saturday. Fighting with the polls at queen street station apparently.

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Hahaha didn't know it was in the papers!

Why I was told in such a secretive manner is a mystery then!

I see Douglas Park has rejoined the Sevco board,


http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/...a_second_time/


His son who replaced him when he stepped down is staying on the Board.

Power shift ? Bail out ? just likes the blazer :greengrin

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Originally Posted by bingo70

Not sure if this is a whoosh moment but it's nikky Clarke, was in the papers today.

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Should that not be Nicked Clark?:greengrin

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Originally Posted by Libby Hibby

It's pure speculation created by the west coast media to try and disrupt our challenge...strange how there is no-one interested in Waghorn or Travenier but the usual 'we're going nowhere, The Rangers are a massive club' blah and 'we want to return this club to where it belongs' blah blah keeps on getting spouted out

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Both Waghorn and Tavernier have had plenty of chances down south and have found out. The Scottish Championship is probably about their level.

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Originally Posted by jgl07

Both Waghorn and Tavernier have had plenty of chances down south and have found out. The Scottish Championship is probably about their level.

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:agree: Both players who like to talk themselves up in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football, while failing miserably in the proper leagues. Barely professional level players.

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Originally Posted by Onion

:agree: Both players who like to talk themselves up in the 2nd tier of Scottish Football, while failing miserably in the proper leagues. Barely professional level players.

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Not sure I agree with this.

They are good players, not the world-beaters our media are bigging them up as but they are good players.

I think they'll be better for playing every week and also for playing with the pressure and expectation of winning every week.

If Tavernier can learn to defend he'll be a magnificent player. And I thought Waghorn was a real handful in our last game against them, he gave us more problems than Aberdeen or Dundee United did.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Maybe not their players, but .......


http://www.oddschecker.com/football/...manent-manager


Warburton 16/1 for the Fulham post.


Come on Warby, you know you want to go home ! :greengrin

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Warburton is having (another) pop at Stubbs.

http://m.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/14033172.Rangers_boss_Mark_Warburton__Alan_Stubbs_ should_focus_on_Hibs__promotion_bid___not_my_Ibrox _budget/

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Warburton is having (another) pop at Stubbs.

http://m.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/14..._Ibrox_budget/

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It's fair enough really - saying football bosses should only talk about their own club.

He kinda spoils the effect by going on to talk about the Gunts and Hibs.


He really isn't too bright is he.

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Originally Posted by w pilton hibby

Warburton is having (another) pop at Stubbs.

http://m.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/14..._Ibrox_budget/

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Warburton starting to crack.......Stubbsy is getting to him.:aok:

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Originally Posted by oldbutdim

It's fair enough really - saying football bosses should only talk about their own club.

He kinda spoils the effect by going on to talk about the Gunts and Hibs.


He really isn't too bright is he.

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I don't really see why it's taken him 2 weeks to comment on it. Again he looks an idiot tho without knowing the full story. AS was straight out asked by the Sportsound guys what the difference in budget was. And Warburton is daft to say how would he know. I'm sure players/staff/agents between the 2 teams talk and have an idea what wages players are on. I'm sure Warburton has an idea what wages Hibs players are on.

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Originally Posted by Smartie

Not sure I agree with this.

They are good players, not the world-beaters our media are bigging them up as but they are good players.

I think they'll be better for playing every week and also for playing with the pressure and expectation of winning every week.

If Tavernier can learn to defend he'll be a magnificent player. And I thought Waghorn was a real handful in our last game against them, he gave us more problems than Aberdeen or Dundee United did.

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Agree about tavernier but I think Waghorn has been nearly invisible in the last 2 games against us. In fairness he's looked decent in games against other sides in the league but feel he struggled to get space against us

Warburton says, " ...... and I don't where he is getting the figures from ( Rangers player budget ) he is just picking figures out of the sky. "


Er , no, Rangers have published last years financial results with the first team playing budget detailed for all to see. ( £ 6.2 million )

Unless over-investing King has cut the player budget by a few million it is several times Hibs player budget.

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Originally Posted by oldbutdim

It's fair enough really - saying football bosses should only talk about their own club.

He kinda spoils the effect by going on to talk about the Gunts and Hibs.


He really isn't too bright is he.

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The Huns should finish their existential debate about what a club is before they talk about themselves.

Warburton is upset at getting a clubbing from Hibs - that's about the size of it.

Didn't stop the GASL talking about other clubs and their supporters with his thinly veiled threats, did it ?

Warburton is a ****ing Hun twat - his ***** in that last link smacks of hypocrisy.

I'm sure he was talking about Scott Allan continually when those morons were putting in their abysmal bids for him.

I would really love it if we could win the league to shut that prick up and the hoardes of zombies that support that disgrace of a club.

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Originally Posted by Spike Mandela

Warburton starting to crack.......Stubbsy is getting to him.:aok:

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All very "respectfully", I'm sure...

To be honest, Warburton touches upon this 'old topic' because of a direct question from the press, who, initially, are the ones trying to stir things up during a slow news period. I'm not defending the nature of his response, but I'm sure he was happy to get the opportunity to deflect attention away from the speculation of English clubs being interested in securing his services. It's a complete non-story in any case.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

I see Douglas Park has rejoined the Sevco board,


http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/sport/...a_second_time/


His son who replaced him when he stepped down is staying on the Board.

Power shift ? Bail out ? just likes the blazer :greengrin

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My guess is that Park will replace King as chairman, be the main source for the loans needed to get the business through this season, and attempt to form a pragmatic working relationship with Ashley.

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Originally Posted by CallumLaidlaw

Agree about tavernier but I think Waghorn has been nearly invisible in the last 2 games against us. In fairness he's looked decent in games against other sides in the league but feel he struggled to get space against us

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History will not be kind to Waghorn - he is destined to become one the worst centre forwards to play for the huns in modern times. However his striking buddy - Nicky Clark - could well be the worst bar none.

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Originally Posted by Jim44

To be honest, Warburton touches upon this 'old topic' because of a direct question from the press, who, initially, are the ones trying to stir things up during a slow news period. I'm not defending the nature of his response, but I'm sure he was happy to get the opportunity to deflect attention away from the speculation of English clubs being interested in securing his services. It's a complete non-story in any case.

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Yeah, but Warburton just slavers nonsense and is never pulled up for it.

Another quote from Warby,

" if you ask about budgets , we had a smaller budget at Brentford and finished 5th. "

Er, no, Brentford's last accounts show a player's budget of £ 9.10 million.

And he's meant to be a City Wizz Kid ! :greengrin

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Originally Posted by ballengeich

My guess is that Park will replace King as chairman, be the main source for the loans needed to get the business through this season, and attempt to form a pragmatic working relationship with Ashley.

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Good call. " Taxi, taxi, my kingdom for a taxi ". "Well, Dave, will a bus do instead?" "Thanks, Douglas" Time will tell.

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Originally Posted by greenginger

Another quote from Warby,

" if you ask about budgets , we had a smaller budget at Brentford and finished 5th. "

Er, no, Brentford's last accounts show a player's budget of £ 9.10 million.

And he's meant to be a City Wizz Kid ! :greengrin

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I'm sure he would have been referring to other teams in The Championship down south. I still wish he would STFU for a while though.

on the subject of Tavernier and Waghorn…

I think with Tavernier there is a player in there (though he was very quiet when up against John McGinn and sitting on an early booking)

But Waghorn really has serious question marks over his temperament.
The minute he or The The Rangers are under pressure he is a red card waiting to happen
He's been lucky in 4 games so far to not be red carded (Easter Road being one of them, the clash with Fyvie) and there were similar elbowing incidents against Falkirk, Livi and one other.

Watch him pick up suspensions from Christmas onwards, I would say

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Originally Posted by Springbank

on the subject of Tavernier and Waghorn…

I think with Tavernier there is a player in there (though he was very quiet when up against John McGinn and sitting on an early booking)

But Waghorn really has serious question marks over his temperament.
The minute he or The The Rangers are under pressure he is a red card waiting to happen
He's been lucky in 4 games so far to not be red carded (Easter Road being one of them, the clash with Fyvie) and there were similar elbowing incidents against Falkirk, Livi and one other.

Watch him pick up suspensions from Christmas onwards, I would say

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I agree re Waghorn's temperament. Not too sure he'd get away with some of what he gets away with at any other club.

I maintain that I think he's a good player though - to the extent that if he were to pick up a silly suspension they'd be a far weaker side.

Same goes for Wallace or Tavernier - positions they have poor cover for and very strong players as first choices.

It is early on Monday morning but already we have a contender for arrogant jerk of the week. Here is Roger Mitchell who is apparently former SPL Chief Executive, on the Rangers saga. Some very enlightening thoughts on just what is important in Scottish football from a former chief.

https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/hate-...-title-comment

Some choice comments:

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I remember clearly our communication director so upset as I ripped into some smaller team overly celebratory for a one off cup win

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Scottish football needs Rangers. They with Celtic represent I'd say 80% of all commercial value around the game. Without the Old Firm, Scottish football would have all the allure of indoor bowling from Coatbridge. Smaller teams can't accept this but they should go and work in the media for a week to understand really what their teams bring to the table. Really, try it.

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