Celtic vs Hibernian

[Bridge hibs]

Most Celtic fans have never seen him play - but the all knowing Hibs.net people know all about him👍🏻

He has played 6 times, albeit mostly as a sub but Im sure the 60,000 celtc fans would know who he was, silly point you are trying to prove.

[Shrekko]

Like I said .... If it does come down to the last game, then at least we will know it's win or bust because we simply can't presume Dundee Utd will get anything at Pittodrie. We will have no game after it to think about, so we can go hell for leather and chuck absolutely everything at it.

It’s at Tannadice which should help.

[Bridge hibs]

Most Celtic fans have never seen him play - but the all knowing Hibs.net people know all about him👍🏻

In case you were sleeping at the time

A number of Scottish clubs are reportedly keen on signing Sligo Rovers’ Johnny Kenny following his stellar first season as a senior player with the Bit O’Red.
Kenny netted 12 Premier Division goals in the same year he completed his Leaving Certificate, and is believed to have attracted plenty of attention in the United Kingdom and further afield in Germany.

The Edinburgh Evening News is reporting that Kenny travelled to Edinburgh to watch their 1-0 victory over Dundee, from the Directors’ box.

The Evening News also reports that the Riverstown native was given a tour of the club’s training facilities, as the club attempted to woo him into considering signing for the Edinburgh side.

But Hibs will face stiff competition for the striker, as Celtic and a number of English clubs are also reportedly interested.

Kenny signed a three year deal with Sligo Rovers in November, keeping him at the club until the end of the 2024 season.

[Unseen work]

We played today, Aberdeen tomorrow. There is a difference in kick off times on Wednesday. I'm not sure that's a coincidence.

Hibs have an extra recovery day than Aberdeen

As to Celtic who are playing Aberdeen

[B.H.F.C]

They have a vastly superior budget and squad to the rest of the league. A league they currently lead by 20 points and which they'd pretty much won by September. They'll be even stronger next season.

Frustrating situation but there's no point getting too down about losing at Celtic.

Aye but you can still be frustrated with things in your own performance. Smith just needs to catch the ball in the lead up to the third, when we’d started the second half well, and it was game over.

Need to move on quickly and go win at St Mirren.

[Pretty Boy]

Hibs have an extra recovery day than Aberdeen

As to Celtic who are playing Aberdeen

I think us playing first this weekend was an advantage as well.

Had we won then Aberdeen all but had to win tomorrow. Now they know we have lost the pressure is still on to get back on level terms.

Had they played and won today and us tomorrow then it would have flipped that pressure onto us.

[JimBHibees]

Getting a result there was always going to be a long shot. In the end all that happened was we lost 2 from a massive goal difference advantage that simply can't be overhauled, unless Aberdeen turn into PSG or Barcelona in the next 24 hours.

If they do win at Ibrox ( hell, even if they get beat ) our biggest problem with two games to go is a Celtic team who have stated they will rest players in midweek and the fact they have an imploding Dundee Utd at Pittodrie on the last day.

The bugger for us is that St Mirren will still have something to play for on Wednesday and with Celtic away as their last game they will absolutely bust a gut to beat us.

We have to hope Aberdeen lose tomorrow or on Wednesday, because at least then no matter what happens 3rd will be in our own hands on the last day and we will know a draw is highly unlikely to be enough. If you had offered us that at the start of December we would have bitten your whole arm off, never mind your hand.

United game is at Tannadice however the point remains re their recent form

[penihibs]

Cadden should have kept running there instead of crossing when he did.

Your bang on.

[Hibspur]

We’ll see.

Have I missed the news that we'll be bringing in a new No 1? If so then I'm surprised. Smith's got the best stats of any keeper in the top flight bar Schmeichel. I'd argue that bringing him in to replace Bursic has been core to our remarkable run of improved form. The team has just played with so much confidence with him between the posts.

Bad mistake today but there's no keeper on earth who doesn't make the occasional slip.

[NAE NOOKIE]

It’s at Tannadice which should help.

I stand corrected, thanks for that mate :aok:

Changes the odds slightly, which isn't a bad thing. Makes a Hibs win at St Mirren even more vital, because if doing that keeps Dundee Utd in contention for 5th, even a long shot at 4th, they will at least have something to play for on the last day. It's just a shame at this point that their form is so poor.

[Stuart93]

Today changes nothing. We were never winning today and even drawing was a big ask.

It’s the next two that’ll decide it

[Nakedmanoncrack]

In case you were sleeping at the time

A number of Scottish clubs are reportedly keen on signing Sligo Rovers’ Johnny Kenny following his stellar first season as a senior player with the Bit O’Red.
Kenny netted 12 Premier Division goals in the same year he completed his Leaving Certificate, and is believed to have attracted plenty of attention in the United Kingdom and further afield in Germany.

The Edinburgh Evening News is reporting that Kenny travelled to Edinburgh to watch their 1-0 victory over Dundee, from the Directors’ box.

The Evening News also reports that the Riverstown native was given a tour of the club’s training facilities, as the club attempted to woo him into considering signing for the Edinburgh side.

But Hibs will face stiff competition for the striker, as Celtic and a number of English clubs are also reportedly interested.

Kenny signed a three year deal with Sligo Rovers in November, keeping him at the club until the end of the 2024 season.

Had that poised for this moment for 3 years? 🤣

[Bridge hibs]

Had that poised for this moment for 3 years? 🤣

You just have to wait for the right moment 😄

[K-Zazu]

Really tough ask today, 4 away games at Celtic Park in one season, has that ever happened before?

[He's here!]

Just a personal thing but I wish we could wear our main kit at Parkhead. I always feel we're a bit diminished in the purple.

There's no major clash, especially if we were to wear green socks. When I first started watching Hibs v Celtic there was never an issue.

[WhileTheChief..]

Today changes nothing. We were never winning today and even drawing was a big ask.

It’s the next two that’ll decide it

Yup.

I’m thinking we’ve done enough already and can lose our last 2 games.

[JohnM1875]

Yup.

I’m thinking we’ve done enough already and can lose our last 2 games.

Aberdeen are three (basically four behind) and have nine points to play for. Dundee United are in freefall so have to fancy Aberdeen to win the last game of the season. So as long as the OF do their job, we should be fine.

I'll be more confident if the Huns win tomorrow.

[He's here!]

Aberdeen are three (basically four behind) and have nine points to play for. Dundee United are in freefall so have to fancy Aberdeen to win the last game of the season. So as long as the OF do their job, we should be fine.

I'll be more confident if the Huns win tomorrow.

Not convinced Aberdeen will win at Tannadice. There's needle in that fixture and if United are trying to cling to fifth they and their fans will be up for it.

[JohnM1875]

Not convinced Aberdeen will win at Tannadice. There's needle in that fixture and if United are trying to cling to fifth they and their fans will be up for it.

Dundee United are awful.

[davym7062]

Just a personal thing but I wish we could wear our main kit at Parkhead. I always feel we're a bit diminished in the purple.

There's no major clash, especially if we were to wear green socks. When I first started watching Hibs v Celtic there was never an issue.

were not allowed to mate same as when they come to us its allways the away top

[Paul1642]

Not reading back through 18 pages so it might have already been said, but if Aberdeen loose tomorrow then it’s been a good gameweek for us. In a very weird way, tomorrows result was realistically almost more important than our own today.

[Shrekko]

After today fourth place is the worst we can finish.

So guaranteed at least two home and away fixtures.

If we get beaten in Europa League qualifiers we then drop down to conference qualifiers.

Does anybody know if we'd be seeded if we dropped to Conference qualifier round?

[Northernhibee]

We need to match the amount of points Aberdeen get in their last two games, and that’s if they win tomorrow.

Just need to hold the nerve.

[tamig]

Rocky header wide

Decent start to the half

Rocky should have scored that header. Again, his poor timing and poor heading ability lets us down.

[tamig]

And that's why you play Bowie instead of Myko, stronger and more skilful, wins a good foul against Scales there.

Our best form over recent weeks has been with Myko starting and Bowie coming off the bench once the defenders have been softened up. We'd probably have won at Aberdeen - or drawn at worst - if SDG had stuck to that formula. Bowie is very effective coming off the bench. I'm surprised that anybody fails to recognise this.

[tamig]

What’s your point ?

What's your point? Did you look at the goals we lost today? There's a bit of deja vu in what I saw with Rocky and Smith and a communication breakdown at the first goal. Its happened before. If Rocky is away next season, hopefully that issue is resolved. Does Rocky get a free pass? You could also question his role in the second. Smith should have done better at the third in the build up but he saved us on more than a few occasions today.

[Fifeshirehibs]

Bizarre that Miller and n Cadden have lost their starting places, assuming fitness. The best form of defence is attack that Hoillet provides has contributed to the two top 6 defeats.

[TrinityHFC]

Bizarre that Miller and n Cadden have lost their starting places, assuming fitness. The best form of defence is attack that Hoillet provides has contributed to the two top 6 defeats.

Cadden lost his place due to being injured. Obita has done really well since coming back in. He was also unfortunate to be out the team as long as he was. It is t really bizarre. I’d like to see Cadden back in but not sure Obita deserves to be dropped as yet.

[He's here!]

were not allowed to mate same as when they come to us its allways the away top

I'm aware. I'm just pointing out that if you look at footage of any match between Hibs and Celtic up until around the mid 80s they both wear their traditional kits with zero issue for those watching in terms of finding it hard to tell the teams apart. In fact there are next to no fixtures where our traditional kit clashes with our opponents. It's all down to marketing.

Personally I've never liked purple in a Hibs strip.

[bordergreen]

For me, Gray got it wrong again today. You have to have a mix of of in your face and sitting back against Celtic. We were too happy sit back first half. Their defence is shaky without Carter Vickers. We should have got right in about them. Once you start spreading panic in their backline, that takes away from the rest of the team. They are not Supermen. Hopefully he learns from that. Got it wrong at Aberdeen too. Hopefully the Huns are on it tomorrow.

[He's here!]

For me, Gray got it wrong again today. You have to have a mix of of in your face and sitting back against Celtic. We were too happy sit back first half. Their defence is shaky without Carter Vickers. We should have got right in about them. Once you start spreading panic in their backline, that takes away from the rest of the team. They are not Supermen. Hopefully he learns from that. Got it wrong at Aberdeen too. Hopefully the Huns are on it tomorrow.

Yet we took the lead (Boyle could have had two) and were winning until the 42nd minute by 'sitting back'?

[bordergreen]

Yet we took the lead (Boyle could have had two) and were winning until the 42nd minute by 'sitting back'?

They were all over us. We were pinned back most of the first half. Don’t know what game you were watching. You can’t go hung ho against Celtic, as they will rip you a new one. I know that, especially at Parkhead. They do rely on Carter Vickers a lot though. They were shaky at the back without him. Watch Boyle’s goal again. Came out of them being panicky. I would have liked to have seen us test that more.

I want Sir David to be great, as much as any other Hibby, but, for me, he got today wrong. As he got it wrong at Aberdeen.

As I said. Hopefully he learns from these games. Every day is a school day, for all of us…

[Donegal Hibby]

They were all over us. We were pinned back most of the first half. Don’t know what game you were watching. You can’t go hung ho against Celtic, as they will rip you a new one. I know that, especially at Parkhead. They do rely on Carter Vickers a lot though. They were shaky at the back without him. Watch Boyle’s goal again. Came out of them being panicky. I would have liked to have seen us test that more.

I want Sir David to be great, as much as any other Hibby, but, for me, he got today wrong. As he got it wrong at Aberdeen.

As I said. Hopefully he learns from these games. Every day is a school day, for all of us…

The last home game they had before us they won 5-1 with the away team having only 12 % possession and 1 shot on target. The game after that they went to Dundee U and won 5-0 .

I think it’s probably fair to say we aren’t the only team they have been all over or have pinned back this season ..

Did Gray get it wrong? I honestly don’t think so but as I said before it’s hard to make a balanced and fair assessment considering the massive difference between the teams .

[bordergreen]

The last home game they had before us they won 5-1 with the away team having only 12 % possession and 1 shot on target. The game after that they went to Dundee U and won 5-0 .

I think it’s probably fair to say we aren’t the only team they have been all over or have pinned back this season ..

Did Gray get it wrong? I honestly don’t think so but as I said before it’s hard to make a balanced and fair assessment considering the massive difference between the teams .

I think he got it wrong. Do you think he got it right at Aberdeen too? Not calling you out, just interested in your perspective on that one. Celtic’s players are very comfortable on the ball, they looked very comfortable, for most of the game. They didn’t look great when we got in about them. As I said above, watch Boyle’s goal again.

You can’t go hung ho, as I also said, I just think we would have been better having the players on to unsettle them more. Without Carter Vickers, they are more vulnerable at the back. Bowie and Cadden are the type of players who could have exploited that, as seen when they came on.

I want Gray to be at Hibs for many years to come, and to increase his legend. He is not immune to criticism though. As I said, I hope he has learned from both games.

[Donegal Hibby]

I think he got it wrong. Do you think he got it right at Aberdeen too? Not calling you out, just interested in your perspective on that one. Celtic’s players are very comfortable on the ball, they looked very comfortable, for most of the game. They didn’t look great when we got in about them. As I said above, watch Boyle’s goal again.

You can’t go hung ho, as I also said, I just think we would have been better having the players on to unsettle them more. Without Carter Vickers, they are more vulnerable at the back. Bowie and Cadden are the type of players who could have exploited that, as seen when they came on.

I want Gray to be at Hibs for many years to come, and to increase his legend. He is not immune to criticism though. As I said, I hope he has learned from both games.

What did he get wrong against Aberdeen exactly? . Celtic’s players are very comfortable on the ball and dominate most teams they play in our league.

I don’t really need to watch Boyle’s goal again because I know we had moments in the game which is why I didn’t think we done that badly against a team that’s on a different level from our own ..

I think Myko starting and Bowie coming on later has been working, Obita has been playing well and Cadden’s just came back from an injury . I actually think Gray manages players well coming back from injury and doesn’t take chances with them …

I think Gray could read every book under the sun on how to be a better manager but going to parkhead we are always up against it in fairness.

[Speedy]

Have I missed the news that we'll be bringing in a new No 1? If so then I'm surprised. Smith's got the best stats of any keeper in the top flight bar Schmeichel. I'd argue that bringing him in to replace Bursic has been core to our remarkable run of improved form. The team has just played with so much confidence with him between the posts.

Bad mistake today but there's no keeper on earth who doesn't make the occasional slip.

Bursik needs replace. Sure we all agree on that.

I don't see us signing someone to come in as a designated backup. It'll be someone coming in who wants to be first choice. Gray will have pre-season to assess whether it remains Smith or whether the new guy gets the gloves.

[Unseen work]

I don’t think we tried to sit in as such, I think we just struggled to get out whatsoever.

Big difference

Celtic started the game brilliant and with real intensity, we could hardly string 5 passes together.

[Onion]

Not reading back through 18 pages so it might have already been said, but if Aberdeen loose tomorrow then it’s been a good gameweek for us. In a very weird way, tomorrows result was realistically almost more important than our own today.

See the logic and agree with this. However another way of looking it is Hibs had/has 4 opportunities to effectively take 3rd place - staring with the match in Aberdeen. So it's :

Aberdeen X
Celtic X
St Mirren
The Rangers

Aberdeen messed up against The Rangers (2-2) and St Mirren (1-0). Hopefully they still have that in them, but I'd sooner Hibs just killed them off and beat St Mirren. Given the potential prize and where we were in Nov, this is the best end to a season since '16.

[Centre Hawf]

I don’t think we tried to sit in as such, I think we just struggled to get out whatsoever.

Big difference

Celtic started the game brilliant and with real intensity, we could hardly string 5 passes together.

I agree. I think the team and system we played was a spot on idea to try and get something and had we lasted until half-time you never know what could have happened second half.

I don’t believe we went to sit in. If anything first half our back line was too high and the wing backs caught out often.

[Trinity Hibee]

I don’t think we tried to sit in as such, I think we just struggled to get out whatsoever.

Big difference

Celtic started the game brilliant and with real intensity, we could hardly string 5 passes together.

We struggled to get out and at the same time struggled to stop them cutting through us in the first half. Easier said than done against a team like Celtic, we were always up against it even after taking the lead

[B.H.F.C]

I agree. I think the team and system we played was a spot on idea to try and get something and had we lasted until half-time you never know what could have happened second half.

I don’t believe we went to sit in. If anything first half our back line was too high and the wing backs caught out often.

I thought our line was fine. Celtic must have been offside half a dozen times first half and that was intentional on our part I thought. The first goal obviously change things massively and it was really poor. Rocky could/should have just dealt with the ball but was more interested in Idah.

Our quality on the ball just wasn’t there when we had it. Loads of ‘what if’ moments.

[bordergreen]

What did he get wrong against Aberdeen exactly? . Celtic’s players are very comfortable on the ball and dominate most teams they play in our league.

I don’t really need to watch Boyle’s goal again because I know we had moments in the game which is why I didn’t think we done that badly against a team that’s on a different level from our own ..

I think Myko starting and Bowie coming on later has been working, Obita has been playing well and Cadden’s just came back from an injury . I actually think Gray manages players well coming back from injury and doesn’t take chances with them …

I think Gray could read every book under the sun on how to be a better manager but going to parkhead we are always up against it in fairness.

At Aberdeen, I thought from very early on in the game that we looked like we were not going to break them down with the way we were set up. I would like to see changes made earlier in games like that. I thought we looked like we could play all day, and not score. Just my opinion. But we didn’t score. Yesterday he went too defensive for me. I would have liked to have seen us get in about them more from the start. We should have had at least one of N Cadden or Hoilett on for a bit more creativity. As I have said, I thought they looked shaky at the back without Carter Vickers. I would have liked us to test that more. Start getting them nervous at the back. Doesn’t allow them to play their game across the pitch. You see it differently to me. Doesn’t mean I am wrong.

As I have also said. I hope Gray is with us for many years to come and is successful. That doesn’t mean that I can’t question his decisions at times.

[Fifeshirehibs]

We are back losing farcical goals again, the ones Miller was preventing.

[bordergreen]

We are back losing farcical goals again, the ones Miller was preventing.

Agreed, I don’t know why he is playing O’hora instead. We are much better with Miller in there.

[Hibspur]

They were all over us. We were pinned back most of the first half. Don’t know what game you were watching. You can’t go hung ho against Celtic, as they will rip you a new one. I know that, especially at Parkhead. They do rely on Carter Vickers a lot though. They were shaky at the back without him. Watch Boyle’s goal again. Came out of them being panicky. I would have liked to have seen us test that more.

I want Sir David to be great, as much as any other Hibby, but, for me, he got today wrong. As he got it wrong at Aberdeen.

As I said. Hopefully he learns from these games. Every day is a school day, for all of us…

Unless we are blessed with investment which changes the dynamic of Scottish football I think you need to temper your expectations.

We haven't won at Celtic in 22 games and I think we've won just twice there this century. Even draws are few and far between and better Hibs sides than the current one have struggled to get out of their own half irrespective of tactics.

I agree with those who thought Gray set us up fine yesterday, we just couldn't cope with their superior quality across the pitch and compounded that with a couple of costly mistakes.

[LewysGot2]

Unless we are blessed with investment which changes the dynamic of Scottish football I think you need to temper your expectations.

We haven't won at Celtic in 22 games and I think we've won just twice there this century. Even draws are few and far between and better Hibs sides than the current one have struggled to get out of their own half irrespective of tactics.

I agree with those who thought Gray set us up fine yesterday, we just couldn't cope with their superior quality across the pitch and compounded that with a couple of costly mistakes.

Agree

If you are playing them you need a good game plan, luck, all of your players being 10/10 and no refereeing muck ups. All of that.

yesterday not all players were 10/10. We got only a wee bit luck. It was roasting hot and physically a big ask at the end of the season to chase a deficit on a big pitch. Timing of goals was very important. We scored first - that was needed. We went from 1-0 up to 2-1 down between 40mins and HT. That was Gut punching. Once it went to 3 we needed to think about Wednesday and move on…

[Fifth Amendmen]

Agreed, I don’t know why he is playing O’hora instead. We are much better with Miller in there.

When's O'Horas contract up? Imo not seen any improvement since he was signed.

[Trinity Hibee]

When's O'Horas contract up? Imo not seen any improvement since he was signed.

2 years left

[He's here!]

I thought our line was fine. Celtic must have been offside half a dozen times first half and that was intentional on our part I thought. The first goal obviously change things massively and it was really poor. Rocky could/should have just dealt with the ball but was more interested in Idah.

Our quality on the ball just wasn’t there when we had it. Loads of ‘what if’ moments.

Fair summary I think.

[He's here!]

Agreed, I don’t know why he is playing O’hora instead. We are much better with Miller in there.

Miller's been injured I thought?

[bordergreen]

Agree

If you are playing them you need a good game plan, luck, all of your players being 10/10 and no refereeing muck ups. All of that.

yesterday not all players were 10/10. We got only a wee bit luck. It was roasting hot and physically a big ask at the end of the season to chase a deficit on a big pitch. Timing of goals was very important. We scored first - that was needed. We went from 1-0 up to 2-1 down between 40mins and HT. That was Gut punching. Once it went to 3 we needed to think about Wednesday and move on…

Opinions eh! I thought they were there for the taking. If you let them play their game, they will wipe the floor with you. They looked shaky in defence when we got forward. I would have liked to have seen more of that. I think we could and should have exploited that.

[Kato]

Opinions eh! I thought they were there for the taking. If you let them play their game, they will wipe the floor with you. They looked shaky in defence when we got forward. I would have liked to have seen more of that. I think we could and should have exploited that.How would you have achieved that?

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[Donegal Hibby]

At Aberdeen, I thought from very early on in the game that we looked like we were not going to break them down with the way we were set up. I would like to see changes made earlier in games like that. I thought we looked like we could play all day, and not score. Just my opinion. But we didn’t score. Yesterday he went too defensive for me. I would have liked to have seen us get in about them more from the start. We should have had at least one of N Cadden or Hoilett on for a bit more creativity. As I have said, I thought they looked shaky at the back without Carter Vickers. I would have liked us to test that more. Start getting them nervous at the back. Doesn’t allow them to play their game across the pitch. You see it differently to me. Doesn’t mean I am wrong.

As I have also said. I hope Gray is with us for many years to come and is successful. That doesn’t mean that I can’t question his decisions at times.

I didn’t think they were really testing our keeper either tbh , not until near the end anyhow . If you look at the previous games both which we won 2-0 and 3-1 there’s not a really a massive difference between the team that won them two to the one that lost …

2-0 win…Gayle in for Bowie and Cadden in for Obita . That’s it as far as I can see.

3-1 win…Newell in for Levitt , Youan in for Bowie and Cadden in for Obita . Only creative player we were missing from them wins compared to our defeat was N.Cadden who’s just came back from injury and the likelihood is his minutes are getting managed because of this which is probably good management on Gray’s part . I see you mention Miller too , was he not injured as well recently? .

[bordergreen]

I didn’t think they were really testing our keeper either tbh , not until near the end anyhow . If you look at the previous games both which we won 2-0 and 3-1 there’s not a really a massive difference between the team that won them two to the one that lost …

2-0 win…Gayle in for Bowie and Cadden in for Obita . That’s it as far as I can see.

3-1 win…Newell in for Levitt , Youan in for Bowie and Cadden in for Obita . Only creative player we were missing from them wins compared to our defeat was N.Cadden who’s just came back from injury and the likelihood is his minutes are getting managed because of this which is probably good management on Gray’s part . I see you mention Miller too , was he not injured as well recently? .


You think I am wrong. I think you are wrong. I stick by, we should not leave most of our creativity out of the team and that Celtic looked shaky at the back. When Gray has tried to go too defensive, it hasn’t worked. Both at Aberdeen and Celtic. That is my opinion and you won’t be changing that. At the end of the day, we are all Hibees and want us to be the best. Even if you are wrong 😉

[500miles]

Today changes nothing. We were never winning today and even drawing was a big ask.

It’s the next two that’ll decide it

We could have won, but we’d need to have a great day and they’d need to drop off. Didn’t happen, we move on to a game we have much more control over.

[Kato]

When Gray has tried to go too defensive, it hasn’t worked. Both at Aberdeen....

We had more possession and more attempts at goal at Pittodrie when we lost than we did at Easter Road when we won.

It's just fine margins, we weren't defensive at Pittodrie at all, just didn't take our chances or get a break.

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[JimBHibees]

Bizarre that Miller and n Cadden have lost their starting places, assuming fitness. The best form of defence is attack that Hoillet provides has contributed to the two top 6 defeats.

Can understand Cadden not starting as Obita has been very good recently. Don’t understand Miller not starting in place of ohora