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tamig
11-05-2025, 06:53 PM
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Another great one. Keep them coming 😂
babahibs
11-05-2025, 06:55 PM
Aye, right.
Eight straight European qualifications, including four straight second place finishes. The club's first cup win in 20 years, three other cup finals (all of which were lost to Celtic) and five cup semi-finals on top of that.
That level of consistency in the league is what you want to see as a season ticket holder, not just an occasional cup win.
He did a great job there. Those pretending otherwise are just looking for ways to make out Hearts have picked another dud. He'll make them competitive again unfortunately.
Hopefully you're wrong, I think you are.
tamig
11-05-2025, 06:59 PM
Aye, right.
Eight straight European qualifications, including four straight second place finishes. The club's first cup win in 20 years, three other cup finals (all of which were lost to Celtic) and five cup semi-finals on top of that.
That level of consistency in the league is what you want to see as a season ticket holder, not just an occasional cup win.
He did a great job there. Those pretending otherwise are just looking for ways to make out Hearts have picked another dud. He'll make them competitive again unfortunately.
As has been mentioned already, the timing was perfect. Hun and hertz in financial turmoil, us on a downward slope. It was ripe for someone filling the breach. McInnes took full advantage. But the trophy count was poor. The league consistency was undoubtedly assisted positively because of others woes. Its perfectly valid.
You also conveniently overlook his failure against St J in another final.
Hibspur
11-05-2025, 07:02 PM
McInnes is a solid SPL manager who will have Hearts pushing for top 4-5 every season. So it’s a sensible appointment on one level. On another level he’s been around for a while and a new breed of footballers might just feel he’s a yesterday man dialing it in and grown demotivated after a season and a half.
Obviously I hope it’s diminishing returns but who knows. But it seems the mark of a treading water club rather than one going forward.
Agree with all of what you say there, especially that last bit. In fact I wouldn't say they're even treading water, they're splashing hastily back to shore after getting out of their depth with an analytics experiment they don't really understand.
This is the club that sacked Neilson twice while sitting third and fourth in the table, handed Naismith a new long-term deal then sacked him when they hit the first bump in the road, before lauding Critchley as the perfect fit for their plans.
McInnes, of course, will be a manager they claim to have 'long admired' and put a lot of time and effort into bringing to Hearts despite the fact they could have brought him in years ago.
Mcbizz1998
11-05-2025, 07:05 PM
Shelley Kerr as his assistant according to a pal for mine.
Surely not 😂
Victor
11-05-2025, 07:11 PM
Shelley Kerr as his assistant according to a pal for mine.
Surely not [emoji23]
Anne Budge as his physio and Lord Foulkes as his kitman I heard
Stevie Reid
11-05-2025, 07:18 PM
As has been mentioned already, the timing was perfect. Hun and hertz in financial turmoil, us on a downward slope. It was ripe for someone filling the breach. McInnes took full advantage. But the trophy count was poor. The league consistency was undoubtedly assisted positively because of others woes. Its perfectly valid.
You also conveniently overlook his failure against St J in another final.
What final was that?
K-Zazu
11-05-2025, 07:19 PM
Shelley Kerr as his assistant according to a pal for mine.
Surely not 😂
I heard it was Neil McCann?
Billy Whizz
11-05-2025, 07:19 PM
As has been mentioned already, the timing was perfect. Hun and hertz in financial turmoil, us on a downward slope. It was ripe for someone filling the breach. McInnes took full advantage. But the trophy count was poor. The league consistency was undoubtedly assisted positively because of others woes. Its perfectly valid.
You also conveniently overlook his failure against St J in another final.
One major trophy in his 780 or so managerial career. Hardly prolific. As it’s the League Cup he won at Aberdeen, maybe that’s the one Queen Anne wants at Tynie
hibsbollah
11-05-2025, 07:20 PM
Anne Budge as his physio and Lord Foulkes as his kitman I heard
Nurse Ratchet and mr. Pishy breek stains show nicely on a maroon shirt…
Hibspur
11-05-2025, 07:22 PM
As has been mentioned already, the timing was perfect. Hun and hertz in financial turmoil, us on a downward slope. It was ripe for someone filling the breach. McInnes took full advantage. But the trophy count was poor. The league consistency was undoubtedly assisted positively because of others woes. Its perfectly valid.
You also conveniently overlook his failure against St J in another final.
You'll need to remind me when that happened. As far as I can recall St Johnstone beat Dundee Utd, Livingston and ourselves to win their trio of cups.
I don't buy the view that only trophies are the measure of a successful manager, especially in Scotland where Celtic and Rangers have historically hoovered up the overwhelming majority of them. There are plenty of managers who've won a solitary trophy but done next to nothing else in the game. McInnes, like so many others, came up against Celtic in the finals he didn't win but enjoyed terrific consistency in the league year after year. There was only one season when Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were all out of the top flight and apart from Rangers I'm not even sure that was an especially big advantage to him. We were hardly jousting for second place in the years prior to our relegation so you can't claim Aberdeen 'filled the breach' left by crap Hibs and Hearts sides.
I hope he proves to be a disastrous appointment by Hearts, but there's no question he was one of Aberdeen's best managers (all of whom live in the gigantic shadow of Fergie, whose achievements there were freakishly awesome).
Stevie Reid
11-05-2025, 07:34 PM
You'll need to remind me when that happened. As far as I can recall St Johnstone beat Dundee Utd, Livingston and ourselves to win their trio of cups.
I don't buy the view that only trophies are the measure of a successful manager, especially in Scotland where Celtic and Rangers have historically hoovered up the overwhelming majority of them. There are plenty of managers who've won a solitary trophy but done next to nothing else in the game. McInnes, like so many others, came up against Celtic in the finals he didn't win but enjoyed terrific consistency in the league year after year. There was only one season when Hibs, Hearts and Rangers were all out of the top flight and apart from Rangers I'm not even sure that was an especially big advantage to him. We were hardly jousting for second place in the years prior to our relegation so you can't claim Aberdeen 'filled the breach' left by crap Hibs and Hearts sides.
I hope he proves to be a disastrous appointment by Hearts, but there's no question he was one of Aberdeen's best managers (all of whom live in the gigantic shadow of Fergie, whose achievements there were freakishly awesome).
Couldn’t agree more with this. If Hearts had an appointed say, Calum Davidson, would those detracting McInnes seriously be arguing that they’d appointed a better manager?
He is - at the very least - a remarkably consistent manager, who continually has teams punching their weight, if not more. He’s pretty much the last manager that I’d want them to appoint.
Hillsidehibby
11-05-2025, 07:42 PM
He’s the media’s choice. He’s Awright.
Billy Whizz
11-05-2025, 07:48 PM
He’s the media’s choice. He’s Awright.
I didn’t realise McInnes was on Sky today for the Rangers v Dons game. Boyd going on in front of him saying that he was due a chance at a big club
McInnes with speculation around him should have pulled out of the programme
Lacks class and I’m sure the killie fans will drive him to Tynie now
S4uzee
11-05-2025, 08:03 PM
I didn’t realise McInnes was on Sky today for the Rangers v Dons game. Boyd going on in front of him saying that he was due a chance at a big club
McInnes with speculation around him should have pulled out of the programme
Lacks class and I’m sure the killie fans will drive him to Tynie now
Thought it was very poor too. Think it was mostly Boyd though. Wonder if he’ll be at ibrox every week when he becomes hearts manager
Hibees1973
11-05-2025, 08:12 PM
I didn’t realise McInnes was on Sky today for the Rangers v Dons game. Boyd going on in front of him saying that he was due a chance at a big club
McInnes with speculation around him should have pulled out of the programme
Lacks class and I’m sure the killie fans will drive him to Tynie now
Agree with this. 'I'm not going to speculate, but I'm quite happy to take part today and wallow in all your comments'.
While McInnes seems a decent guy, in the past he has been guilty of self gratification. Remember clearly him saying numerous times ' our record here is great', 'haven't been beaten here for X amount of games'.
If he was that great, he would have won several more trophies in the years he has managed in Scotland.
By the way these cartoons have taken the Yam to a new level. In my years of being next to this crew they have always come across as a stuffy, old fashioned, establishment lot. Kind of like the slippers McKinlay is wearing.
He's here!
11-05-2025, 08:47 PM
Couldn’t agree more with this. If Hearts had an appointed say, Calum Davidson, would those detracting McInnes seriously be arguing that they’d appointed a better manager?
He is - at the very least - a remarkably consistent manager, who continually has teams punching their weight, if not more. He’s pretty much the last manager that I’d want them to appoint.
If he'd taken the Hibs job instead of the Aberdeen one and had us 2nd four years running and into Europe eight years in a row (while Hearts got relegated twice) we sure wouldn't be coming out with absurd claims that he 'grossly underachieved'!
He's here!
11-05-2025, 08:58 PM
One major trophy in his 780 or so managerial career. Hardly prolific. As it’s the League Cup he won at Aberdeen, maybe that’s the one Queen Anne wants at Tynie
By that measure the likes of John Collins or Tommy Wright were equally successful managers as McInnes. It's his circa 800 games managing at a good level which is the mark of his standing in the game, not the fact he didn't manage to beat Celtic to the title or in three cup finals.
As someone else has pointed out would we really regard Calum Davidson as a manager we'd fear more at Hearts? I'm not saying McInnes should strike fear into us, far from it, but he's got a consistent record of success with every Scottish club he's managed, especially the sheep.
Bostonhibby
11-05-2025, 09:47 PM
He'll do okay there, it might be their inflated sense of importance and scale that sees him go the same way as Naisy and the Critch.
I just have this image of their golf guy having to get their "head" of IT in to show him how to thump M C I N N E S into the yamalytics computer one big finger at a time.
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Billy Bunter 07
11-05-2025, 09:53 PM
You have to wonder how it will work with the super computer choosing players for him?
Good manager, I thought they would go head coach mind you. Reckon they will finish 3rd next season then sack him the following, I can actually see a pattern starting of both us and them rotating in third.
neil7908
11-05-2025, 09:53 PM
He's such a Hearts appointment. I never fancied the guy at Hibs for that reason. I know that sounds ridiculous and tribal but the more I've thought about it the more it seemed right.
He'll get them winning a few more games playing ***** football, as is their tradition, but it's not an appointment that gives me any cause for concern. We know exactly what we'll be up against, with zero surprises about the style of play or type of signings they'll go for.
They are also poaching a manager who has taken his club to the lofty heights of 9th, level on points with the mighty Ross County in 10th.
hibsbollah
11-05-2025, 10:01 PM
Its totally irrelevant if WE think he’ll be a success for them or not. Personally ive always thought he was a prick, his teams were god awful to watch when they came to ER and i never wanted him to manage us, despite his little coterie of fans on here who bored us all about how he was the obvious appointment.
One things for sure, he’s never achieved the run SDG has just taken our team on. And now, he’s a hearts flump. We’ll see how it pans out between the two managers, but i know who my money would be on.
Not In The Know
11-05-2025, 10:03 PM
McInnes is a solid SPL manager who will have Hearts pushing for top 4-5 every season. So it’s a sensible appointment on one level. On another level he’s been around for a while and a new breed of footballers might just feel he’s a yesterday man dialing it in and grown demotivated after a season and a half.
Obviously I hope it’s diminishing returns but who knows. But it seems the mark of a treading water club rather than one going forward.
Sums it up perfectly.
The question any decent journalist should be asking is what made the new analytics pishy system they hanged their hat on with Critchley suddenly then decide he was the answer.
Not In The Know
11-05-2025, 10:07 PM
Also classic bit of trolling from Stuart Cosgrove this weekend saying when St Johnstone went on a record breaking undefeated streak under McInnes they sold less season tickets cause it was so mind numbingly dull to watch.
Stuart93
11-05-2025, 10:21 PM
Btw, killie have 9 away victories in 3 years under mcinnes.
He doesn’t travel well
Donegal Hibby
11-05-2025, 10:28 PM
Btw, killie have 9 away victories in 3 years under mcinnes.
He doesn’t travel well
Lucky they have a better record at home , wonder why? He did say the pitch was a little sticky though after their Dundee win so maybe that’s got something to do with it 😆
tamig
11-05-2025, 11:35 PM
What final was that?
Semi sorry 🫢
1van Sprou7e
11-05-2025, 11:52 PM
Btw, killie have 9 away victories in 3 years under mcinnes.
He doesn’t travel well
That is a mental stat
SaulGoodman
12-05-2025, 12:16 AM
Wonder if they’ll have him appointed in time for the final derby of the season. It must be soon, right?
Iain G
12-05-2025, 05:51 AM
Wonder if they’ll have him appointed in time for the final derby of the season. It must be soon, right?
I can't seem to find it in the fixture list on the Hibs website, surely some mistake?!
JimBHibees
12-05-2025, 06:03 AM
Even if they open talks with McInnes there's no guarantee he'll take it as we saw at Aberdeen. He's an extremely cautious manager.
He’s taking it imo his star has dimmed a bit this season. Good opportunity to get a job at a level below the big two. Good motivator and will get team organised and aggressive. If like Killie who played regularly a back 4 made up of four huge centre backs. Two wingers and big target up front. His Jimmy Calderwood obsession with a fake tan is a bit odd. Will now be even more referred to as Del given his media darling status. Speaks well.
JimBHibees
12-05-2025, 06:07 AM
Btw, killie have 9 away victories in 3 years under mcinnes.
He doesn’t travel well
That is horrific not huge surprise given his quite basic style which will likely work well at the Tiny pitch in home games. He built two or three very good teams at Aberdeen at a time Celtic had a very good team.
Listened to the Hearts scarves around funnel podcast two or three weeks back when Critchley sacked and they seemed to be favouring McGlynn out of currently Scottish based managers because of a better style of football than either Mcinnes or Robinson. Seemed to think the latter two would likely do well for a year and then fans would bet bored of the style.
LancsHibs
12-05-2025, 06:19 AM
After thier left field ‘let’s try something knew’ based on analytics appointment it’s time for the safe pair of hands, ‘knows Scottish Football’ SPL merry go round manager.
JimBHibees
12-05-2025, 06:23 AM
After thier left field ‘let’s try something knew’ based on analytics appointment it’s time for the safe pair of hands, ‘knows Scottish Football’ SPL merry go round manager.
Yep definitely the safe if a little dull bet
JimBHibees
12-05-2025, 06:25 AM
Its totally irrelevant if WE think he’ll be a success for them or not. Personally ive always thought he was a prick, his teams were god awful to watch when they came to ER and i never wanted him to manage us, despite his little coterie of fans on here who bored us all about how he was the obvious appointment.
One things for sure, he’s never achieved the run SDG has just taken our team on. And now, he’s a hearts flump. We’ll see how it pans out between the two managers, but i know who my money would be on.
Yes don’t think it will be too long before most of us think he is one also
Since452
12-05-2025, 06:30 AM
I wanted us to appoint McInnes after the Maloney and Montgomery disasters just for a bit of nous and stability. He'll steady the ship there and have them guaranteed top 5.
I'm obviously delighted with the job David Gray is doing so I'm glad we didn't in hindsight but McInnes will be a good appointment for them. No doubt.
hibsbollah
12-05-2025, 06:30 AM
Yes don’t think it will be too long before most of us think he is one also
Its a logical appointment; I like the good guys (in green) to be managed by a good guy, and the pricks (in maroon) to be managed by a prick. Call me old-fashioned :greengrin
Hibs4185
12-05-2025, 06:37 AM
Can anyone else imagine a little computer with a red flashing light, smoke coming out of it and a hazard sound going crazy? That’ll be their wee computer if they appoint McInnes
Paulie Walnuts
12-05-2025, 07:07 AM
Lucky they have a better record at home , wonder why? He did say the pitch was a little sticky though after their Dundee win so maybe that’s got something to do with it 😆
Most teams have a better record at home.
The plastic pitch advantage is massively overplayed imo. All footballers nowadays will have played masses of football on plastic pitches in their formative years. They’ll regularly train on plastic pitches and will often play on one numerous times throughout a season against numerous different sides. The way people talk about it you’d think they were making teams play on the moon.
green day
12-05-2025, 07:08 AM
There is a suggestion that McInnes was one of those the Jamestown laptop offered up after Naismith was binned - but Budge vetoed it.
If true, and they now say they want a manager with Scottish experience, then it shows their board is all over the place.
I have my doubts about the story though, just seems a wee bit too convenient.
Since452
12-05-2025, 07:35 AM
There is a suggestion that McInnes was one of those the Jamestown laptop offered up after Naismith was binned - but Budge vetoed it.
If true, and they now say they want a manager with Scottish experience, then it shows their board is all over the place.
I have my doubts about the story though, just seems a wee bit too convenient.
It's like they're stumbling from one manager to the other hoping that it clicks. No real plan. Reminds me a wee bit of us pre Malky.
Bostonhibby
12-05-2025, 07:39 AM
Can anyone else imagine a little computer with a red flashing light, smoke coming out of it and a hazard sound going crazy? That’ll be their wee computer if they appoint McInnesCan't get this out my head.
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Doesn’t bother me who manages any opponent ,it’s what we do that counts
Hibspur
12-05-2025, 07:54 AM
Its totally irrelevant if WE think he’ll be a success for them or not. Personally ive always thought he was a prick, his teams were god awful to watch when they came to ER and i never wanted him to manage us, despite his little coterie of fans on here who bored us all about how he was the obvious appointment.
One things for sure, he’s never achieved the run SDG has just taken our team on. And now, he’s a hearts flump. We’ll see how it pans out between the two managers, but i know who my money would be on.
He's never really struck me as a prick:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20241363
It didn't work out for him at City, but we stayed near that part of the world at the time and the club was on the slide after over-stretching itself trying to reach the top flight so there was an element of sympathy for him.
Also, is it so unreasonable that while Hibs were flailing around aimlessly and burning our way through a series of unremarkable managers that a guy who had a club of similar size consistently punching its weight over many years was regarded by a good number of fans as someone worth considering? Obviously none of us would want him instead of SDG now, but then none of us could have predicted that Gray would come good in such spectacular fashion. Prior to our current run of form, punching our weight seemed like a pipe dream.
FWIW McInnes did break a couple of notable records set by Alex Ferguson, eight straight wins to start a season and 10 straight wins at Pittodrie.
You don't need to be a McInnes 'fan' to acknowledge he's got a good record in Scotland as a manager.
scm70nyd1973
12-05-2025, 08:02 AM
I am glad they haven’t gone for Robinson.
Robinson has done exceptionally well with the Buddies and they are about the same size of club as Killie.
McInnes has flirted with relegation a couple of times so he can carry on that trend with the Poppy Pilferers as far as I am concerned.
CraigHibee
12-05-2025, 08:04 AM
Doesn’t bother me who manages any opponent ,it’s what we do that counts
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Not In The Know
12-05-2025, 08:17 AM
One things for sure, on the smallest pitch in the top flight they will not let many goals in due to his ultra negative tactics. Let snooze fest begin.
Hibspur
12-05-2025, 08:20 AM
He’s taking it imo his star has dimmed a bit this season. Good opportunity to get a job at a level below the big two. Good motivator and will get team organised and aggressive. If like Killie who played regularly a back 4 made up of four huge centre backs. Two wingers and big target up front. His Jimmy Calderwood obsession with a fake tan is a bit odd. Will now be even more referred to as Del given his media darling status. Speaks well.
Of course he's taking it, but I think that's a fair point about his star having dimmed a bit. Done a solid job at Killie IMO but I'm hoping his best days are behind him. As a fifty-something he's hardly old, but he's been in management a long time by today's standards and unless you land the Celtic job (and to a lesser extent these days the Rangers job) there's only so far you can go in the Scottish game. You'd imagine it could all start to feel a little stale when you've been operating in the same environment for so long.
Alfred E Newman
12-05-2025, 08:24 AM
I heard it was Neil McCann?
Not much difference. McCann is maybe better looking.
BILLYHIBS
12-05-2025, 08:33 AM
He's never really struck me as a prick:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20241363
It didn't work out for him at City, but we stayed near that part of the world at the time and the club was on the slide after over-stretching itself trying to reach the top flight so there was an element of sympathy for him.
Also, is it so unreasonable that while Hibs were flailing around aimlessly and burning our way through a series of unremarkable managers that a guy who had a club of similar size consistently punching its weight over many years was regarded by a good number of fans as someone worth considering? Obviously none of us would want him instead of SDG now, but then none of us could have predicted that Gray would come good in such spectacular fashion. Prior to our current run of form, punching our weight seemed like a pipe dream.
FWIW McInnes did break a couple of notable records set by Alex Ferguson, eight straight wins to start a season and 10 straight wins at Pittodrie.
You don't need to be a McInnes 'fan' to acknowledge he's got a good record in Scotland as a manager.
Eight years at Aberdeen One League Cup three League runners up without The Rangers Hibs and Hearts and loads of dire anti football in between he must have hated the sight of Brenda Rodgers’ Celtic
The Aberdeen fans wanted him gone after his dull toothless team set another record of one goal in his last nine games
No doubt McInnes will set Hearts up to be dour well drilled and hard to break down and beat with his spoiling tactics
Fair play to the guy he has been full of praise for the job SDG and his team have done at Hibs
His Hearts career will be defined by how he performs in the Edinburgh derby because that is all they live for 😀
The Hearts fans are already rubbing their hands in anticipation
Viva_Palmeiras
12-05-2025, 08:58 AM
He's never really struck me as a prick:
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/20241363
It didn't work out for him at City, but we stayed near that part of the world at the time and the club was on the slide after over-stretching itself trying to reach the top flight so there was an element of sympathy for him.
Also, is it so unreasonable that while Hibs were flailing around aimlessly and burning our way through a series of unremarkable managers that a guy who had a club of similar size consistently punching its weight over many years was regarded by a good number of fans as someone worth considering? Obviously none of us would want him instead of SDG now, but then none of us could have predicted that Gray would come good in such spectacular fashion. Prior to our current run of form, punching our weight seemed like a pipe dream.
FWIW McInnes did break a couple of notable records set by Alex Ferguson, eight straight wins to start a season and 10 straight wins at Pittodrie.
You don't need to be a McInnes 'fan' to acknowledge he's got a good record in Scotland as a manager.
I think that’s a fair enough observation.
Im not a fan. Effective but ask the Dons fans.
IMO he wouldn’t last long at Hibs based on his outlook. As a support we grew tired of steady as she goes Jack Ross. Dull football at times. Fell short in the big games.
So Del to Hearts. time will tell if it comes to pass.
He probably will be accepted as long as he’s effective and winning esp against us.
But as with most fans style does come into it. But theyll enjoy the anti-football clogging and breaking up of play he’s known for. But they will turn like they have on others and it will be a blood bath like it usually is when the round on a manager - even one of their own.
Hibspur
12-05-2025, 09:20 AM
Eight years at Aberdeen One League Cup three League runners up without The Rangers Hibs and Hearts and loads of dire anti football in between he must have hated the sight of Brenda Rodgers’ Celtic
The Aberdeen fans wanted him gone after his dull toothless team set another record of one goal in his last nine games
No doubt McInnes will set Hearts up to be dour well drilled and hard to break down and beat with his spoiling tactics
Fair play to the guy he has been full of praise for the job SDG and his team have done at Hibs
His Hearts career will be defined by how he performs in the Edinburgh derby because that is all they live for 😀
The Hearts fans are already rubbing their hands in anticipation
Hearts were in the top flight for three of those four seasons, Rangers for two. Hibs just the one - although we ran Aberdeen quite close for second.
The bad run at the end I thought was just something that eventually happens to most managers who've maybe been at a club a bit too long. I recall being very surprised when McInnes turned down the Rangers job and I think he was close to the Sunderland job a couple of years before he left Aberdeen. That might have been the right time to go.
Hibspur
12-05-2025, 09:23 AM
I think that’s a fair enough observation.
Im not a fan. Effective but ask the Dons fans.
IMO he wouldn’t last long at Hibs based on his outlook. As a support we grew tired of steady as she goes Jack Ross. Dull football at times. Fell short in the big games.
So Del to Hearts. time will tell if it comes to pass.
He probably will be accepted as long as he’s effective and winning esp against us.
But as with most fans style does come into it. But theyll enjoy the anti-football clogging and breaking up of play he’s known for. But they will turn like they have on others and it will be a blood bath like it usually is when the round on a manager - even one of their own.
I don't think he was with us long enough for us to grow tired of him. In fact I still think it was crazy to punt him after his first poor run of form (amidst which we blew Rangers away at Hampden). Ron Gordon had the good grace to acknowledge he made a mistake there.
Donegal Hibby
12-05-2025, 09:27 AM
Most teams have a better record at home.
The plastic pitch advantage is massively overplayed imo. All footballers nowadays will have played masses of football on plastic pitches in their formative years. They’ll regularly train on plastic pitches and will often play on one numerous times throughout a season against numerous different sides. The way people talk about it you’d think they were making teams play on the moon.
I remember Doidge getting asked about the Killie pitch after his loan there and he did say that they thought it was an advantage to them .
BILLYHIBS
12-05-2025, 09:28 AM
Hearts were in the top flight for three of those four seasons, Rangers for two. Hibs just the one - although we ran Aberdeen quite close for second.
The bad run at the end I thought was just something that eventually happens to most managers who've maybe been at a club a bit too long. I recall being very surprised when McInnes turned down the Rangers job and I think he was close to the Sunderland job a couple of years before he left Aberdeen. That might have been the right time to go.
I take your point his record is decent but my opinion has been coloured by watching his negative approach to the beautiful game the first time I had ever been exposed to the dark arts. Win at all costs at any cost, defending from the front, trying to influence the referee by crowding or getting Shinnie to referee the game, taking it in turns to foul our best player, blatant time wasting, looking to get players booked, slowing the game down and play acting that frustratingly the officials did not pull them up for. All part of the game now I suppose? If it works for you and you manage to finish the game with eleven men and all three points then fair play I just didn’t like watching his teams or like him as a Manager
All of the above all too prevalent in the EPL today
Gloucester Hibs
12-05-2025, 09:40 AM
On the face of it a safe pair of hands, I’m thinking he might be yesterday’s man though.
Jock O
12-05-2025, 09:44 AM
He is definitely taking it, the timing of the announcement of speaking to Hearts after their survival was confirmed was too coincidental.
Was always against him coming here for much the same reason I think he might struggle, relatively, across there, I think this is his biggest job, and his last throw of the dice. He seems to be risk averse at most times in football, I think he will be twice as much so there, as pressure is on from day 1 to improve, and beat us. Probably the latter will be more important for his immediate survival, ironically. Therefore I just can't see him changing things much down that way other than turning some of this seasons defeats into draws or 1-0 wins, a series of 1-0 wins will probably stay the moaning minnies in the support, but not for ever. Scraping 4th next year would be probably be his target, not sure that will keep their fans happy.
Like everything it will also depend on recruitment, who is doing it, and are they noticeable improvements. I think listening to whispers now it looks like Shankland is going to stay, I assume accepting he is not going to get any better, so will be interesting to see how much of the budget he eats.
The good thing is they won't want to get rid him of in first season, so even it if is turning into a turgid bore fest, I think they will have to stick with him for a period of time, financially and reputationally, which might make it fun if he ends up in another bottom 6 battle.
He is definitely not the worst appointment, for them or us I actually think, I think most agree he will steady ship but presents nothing to fear. Just not sure its the new progressive future fans expect, so may turn sour quite early in the terraces. Fingers crossed.
WestStandWillie
12-05-2025, 09:53 AM
When we've been looking for a new manager over the years, Derek McInness always got mentioned and I've never once wanted him.
A very dour manager with tedious style of football. He'll get stability back at Hearts but their fans will get bored quickly. If we can keep the Derby performances coming then they'll turn on him.
He surely isn't a Tony Bloom appointment? That might cause some friction if he starts rejecting Jamestown nominated players :greengrin
we are hibs
12-05-2025, 10:03 AM
See they're considering keeping Gordon. Hope they do. It will be hilarious to see him try and cope with the 8 seconds rule next season. Terrible kicker of the ball and takes an absolute age to to anything. Reminds me of Joe Lewis who used to get on my tits how long he took to do anything with Aberdeen
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Thatdayinmay16
12-05-2025, 10:06 AM
See they're considering keeping Gordon. Hope they do. It will be hilarious to see him try and cope with the 8 seconds rule next season. Terrible kicker of the ball and takes an absolute age to to anything. Reminds me of Joe Lewis who used to get on my tits how long he took to do anything with Aberdeen
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That Zander Clarke new contract now seems hilarious. I hope they keep Gordon, guys stiffer than a board.
Bostonhibby
12-05-2025, 10:12 AM
Eight years at Aberdeen One League Cup three League runners up without The Rangers Hibs and Hearts and loads of dire anti football in between he must have hated the sight of Brenda Rodgers’ Celtic
The Aberdeen fans wanted him gone after his dull toothless team set another record of one goal in his last nine games
No doubt McInnes will set Hearts up to be dour well drilled and hard to break down and beat with his spoiling tactics
Fair play to the guy he has been full of praise for the job SDG and his team have done at Hibs
His Hearts career will be defined by how he performs in the Edinburgh derby because that is all they live for [emoji3]
The Hearts fans are already rubbing their hands in anticipationTo be fair, if they appointed the big red Coo, the Gorgie plastic owl or a traffic light as the next manager BBC Heartsound and the flumps would be heralding it as the coming of the messiah quickly followed by the usual statements about splitting the OF blah, blah, blah.....
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Paulie Walnuts
12-05-2025, 10:15 AM
I remember Doidge getting asked about the Killie pitch after his loan there and he did say that they thought it was an advantage to them .
And playing at Easter Road is an advantage to Hibs. Playing at Tynecastle is an advantage to Hearts, playing on a slick well maintained pitch at Celtic Park compared to a tattie field at Fir Park is an advantage to Celtic etc.
GreenNWhiteArmy
12-05-2025, 10:42 AM
https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1921509395826884805?s=19
Very distasteful but expecting nothing less from huns and hearts tbh.
McInnes should have shut that down instantly and said I'm not talking about speculation or belittling my current employer
Boyd was given a testimonial and in the hall of fame at killie...
Steve-O
12-05-2025, 10:42 AM
I don't think he was with us long enough for us to grow tired of him. In fact I still think it was crazy to punt him after his first poor run of form (amidst which we blew Rangers away at Hampden). Ron Gordon had the good grace to acknowledge he made a mistake there.
What’s Jack Ross doing now?
Ron Gordon was right.
Donegal Hibby
12-05-2025, 10:43 AM
And playing at Easter Road is an advantage to Hibs. Playing at Tynecastle is an advantage to Hearts, playing on a slick well maintained pitch at Celtic Park compared to a tattie field at Fir Park is an advantage to Celtic etc.
There’s always an advantage playing on your own ground alright but I do think that pitch is the worst surface in the top flight and has been a big advantage to Killie under McInnes as it’s near unplayable and suits the way they play . There away record would suggest this too which is horrendous.
JohnM1875
12-05-2025, 10:44 AM
https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1921509395826884805?s=19
Very distasteful but expecting nothing less from huns and hearts tbh.
McInnes should have shut that down instantly and said I'm not talking about speculation or belittling my current employer
Boyd was given a testimonial and in the hall of fame at killie...
Total prick move from Boyd. Classless gimp.
Hibspur
12-05-2025, 10:53 AM
'The biggest statement at the club since the appointment of Graham Rix'...some 'Hearts fans' on the wind-up up one suspects. Keegan and Bruce also touted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c861q4y0d92o
Thatdayinmay16
12-05-2025, 10:55 AM
'The biggest statement at the club since the appointment of Graham Rix'...some 'Hearts fans' on the wind-up up one suspects. Keegan and Bruce also touted.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/c861q4y0d92o
It's worrying how many of them seem to glance over Rix's past.
There aren't enough insults in the world for that lot.
Disgusting.
matty_f
12-05-2025, 11:07 AM
What’s Jack Ross doing now?
Ron Gordon was right.
I think he’s head of coaching development at Newcastle United now. Pretty good gig.
Paulie Walnuts
12-05-2025, 11:09 AM
There’s always an advantage playing on your own ground alright but I do think that pitch is the worst surface in the top flight and has been a big advantage to Killie under McInnes as it’s near unplayable and suits the way they play . There away record would suggest this too which is horrendous.
It’s not unplayable if Kilmarnock can play well on it though, is it?
Other teams fail to prepare properly to play on a type of surface that the players will have played on hundreds if not thousands of times. That’s really not Kilmarnock or McInnes’ problem.
Just to point out as well, McInnes’ Aberdeen side also had a very, very good home record, it was actually the best outside the Old Firm in 5 of his 7 seasons in the Scottish Premiership (and actually better than Rangers at times as well). Maybe he’s just well suited to playing at home?
CapitalGreen
12-05-2025, 11:09 AM
And playing at Easter Road is an advantage to Hibs. Playing at Tynecastle is an advantage to Hearts, playing on a slick well maintained pitch at Celtic Park compared to a tattie field at Fir Park is an advantage to Celtic etc.
None of these advantages translate into as big a disparity between home and away results as Kilmarnock’s.
22/23 - 24 points
23/24 - 14 points
24/25 - 20 points and counting
Not In The Know
12-05-2025, 11:20 AM
https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1921509395826884805?s=19
Very distasteful but expecting nothing less from huns and hearts tbh.
McInnes should have shut that down instantly and said I'm not talking about speculation or belittling my current employer
Boyd was given a testimonial and in the hall of fame at killie...
That is weird!
Jock O
12-05-2025, 11:22 AM
That is weird!
Very. But obviously they both know he has the Hearts job.
Just bizarre disrespectful behaviour from both.
Bostonhibby
12-05-2025, 11:24 AM
That is weird!Playing to the flump audience, they do love the word big. Biggest team in bottom 6.
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Wilson
12-05-2025, 11:25 AM
What’s Jack Ross doing now?
Ron Gordon was right.
False logic.
FastEddieFelson
12-05-2025, 11:26 AM
https://x.com/ScotlandSky/status/1921509395826884805?s=19
Very distasteful but expecting nothing less from huns and hearts tbh.
McInnes should have shut that down instantly and said I'm not talking about speculation or belittling my current employer
Boyd was given a testimonial and in the hall of fame at killie...
What a bizarre situation. Boyd is a rambling moron.
So the data now says Derek McInnes is the best candidate for the job….really. He wasn’t even mentioned by McKinlay and co during the last search so I wonder what has changed?? Maybe someone has changed the floppy disc?
jeffers
12-05-2025, 11:30 AM
What a bizarre situation. Boyd is a rambling moron.
What’s with this pish narrative he keeps promoting that Hearts are the 3rd biggest club in the country ? Based on what ? Their huge stadium ? Their training centre ? Recent trophy wins ?
So the data now says Derek McInnes is the best candidate for the job….really. He wasn’t even mentioned by McKinlay and co during the last search so I wonder what has changed?? Maybe someone has changed the floppy disc?An Oozzb stick surely.
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Sergio sledge
12-05-2025, 11:39 AM
Most teams have a better record at home.
The plastic pitch advantage is massively overplayed imo. All footballers nowadays will have played masses of football on plastic pitches in their formative years. They’ll regularly train on plastic pitches and will often play on one numerous times throughout a season against numerous different sides. The way people talk about it you’d think they were making teams play on the moon.
I don't think it is overplayed, Killie's away record is worse than St Johnstone, they are bottom of the league based on away form, and they are 5th in the league based on home form.
They have by far the largest differential between Points Per Game (PPG) home vs away at 1.11 ppg more home vs away, 27% higher than the next closest team (Aberdeen at 0.87 ppg difference) and more than double the league average (0.48 ppg).
The only team to have a worse record at home is Dundee United, so whilst it's true that playing at home is an advantage, it's clearly a larger advantage for Killie than other teams.
edit: becoming Hearts manager will suit him if his teams tend to have a huge advantage playing at home as their pitch is so small compared to everyone else in the league it offers them a clear advantage. Players have years of muscle memory and awareness trained into them playing on pitches the normal size it must be extremely difficult to adapt to a pitch that is 10% smaller for 2 games a season.
Kevin Keegan [emoji1787]
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theonlywayisup
12-05-2025, 11:41 AM
Imagine if Hibs went for a Scottish manager who was currently managing a team two places below us in the league. A manager who is well know for building dull boring to watch teams.
lyonhibs
12-05-2025, 11:46 AM
Truly a match made in beige, Rover driving heaven.....
WhileTheChief..
12-05-2025, 11:47 AM
Aye, right.
Eight straight European qualifications, including four straight second place finishes. The club's first cup win in 20 years, three other cup finals (all of which were lost to Celtic) and five cup semi-finals on top of that.
That level of consistency in the league is what you want to see as a season ticket holder, not just an occasional cup win.
He did a great job there. Those pretending otherwise are just looking for ways to make out Hearts have picked another dud. He'll make them competitive again unfortunately.
Agree with this. He’s been one of the best managers in Scotland consistently over a number of years.
Seems like a sensible choice for Hearts.
green day
12-05-2025, 12:06 PM
What’s with this pish narrative he keeps promoting that Hearts are the 3rd biggest club in the country ? Based on what ? Their huge stadium ? Their training centre ? Recent trophy wins ?
They certainly went into admin with the biggest debt I have ever seen
Donegal Hibby
12-05-2025, 12:06 PM
After previous managers like Naismith and Critchley , McInnes will be an upgrade , will he improve them ? I think he will which shouldn’t be hard to do considering how they’ve done this season , they’ll become a big physical team that’s more organised . I do think at some point it will go wrong and like at Aberdeen and Killie the first thing that’s going to happen is the jumbos start grumbling about the awful football they are playing.
Springbank
12-05-2025, 12:11 PM
I see transfermarkt say Easter Road has had 257,360 spectators this season (with just Rangers visit to come)
And Tynecastle has had a disappointing 242,201 spectators (withjust St Johnstone's visit to come)
Levels...
Broken Gnome
12-05-2025, 12:13 PM
I see transfermarkt say Easter Road has had 257,360 spectators this season (with just Rangers visit to come)
And Tynecastle has had a disappointing 242,201 spectators (withjust St Johnstone's visit to come)
Levels...
You're forgetting the value of the maroon pound.
The Harp Awakes
12-05-2025, 12:14 PM
McInnes is a good Manager and knows the Scottish game inside out. He could do well there.
I read an article this morning which said that although he may be interested, he is not guaranteed to take the job if offered it. It will depend on whether he feels he can work with the individuals calling the shots at Hearts. There's also the possibility of him being considered for the West Brom job which may attract him more.
Iain G
12-05-2025, 12:22 PM
McInnes is a good Manager and knows the Scottish game inside out. He could do well there.
I read an article this morning which said that although he may be interested, he is not guaranteed to take the job if offered it. It will depend on whether he feels he can work with the individuals calling the shots at Hearts. There's also the possibility of him being considered for the West Brom job which may attract him more.
Middle of the road, current bottom 6 manager. Will stabilise them a bit, make them harder to play against and reinstate robust agricultural football. But hardly a world beating appointment for the biggliest Gorgie 400,000
tamig
12-05-2025, 12:38 PM
That Zander Clarke new contract now seems hilarious. I hope they keep Gordon, guys stiffer than a board.
I know we’ve had our spending issues but the amount of money they have pished down a drain has been quite astonishing.
Thatdayinmay16
12-05-2025, 12:54 PM
I know we’ve had our spending issues but the amount of money they have pished down a drain has been quite astonishing.
Long may it continue!
The Nintendo 64 will help them no doubt.:greengrin
HoboHarry
12-05-2025, 01:03 PM
Hearts fan on the BBC, must have been blootered at the time of interview.....
"David S: Hearts can't afford another project manager. McInnes, if appointed, will be the sensible appointment and bring much-needed stability to the club. With Jamestown Analytics and McInnes' experience, next term will see us restore natural order."
Since452
12-05-2025, 01:06 PM
Hearts fan on the BBC, must have been blootered at the time of interview.....
"David S: Hearts can't afford another project manager. McInnes, if appointed, will be the sensible appointment and bring much-needed stability to the club. With Jamestown Analytics and McInnes' experience, next term will see us restore natural order."
Natural Orange Order?
Imagine if Hibs went for a Scottish manager who was currently managing a team two places below us in the league. A manager who is well know for building dull boring to watch teams.
Seems not that long ago there was a calmer on here to have him appointed as Hibs manger, described as a perfect fit if I remember,. :agree:
BILLYHIBS
12-05-2025, 01:20 PM
Natural order has already been restored
We own this City
Since90+2
12-05-2025, 01:23 PM
To be fair to Hear7s atleast they have appointed someone who actually knows who they are.
Remember when they appointed the brilliant Daniel Stendel to the role? He obviously didn't get the brief about having to make out Hear7s are such a massive club:
Reporter: Daniel, how excited are you to be taking charge and what did you think of the opportunity when Hear7s first approached you?
Stendel: I'd never heard of them before
🤣🤣
LancsHibs
12-05-2025, 01:24 PM
Steve Bruce latest name to be linked! Can’t see that!!
Jones28
12-05-2025, 01:27 PM
Hearts fan on the BBC, must have been blootered at the time of interview.....
"David S: Hearts can't afford another project manager. McInnes, if appointed, will be the sensible appointment and bring much-needed stability to the club. With Jamestown Analytics and McInnes' experience, next term will see us restore natural order."
:faf:
Someone put his dummy back in and wrap David up in his comfort blanket please.
Since452
12-05-2025, 01:30 PM
Steve Bruce latest name to be linked! Can’t see that!!
Imagine if Gayle stayed and scored in the derby 😂😂😂
BBC Sportsound team will be wetting themselves beyond anything seen before when “Derek” is appointed. A new level of Jambo sycophantic crap we will all have to put up with.
My prediction? Even if we secure 3rd this weekend we will be a footnote to the inevitable love in with the Tynecastle tools
Silky
12-05-2025, 03:08 PM
I think that’s a fair enough observation.
Im not a fan. Effective but ask the Dons fans.
IMO he wouldn’t last long at Hibs based on his outlook. As a support we grew tired of steady as she goes Jack Ross. Dull football at times. Fell short in the big games.
So Del to Hearts. time will tell if it comes to pass.
He probably will be accepted as long as he’s effective and winning esp against us.
But as with most fans style does come into it. But theyll enjoy the anti-football clogging and breaking up of play he’s known for. But they will turn like they have on others and it will be a blood bath like it usually is when the round on a manager - even one of their own.
If that style wins them derbies then I'm sure they won't care a jot! For most of them, beating us is the be-all and end-all.
badabing67
12-05-2025, 03:36 PM
They certainly went into admin with the biggest debt I have ever seen
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Dashing Bob S
12-05-2025, 03:39 PM
After previous managers like Naismith and Critchley , McInnes will be an upgrade , will he improve them ? I think he will which shouldn’t be hard to do considering how they’ve done this season , they’ll become a big physical team that’s more organised . I do think at some point it will go wrong and like at Aberdeen and Killie the first thing that’s going to happen is the jumbos start grumbling about the awful football they are playing.
That never concerns them. If they show up in derbies and make top six minimum, he'll be fine.
greenlex
12-05-2025, 03:41 PM
They must still be talking.
CapitalGreen
12-05-2025, 04:00 PM
Kilmarnock have had their plastic pitch for years, it never gave them all that much of an advantage previously. They then appointed a manager who had an outstanding home record in his previous role and lo and behold, there home record improved.
If the pitch was the massive advantage, that would be the case regardless if manager. If the great record ties in with a manager being there, who happens to usually have an excellent home record, then it’s far more likely he’s the factor rather than the pitch.
What’s your opinion on their horrendous away record? If they have a horrendous away record compared to their home record then is it far more likely he’s the factor for that too rather than the pitch? No other team in the league has as big a drop off when they play away from home as DM’s McInnes.
Paulie Walnuts
12-05-2025, 04:08 PM
What’s your opinion on their horrendous away record? If they have a horrendous away record compared to their home record then is it far more likely he’s the factor for that too rather than the pitch? No other team in the league has as big a drop off when they play away from home as DM’s McInnes.
Yup, it’s also likely because of him.
Why have so many teams with plastic pitches been relegated in recent years if they give them such an enormous advantage? Livi went down with a dreadful home record last season, Hamilton went down with a terrible home record, Falkirk sank all the way down to League One with their plastic pitch.
Why did their plastic pitches not provide them with enormous advantages?
The plastic pitch advantage is absolutely overplayed. Recently teams will have been playing over 10% of their games on a plastic pitch every season and it’s not exactly like it’s a surface you can’t go on train on, is it? Are Hearts massively disadvantaged in away games because they have a toatty wee pitch at Tynecastle? Would it be fair to say Kilmarnock are disadvantaged when playing on grass since they train and play on plastic?
Donegal Hibby
12-05-2025, 04:49 PM
That never concerns them. If they show up in derbies and make top six minimum, he'll be fine.
If everything is going well I doubt there will be any grumbling about the style of football but as we all know every team hits a bad patch sooner or later and in McInnes case that will be the stick they use against him . Some are already bringing it up now and he’s not even officially announced yet , calling it an uninspiring appointment . I think he’s a manager that spilts opinions more than some others do .
Hibspur
12-05-2025, 05:12 PM
They must still be talking.
Be amusing if he turned them down. I remember when Mark McGhee's stock was high at Motherwell Hearts thought they'd landed him only him for to stay at Fir Park.
JohnM1875
12-05-2025, 06:06 PM
Apparently its the second time the supercomputer has made McInnes favourite 🙄.
They just didn't want to pay compensation last time. Right, surreeeee.
04Sauzee
12-05-2025, 06:35 PM
The Analytics 🧐
we are hibs
12-05-2025, 06:35 PM
Apparently its the second time the supercomputer has made McInnes favourite [emoji849].
They just didn't want to pay compensation last time. Right, surreeeee.Just like when the answer was along the corridor all along with Levein
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Carheenlea
12-05-2025, 06:41 PM
Be amusing if he turned them down. I remember when Mark McGhee's stock was high at Motherwell Hearts thought they'd landed him only him for to stay at Fir Park.
But how lucky it will be should Robbie Neilson just happen be browsing some maroon leisurewear in the club shop at same time as their McInnes plans fall through.
CentreForward
12-05-2025, 06:44 PM
I see transfermarkt say Easter Road has had 257,360 spectators this season (with just Rangers visit to come)
And Tynecastle has had a disappointing 242,201 spectators (withjust St Johnstone's visit to come)
Levels...
Don’t we just know how much bigglier they aren’t!
Bostonhibby
12-05-2025, 06:53 PM
I see transfermarkt say Easter Road has had 257,360 spectators this season (with just Rangers visit to come)
And Tynecastle has had a disappointing 242,201 spectators (withjust St Johnstone's visit to come)
Levels...All big teams have less fans in their smaller stadium than their local rivals.
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Billy Whizz
12-05-2025, 08:07 PM
Imagine asking permission to speak to another teams manager, when they have a game 2 days later
Classless as always
Imagine asking permission to speak to another teams manager, when they have a game 2 days later
Classless as alwaysThey are a very, very, very important club - so it is very, very, very important that everyone allows them to get their way.
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Nicho87
12-05-2025, 09:30 PM
Just watched Michael Stewart waffle on about how this could revolutionise the Scottish game and break the old firm monopoly
Is he ok?
Like seriously?
Hearts will need an extra 0 on top of the current investment if they are even thinking about breaking the old firm.
Quite farcical.
Same old jambos the media darlings
Didn’t even come top 6 but potential title winners the next
Quite mental
green day
12-05-2025, 09:45 PM
Just watched Michael Stewart waffle on about how this could revolutionise the Scottish game and break the old firm monopoly
Is he ok?
Like seriously?
Hearts will need an extra 0 on top of the current investment if they are even thinking about breaking the old firm.
Quite farcical.
Same old jambos the media darlings
Didn’t even come top 6 but potential title winners the next
Quite mental
Stewart is a fud.........a total attention seeker
Eyrie
12-05-2025, 09:50 PM
Imagine asking permission to speak to another teams manager, when they have a game 2 days later
Classless as always
Even worse, the end of the season is less than a week away and Hearts have nothing to play for now that they're safe from relegation.
B.H.F.C
12-05-2025, 09:50 PM
**** Hearts. **** Derek McInnes. **** Michael Stewart. **** Tony Bloom and his computer.
Hibs are going to Europe.
Jim44
12-05-2025, 09:53 PM
Imagine asking permission to speak to another teams manager, when they have a game 2 days later
Classless as always
It goes both ways. If DM had any class, he would ask for any negotiations to be put on ice till the end of the season.
It goes both ways. If DM had any class, he would ask for any negotiations to be put on ice till the end of the season.Sos he'll be there by the end of the week.
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Hibs4185
12-05-2025, 10:11 PM
It’s hilarious how they find the need to emphasise that JTA has in fact picked McInnes not once but twice.
All hail JTA
HoboHarry
12-05-2025, 10:19 PM
**** Hearts. **** Derek McInnes. **** Michael Stewart. **** Tony Bloom and his computer.
Hibs are going to Europe.
Not even with a stolen knob would I do such a thing with any of those welps.
tamig
12-05-2025, 10:24 PM
Stewart is a fud.........a total attention seeker
Too much sun on the ginger napper. Guy’s totally lost it lately.
Donegal Hibby
12-05-2025, 11:04 PM
It’s hilarious how they find the need to emphasise that JTA has in fact picked McInnes not once but twice.
All hail JTA
And yet 😂…
https://www.bbc.com/sport/football/articles/c148y75zx7zo
The output depends on the input.
Look for a manager with SPFL experience, has a good record in the top flight, is charismatic, a good communicator and manages Kilmarnock.
Might not tick every box, but some....has a beard, played for Rangers and WBA, has the initials DM, first name rhymes with merrick....
Yeah, that would work.
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hibees 7062
12-05-2025, 11:56 PM
Stewart is a fud.........a total attention seeker
He said Killie are struggling because they don’t have a big squad. They have more players than Utd and St Mirren
truehibernian
13-05-2025, 04:57 AM
Just watched Michael Stewart waffle on about how this could revolutionise the Scottish game and break the old firm monopoly
Is he ok?
Like seriously?
Hearts will need an extra 0 on top of the current investment if they are even thinking about breaking the old firm.
Quite farcical.
Same old jambos the media darlings
Didn’t even come top 6 but potential title winners the next
Quite mental
As long as JTA churn out answers to “Find me an identity” Michael will be fine 😂
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 06:03 AM
Even worse, the end of the season is less than a week away and Hearts have nothing to play for now that they're safe from relegation.
And play Killie last game of the season
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 06:06 AM
It goes both ways. If DM had any class, he would ask for any negotiations to be put on ice till the end of the season.
Was ridiculous he didn’t say anything like I am in a job at present when his mate Boyd was massively talking him up on sky last Sunday
Since452
13-05-2025, 06:42 AM
Is the Jamestown Commodore 64 only set to a 60 mile radius?
USA_Hibee
13-05-2025, 06:49 AM
He'll get them up to their usual positions of anywhere between 3rd and 12th.
Gmack7
13-05-2025, 06:50 AM
Is the Jamestown Commodore 64 only set to a 60 mile radius?
It's only set to Ayrshire, they didn't fancy Scott Brown
Viva_Palmeiras
13-05-2025, 06:57 AM
Just watched Michael Stewart waffle on about how this could revolutionise the Scottish game and break the old firm monopoly
Is he ok?
Like seriously?
Hearts will need an extra 0 on top of the current investment if they are even thinking about breaking the old firm.
Quite farcical.
Same old jambos the media darlings
Didn’t even come top 6 but potential title winners the next
Quite mental
How much leeway will Del get from Stewart and the cheerleaders?
Critchley was given pretty much 3/4 of his tenure.
Jones28
13-05-2025, 06:58 AM
Bee boop beep
“STAUNCH”
Beep beep
“HOOFBALL”
Boop beep boop
Viva_Palmeiras
13-05-2025, 06:58 AM
Is the Jamestown Commodore 64 only set to a 60 mile radius?
GorgieAnalytica just interprets the data differently.
They are indeed especially unique.
kentao
13-05-2025, 07:04 AM
And play Killie last game of the season
imagine if the caretaker manager was to beat the next pep Guardiola. Would he still be the manager to break the old firm :na na::na na::na na:
GreenCastle
13-05-2025, 07:24 AM
Former hun Naismith next Killie manager when the other hun joins the wee Huns.
S4uzee
13-05-2025, 07:40 AM
This appointment has had some media attention
Bostonhibby
13-05-2025, 07:58 AM
This appointment has had some media attentionHuge global football team using unique technology to scour the football world then employ the manager of fellow strugglers from round the corner.
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Huge global football team using unique technology to scour the football world then employ the manager of fellow strugglers from round the corner.
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I wonder how many filters they added to the data input into the JTA super duper mega computer to allow them to come up with McInnes?
Bostonhibby
13-05-2025, 08:04 AM
I wonder how many filters they added to the data input into the JTA super duper mega computer to allow them to come up with McInnes?Guy with a beard from the Ayrshire area?
Can be the guy or the beard that comes from the area.
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Guy with a beard from the Ayrshire area?
Can be the guy or the beard that comes from the area.
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Don’t forget the tan……
Since452
13-05-2025, 08:58 AM
If they're going for a manager in our league I'm just relieved it's not Robinson. Finishing 3rd with Motherwell and regular top 6 with St Mirren is very impressive.
McGruber
13-05-2025, 09:21 AM
If they're going for a manager in our league I'm just relieved it's not Robinson. Finishing 3rd with Motherwell and regular top 6 with St Mirren is very impressive.
The obvious choice for them over the last however many appointments had been McInnes but he was constantly over looked. Now they are going with McInnes when the obvious choice is Robinson.
Alfred E Newman
13-05-2025, 09:43 AM
I wonder how many filters they added to the data input into the JTA super duper mega computer to allow them to come up with McInnes?
Yes, you would think a computer would come up with Jürgen Klopp, Jose Mourinho or someone of that standard
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 09:48 AM
Don’t forget the tan……
Impossible to .... looks ridiculous
Didn't realise Danny Armstrong was out of contract assume he will be heading to Hearts at end of the season if "Del" takes over.
Since452
13-05-2025, 10:15 AM
Watch McInnes try and sign any player Hibs are linked with. Remember all that time he spent hiding in the bushes at HTC when managing the sheep.
jacomo
13-05-2025, 10:30 AM
I think McInnes is a good manager and, and others have said, probably well suited to Hearts. They like to grind out results.
I'm surprised the Rangers aren't interested though. I know he turned them down before and they like to hold a grudge, but for where the Rangers are now, he'd be a decent shout.
Hibs Go Bragh
13-05-2025, 10:47 AM
Isn't McInnes desperate for the Scotland job? If Clarke doesn't get off to a good start in the qualifiers Hearts might be looking for another manager sooner than they think!
What I think is fascinating is they would never have touched McInnes when appointing last few managers. In fact they could have gone after him to replace Naismith after he had a decent season last season.
Now he has had a crap season and 9th and Killie fans not happy with him (recent poll suggests 80% not fussed about him leaving) they go for him and he is hailed as the new Klopp.
Bonkers.
Thatdayinmay16
13-05-2025, 10:58 AM
Isn't McInnes desperate for the Scotland job? If Clarke doesn't get off to a good start in the qualifiers Hearts might be looking for another manager sooner than they think!
Going from Steve Clarke to Derek McIness would be the equivalent of going from Hitler to Mussolini.
Viva_Palmeiras
13-05-2025, 11:24 AM
Ah now the Computer has said MacInnes twice is the answer
… but has anybody bothered to check the question they typed?
easty
13-05-2025, 12:01 PM
Going from Steve Clarke to Derek McIness would be the equivalent of going from Hitler to Mussolini.
I don't get it :confused:
Thatdayinmay16
13-05-2025, 12:08 PM
I don't get it :confused:
Meaning it would be absolutely catastrophic.
He's here!
13-05-2025, 12:08 PM
Former hun Naismith next Killie manager when the other hun joins the wee Huns.
Not a bad shout. He was shabbily treated by Hearts and may feel he has something to prove.
I've warmed to him as a pundit tho and he may not feel inclined to get back on the merry-go-round of management.
Good guy by all accounts so I would be funny to see him beat Hearts with Killie.
CropleyWasGod
13-05-2025, 12:09 PM
I don't get it :confused:
The trains would run on time.
He's here!
13-05-2025, 12:12 PM
Meaning it would be absolutely catastrophic.
Clarke's not done a bad job tho so would it not be like going from Churchill to Hitler by that sort of analogy?
Not that I agree anyway. I'd imagine McInnes would also do fine with Scotland where realistic expectations don't really extend beyond qualifying for tournaments.
Thatdayinmay16
13-05-2025, 12:20 PM
Clarke's not done a bad job tho so would it not be like going from Churchill to Hitler by that sort of analogy?
Not that I agree anyway. I'd imagine McInnes would also do fine with Scotland where realistic expectations don't really extend beyond qualifying for tournaments.
3 wins in 19 while arguably playing some of the most eye bleeding football we've seen in years isn't good.
McIness wouldn't have been the greatest replacement, with the side we have at our disposable, should be aiming a lot higher.
Not In The Know
13-05-2025, 12:30 PM
What I think is fascinating is they would never have touched McInnes when appointing last few managers. In fact they could have gone after him to replace Naismith after he had a decent season last season.
Now he has had a crap season and 9th and Killie fans not happy with him (recent poll suggests 80% not fussed about him leaving) they go for him and he is hailed as the new Klopp.
Bonkers.
Its total BS he was first on the list last time
BILLYHIBS
13-05-2025, 12:31 PM
Has McWinless signed yet or is he doing his usual rope a dope playing Hearts against Killie against WBA ?
Edit:
Looking like a done deal with Hearts prepared to meet his release clause at Killie with Liam Fox remaining in charge at Tiny until the weekend
Shrekko
13-05-2025, 12:41 PM
Has McWinless signed yet or is he doing his usual rope a dope playing Hearts against Killie against WBA ?
Edit:
Looking like a done deal with Hearts prepared to meet his release clause at Killie with Liam Fox remaining in charge at Tiny until the weekend
Why you referring to him as 'McWinless'?
Hibspur
13-05-2025, 01:11 PM
Just reading this on BBC's 'Team of the week' section:
Frankie Kent: Utterly assured at the back as Hearts continue their end-of-season renaissance.
Lawrence Shankland: Four goals in his past two league games. Incredible what a change of shape, position and, perhaps, manager can make.
End of season renaissance? WTF?
And Shankland finally gives himself a shake in a couple of dead rubbers? Presumably to either impress the new boss (McInnes released him as a teenager at Pittodrie IIRC) or spark some sort of interest from other clubs.
The way the BBC's stuff is worded you'd think they were putting in a late bid for the title!
snedzuk
13-05-2025, 01:17 PM
Bbc now saying McInnes will take charge of Killie for their last two games. One of which is against Hearts. Surely someone Ayrshire way will put an end to that.
Hibspur
13-05-2025, 01:22 PM
Bbc now saying McInnes will take charge of Killie for their last two games. One of which is against Hearts. Surely someone Ayrshire way will put an end to that.
Bizarre.
When's his contract at Killie up? Maybe Hearts don't want to pay any more compensation than they have to, considering they're most likely still paying off Naismith and Critchley.
BILLYHIBS
13-05-2025, 01:23 PM
Why you referring to him as 'McWinless'?
Dunno always called him that ever since his efforts to win the League at Aberdeen three runners up attempts though he did eventually win a League Cup on penalties after a 0-0 and a First Division at St Johnstone and a Championship at Killie since Aberdeen
Just my weird sense of humour
Since452
13-05-2025, 01:31 PM
Just reading this on BBC's 'Team of the week' section:
Frankie Kent: Utterly assured at the back as Hearts continue their end-of-season renaissance.
Lawrence Shankland: Four goals in his past two league games. Incredible what a change of shape, position and, perhaps, manager can make.
End of season renaissance? WTF?
And Shankland finally gives himself a shake in a couple of dead rubbers? Presumably to either impress the new boss (McInnes released him as a teenager at Pittodrie IIRC) or spark some sort of interest from other clubs.
The way the BBC's stuff is worded you'd think they were putting in a late bid for the title!
Bottom 6 diddy team of the week? Shouldn't count.
JohnM1875
13-05-2025, 01:38 PM
Just reading this on BBC's 'Team of the week' section:
Frankie Kent: Utterly assured at the back as Hearts continue their end-of-season renaissance.
Lawrence Shankland: Four goals in his past two league games. Incredible what a change of shape, position and, perhaps, manager can make.
End of season renaissance? WTF?
And Shankland finally gives himself a shake in a couple of dead rubbers? Presumably to either impress the new boss (McInnes released him as a teenager at Pittodrie IIRC) or spark some sort of interest from other clubs.
The way the BBC's stuff is worded you'd think they were putting in a late bid for the title!
Hearts have also just posted this:
“The club can confirm that Jorge Grant and Barrie McKay will leave the club at the end of the season upon expiration of their contracts.
We thank both for all their efforts in maroon ❤️
Details on a guard of honour and lap of appreciation tomorrow night are below.”
Guard of honour?! 😂
Hibby Kay-Yay
13-05-2025, 01:48 PM
Hearts have also just posted this:
“The club can confirm that Jorge Grant and Barrie McKay will leave the club at the end of the season upon expiration of their contracts.
We thank both for all their efforts in maroon ❤️
Details on a guard of honour and lap of appreciation tomorrow night are below.”
Guard of honour?! 😂
Guard of honour could be done on the staircase that goes nowhere.
Seems fitting.
Trinity Hibee
13-05-2025, 01:48 PM
Guard of honour could be done on the staircase that goes nowhere.
Seems fitting.
😂
The Baldmans Comb
13-05-2025, 01:59 PM
If you want to finish in 3rd/4th place in Scottish football on a reasonably regular basis then all you need to do is appoint someone with a strong character, who knows his way around Scottish football and get him to construct a team that take no chances (or prisoners) and are based on stopping the limited opposition teams play.
Chuck him the biggest budget in the league outwith the usual suspects then this will give you the 2/3 players of creativity to win games.
McInnes looks a perfect fit.
SaulGoodman
13-05-2025, 02:21 PM
Just reading this on BBC's 'Team of the week' section:
Frankie Kent: Utterly assured at the back as Hearts continue their end-of-season renaissance.
Lawrence Shankland: Four goals in his past two league games. Incredible what a change of shape, position and, perhaps, manager can make.
End of season renaissance? WTF?
And Shankland finally gives himself a shake in a couple of dead rubbers? Presumably to either impress the new boss (McInnes released him as a teenager at Pittodrie IIRC) or spark some sort of interest from other clubs.
The way the BBC's stuff is worded you'd think they were putting in a late bid for the title!
St Mirren fans would probably be quite pissed off that their team that won again away from Home to keep them in the race for a European place has been snubbed for a team winning a meaningless bottom 6 tie after bottling all the matches that mattered.
Its total BS he was first on the list last time
Of course it is. The hordes along Gorgie way will beLIEve anything spouted by McKinlay.
If Dm was on that list the first time round we would have heard about it long before now.
tamig
13-05-2025, 02:29 PM
If you want to finish in 3rd/4th place in Scottish football on a reasonably regular basis then all you need to do is appoint someone with a strong character, who knows his way around Scottish football and get him to construct a team that take no chances (or prisoners) and are based on stopping the limited opposition teams play.
Chuck him the biggest budget in the league outwith the usual suspects then this will give you the 2/3 players of creativity to win games.
McInnes looks a perfect fit.
I could predict the content of this post as soon as I saw the poster’s name. No surprises and entirely predictable 👏
Libby Hibby
13-05-2025, 02:41 PM
If you want to finish in 3rd/4th place in Scottish football on a reasonably regular basis then all you need to do is appoint someone with a strong character, who knows his way around Scottish football and get him to construct a team that take no chances (or prisoners) and are based on stopping the limited opposition teams play.
Chuck him the biggest budget in the league outwith the usual suspects then this will give you the 2/3 players of creativity to win games.
McInnes looks a perfect fit.
Does he, aye?
Hibernian Verse
13-05-2025, 02:47 PM
I could predict the content of this post as soon as I saw the poster’s name. No surprises and entirely predictable 👏
Amazed he's lasted this long
Pretty Boy
13-05-2025, 02:48 PM
I've always been enthusiastic about the prospect of McInnes managing Hibs, his record at St Johnstone and Aberdeen (yes, even with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the league) is good and he's done a decent job at Killie for the most part. Got them up, kept them up, European qualification but then a big drop off this season.
However I'm not all that bothered about this. He feels a bit like a guy who's best days might just be behind him. The game moves on and maybe there are signs he hasn't quite moved with it. I think he'll do ok there, I think he'll improve them and have them in the top 6 which in this league means in the hunt for 3rd and Europe but I'm not convinced he's going to leave ourselves and Aberdeen trailing in his wake.
I predict a Jack Ross type scenario. He'll do enough for a while that any moaning is easily drowned out initially but he'll never really endear himself to the support, he'll struggle to get credit in the bank and he'll be under real pressure when he has his first bad spell. If he's still their manager in a couple of years I'll be surprised.
Hibbyradge
13-05-2025, 02:54 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cyvm76rl5jgo
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 02:54 PM
Hearts have also just posted this:
“The club can confirm that Jorge Grant and Barrie McKay will leave the club at the end of the season upon expiration of their contracts.
We thank both for all their efforts in maroon ❤️
Details on a guard of honour and lap of appreciation tomorrow night are below.”
Guard of honour?! 😂
Guard of honour dear oh dear. :faf:
Billy Whizz
13-05-2025, 02:58 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cyvm76rl5jgo
“Billy is brilliant and we've got a strong relationship," McInnes said. "That's always been key for me, having that strong relationship with the owner.”
Mmm
FilipinoHibs
13-05-2025, 02:59 PM
Guard of honour dear oh dear. :faf:
They love a bit of grandeur. There will be clapping on the piazza after the game.
PatHead
13-05-2025, 03:00 PM
They having an open top bus parade as well?
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 03:07 PM
St Mirren fans would probably be quite pissed off that their team that won again away from Home to keep them in the race for a European place has been snubbed for a team winning a meaningless bottom 6 tie after bottling all the matches that mattered.
Yes ridiculous Hearts bias as per
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 03:07 PM
They love a bit of grandeur. There will be clapping on the piazza after the game.
By three people :greengrin
JimBHibees
13-05-2025, 03:09 PM
I've always been enthusiastic about the prospect of McInnes managing Hibs, his record at St Johnstone and Aberdeen (yes, even with Hearts, Hibs and Rangers in the league) is good and he's done a decent job at Killie for the most part. Got them up, kept them up, European qualification but then a big drop off this season.
However I'm not all that bothered about this. He feels a bit like a guy who's best days might just be behind him. The game moves on and maybe there are signs he hasn't quite moved with it. I think he'll do ok there, I think he'll improve them and have them in the top 6 which in this league means in the hunt for 3rd and Europe but I'm not convinced he's going to leave ourselves and Aberdeen trailing in his wake.
I predict a Jack Ross type scenario. He'll do enough for a while that any moaning is easily drowned out initially but he'll never really endear himself to the support, he'll struggle to get credit in the bank and he'll be under real pressure when he has his first bad spell. If he's still their manager in a couple of years I'll be surprised.
Yes kind of where i am with DM
Billy Whizz
13-05-2025, 03:13 PM
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25159924.derek-mcinnes-hearts-hold-ann-budge-holiday/
The big boss is out of the country?
Guard of honour dear oh dear. :faf:
Lookwe are all just jealous. Top of the Top 6 and the best of the rest. I’m actually surprised they’ve not got an open top bus parade organised.
Since452
13-05-2025, 03:25 PM
Guard of honour dear oh dear. :faf:
Can't be true
Hibs4185
13-05-2025, 03:28 PM
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25159924.derek-mcinnes-hearts-hold-ann-budge-holiday/
The big boss is out of the country?
Surely the 400,000 other owners suffice?
Michael
13-05-2025, 03:51 PM
Annoyingly, I think he'll improve them a lot.
hibsbollah
13-05-2025, 04:23 PM
Hearts have also just posted this:
“The club can confirm that Jorge Grant and Barrie McKay will leave the club at the end of the season upon expiration of their contracts.
We thank both for all their efforts in maroon ❤️
Details on a guard of honour and lap of appreciation tomorrow night are below.”
Guard of honour?! 😂
Grant got 3 goals and an assist this season. McKay? I had forgotten he existed, 6 goals in FOUR YEARS:faf: must be costing them in wages in that time.
It should be hibs forming a guard of honour for them.
GreenCastle
13-05-2025, 04:24 PM
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/articles/cyvm76rl5jgo
Budge is staying - great
Iain G
13-05-2025, 04:33 PM
Feels like a backward old skool typical lacking imagination Yam appointment.
Levein 2.0.
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25159924.derek-mcinnes-hearts-hold-ann-budge-holiday/
The big boss is out of the country?
How tinpot is that? The deal can't be done until Budge is back from holiday. 😂😂😂
As if we didn't already know who pulls all the strings, so much for Budge no longer being involved in the running of the club. McKinlay probably has to ask her permission to go to the toilet.
Wilson
13-05-2025, 04:41 PM
Annoyingly, I think he'll improve them a lot.
Aye. So so much. I'm pure shaking at the thought.
Viva_Palmeiras
13-05-2025, 04:42 PM
Guard of honour could be done on the staircase that goes nowhere.
Seems fitting.
Just as well I wasn’t drinking coffee…
Real Emerald
13-05-2025, 05:17 PM
https://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/25159924.derek-mcinnes-hearts-hold-ann-budge-holiday/
The big boss is out of the country?
I hear it’s quite nice in Cloud Cuckoo land at this time of year. Probably plotting the downfall of Celtic, taking over the BBC and being the biggest biggest club in the world. Is Tom English with her? Delusional halfwits.
How tinpot is that? The deal can't be done until Budge is back from holiday. 😂😂😂
As if we didn't already know who pulls all the strings, so much for Budge no longer being involved in the running of the club. McKinlay probably has to ask her permission to go to the toilet.
Hilarious 🤣 every other modern business uses multiple tools to engage effectively globally but wee Budge can’t/wont use Zoom or Teams🤣🤣🤣
ancient hibee
13-05-2025, 05:29 PM
St Mirren fans would probably be quite pissed off that their team that won again away from Home to keep them in the race for a European place has been snubbed for a team winning a meaningless bottom 6 tie after bottling all the matches that mattered.
St.Mirren have got two players in the team so don’t see how they’ve been snubbed.
Iain G
13-05-2025, 06:20 PM
Hilarious 🤣 every other modern business uses multiple tools to engage effectively globally but wee Budge can’t/wont use Zoom or Teams🤣🤣🤣
There are multiple tools active at Tinycastle 😁
Victor
13-05-2025, 06:59 PM
Annoyingly, I think he'll improve them a lot.
No he won’t
SHODAN
13-05-2025, 07:18 PM
At the time I thought Critchley was a bad appointment for them, and Naismith was average.
I think McInnes is a good appointment for them.
He's here!
13-05-2025, 07:19 PM
St.Mirren have got two players in the team so don’t see how they’ve been snubbed.
Post-split the team of the week should be selected solely from the elite sides in the top six.
erin go bragh
13-05-2025, 08:06 PM
At the time I thought Critchley was a bad appointment for them, and Naismith was average.
I think McInnes is a good appointment for them.
Well if the rumours about Bloom withdrawing their 9m funding if Mcinnes gets the job is true. Would suggest,think otherwise.
Paul1642
13-05-2025, 08:25 PM
Well if the rumours about Bloom withdrawing their 9m funding if Mcinnes gets the job is true. Would suggest,think otherwise.
Not heard this rumour and as much as I’d love to, is don’t believe this for a second.
SHODAN
13-05-2025, 09:00 PM
Well if the rumours about Bloom withdrawing their 9m funding if Mcinnes gets the job is true. Would suggest,think otherwise.
That would be very funny.
Broken Gnome
13-05-2025, 09:51 PM
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
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K-Zazu
13-05-2025, 10:03 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-midfielder-beni-baningime-reassurance-derek-mcinnes-hates-facing-kilmarnock-5126950
So according to this mciness only plays hoofball at Rugby Park because they play on a plastic pitch.
Pagan Hibernia
13-05-2025, 10:12 PM
https://www.edinburghnews.scotsman.com/sport/football/hearts/hearts-midfielder-beni-baningime-reassurance-derek-mcinnes-hates-facing-kilmarnock-5126950
So according to this mciness only plays hoofball at Rugby Park because they play on a plastic pitch.
🤣
Good luck to them on Tynie's wee tight pitch. Stylish, expansive football it won't be.
CentreForward
13-05-2025, 10:19 PM
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
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You seriously couldn’t make it up. Those were the 3 so obvious choices currently managing in the Scottish game and within their realistic acquisition budget. Did it really have to take an expensive analytics firm to tell them that.
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
Sent from my Pixel 6a using TapatalkDon't let the blowhards bother you in any way.
It's not that long ago they were bumping their gums about winning the Champions League. That warped into "saving their club" after it was money-laundered into the ground. Their fan ownership was a radical move that would see them to the top, Cathro was an analytic led, brave experiment that was going to see them hammer everybody. Craigyboy was the man to lead them to glory. Their tin and glass excuse for a main stand was going to be the "envy of Scottish football". Robbie Neilson was heading towards a League win as he was the best Scottish manager since Alex Ferguson. This season they were going to split the OF. Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie combined would struggle to blow their own trumpet as hard as that bunch.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
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JimBHibees
14-05-2025, 05:50 AM
You seriously couldn’t make it up. Those were the 3 so obvious choices currently managing in the Scottish game and within their realistic acquisition budget. Did it really have to take an expensive analytics firm to tell them that.
Yep not rocket science Scottish based managers recently done well within Hearts budget. A trained chimp or Gary Locke could have come up with that
Libby Hibby
14-05-2025, 05:52 AM
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
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David Gray surely ranked top with those filters on
JimBHibees
14-05-2025, 05:52 AM
Don't let the blowhards bother you in any way.
It's not that long ago they were bumping their gums about winning the Champions League. That warped into "saving their club" after it was money-laundered into the ground. Their fan ownership was a radical move that would see them to the top, Cathro was an analytic led, brave experiment that was going to see them hammer everybody. Craigyboy was the man to lead them to glory. Their tin and glass excuse for a main stand was going to be the "envy of Scottish football". Robbie Neilson was heading towards a League win as he was the best Scottish manager since Alex Ferguson. This season they were going to split the OF. Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie combined would struggle to blow their own trumpet as hard as that bunch.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
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Magnificent rant 😄
Since452
14-05-2025, 06:53 AM
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
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Why did they need the super computer to tell them McInnes, Robinson or McGlynn would be good choices? They are a funny football club. It must be like an episode of The Office behind the giant glass curtain wall.
matty_f
14-05-2025, 07:05 AM
Why did they need the super computer to tell them McInnes, Robinson or McGlynn would be good choices? They are a funny football club. It must be like an episode of The Office behind the giant glass curtain wall.
They’re ****ing weirdos.
Desperate to try and look like they’re special or important but just open themselves to ridicule at every step.
Went after their Scandinavian target before Critchley (because Aberdeen did it and it worked), couldn’t afford him so moved on to Critchley, who they then had to pretend was their first choice and because they made a big song and dance about Jamestown Analytics they had to say the data picked him out as the best candidate.
He’s sacked, now not only are they pretending that the analysis has pulled out Derek McInnes as the top target, but that he was also one of the top targets last time.
Critchley’s team were nothing like a McInnes team, I’m not sure what data points they’re searching that would lead to two very different managers being recommended. Two that play in a similar way or have similar traits makes sense, good analysis would pick out candidates best suited to either the squad they have or the one they plan to have.
That is unlikely to be the case for two very different managers/head coaches.
Why do they need to be like this?
Hibs4185
14-05-2025, 07:24 AM
They’re ****ing weirdos.
Desperate to try and look like they’re special or important but just open themselves to ridicule at every step.
Went after their Scandinavian target before Critchley (because Aberdeen did it and it worked), couldn’t afford him so moved on to Critchley, who they then had to pretend was their first choice and because they made a big song and dance about Jamestown Analytics they had to say the data picked him out as the best candidate.
He’s sacked, now not only are they pretending that the analysis has pulled out Derek McInnes as the top target, but that he was also one of the top targets last time.
Critchley’s team were nothing like a McInnes team, I’m not sure what data points they’re searching that would lead to two very different managers being recommended. Two that play in a similar way or have similar traits makes sense, good analysis would pick out candidates best suited to either the squad they have or the one they plan to have.
That is unlikely to be the case for two very different managers/head coaches.
Why do they need to be like this?
I’d love to know which filters were used by the world renowned and biggliest computer system in the world that us jealous hobos will never understand.
Bostonhibby
14-05-2025, 07:34 AM
Any normal club would probably be saying McInnes was worth a punt despite his recent poor run. Ticks a lot of boxes for a mid table Scottish team hoping to make the top 6 next season.
The flumps need to get the likes of allisbarry to maintain the illusion that they are using something super duper that somehow makes them better at this than anyone else.......
Feels like the time they were hyping how all the best managers were queuing up to join them only for them to find Jim Jeffries hiding in the fitting room at man at C&A's trying to squeeze into a maroon nylon jumper and beige cords before jumping out a giant cake as the manager they wanted to appoint all along.
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tamig
14-05-2025, 07:53 AM
Don't let the blowhards bother you in any way.
It's not that long ago they were bumping their gums about winning the Champions League. That warped into "saving their club" after it was money-laundered into the ground. Their fan ownership was a radical move that would see them to the top, Cathro was an analytic led, brave experiment that was going to see them hammer everybody. Craigyboy was the man to lead them to glory. Their tin and glass excuse for a main stand was going to be the "envy of Scottish football". Robbie Neilson was heading towards a League win as he was the best Scottish manager since Alex Ferguson. This season they were going to split the OF. Louis Armstrong and Dizzy Gillespie combined would struggle to blow their own trumpet as hard as that bunch.
Empty vessels make the most noise.
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A fine timelapse of the past twenty years or so of the failed proclamations emanating from Gorgie. Superb potted history 🙌
lucky
14-05-2025, 08:00 AM
McInnes's appointment delayed until Queen Ann returns from holiday. Forget the computer and all the rest she decides if he's getting the gig or not.
truehibernian
14-05-2025, 08:15 AM
When you look at the clubs JTA is partnered with set against the BK group I honestly can’t see where the Scottish media are getting tangled knickers and gushing. Como (10th Serie A) Castellon (14th in Spanish 2nd Division) Hearts (7th in SPFL), Union (1st in Belgium) and Brighton (9th in Premiership)
BK clubs - Lorient (1st and clear/promoted Ligue 2), Auckland (clear in 1st the A-League), Hibs (3rd SPFL), AFC Bournemouth (10th in EPL)
Usual hyperbole by lazy pundits like Stewart.
dchibs
14-05-2025, 08:19 AM
I cannot get the Little britton sketch where the woman presses the computer, and the woman says naw.
Hibernian Verse
14-05-2025, 08:21 AM
I cannot get the Little britton sketch where the woman presses the computer, and the woman says naw.
You might want JamestownAnalytics to check that scene for you, it was definitely David Walliams :greengrin
He's here!
14-05-2025, 08:27 AM
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
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McInnes ranked well among managers with Scottish experience within Hearts budget...who would ever have been able to deduce that without the analytics?
It's the way Allisbarry delivers that as though it's classified information that adds to the absurdity.
Springbank
14-05-2025, 08:31 AM
You might want JamestownAnalytics to check that scene for you, it was definitely David Walliams :greengrin
James Town Analytics said it was Derek McInnes mate
Billy Whizz
14-05-2025, 08:31 AM
Can’t see him being in charge of Killie v Hearts on Sunday. Killie fans up in arms about the thought of that, the game will turn into a farce
Saw his pre match press conference yesterday, and his words were “if and when he joins Hearts”
I’m presuming he’s not had his one to one chat with Queen Ann yet, before he makes his final decision
Baader
14-05-2025, 08:47 AM
I'm not sure I'm going to be able to handle the cringey overuse of Jamestown Analytics/JA for the foreseeable. Particularly as some sort of affirmation for blindingly obvious things that could figured out by a small monkey with a pen and paper.
Look forward them bowing before a Bulgarian data centre in the near future because it recommended they should sign a right back that is predominantly right footed. Or discovered Shankland's BMI is that of a retired darts player thats let themselves go a bit, and he could probably do with getting his fat arse in shape. https://uploads.tapatalk-cdn.com/20250513/95bdc8eeaeddf0171b6a7d171805fc7a.jpg
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It always sounds like people's perception of computers in the 1960s as exotic machines. Like some 'supercomputer' on Tomorrow's World that can calculate a random sum quicker than a human and win at chess and it's the size of a room. Data analysis in football isn't anything new.
Carheenlea
14-05-2025, 08:58 AM
You would have to imagine that for a reliable manager with good Scottish experience within their budget then Jim Goodwin would feature highly along with Robinson and McGlynn?
I actually think he’s a better manager than what he maybe gets credit for and very much in the McInnes mould. One who in the next few years might fall into the “ safe pair of hands” category.
I think Anderson has just made that up, or is is relaying what “Anne” has told him.
Since452
14-05-2025, 09:43 AM
They’re ****ing weirdos.
Desperate to try and look like they’re special or important but just open themselves to ridicule at every step.
Went after their Scandinavian target before Critchley (because Aberdeen did it and it worked), couldn’t afford him so moved on to Critchley, who they then had to pretend was their first choice and because they made a big song and dance about Jamestown Analytics they had to say the data picked him out as the best candidate.
He’s sacked, now not only are they pretending that the analysis has pulled out Derek McInnes as the top target, but that he was also one of the top targets last time.
Critchley’s team were nothing like a McInnes team, I’m not sure what data points they’re searching that would lead to two very different managers being recommended. Two that play in a similar way or have similar traits makes sense, good analysis would pick out candidates best suited to either the squad they have or the one they plan to have.
That is unlikely to be the case for two very different managers/head coaches.
Why do they need to be like this?
A bizarre craving to look big and important. Most clubs of our and Hearts size use data analytics for recruitment. You'd think Hearts were pioneers. Clubs utilise technology. It's not a new thing. Either is the cash investment for a percentage share (Bloom). We've already done it with Foley. It's incredible the lengths these goons will go to massage their own egos. Wasn't long ago they were saying the boy Beni was the best midfielder in the league and Shankland was worth 10 million. Now McInnes is the second coming of Christ despite being lower in the table than the manager they just sacked. Incredible. Fwiw I rate McInnes but they don't half big everything up to rediculous levels.
Unseen work
14-05-2025, 09:48 AM
I’m intrigued about this whole analytics as I do find it interesting
But on what metric does McCinnes come out first choice? Out of all the options in the world, it’s Derek Mcinnes who is 9th with Kilmarnock? Fair enough he finished 4th last season but before that they were 10th.
Not knocking it because he is at killie, but how would he come above Stephen Robinson who has got St Mirren top 6 for three seasons in a row? Would have pretty similar budgets
Fair enough McInness has Aberdeen where he done really well, but are the stretching it that far back?
He can’t be high on any possession etc metric either
I think he’ll do well for them, but they just seem all over the place with how they’re justifying recent managerial appointments
Hibs Go Bragh
14-05-2025, 10:15 AM
I’m intrigued about this whole analytics as I do find it interesting
But on what metric does McCinnes come out first choice? Out of all the options in the world, it’s Derek Mcinnes who is 9th with Kilmarnock? Fair enough he finished 4th last season but before that they were 10th.
Not knocking it because he is at killie, but how would he come above Stephen Robinson who has got St Mirren top 6 for three seasons in a row? Would have pretty similar budgets
Fair enough McInness has Aberdeen where he done really well, but are the stretching it that far back?
He can’t be high on any possession etc metric either
I think he’ll do well for them, but they just seem all over the place with how they’re justifying recent managerial appointments
The staunch level was set to high??
truehibernian
14-05-2025, 10:33 AM
I’m intrigued about this whole analytics as I do find it interesting
But on what metric does McCinnes come out first choice? Out of all the options in the world, it’s Derek Mcinnes who is 9th with Kilmarnock? Fair enough he finished 4th last season but before that they were 10th.
Not knocking it because he is at killie, but how would he come above Stephen Robinson who has got St Mirren top 6 for three seasons in a row? Would have pretty similar budgets
Fair enough McInness has Aberdeen where he done really well, but are the stretching it that far back?
He can’t be high on any possession etc metric either
I think he’ll do well for them, but they just seem all over the place with how they’re justifying recent managerial appointments
Using a ‘leading’ sports analytical tool to find a coach from the global football market and the best they come up with is McInnes who they are even paying compensation to get. No one does gullible and delusions of grandeur like Hearts fans and Hearts pundits.
Carheenlea
14-05-2025, 11:38 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)
So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?
Like a bowling club AGM.
JohnM1875
14-05-2025, 11:44 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)
So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?
Like a bowling club AGM.
They're so ****ing embarrassing with that stuff! Cringey as ****.
Baader
14-05-2025, 11:50 AM
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)
So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?
Like a bowling club AGM.
They do like to doth the cap, Jambos. Their grovelling, sycophantic tribute kit to the Earl of Rosebery springs to mind again. The beautiful people one but just looked like Mr Blobby. Jambos - know your place!
I wonder if they had to reset the analytics criteria after it identified David Gray as the best candidate for the job.
I wonder if they had to reset the analytics criteria after it identified David Gray as the best candidate for the job.One of the criteria set in is "must hate the hobos enough to mention it in interviews". Rules SDG oot.
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Crab apple
14-05-2025, 12:05 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)
So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?
Like a bowling club AGM.
They surely must have the creepiest support in Scotland.
Stuart93
14-05-2025, 12:10 PM
Why is allisbarry trying to push McInnes as a Jamestown appointment?
If that’s the way they’re going to use this groundbreaking system there’s **** all to worry about
NAE NOOKIE
14-05-2025, 12:10 PM
In the end analytics or not it's a pretty safe choice. He knows the league like the back of his hand and you will rarely see a McInnes team that's easy to beat ....they will also be dirty as **** and nasty with it, which lets face it fits the Hearts model exactly. I think it's a bit of a stretch to say his teams can't play decent football ... but if they do it's usually at home, because every time Aberdeen visited ER it was a game to be endured, never enjoyed, as they fouled and time wasted their way through the 90 minutes.
What has to be said about McInnes is that in 8 years with the 3rd biggest budget in the country he only managed to win one league cup, so when it comes to accumulating stuff you need to buy silver polish for I wouldn't be getting too excited if I was a Jambo :greengrin
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)
So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?
Like a bowling club AGM.
Is the rumour not that Mr Anderson will be stepping down when Mr Bloom comes on board? Meaning Mr Gallagher will be disappointed not to get his wish.
Springbank
14-05-2025, 12:14 PM
Is the rumour not that Mr Anderson will be stepping down when Mr Bloom comes on board? Meaning Mr Gallagher will be disappointed not to get his wish.
And Lady Haig is still owed money...lest they forget
Jones28
14-05-2025, 12:16 PM
https://i.postimg.cc/tC0d6dMg/IMG-6847.jpg (https://postimg.cc/RqRn5t9r)
So, can we assume from this that the new manager will be referred to as Mr McInnes?
Like a bowling club AGM.
Aw my GAWD the cringe factor is off the end of the scale here.
"Mr Anderson maintained egg and cress were the best options for the sandwiches, however Mrs Budge fervently disputed this and was insistent on the inclusion of a 25% share of ham and mustard and a further 25% of tuna mayonnaise be included."
Ribs1875
14-05-2025, 05:50 PM
Mcinnes is a safe option in a sense. They moaned about Neilsons style of football, aww they are in for a treat with wee dell.
I am baffled by the fact Robinson has been overlooked.
snedzuk
14-05-2025, 06:13 PM
Mcinnes is a safe option in a sense. They moaned about Neilsons style of football, aww they are in for a treat with wee dell.
I am baffled by the fact Robinson has been overlooked.
Maybe McInnes was cheaper.
greenlex
14-05-2025, 06:22 PM
Are they still talking.🤔
Real Emerald
14-05-2025, 06:29 PM
Mcinnes is a safe option in a sense. They moaned about Neilsons style of football, aww they are in for a treat with wee dell.
I am baffled by the fact Robinson has been overlooked.
He was overlooked because the computer said naw. If you believe that 💩 😂😂
gbhibby
14-05-2025, 11:17 PM
Boring Boring Hearts
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